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Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #208
From: Digestifier <Linux-Activists-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 93 10:13:10 EDT
Linux-Activists Digest #208, Volume #6 Tue, 7 Sep 93 10:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Mouse Info (Brett Michaels)
Bugs with .99pl12 (levinson@vax.sonoma.edu)
Re: help me ! (Brett Michaels)
Refreshing Xwindows Automatically (Thomas J Bilan)
Re: Linux says hd's out o (John Will)
Re: Only root can run X.. (John Will)
Re: Refreshing Xwindows Automatically (Frank Lofaro)
Re: Linux says hd's out o (Frank Lofaro)
Re: Serial Login. (Philip Yeoh)
Re: HARDWARE COMPATIBILITY LIST (Michael Wein)
Two Questions about Boot and Mouse (Stefano Suin)
Re: BBS package (Kristian Koehntopp)
Keyboard problem (Bkunze)
[Q] df on SLS 1.03 (Jehng-Jung Kao)
Re: [Q] df on SLS 1.03 (Fritz Ganter)
Re: Keyboard problem (Fritz Ganter)
UUCP on SLS 1.03 (Willie Lim)
Re: Refreshing Xwindows Automatically (Doctor What)
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From: brettm@access.digex.net (Brett Michaels)
Subject: Mouse Info
Date: 6 Sep 1993 23:03:54 -0400
Please point me in the right direction of there is am FAQ on this but I
have looked everywhere.
I have a Logitech Trackball Bus Mouse. This mouse emulates a Microsoft
mouse and is compatible with Mouse.Com for MSDOS.
Linux (SLS 1.03) detects the card (set on irq 2) and tells me so on startup.
I have /dev/mouse symbolicly linked to /dev/busmouselogitech.
When I run Xwindows the mouse is detected but I can't move it.
in Xconfig, I have busmouse "/dev/mouse".
The funny thing is that I had VGA card installed previously that had a bus
mouse port on board. This port worked fine. Unfortunately this VGA card
was not SVGA and not to fun for X.
Any help would be appreciated. I would like to know if there is a way to
test the mouse outside of X at least.
When i type cat /dev/mouse I am told to try again. I can't cat the mouse
movements.
Also, I would like to know how to install a serial mouse. When SLS was
installed it asked me if I had a mouse and if I had a modem. It said I
could change these things lateer with syssetup. When I ran syssetup the
program ran, and dropped back to the prompt in 2-3 seconds and did nothing.
Is there a way to get this to run?
Thanks
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Subject: Bugs with .99pl12
From: levinson@vax.sonoma.edu
Date: 6 Sep 93 20:09:21 -0800
I have just compiled and put on my system .99pl12 and noticed several problems
that you may want to know about.
1) Sometimes when I boot, I cannot use my keyboard. None of the keys do
anything including the numlock keys. I have to reboot and hope the filesystem
is not corrupted.
2)
I downloaded ext2fsprogs 0.3. When I run e2fsck on my hard disk, it checks,
then it marks it clean. If I try to run e2fsck again, it says that the
filesystem is clean and exits. I know this is normal conduct for e2fsck. The
problem is that when I reboot (using shutdown -r now) the first mount says it
is mounting an unchecked file system, which leads me to believe that shutdown
marked it dirty??? then when my e2fsck runs (which I placed in /etc/rc) it
goes thru the whole kit and kaboodle and checks the filesystem. Anyone know
why this is and how to correct it? It should only actually check the system if
it is not marked clean.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please respond via private mail if you
can.
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From: brettm@access.digex.net (Brett Michaels)
Subject: Re: help me !
Date: 7 Sep 93 03:20:30 GMT
You need to post to comp.os.linux.help. This NG is being phased out.
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From: bilan@cps.msu.edu (Thomas J Bilan)
Subject: Refreshing Xwindows Automatically
Date: 7 Sep 1993 03:43:16 GMT
I am using a Diamond Stealth 24 VLB (na na naa na na) and a CTX 17" monitor
to run X in 1024 X 768 and I'm having problems with X refreshing the screen
automatically. It's noticably bad when you try to look at the menu from
on top another window.
