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From: Digestifier <Linux-Admin-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 17:13:38 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #195
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Linux-Admin Digest #195, Volume #2 Fri, 14 Oct 94 17:13:38 EDT
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Contents:
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Boot disk (Eric Fox)
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Re: Linux box as Router ?? (Alan Cox)
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Re: Messed up my root password! (Jim Frendewey)
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Re: HOWTO for XMosaic setup? (Joerg Fries)
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dosemu0.52 & linux1.1.52 problem (Dino Butorac (III rac))
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Re: Why aren't runlevels used more? (Michael Haardt)
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Re: Messed up my root password! (Anton de Wet)
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Re: New Motif lib's for use with XFree 3.1 ? (Patrick J. Volkerding)
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Re: Mystery Chip...AMD (Joseph Stanley (Joe Wisniewski))
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Re: Good Video Card For Linux (Joseph P DeCello III)
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finger/who/w problems in slackware 2.0.1? (Jeremy Todd)
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Re: help with FTape (Shaune Beattie)
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Re: New Motif lib's for use with XFree 3.1 ? (Peter Mutsaers)
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Re: XFree86-3.1 - Whoopee! (Peter Mutsaers)
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Re: formatting tapes (Shaune Beattie)
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2nd RFD: comp.os.linux reorganization (Dave Sill)
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Re: PC m/boards + ncr PCI (some tips + info) (Markus Kuhn)
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Where? (Simon Nash)
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Re: Linux Mosaic using Athena (Gerry Snyder)
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Re: Mystery Chip...AMD (H. Peter Anvin)
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Re: dosemu0.52 & linux1.1.52 problem (Robert G. Smith)
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From: foxes@CSOS.ORST.EDU (Eric Fox)
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Subject: Boot disk
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Date: 10 Oct 1994 19:46:15 -0700
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I need to create a boot disk similar to bare.gz, but a more
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recent version (in order to recognize my hard drive). A Linux 1.1.49
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boot disk recognizes the drive (1.0.9 does not) but panics when it
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doesn't find Linux on the drive.
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Make zlilo, zdisk, etc all create a boot floppy, but can't
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mount root or request a root disk.
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How do I create recent version boot and root disks to install
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Linux?
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Thanks.
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------------------------------
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: Linux box as Router ??
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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 13:10:29 GMT
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In article <tony.115.0016B2C6@teleport.com> tony@teleport.com (Tony Schwartz) writes:
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>I would love to hear from someone who has used a Linux system as their router.
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> My company is considering doing it for flexibility, cost, etc. Is it a good
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>idea???
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PC-Route on an old 286 is more cost effective. For Linux you can build a
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router from a 386SX16 two cards and a 1.44 Mb floppy -if its a dedicated
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router. Or any other Linux host that you don't mind the performance hit
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on.
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ALan
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--
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..-----------,,----------------------------,,----------------------------,,
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// Alan Cox // iialan@www.linux.org.uk // GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU //
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``----------'`----------------------------'`----------------------------''
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From: jimf@myhost.subdomain.domain (Jim Frendewey)
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Subject: Re: Messed up my root password!
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Date: 10 Oct 1994 19:37:08 GMT
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Reply-To: jimf@mtu.edu
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My first ever post did not have any useful address info I see. I don't know if
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this will add a good return address, etc. If not, and it is really needed, my
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e-mail address is jimf@mtu.edu.
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Thanks!
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From: fries@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Joerg Fries)
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Subject: Re: HOWTO for XMosaic setup?
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Date: 14 Oct 1994 12:20:05 GMT
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Chris Funk (chris@ILS-5.lawlib.UH.edu) wrote:
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> I am trying to setup XMosaic on a Linux box but I seem to be missing a
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> directory called Xm. Is there a HOWTO? a FAQ? What libraries do I need?
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> Where can I get them?
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> Thanks in advance,
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> Chris.
