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Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #216
From: Digestifier <Linux-Activists-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 93 00:13:07 EDT
Linux-Activists Digest #216, Volume #6 Fri, 10 Sep 93 00:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux 'port to 16-bit machines?? (Derek Bischoff)
Re: Microsoft bus mouse problems in X - SLS 1.01 (0.99p9) (Derek Bischoff)
password incorrect (Wu Hua)
Adaptec 1522 support? (Tom Griffing)
Modula-2 compiler for linux... wanted. (Todd Holbrook)
SuperUser <s> (Eric Jacobsen)
Linux comm programs (Eric Jacobsen)
Linux sound support (Eric Jacobsen)
Re: Remapping backspace as del in X11 (Charles T Wilson -- Personal Account)
Re: Adaptec 1522 support? (Drew Eckhardt)
Re: 2 IDE Drives ? (Charles T Wilson -- Personal Account)
1-2-3 running in dosemu? (Francis Moreas)
Re: Xircom pocket adapter (Corey Minyard)
Re: Can you port Linux to my Refrigerator? (Simon J Ferrett)
Re: Remapping backspace as del in X11 (Bradford L. Barrett)
Re: Shutdown doesnt unmount (Gilbert Callaghan)
Re: Can you port Linux to my Refrigerator? (Thomas J Bilan)
Re: Xircom pocket adapter (Donald J. Becker)
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From: Derek.Bischoff%f1.n3641.z1@psybbs.durham.nc.us (Derek Bischoff)
Subject: Re: Linux 'port to 16-bit machines??
Date: 9 Sep 93 21:49:01 GMT
-=> Quoting ph9991_hall to All <=-
p> I have two 16-bit machines I use as footstools and doorprops in my
p> computer room, and I was wondering if I will ever be able to do
p> anything more constructive with them. Would it be possible to 'port
p> the Linux OS over to the lower PC's such as 8088's and '286's? I know
p> that a GOOD multitasking OS requires a '386 or better, but could a
p> NON-multitasking Linux be made available?
Hey buddy. You do have options, however, they are not Linux.
I am afraid that Linux relies on the architecture of the 386 or better
to opperate, and you will need to do some serious code writing
(equal to writing an os) to over-rule it. HOWEVER, you asked
if there was a NON-multitasking LInux. Well, if you are looking
for Non multitasking, you could always use one of many
Unix shells for dos. This would yield the greatest speed, and provide
unix tools, programming, and UUCP.
As an alternet (sp) you could use (I believe) Xenix, atleast
for the 286, and (I think) Minix is available for 8088/286, and
I have heard that there was a small version of BSD for the same.
this is all over hearing, since I haven't used any of these OS's
(except Xenix, which works great on a 386/16 laptop)
Good luck on your quest,
Me?, I just put 2 more XT's that have become available in this
department, I just hung them on one of the hosts I have here,
the more terminals, the merrier.
... Sincerely, Derek
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From: Derek.Bischoff%f1.n3641.z1@psybbs.durham.nc.us (Derek Bischoff)
Subject: Re: Microsoft bus mouse problems in X - SLS 1.01 (0.99p9)
Date: 9 Sep 93 22:05:02 GMT
-=> Quoting Kurt Hildebrant to All <=-
KH> From: Kurt.Hildebrant%bbs@dmapub.dma.org (Kurt Hildebrant)
KH> Organization: Dayton Microcomputer Association; Dayton OH
KH> I am experiencing problems getting X up on my 486/50.
KH> Using SLS 1.01 (Linux 0.99p9), 8 meg RAM, 212 meg HD, Trident 1 meg
KH> video card, Microsoft bus mouse. The mouse works fine in DOS.
KH> /dev/mouse points to the correct bus mouse driver and Xconfig is set
KH> up for the bus mouse, but X pukes and says that it can't open the
KH> mouse.
KH> Is there a problem using Microsoft bus mouse ? Should I switch to a
KH> COMx mouse ? Thanks for any help.
I had simmilar problems with mine. First, go to /usr/X386/tst/mouse
and or /usr/X386/lib/X11/tst/mouse
these both came with SLS 1.0
either one of these programs can be used to test the mouse.
also, read /usr/X386/lib/X11/INSTALL.base
this has many good hints about configuring your mouse.
HINT: remove your /dev/mouse file, and create it as described
in INSTALL.base with mknod.
... Sincerely, Derek
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From: wuhua@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Wu Hua)
Subject: password incorrect
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 00:50:36 GMT
I recently installed SLS 1.03 on a 486DX50. I have the following
problem:
After I added an user with useradd, I did passwd USERNAME to assign an
password, passwd reported the passwd has been changed. However, when I
try to login with that user name, it says password incorrect. I then
edited /etc/passwd and removed the password field *, this make login
bypass password checking. So the result is I cann't have any security
on my linux.