I think I either saw a FAQ on this or someone posted a solution in c.o.l. but
I've seen soo much paperwork in the last week while installing this that I
can't remember where it was.
Is there an easy solution or a way to map a keystroke to do an xrefresh?
Thanks,
Tom Bilan
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From: john.will@satalink.com (John Will)
Subject: Re: Linux says hd's out o
Date: 7 Sep 93 02:01:00 GMT
G >I had a similar problem a while back. My file system kept getting full and
G >I couldn't understand why. Of course, I blamed the new kernel I had just
G >installed ;-) but it turned out that because of an error *I* made in the
G >networking software my system logs were just filling up with error messages.
OTOH, there is some sort of bug in networking with the p12 kernel, I can
with regularity crash the kernel and cause it to write a core file until
ANY disk partition runs out of capacity, I've gotten 142mb core files at
times, and you can imagine that takes awhile to generate! :-( Most of
the time after it runs out of disk space, I can regain control of the
system and continue, of course the first step is to kill off the monster
core file!
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From: john.will@satalink.com (John Will)
Subject: Re: Only root can run X..
Date: 7 Sep 93 02:04:00 GMT
DR>> K >What's the recommended
DR>> K >way around this restriction? I don't really like making the server
DR>> K >run suid'd because I don't think it SHOULD run that way...
DR>>
DR>> Since that's the proper way to solve the problem, I guess you're out of
DR>> luck. :-)
DR>
DR>Maybe it's just me, but I can log in as a (gasp) "normal user" and run
DR>X just fine.
But (gasp), you already have your X server suid root! Try looking at it...
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From: ftlofaro@unlv.edu (Frank Lofaro)
Subject: Re: Refreshing Xwindows Automatically
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 93 06:51:18 GMT
In article <26h00k$s73@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> bilan@cps.msu.edu (Thomas J Bilan) writes:
>I am using a Diamond Stealth 24 VLB (na na naa na na) and a CTX 17" monitor
>to run X in 1024 X 768 and I'm having problems with X refreshing the screen
>automatically. It's noticably bad when you try to look at the menu from
>on top another window.
>
Try putting the line NoSpeedUp in Xconfig. That might fix the problems
with the screen leaving bits of windows/not refreshing right, etc. I had
problems with at ET4000 card until I disabled the speed up code. I think the
speed up code might be buggy or doesn't work with certain buggy chipsets
(not just Diamond I'm afraid, any Xfree people know about this?)....
Adding NoSpeedUp to Xconfig might not help, but it might, so give it a
try.
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From: ftlofaro@unlv.edu (Frank Lofaro)
Subject: Re: Linux says hd's out o
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 93 06:55:30 GMT
In article <1.12260.2381.0N279516@satalink.com> john.will@satalink.com (John Will) writes:
>G >I had a similar problem a while back. My file system kept getting full and
>G >I couldn't understand why. Of course, I blamed the new kernel I had just
>G >installed ;-) but it turned out that because of an error *I* made in the
>G >networking software my system logs were just filling up with error messages.
>
>OTOH, there is some sort of bug in networking with the p12 kernel, I can
>with regularity crash the kernel and cause it to write a core file until
Do you know under what conditions you can regularly crash the kernel?
Compile Linux with -g and lookup the EIP value using gdb
/usr/src/linux/tools/system, and do a list *0xeipvalue. If the system doesn't
do a crash dump, try using alt-scroll lock to get the EIP value. This could
help finding the bug(s).
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From: yeohps@cs.curtin.edu.au (Philip Yeoh)
Subject: Re: Serial Login.
Date: 7 Sep 93 07:32:16 GMT
dlg@cleese.apana.org.au (David Garrard) writes:
>Hi,
> Iam trying to set up Linux ( SLS distribution 1.02) to login from a serial
>port. Ussing the information in the FAQ to set a getty up on /dev/ttys1 I
>get the login that should be on the serial line comming up as a secound login
>on screen1. What am I doing wrong ? I would very much appreciate hearing from
>any one who could supply me details on how to do this properly.