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> --
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Chris Funk chris@www.lawlib.uh.edu
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> Law Library Automation Dept. ST1Z2@Jetson.UH.edu
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> University of Houston
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> Houston, Texas USA
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> (713) 743-2318
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Hi Chris,
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the missing 'Xm' directory is the OSF/Motif include directory. Then
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there are two possibilities:
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1. You *have* Motif and your include dirs are wrong,
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2. You *don't have* Motif, so you can't compile XMosaic because it's a
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Motif Application... :-(
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Hope that helps,
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Joerg
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(NOTE: please answer via email..)
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--
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==============================================================================
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Joerg Fries
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Department of Computer Science
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Technical University of Darmstadt, Germany
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email: fries@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de
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==============================================================================
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------------------------------
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From: dinob@zems.etf.hr (Dino Butorac (III rac))
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Subject: dosemu0.52 & linux1.1.52 problem
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Date: 12 Oct 1994 12:08:54 GMT
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I am running linux 1.1.52 and I compiled dosemu0.52. I tried to do things
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just like it is written in the Quickstart file, but when I type dos -A, I
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get a 'segmentation fault' and the machine hangs... To be worse, my floppy
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is scrambled beyond recognition after that :((. After I destroyed 2 floppies
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I had no other options but to stop experimenting.
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Help?
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--
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Dino Butorac
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dinob@zems.etf.hr
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------------------------------
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From: Michael Haardt <(michael)u31b3hs@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de>
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Subject: Re: Why aren't runlevels used more?
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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 94 19:51:48 MET
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ig25@fg70.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Thomas Koenig) writes:
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> Runlevels seem to be somewhat underused in current Linux distributions.
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Well, don't use distributions :)
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> This would take a couple of lines like
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>
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> pm:5:once:/usr/sbin/rpc.portmap
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> in:5:once:/usr/sbin/inetd
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> nf:5:once:/usr/sbin/rpc.nfsd
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>
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> in /etc/inittab, and (possibly) a little hacking of source code, if
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> services like nfsd should restart when they've aborted. The superuser
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> then could terminate networking cleanly with /sbin/telinit 4.
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You should have a look at SYSV like rc files. They allow for much more
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flexibility in system configuration and solve the above problem very
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nice. Programs which put themselves in background will not work with
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init, but hiding details of how to start and stop a service in shell
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scripts like done e.g. in Solaris makes administration very easy.
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Michael
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--
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Twiggs and root are a wonderful tree (tm) Twiggs & root 1992 :-)
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d? H- s(+)/(-) g! au a- w v(---) C++(+++) UUL++++S++++?++++ L++ 3 E-
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N+++ tv b+ e+ h f+ m@ r++ n@ y+
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From: adw@Chopin.rau.ac.za (Anton de Wet)
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Subject: Re: Messed up my root password!
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Date: 13 Oct 1994 11:34:36 GMT
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Jim Frendewey (jimf@myhost.subdomain.domain) wrote:
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: I changed my root password, being security conscious, but apparently changed it
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: to something I can't repeat. I have tried all the combinations of what I
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: thought I used but to no avail.
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: The way I have tried to get out of this mess is by bring up my system in
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: single user mode, which works, and then changing the password. The problem is
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: the system indicates that it has mounted my files as rw but everything behaves
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: as if has been mounted read-only. If I cat mtab it shows (rw). I am new to
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: Unix and especially to 'Unix administration'. Any help would be greatly
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: appreciated.
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Try
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mount -n -o remount,rw /dev/hda1 /
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(Assuming your root partition is /dev/hda1)
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This should remount your drive writeble (the -n is to stop mount from trying to
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write to /etc/mtab which is still read only at this stage)
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Alternatively, boot with your boot disks, quit out of the installation and
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manually mount your hard drive on /mnt
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Anton
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------------------------------
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From: gonzo@magnet.mednet.net (Patrick J. Volkerding)
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Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.windows.x.motif
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Subject: Re: New Motif lib's for use with XFree 3.1 ?