When I change password for root, it never takes effect on login, my
root login dos not ask for an password. However, when I su root, the
password prompt shows up, and accept the correct one I set.
Could someone help me, thanks lot in advance.
Hua Wu
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From: tom@feenix.metronet.com (Tom Griffing)
Subject: Adaptec 1522 support?
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 00:35:38 GMT
Hey, Linuxers! (Ain't it great!)
I've been trying to install Linux on a Taiwanese motherboard with
SCSI local bus ... a GA-400 motherboard that claims Adaptec 1522
H/W and S/W compatibility. Upon booting, Linux says that it doesn't
recognize any SCSI hosts or disks, and it won't install.
Is this because Linux doesn't support the 1522, or because of the
motherboard?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thomas Griffing
--
|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
| Thomas L. Griffing | Consultant, Dallas Softworks, Inc. |
| tom@feenix.metronet.com | (214) 352-1011 |
|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
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From: tholbroo@malibu.sfu.ca (Todd Holbrook)
Subject: Modula-2 compiler for linux... wanted.
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 01:21:07 GMT
After poking around in sunsite and tsx-11, I've been unable to find a
Modula-2 compiler for linux. If anyone knows where one is available,
please let me know.
Todd...
tholbroo@fraser.sfu.ca
------------------------------
From: jacobsen@csc.mc.edu (Eric Jacobsen)
Subject: SuperUser <s>
Date: 9 Sep 1993 21:03:33 -0500
I am a new Linux user, and I made a mistake which caused my "root"
user to never be able to log back in. I finally reinstalled the operating
system. Is there a way to create multiple SuperUsers?
Eric Jacobsen
jacobsen@csc.mc.edu
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From: jacobsen@csc.mc.edu (Eric Jacobsen)
Subject: Linux comm programs
Date: 9 Sep 1993 21:07:44 -0500
Are there any terminal emulator programs for Linux, such as QModem
for DOS or TE/2 for OS/2?
I've looked at Kermit, but I'm not sure what its purpose is. Could
someone help there, also?
Finally, if anyone knows anything about Dial-in access to a Linux
system, please let me know. I would like to set up my system so that people
can dial up my system and log in to Linux.
Any help will be appreciated! Thanks!
Eric Jacobsen
jacobsen@csc.mc.edu
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From: jacobsen@csc.mc.edu (Eric Jacobsen)
Subject: Linux sound support
Date: 9 Sep 1993 21:09:32 -0500
Hello, again!
Are there any sound programs out there which support the Sound Blaster?
I would like to play CMF's and VOC's from Linux.
Thanks!
Eric Jacobsen
jacobsen@csc.mc.edu
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From: ctwilson@rock.concert.net (Charles T Wilson -- Personal Account)
Subject: Re: Remapping backspace as del in X11
Date: 10 Sep 1993 02:22:55 GMT
In article <26lj9p$vj2@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> bilan@cps.msu.edu (Thomas J Bilan) writes:
>Does anyone know how I can remap the backspace key as
>the delete key in an xterm window?
>
>My TERMCAP variable is = vs but I don't know what entries I have to
>change in /etc/termcap to get it to work.
Not really sure (not a termcap expert ), but a workaround for now is
issuing the command:
stty erase [hit the backspace or a del key here if interactive]
or
stty erase '?'
in a file that you execute.
I had the same problem in XFree86 1.2. It's the kind of thing that
prompts one to buy a book on termcaps which I haven't needed to use
yet because XFree 1.3 fixed that (uses del instead of control-h).
The only reference I can find in that book for 'vs' (for visual start)
says it's for cursor intensity; when visual mode (vi) was added to ex
(the real name of this editor), this mode has added to termcaps:
"makes the cursor very visible", such as a flashing block instead of
an underline. The def to look for is 'bs' which represents ^H. To
use something else, bc= capability must be used. I'm not really sure
what to make of the rest...sorry. This is one of the first good looks
I've had at this book. It's one of the Nutshell series and looks pretty
good.
--
/-----------------------------------------------------------------------\
| Tom Wilson | "I can't complain, but sometimes |
| ctwilson@rock.concert.net | I still do." |
| | -Joe Walsh |
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From: drew@ladymacb.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: Adaptec 1522 support?
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 02:20:37 GMT
In article <CD44BF.Lzx@feenix.metronet.com> tom@feenix.metronet.com (Tom Griffing) writes:
>
>Hey, Linuxers! (Ain't it great!)