>Best Regards
>DLG
Hi there,
I found through trial and error that I could not do a serial login from ttys1 and with ttyS1, it comes up with the login prompt and will only accept the login name before freezing the port. Lastly, I tried using cua1 and that has worked perfectly. I am using Linux SLS distribution 1.02 as well.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Regards
Phil
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From: wein@disco-elc4.dfki.uni-sb.de (Michael Wein)
Subject: Re: HARDWARE COMPATIBILITY LIST
Date: 7 Sep 1993 08:00:59 GMT
Reply-To: wein@dfki.uni-sb.de
Okay,
so the Adaptec 1542B doesn't like the PAS 16 or vice versa. But what with the
Adaptec 1542C? Has anybody discovered the same problems with this controller? As
I plan to buy a soundcard, I would be greatly interested in this point.
mhw
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From: stefano@di.unipi.it (Stefano Suin)
Subject: Two Questions about Boot and Mouse
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 09:03:16 GMT
First:
I have installed SLS 1.03 on my PC.
After kernel rebuilding, I used Quickinstall to boot linux from hard disk,
but it seems to hang on boot. (It says LI... and dies)
Second:
I am not able to use properly all tree buttons of Microsoft serial Mouse.
It works fine only in tree buttons emulation mode.
Any ideas?
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From: kris@black.toppoint.de (Kristian Koehntopp)
Subject: Re: BBS package
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 06:23:30 GMT
In <26ggf0$c8a@nwfocus.wa.com> ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) writes:
>>How about waffle? See comp.bbs.waffle for details.
>A user in waffle would become userid 'bbs' in the shell, unless
>a 'wrapper' (setname, in this case) were used.
IMHO this is the main structural bug in most "BBS"-setups for
UNIX. There you have an operating system that went through
great pains to stick an owner-ID to each system object (files,
processes, devices and so on) and the first thing a UNIX-BBS
does is to put all its users under a single UID. The second
thing the BBS does is to duplicate the effort the OS made to
seperate the BBS users and their data again - apparently a
major braindamage.
IMHO a BBS setup for UNIX should consist mainly of two parts.
The first is the BBS program in form of a users shell with
integrated news and mail users agent. Such a program should
utilize native UNIX news and mail transport agents and not try
to implement a propietary data format.
The second part would be an administrators shell for easy
creation and removal of users.
Kristian
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"Es gibt Leute, die glauben, dass X.400 die Zukunft gehoert. Und es gibt
Leute, die hoffen, dass es so bleibt." -- Kristian Koehntopp
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From: bkunze@novell.de (Bkunze)
Subject: Keyboard problem
Date: 7 Sep 1993 09:57:28 GMT
Dear all Linuxers,
after a short period to go with OS/2 Linux is back on my hard disk again (shame on me
for getting into OS/2).
Well, with the new build I encounter problems with setkbd. The alt keys get my kernel to
panik. Any help available?
Thanks,
Bernd Kunze
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From: jjkao@ev001 (Jehng-Jung Kao)
Subject: [Q] df on SLS 1.03
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 05:55:58 GMT
I just installed SLS 1.03, but when I executed 'df', I can not see
any file system shown up. Please help.
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Associate Professor (IP:140.113.223.1)
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From: ganter@fvkmapc02.tu-graz.ac.at (Fritz Ganter)
Subject: Re: [Q] df on SLS 1.03
Date: 7 Sep 1993 11:27:27 GMT
Jehng-Jung Kao (jjkao@ev001) wrote:
: I just installed SLS 1.03, but when I executed 'df', I can not see
: any file system shown up. Please help.
look in fstab, there is a wrong entry for your root filesystem like
/root
change it to /
Fritz
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From: ganter@fvkmapc02.tu-graz.ac.at (Fritz Ganter)
Subject: Re: Keyboard problem
Date: 7 Sep 1993 11:28:44 GMT
Bkunze (bkunze@novell.de) wrote:
: Dear all Linuxers,
: after a short period to go with OS/2 Linux is back on my hard disk again (shame on me
: for getting into OS/2).