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Date: 14 Oct 1994 18:56:24 GMT
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In article <37m1q7$1e8@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>,
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Frank Hofmann <cip574@wpax01.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de> wrote:
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>Hey guys: don't just flame Metrolink - I'm more angry about the Slackware
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>distribution originator. Why the hell does he have to create such a chaos
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>like /usr/X11, /var/X11 -> ../../X11, /usr/X386 -> X11, and so on ?
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>This difference /usr <-> /var and the gigantic amount of softlinks between
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>these dirs cost me half a day to clean up...
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Well, you're free to not use Slackware.
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To a certain extent, I agree that the symlinks are confusing. However,
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these changes _have_ to be made in order to conform to the Linux FSSTND
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(file system standard). According to that, configuration files for X
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should _not_ be under /usr, since it prevents sharing /usr read-only
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among many machines. Also, if /usr happens to be a CD-ROM it's going to
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be a little difficult to add something to your app-defaults with the
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standard directory layout, isn't it? How about changing what
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/usr/X11R6/bin/X points to?
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The bottom line is that the standard layout isn't good in all cases. I
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know at least one of the XFree86 team has called my layout "crap", so I
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guess it goes to show you can't please everybody.
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If you have a better solution (other than ignoring the file system
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standard), I'm all ears.
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Pat
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------------------------------
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From: wiz@rcsg30.eld.ford.com (Joseph Stanley (Joe) Wisniewski)
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.os.linux.misc
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Subject: Re: Mystery Chip...AMD
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Date: 14 Oct 1994 12:47:45 GMT
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In article <37ln5h$acb@gate.fzi.de>, berthold@fzi.de (Michael Berthold) writes:
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|> In article <37jlcoINNj2u@retriever.cs.umbc.edu>, urban@cs.umbc.edu (Gregory Urban) writes:
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|> |> In article <37jjnd$9m6@panix2.panix.com>,
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|> |> Marten Liebster <mmarten@panix.com> wrote:
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|> |> >So when is AMD comming out with a 486dx4-120? :-)
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|> |> >Marten
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|> |> NO, NO, NO !!!!!!!!!!
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|> |>
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|> |> Only Intel uses STUPID names for their chips. AMD will produce a DX3/120
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|> |> (clock tripled, 40mhz external, 120mhz internal).
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|> |>
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|> |> Greg Urban | "I can stand brute force, but brute reason is quite
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|>
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|> You should know the facts before posting "stupid" flames. The "4" has
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|> nothing to do with the clock-tripling but with the performace compared
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|> to a normal 486.
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|> And you should have said: AMD will "copy" another chip from Intel. :-)
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|> just my $0.02, Michael
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AMD had a massive technology trade agreement with Intel that let AMD "copy"
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many chips from Intel, including the x86 series processors, just as Intel
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could copy many chips from AMD, including bit-slice processors, memory chips,
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and programable logic devices. Intel broke this agreement, and it took AMD
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years of court battles to make Intel fulfill their contract.
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My personal opinion is that Intel began to get worried about AMD competition
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when AMD took Intel's 6MHz 80286 processor design, and started turning out
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low cost 10, 12, and 16MHz parts back when Intel was having trouble getting
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the chip to run reliably at 8Mhz. AMD then carried 80386 on to 40MHz when
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Intel hit the wall at 33MHz. If Intel had continued to honor their
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contractural obligations to AMD, I bet we would be seeing 150MHz 486 and
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Pentium parts from AMD by now, as well as faster parts from Intel (the
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competition might keep them on their toes).
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--
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Joseph S. Wisniewski | The views expressed are purely my own, and do not
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Ford Motor Company | reflect those of the Ford Motor Company, or any of
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Project Sapphire | its affiliates.
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wiz@rcsg30.eld.ford.com | "any color you want -- as long as it's black"
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------------------------------
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From: decello@beal.uucp (Joseph P DeCello III)
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Subject: Re: Good Video Card For Linux
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Date: 12 Oct 1994 12:29:38 GMT
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In article <LONGSA%DFCS.69@dfmail.usafa.af.mil>,
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Sean A. Long <LONGSA%DFCS@dfmail.usafa.af.mil> wrote:
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>In article <37afta$pmg@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> ronb@mail.utexas.edu (Ron Blancarte) writes:
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>
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>>My Brother-in-Law is getting a PC to run Linux on one partition, and
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>>Windows/Dos on the other one. Now anyone can make Win/Dos Drivers, but we are
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>>looking for a Video card that has really good Linux drivers. Things to take
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>>note when giving advice: We are not looking for a 64 bit Video card, so
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>>please don't recomend them, unless they are the best card hands down.