>
>I've been trying to install Linux on a Taiwanese motherboard with
>SCSI local bus ... a GA-400 motherboard that claims Adaptec 1522
>H/W and S/W compatibility. Upon booting, Linux says that it doesn't
>recognize any SCSI hosts or disks, and it won't install.
>
>Is this because Linux doesn't support the 1522
The Linux distribution kernels do not support the Adaptec 1522. However,
Juergen Fischer has written a driver, and it is in public ALPHA test.
FTP tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/ALPHA/scsi/aha1522/*
Apply the patches and build a new kernel.
--
Boycott USL/Novell for their absurd anti-BSDI lawsuit. | Drew Eckhardt,
Condemn Colorado for Amendment Two. | Proffesional Linux
Use Linux, the fast, flexible, and free 386 unix | Consultant
Will administer Unix for food | drew@cs.Colorado.EDU
------------------------------
From: ctwilson@rock.concert.net (Charles T Wilson -- Personal Account)
Subject: Re: 2 IDE Drives ?
Date: 10 Sep 1993 02:33:05 GMT
In article <1993Sep8.224948.292@news.dfrf.nasa.gov> davisrj@arts.dfrf.nasa.gov (Roy Davis) writes:
>
>Hi all,
>
>I'm just about ready to toss linux on my 386 (waiting for that new hard
>drive to get here). Looked at this group for the fist time today and saw
>something about 5-600 articles old about a problem with linux and 2 IDE
>hard drives. I was hoping to just add the new drive in as the second
>without changing the first so could somebody tell me exactly what the problem
>was. I think it had to do with using LILO to boot from the different
>partitions (something I hope to do).
I used two IDE's quite nicely until my recent upgrade to a scsi drive
on an isa bus motherboard with an onboard host. There might be some
kind of problem some VLB hosts, but I doubt it otherwise. It's probably
not a bad idea to have two drives of similar geometry, but I don't think
it's necessary.
--
/-----------------------------------------------------------------------\
| Tom Wilson | "I can't complain, but sometimes |
| ctwilson@rock.concert.net | I still do." |
| | -Joe Walsh |
------------------------------
From: francis@bifrost.llnl.gov (Francis Moreas)
Subject: 1-2-3 running in dosemu?
Date: 9 Sep 1993 19:44:29 -0700
Has anyone got 1-2-3 running under dosemu v. 0.48? If so, how? Thanks.
Francis
francis@bifrost.llnl.gov
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From: minyard@crchh7b9.rich.bnr.ca (Corey Minyard)
Subject: Re: Xircom pocket adapter
Date: 10 Sep 1993 02:43:01 GMT
: >
: >Problem is that Xircom doesn't document their hardware, and prohibits
: ^^^^^^^^^
: >reverse engineering. Sell your Xircom to a DOS luser and buy a D-Link.
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: >-russ <nelson@crynwr.com> What canst *thou* say?
: >Crynwr Software Crynwr Software sells packet driver support.
: >11 Grant St. 315-268-1925 Voice | LPF member - ask me about
: >Potsdam, NY 13676 315-268-9201 FAX | the harm software patents do.
: Is that legal? I thought the law always allowed reverse engineering
: as long as code isn't stolen/ I even think there was a lawsuit whose result
: proved that (could be wrong here though). Or is this another area where the
: ever so wonderful U.S legal system (barf) allows one to get sued even
: though what they are doing is perfectly legal?
The current issue of Communication of the ACM has an article about this.
It was kind of an eye-opener to me about copyrights in general.
From what I can gather, it is perfectly legal to reverse engineer as long
as you don't use any code from what you got. And the sueing bit is kind
of a mute point for us. What are they going to sue us for? Well, I guess
lawyers cost money, but Xircom wouldn't gain anything by that. The code
would already be released.
Having said that, I don't think we should support loser companies that don't
release hardware specs. In the long run they are not benefitting themselves
anyway. I'm all for "helping" them go out of business buy not buying their
stuff and encouraging others to not buy it. I think it should be a Linux
principle not to port stuff to companies that do not release their specs.
Corey
minyard@wf-rch.cirr.com
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From: c9108932@peach.newcastle.edu.au (Simon J Ferrett)
Subject: Re: Can you port Linux to my Refrigerator?
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 01:48:48 GMT
quinlan@rose.cs.bucknell.edu (Daniel Quinlan) writes:
>uberig@gfx.engga.uwo.ca (Jason Uberig) writes:
>> would be nice to see a port of Linux for the Atari ST/Falcon/etc. Is/has
>> anyone done this yet? I've heard a few rumors, but nothing substantial
>You know, I think that Linux should be ported to my refrigerator. I
>mean, it already has many built in features similar to Unix and I
>think that these facts should make a port simple.