: Well, with the new build I encounter problems with setkbd. The alt keys get my kernel to
: panik. Any help available?
: Thanks,
: Bernd Kunze
use loadkeys instead
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Email: ganter@fvkmapc02.tu-graz.ac.at, ganter@fvkmads02.tu-graz.ac.at
HAM-Radio: OE6FAD@OE6XYG.AUT.EU, OE6FAD@OE6FAD.AMPR.ORG
Phone: +43 316 873-7222 (Office), +43 316 663243 (home)
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From: wlim@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM (Willie Lim)
Subject: UUCP on SLS 1.03
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 13:03:21 GMT
[I think this is a Linux rather than a UUCP question. :-)]
I have been "playing" the UUCP capability of LInux SLS 1.03 for the
past few days (and nights. :-)) I used /dev/modem which is softlinked
to /dev/cua1 (COM 2) with uugetty -r set for /dev/modem in
/etc/inittab. Also I used Any in the relevent entries in the
/usr/lib/uucp/Systems file (just to test things out).
Here are several observations:
1) When SLS 1.03 is first installed, the system talks to the modem
(but no dialing out) frequently and then after a while (like an hour
or more), it leaves the modem alone.
2) Having done the necessary modifications to Devices, Dialers, and
Systems in the /usr/lib/uucp directory and the paths and config
files in the smail directory (don't remember the exact path
anymore), I could test my UUCP link using the command:
/usr/lib/uucico [-f] -x2 -s<hostname>
Without the -x2 (or higher e.g. x3, x4) flag, Linux would not
initiate a call otherwise uucico dials out with and without the -f
or the -r flags set.
3) I use crontab to schedule dialouts with the -f and -x2 flag on (I
want to make sure that the system dials out). Everything works
fine for a day or so and then
/usr/lib/uucico -f -r1 -x2 -s<hostname>
would do nothing except create the LCK..* and TMP...... files
in /usr/spool/uucp. The audit.local and other logs in the
/usr/spool/uucp don't seem to get updated when this happens (i.e.,
when uucico doesn't initiate a dialout). Usually the logs will say
something or explain why the dialout didn't occur and a couple of
modem lights will flicker for a few seconds but in this case nothing.
Questions:
a) How tightly "hardcoded" is the uucp neighbor "quick" to SLS 1.03?
b) How fast does the C.* and D.* files get created in the
/usr/spool/uucp/hostname directory? I notice that sometimes those
files (email addressed to hostname) get created as soon as I "send"
them out of the mail program (Emacs rmail mode) but then there are times
I notice that the files don't get created that quickly.
c) I haven't left my system alone long enough (e.g. for > 24 hours)
to see if the UUCP link will "wake" up again. Is the uucico's behavior
described in 3 above expected?
Willie
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From: choeltje@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Doctor What)
Subject: Re: Refreshing Xwindows Automatically
Date: 7 Sep 1993 14:10:56 GMT
ftlofaro@unlv.edu (Frank Lofaro) writes:
>In article <26h00k$s73@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> bilan@cps.msu.edu (Thomas J Bilan) writes:
>>I am using a Diamond Stealth 24 VLB (na na naa na na) and a CTX 17" monitor
>>to run X in 1024 X 768 and I'm having problems with X refreshing the screen
>>automatically. It's noticably bad when you try to look at the menu from
>>on top another window.
>>
> Try putting the line NoSpeedUp in Xconfig. That might fix the problems
>with the screen leaving bits of windows/not refreshing right, etc. I had
>problems with at ET4000 card until I disabled the speed up code. I think the
>speed up code might be buggy or doesn't work with certain buggy chipsets
>(not just Diamond I'm afraid, any Xfree people know about this?)....
> Adding NoSpeedUp to Xconfig might not help, but it might, so give it a
>try.
I had a similar problem...and I was told to remove the speedup code (via the
NoSpeedUp in Xconfig.) However, it had NO effect (I'm using an S3 video board,
tho). I also got another suggestion. "Try a different Windows-Manager" That
worked very well. I'm using fvwm, and it works pretty well, thank you.
-Doc
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