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>
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>>Please e-mail responces back to me. I don't frequent this group.
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>
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>>RonB
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>For cheap and easy and "good enough" performance, try just about any 1 meg
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>cirrus 5426 or 5428 card. Works great for me, faster drivers than
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>MSWindoze, no annoying ghosting or bugging or anything for me at 1024x768.
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>Could even get virtual 1152x8something I think, but I don't like the virtual
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>screen sliding around like that...
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>
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>-=>Sean Long
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I just got Xfree85 3.1 (X11R6) running on my server at work. It has a
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Cobra card in it, which is an ET4000/W32i chipset. I'm using the new W32
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accelerated driver, and most everything works well (except what happened
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to cntrl-alt-plus/minus to switch modes). This card was available from
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a local vendor for $121 (to MSU). It can be upgraded to 2MB. I've personally
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got a #9GXE L12 VLB at home, but for under $150, the ET4000/W32i is a
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better deal (although drivers are nearly as nice as #9's).
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Reply-To: decello@beal.cpp.msu.edu
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--
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=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Joseph P. DeCello III ***Computer Asst.*** Phone: (517)355-9582
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Michigan State University, Computer Lab email:decello@beal.cpp.msu.edu
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Campus Park&Planning:MTuWF 1p-5p Statistics&Probability:TuTh 9a-12p
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------------------------------
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From: jtodd@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (Jeremy Todd)
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Subject: finger/who/w problems in slackware 2.0.1?
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Date: 13 Oct 1994 04:12:43 GMT
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I recently upgraded from 1.2.0 to 2.0.1, and am having a few
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problems. For one, finger, who, and w are all acting up. It insists
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that no one is logged on *unless* I am running X at the time, in which
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case it successfully reports root is logged on, but no one else. My gut
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feeling tells me this is some kind of permission problem, but I'm very
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confused by the whole thing.
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Also, can anyone tell me why crond is periodically telling me
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about process updates? Every few minutes it brings up another notice
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about /usr/bin/atrun. I've checked the rc's, and it is started with
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redirection. Any ideas?
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Thanks,
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-jht
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--
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jtodd@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu ==================================================
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Don't kiss an elephant on the lips today.
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------------------------------
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From: sdgb1@cus.cam.ac.uk (Shaune Beattie)
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Subject: Re: help with FTape
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Date: 14 Oct 1994 12:52:29 GMT
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BRAD A ODEGARD (odeg0008@eel.micro.umn.edu) wrote:
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: well, i patched the code. but i stil have th problem that the module
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: will insmod and appear to be correctly installed, but the module
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: appears not to initialize and all attempts at using the device are
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: unsuccessful... says no such device...
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: ideas? Brad
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Silly questions. 1. Have you set up the devices correctly in /dev as
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specified in the readme?
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2. What are you doing to try to access the tape? (if you are just 'mt
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rewind' then try 'mt -f /dev/**** rewind' where **** is the name of the
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device ie. rft1,nrft1 (i think... was a late night :-) ,nftape,ftape
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-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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|Snail: |Email: (choose one of) |Tel: +44(0)223 501878 |
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|Shaune Beattie |sdgb1@cam.ac.uk |(From 13/10/94) |
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|St. Catharine's College |shaune@beattie.demon.co.uk |Thought for the day... |
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|Cambridge CB2 1RL | |I need a better sig :) |
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-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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------------------------------
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Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.windows.x.motif
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From: plm@atcmp.nl (Peter Mutsaers)
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Subject: Re: New Motif lib's for use with XFree 3.1 ?