[ rather funny analogy removed for brevity ]
>This "port Linux to everything thing phenomenon" is rather silly. Why
>on Earth would you want to port it to anything nobody uses anymore? I
well I think that instead of people porting something that was written
from ground up on a 386 to some(possibly completely different) architecture
(like a refrigerator) they should instead see the impact linux
has made on the PC community, see how it works and *write a different*
operating system for that machine, built from the ground up so that it
works 100% on that machine - theres no need to have "linux" as such
running on macs and amigas etc etc, they are looking for a program
which does the same job.
just my 0.02...
--
c9108932@cs.newcastle.edu.au - Simon Ferrett
Due to technical difficuties, we are unable to bring you your
regularly scheduled .signature - normal transmission will resume
as soon as possible...
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From: if438819@solix.fiu.edu (Bradford L. Barrett)
Subject: Re: Remapping backspace as del in X11
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 03:20:40 GMT
: In article <26lj9p$vj2@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> bilan@cps.msu.edu (Thomas J Bilan) writes:
: >Does anyone know how I can remap the backspace key as
: >the delete key in an xterm window?
: >
: >My TERMCAP variable is = vs but I don't know what entries I have to
: >change in /etc/termcap to get it to work.
Don't know about the TERMCAP entry (not an expert!) but you can remap
using the command:
xmodmap -e "keysym BackSpace = Delete"
Brad
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From: gilbert@inviso.com (Gilbert Callaghan)
Subject: Re: Shutdown doesnt unmount
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 01:29:47 GMT
In article <1993Sep8.094234.1@vax.sonoma.edu> levinson@vax.sonoma.edu writes:
>
>Well, I got SLS 1.01, and I have since gone from .99pl9-6 all the way to
>.99pl12 without obtaining all of the support files. Like I said, if I use
>shutdown now and go single user and type umount -a, it works. If I just use
>shutdown -r now it doesnt unmount root.
Shutdown runs the script '/etc/brc' which actually does the job of umounting:
/etc/brc:
#!/bin/sh
echo "Unmounting Filesystems"
umount -a
and make sure it's owned by root with perms 700.
--
Gilbert Callaghan
gilbert@inviso.com
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From: bilan@indian.uucp (Thomas J Bilan)
Subject: Re: Can you port Linux to my Refrigerator?
Date: 10 Sep 1993 03:30:35 GMT
In article <1993Sep9.105814.6130@swan.pyr> iiitac@swan.pyr (Alan Cox) writes:
>In article <1993Sep8.161642.21708@amoco.com> zjoc01@hou.amoco.com writes:
>>It may not be Linux, but even the vernible COCO from Radio $hark has run
>>OS9 (a Unix clone) for years...
>OS9 is _not_ a Unix clone. OS9 is a small very neat modular real time OS.
>It just happens to be a nice multi-user environment on tiny computers too.
>
>We must also not forget UZI on CP/M systems.
>
>Alan
>iiitac@pyr.swan.ac.uk
I'm personally waiting for the Timex Sinclair and HP48sx versions!
Tom Bilan
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From: becker@super.org (Donald J. Becker)
Subject: Re: Xircom pocket adapter
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1993 17:24:57 GMT
In article <CD2n3L.1Aq@unix.portal.com>,
Karl Paul Mueller <karl@shell.portal.com> wrote:
>bilan@cps.msu.edu (Thomas J Bilan) writes:
>
>>I am running .99p12 kernel and I see that it's looking for a
>>d-link pocked adapter on the parallel port. I have a Xircom
>>parallel port eth. adapter that I would like (love) to use.
>
>>Does anyone know of a patch to get this little creature
>>running?
> We've just gotten Xircoms at our dorm (like 2 days ago) at
>UIUC. Unfortunatly, even after the ifconfig shows it all right the
>routering configuration just won't work. [...]
>Is it just that Xircom adaptors are too lame to work? We've had
>routing problems with pl12 with other cards too..
It's been repeated many times: Xircom will not release programming
information, and thus there won't be a Linux driver for any Xircom
product. But you should call them and ask for a Linux driver anyway.
Point out that it didn't say "for use with DOS only" in the
advertisement.
The same holds true for the Cabletron E21xx series, although
Cabletron may write a E21xx driver themselves. Or Cabletron may just be
saying that so that they don't lose current sales -- that's an old
trick in the proprietary game.
--
Donald Becker becker@super.org
IDA Supercomputing Research Center
17100 Science Drive, Bowie MD 20715 301-805-7482
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