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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 12:38:21 GMT
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>> On 13 Oct 1994 13:09:57 GMT, jcburt@gatsibm.larc.nasa.gov (John
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>> Burton) said:
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JB> You know, this is an interesting point of view...A *new* product comes
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JB> out (XFree86 3.1) that is *not* compatible with an existing product
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JB> (Motif), yet instead of asking why the *new* product is not compatible
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JB> with the *existing* product, you choose to question *why* the existing
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JB> product is not immediately made compatible with the new product...the
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JB> logic is a bit skewed here...
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JB> Personally, I think the XFree folks should have consulted more with
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JB> the Motif folks *before* releasing their product so that most of these
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JB> incompatibility issues could be ironed out...
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XFree is a free product, Motif is not. I think that is an important
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part of the problem. If Motif were free (its source code) then its
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authors (or others) would have made a new release together or shortly
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after X11R6 and it would have been naturally included in the XFree
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distribution (just like the Athena widgets are now).
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I keep finding it extremely irritant that on a 100% free system like
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Linux you have to pay (relatively much) for such a tiny part of the
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whole like a widget set, and that all restrictions that come from this
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(like no source code availability) is causing all this grief.
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|
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I am looking forward to the day (and pray that it will ever come :)
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that there is a free alternative of Motif available. Maybe X11R6's
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Fresco or the FWF will provide such an alternative.
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--
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Peter Mutsaers | AT Computing bv, P.O. Box 1428,
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plm@atcmp.nl | 6501 BK Nijmegen, The Netherlands
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tel. work: +31 (0)80 527248 |
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tel. home: +31 (0)3405 71093 | "... En..., doet ie het al?"
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------------------------------
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From: plm@atcmp.nl (Peter Mutsaers)
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Subject: Re: XFree86-3.1 - Whoopee!
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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 12:43:19 GMT
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>> On Sat, 8 Oct 1994 10:59:29 GMT, knick@cove.han.de (Michael Knigge) said:
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MK> And fvwm? NO PROBLEM! Use your _OLD_ Libs from X11R5 and it will
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MK> run. I saw a new Release of libXpm specially for X11R6 - but
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MK> I've not tried this.
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I tried it, and did with fvwm. It runs fine, and it saves in core
|
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memory because you no longer need to load the old shared libraries
|
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next to the new ones.
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--
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Peter Mutsaers | AT Computing bv, P.O. Box 1428,
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plm@atcmp.nl | 6501 BK Nijmegen, The Netherlands
|
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tel. work: +31 (0)80 527248 |
|
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tel. home: +31 (0)3405 71093 | "... En..., doet ie het al?"
|
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|
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------------------------------
|
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|
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From: sdgb1@cus.cam.ac.uk (Shaune Beattie)
|
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Subject: Re: formatting tapes
|
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Date: 14 Oct 1994 12:54:40 GMT
|
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|
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little thought.. how about formatting under dosemu? not sure if it will
|
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be able to access the tape though :-/ i'll try it when i get back to my
|
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computer.
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-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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|Snail: |Email: (choose one of) |Tel: +44(0)223 501878 |
|
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|Shaune Beattie |sdgb1@cam.ac.uk |(From 13/10/94) |
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|St. Catharine's College |shaune@beattie.demon.co.uk |Thought for the day... |
|
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|Cambridge CB2 1RL | |I need a better sig :) |
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-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
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|
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------------------------------
|
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|
||||
From: Dave Sill <de5@sws5.ctd.ornl.gov>
|
||||
Crossposted-To: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.announce,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.development
|
||||
Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.os.linux reorganization
|
||||
Date: 14 Oct 1994 15:45:43 -0400
|
||||
|
||||
REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
|
||||
comp.os.linux reorganization
|
||||
|
||||
Summary: An extensive reorganization of the comp.os.linux hierarchy is
|
||||
proposed. It includes the creation of five unmoderated
|
||||
groups, the renaming of three unmoderated groups, and the
|
||||
creation of one moderated group.
|
||||
|
||||
Proponent: Dave Sill, de5@ornl.gov
|
||||
|
||||
History: This proposed reorganization was prompted originally by the
|
||||
excessive level of traffic in comp.os.linux.help. Following
|
||||
a straw poll conducted by the proponent, an RFD was posted
|
||||
for breaking comp.os.linux.help into various subgroups and
|
||||
creating comp.os.linux.answers for separating the
|
||||
documentation and announcements currently posted to
|
||||
comp.os.linux.announce. During the discussion period, it
|
||||
became evident that it would be preferable to create the
|
||||
groups directly under comp.os.linux, rather than splitting
|
||||
comp.os.linux.help. The previous RFD reflected that change.
|
||||
|
||||
This revision of the RFD incorporates several other changes
|
||||
resulting from the previous 11 days of discussion.
|
||||
|
||||
1) Create group: comp.os.linux.advocacy (unmoderated)
|
||||
|
||||
Charter: For discussion of the benefits of Linux compared to other
|
||||
operating systems.
|
||||
|
||||
2) Create group: comp.os.linux.answers (moderated)
|
||||
|
||||
Charter: For posting Linux FAQs, How-To's, READMEs and other
|
||||
documents that answer questions about Linux. This will
|
||||
help keep the traffic down in other c.o.l.* groups and will
|
||||
leave comp.os.linux.announce for true announcements.
|
||||
C.o.l.answers will be moderated by Matt Welsh
|
||||
(mdw@cs.cornell.edu), the moderator of c.o.l.announce.
|
||||
|
||||
3) Create group: comp.os.linux.development.apps (unmoderated)
|
||||
|
||||
Charter: For questions and discussion regarding the writing of
|
||||
applications for Linux and the porting of applications to
|
||||
Linux.
|
||||
|
||||
4) Create group: comp.os.linux.hardware (unmoderated)
|
||||
|
||||
Charter: For questions and discussion specific to a particular piece
|
||||
of hardware, e.g., "can this system run Linux?", "how do I
|
||||
use this disk drive with Linux?", etc.
|
||||
|
||||
5) Create group: comp.os.linux.networking (unmoderated)
|
||||
|
||||
Charter: For questions and discussion relating to networking or
|
||||
communications including Ethernet boards, serial
|
||||
communications, SLIP, etc.
|
||||
|
||||
6) Create group: comp.os.linux.x (unmoderated)
|
||||
|
||||
Charter: For questions and discussion relating to X Window System,
|
||||
version 11, compatible software including servers, clients,
|
||||
libraries, and fonts, running under Linux. XFree86 issues
|
||||
not unique to Linux will be directed to
|
||||
comp.windows.x.i386unix.
|
||||
|
||||
7) Rename group: comp.os.linux.development (unmoderated)
|
||||
to: comp.os.linux.development.system (unmoderated)
|
||||
|
||||
Charter: For questions and discussion regarding the development of
|
||||
the Linux operating system proper: kernel, device drivers,
|
||||
loadable modules.
|
||||
|
||||
8) Rename group: comp.os.linux.admin (unmoderated)
|
||||
to: comp.os.linux.setup (unmoderated)
|
||||
|
||||
Charter: For questions and discussion relating to Linux installation
|
||||
and system administration.
|
||||
|
||||
Rationale: "setup" is clearer than "admin", and is a more obvious
|
||||
place for installation questions.
|
||||
|
||||
9) Rename group: comp.os.linux.help (unmoderated)
|
||||
to: comp.os.linux.misc (unmoderated)
|
||||
|
||||
Rationale: Comp.os.linux.help is too general. It currently overlaps
|
||||
comp.os.linux.admin, and if the proposed groups are
|
||||
created, will overlap comp.os.linux.hardware and
|
||||
comp.os.linux.networking as well as comp.os.linux.setup.
|
||||
|
||||
Note: The intent here is actually to remove comp.os.linux.help,
|
||||
not to rename it to .misc, which already exists.
|
||||
Unfortunately, it's not possible to remove it directly.
|
||||
|
||||
Comp.os.linux Reorganization Roadmap
|
||||
|
||||
Current Hierarchy Proposed Hierarchy
|
||||
|
||||
c.o.l.advocacy
|
||||
c.o.l.announce c.o.l.announce
|
||||
c.o.l.answers
|
||||
c.o.l.development c.o.l.development.system
|
||||
c.o.l.development.apps
|
||||
c.o.l.help
|
||||
c.o.l.hardware
|
||||
c.o.l.misc c.o.l.misc
|
||||
c.o.l.networking
|
||||
c.o.l.admin c.o.l.setup
|
||||
c.o.l.x
|
||||
|
||||
After a discussion period of 21-30 days, if there are not overwhelming
|
||||
objections to any of the proposed groups, there will be a Call For
|
||||
Votes (CFV) posted to the groups as this RFD. The voting period will
|
||||
be at least 21 days. Each proposal that passes, by receiving 100 more
|
||||
YES votes than NO votes and twice as many YES votes as NO votes,
|
||||
will be implemented.
|
||||
|
||||
------------------------------
|
||||
|
||||
From: mskuhn@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Markus Kuhn)
|
||||
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
|
||||
Subject: Re: PC m/boards + ncr PCI (some tips + info)
|
||||
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 19:58:03 GMT
|
||||
Reply-To: mskuhn@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
|
||||
|
||||
Angelo Haritsis <ah@doc.ic.ac.uk> wrote:
|
||||
|
||||
> Rumours say that Intel chipset PCI motherboards will have problems
|
||||
> with more than one bus-mastering PCI board.
|
||||
|
||||
A little bit more details about the early PCI chip version problems:
|
||||
|
||||
- An early version of the Intel Saturn chipset had serious problems
|
||||
with PCI burst mode and a few other things. The current version with
|
||||
PCI config revision code 04 (e.g. used on the ASUS SP3G) is ok.
|
||||
|
||||
- The S3 928P chip has a serious problem with PCI burst mode. I don't
|
||||
think this chip is used any more in today's cards. Better use
|
||||
cards based on the S3 964 or 864.
|
||||
|
||||
- An early version of the Tseng ET4000/W32p had serious PCI problems.
|
||||
There is already a fixed version available, so new cards shouldn't
|
||||
have any problems. If the production number starts with TC or T9,
|
||||
the chip is ok, but as this number changes constantly, your very new
|
||||
ET4000/W32p might also be ok with other codes printed on it. The
|
||||
new version allows in addition more than 3x faster video RAM write
|
||||
access.
|
||||
|
||||
If you buy really new PCI hardware, you shouldn't have these problems
|
||||
any more. Each new technology unfortunately requires a burn-in phase and it
|
||||
seems that PCI's has recently finished ...
|
||||
|
||||
Markus
|
||||
|
||||
---
|
||||
Markus Kuhn, Computer Science student -- University of Erlangen,
|
||||
Internet Mail: <mskuhn@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> - Germany
|
||||
WWW Home: <http://wwwcip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/user/mskuhn>
|
||||
|
||||
------------------------------
|
||||
|
||||
From: keaec@westminster.ac.uk (Simon Nash)
|
||||
Subject: Where?
|
||||
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 11:40:29 GMT
|
||||
|
||||
Please could someone tell me where I can ftp a copy of Linux.
|
||||
|
||||
Thanks,
|
||||
Simon
|
||||
|
||||
|
||||
--
|
||||
__ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ _______ ____ ____
|
||||
| / __||_ _||_ _|_ _| / _ \ / _ \ | s.f.nash | \\///// |
|
||||
| \__ \ | | | | | |_| || | | | (c) | @wmin.ac | (=) (o) |
|
||||
|__ |___/|___||__|_|__| \___/ |_| |_| ______| .uk |__oOO___(_)___OOo__|
|
||||
|
||||
------------------------------
|
||||
|
||||
From: Gerald.C.Snyder@jpl.nasa.gov (Gerry Snyder)
|
||||
Subject: Re: Linux Mosaic using Athena
|
||||
Date: 14 Oct 1994 18:32:43 GMT
|
||||
|
||||
In article <37mcl7$eau@news.cais.com>, bass@cais2.cais.com (Tim Bass (Network Systems Engineer)) says:
|
||||
>
|
||||
>Can't answer your question below. But with the source code available,
|
||||
>it shouldn't be too hard to make one.
|
||||
>
|
||||
>ahmad@nl101.ittpub.nl wrote:
|
||||
>: Hi !
|
||||
>
|
||||
>: I would like to know if there is Mosaic available for linux using
|
||||
>: Athena widgets as I don't have Mosaic.
|
||||
>: You can mail me directly at 'samia@ittpub.nl'.
|
||||
>: Thanks.
|
||||
>: Sami Ahmad
|
||||
>: samia@ittpub.nl
|
||||
|
||||
How about just using the readily available statically linked
|
||||
binary, which has all the Motif stuff compiled in???
|
||||
|
||||
Gerry Gerald.C.Snyder@jpl.nasa.gov
|
||||
|
||||
------------------------------
|
||||
|
||||
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.os.linux.misc
|
||||
From: hpa@ahab.eecs.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
|
||||
Subject: Re: Mystery Chip...AMD
|
||||
Reply-To: hpa@nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
|
||||
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 13:03:42 GMT
|
||||
|
||||
Followup to: <37ln5h$acb@gate.fzi.de>
|
||||
By author: berthold@fzi.de
|
||||
In newsgroup: comp.os.linux.admin
|
||||
>
|
||||
> You should know the facts before posting "stupid" flames. The "4" has
|
||||
> nothing to do with the clock-tripling but with the performace compared
|
||||
> to a normal 486.
|
||||
> And you should have said: AMD will "copy" another chip from Intel. :-)
|
||||
>
|
||||
|
||||
I get it...
|
||||
|
||||
486DX2-66 has 1/2 the performance of a hypothetical real DX-66,
|
||||
486DX3-100 would have meant 1/3 the performance of a DX-100,
|
||||
so then DX4-100 must mean...
|
||||
|
||||
/hpa
|
||||
|
||||
|
||||
|
||||
--
|
||||
INTERNET: hpa@nwu.edu --- Allah'u'abha ---
|
||||
IBM MAIL: I0050052 at IBMMAIL HAM RADIO: N9ITP or SM4TKN
|
||||
FIDONET: 1:115/511 or 1:115/512 STORMNET: 181:294/1 or 181:294/101
|
||||
Id imperfectum manet dum confectum erit.
|
||||
|
||||
------------------------------
|
||||
|
||||
From: rob@bip.anatomy.upenn.edu (Robert G. Smith)
|
||||
Subject: Re: dosemu0.52 & linux1.1.52 problem
|
||||
Date: 12 Oct 1994 12:55:59 GMT
|
||||
|
||||
Dino Butorac (III rac) (dinob@zems.etf.hr) wrote:
|
||||
: I am running linux 1.1.52 and I compiled dosemu0.52. I tried to do things
|
||||
: just like it is written in the Quickstart file, but when I type dos -A, I
|
||||
: get a 'segmentation fault' and the machine hangs... To be worse, my floppy
|
||||
: is scrambled beyond recognition after that :((. After I destroyed 2 floppies
|
||||
: I had no other options but to stop experimenting.
|
||||
|
||||
The 0.52 version is rather "old" by now.
|
||||
Try updating to a recent dosemu:
|
||||
|
||||
tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/ALPHA/dosemu/private/devel/pre53_25
|
||||
|
||||
The recent pre53 dosemu versions compile and run very nicely.
|
||||
|
||||
Rob Smith
|
||||
|
||||
------------------------------
|
||||
|
||||
|
||||
** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **
|
||||
|
||||
The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
|
||||
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:
|
||||
|
||||
Internet: Linux-Admin-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU
|
||||
|
||||
You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.admin) via:
|
||||
|
||||
Internet: Linux-Admin@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU
|
||||
|
||||
Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
|
||||
nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux
|
||||
tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux
|
||||
sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
|
||||
|
||||
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|
||||
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|
||||
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