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From: Digestifier <Linux-Admin-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Tue, 30 Aug 94 23:13:22 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #3
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Linux-Admin Digest #3, Volume #2 Tue, 30 Aug 94 23:13:22 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: [Q]ncftp no keystroke echo after "mget" (Mike Gleason)
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FTP via TERM (Jagadeesh Krishnamurthy Venugopal)
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Re: Adaptec 2742 bootdisk: kernel panic (Tim D. Bandy)
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Re: WTMP question (Ulf Rimkus)
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Re: Linux as router - several questions. (Johannes Stille)
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Re: Admin utils for linux ? (Mike Suzio)
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DOSEMU 0.53: termcap file (Chris Stuber)
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[Q]ncftp no keystroke echo after "mget" (david her)
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Telnet tmok.res.wpi.edu for linux BBS. (Dave Costantino)
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Re: Xconsole - little trick won't work any more (sorry) (sharpe randall k)
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Re: Whats the best ISA video card for Linux/Xfree? (Viktor T. Toth)
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Re: How to kill the unkillable ? (Dirk J.)
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Does smail have problems with numerical usernames? (Jose Acacio de Barros)
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BRK key on older VT100 classs terminals? (Ron Watkins)
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Re: WTMP question (Anthony W. Kay)
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Re: Admin utils for linux ? (Safuat Hamdy)
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----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: mgleason@cse.unl.edu (Mike Gleason)
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Subject: Re: [Q]ncftp no keystroke echo after "mget"
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Date: 30 Aug 1994 22:18:36 GMT
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davidher@netcom.com (david her) writes:
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|I just implemented tcp/ip in slackware2.0. ftp/telnet seems work,
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|but after "mget" via ncftp the keystroke is echo on screen at all
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|the repsones also seems "retarded". Did you experence this before?
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|please be advised. Thanks in advance.
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I'm not sure what you're trying to say exactly, but I can tell you
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that echoing is turned off during file transfers. This prevents
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your keystrokes from messing up the progress meters.
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--
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--mg Mike Gleason <mgleason@cse.unl.edu>
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------------------------------
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From: jkvg@everest.ccs.neu.edu (Jagadeesh Krishnamurthy Venugopal)
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Subject: FTP via TERM
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Date: 30 Aug 1994 22:29:49 GMT
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Hi.
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I have been pretty successful at setting up a telnet service to my Linux
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machine using the term package, from school. So anyone who telnets to a
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specified port to my school machine automatically connects to my home linux.
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This was done by tredir 5000 23 on my school account.
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Unfortunately redirecting FTP this way fails. Ftp logs the user in but then
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hangs and has to be killed. I have absolutely no idea why this is so.
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If anyone has telnet and ftp running via term, could you please clue me in on
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this?
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Thanks,
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Jagadeesh
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--
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Jagadeesh K. Venugopal
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Graduate Student, College of Computer Science
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Northeastern University
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Boston, MA 02115
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xmosaic url: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jkvg
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------------------------------
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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From: bandy@gurney.cs.umn.edu (Tim D. Bandy)
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Subject: Re: Adaptec 2742 bootdisk: kernel panic
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Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 21:17:29 GMT
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In <33vl8g$1kg@news.bu.edu> fstarr@buphy.bu.edu (Francis W. Starr) writes:
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>I have been trying to install Linux on my system with an Adaptec
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>2742 SCSI controller. I have tried the bootdisks available from
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>sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/linux/kernel/images/boot284x.tar.gz and one
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>from ftp.pipex.net:/incoming/linux/aha2740.gz. I get the
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>following error using either of these disks shortly after the
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>boot prompt:
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>Kernel panic=aha274x_isr: brkadrint, error=0xff, seqaddr=0x100
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>In swapper task - not syncing
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Whenever I boot the new bootdisk from ftp.sunsite.edu:/pub/Linux/kernel/images
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Lilo boots, then the ramdisk loads, but I get this error:
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Uncompressing linux:
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crc error
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System halted
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I have used both dd on a sun and the dos rawrite utility, and each gives
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the same results. If someone could give me a clue also, I would
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appreciate it.
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Background info:
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486Dx266 with Adaptec 2842 VLB SCSI card.
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Thanks
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--
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Tim Bandy University of Minnesota
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timn8r@mermaid.micro.umn.edu bandy@cs.umn.edu
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Systems Staff License to kill
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--
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Tim Bandy University of Minnesota
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timn8r@mermaid.micro.umn.edu bandy@cs.umn.edu
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Systems Staff License to kill
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------------------------------
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From: ulf@pc0435.psychologie.uni-marburg.de (Ulf Rimkus)
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Subject: Re: WTMP question
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Date: 30 Aug 1994 21:24:21 GMT
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Daniel Tran (dtran@emelnitz.ucla.edu) wrote:
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: Hi,
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: The /usr/adm/wtmp file records all logins/logouts. Upon examining the system,
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: I found that there isn't a file like that. How do you enable this process?.
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: Can someone help me out.
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Then try a
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1) cd /var/adm
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2) cat /dev/null >wtmp (or just a 'touch wtmp' if you are sure there is no
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wtmp at all).
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3) maybe it could a good idea to make a 'cd /etc'
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4) then to do a 'ln -s /var/adm/wtmp .'
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Hope, this helps
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Ulf
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--
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**E-Mail*********************************************************************
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Linux-Box: ulf@pc0435.psychologie.uni-marburg.de
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RS6k-AIX : rimkusul@papin.hrz.uni-marburg.de
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****************** Was ist das fuer ein Land, *******************************
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********* in dessen Sprache es das Wort "Kulturbeutel" gibt? ****************
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------------------------------
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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From: johannes@titan.westfalen.de (Johannes Stille)
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Subject: Re: Linux as router - several questions.
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Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 12:48:39 GMT
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In article <199408242342.BAA07396@lnx1.boa.uni.torun.pl>,
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Maciej Otreba <motreba@boa.uni.torun.pl> wrote:
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>Hi everybody,
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>
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>could You folks tell me something about using Linux host as router? I mean
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>using SLIP connection and/or two smae/different Ethernet cards between two
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>Ethernet segments. I'm specially interested in problem of configuring
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>kernel and drivers for two same Ethernet cards (I/O, interrupt channel).
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>Is that possible? Are there any conflicts using two identical cards?
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It's possible. You can use two identical Ethernet cards if they are
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configured to use different addresses and IRQs (i.e. no hardware
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conflicts).
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If you use two identical cards, you have to tell the kernel where to
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find them - only one would be autodetected. You can do this either by
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editing drivers/net/Space.c or by giving the kernel an appropriate
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command line using LILO (ether=..., I don't know the exact syntax).
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>How to do that? Is Linux box good solution as router? Are there any special
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>problems in using Linux in that way?
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Linux doesn't fulfil all requirements of the router RFC, but for normal
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use, it's OK. If you use an 1.1.* kernel, don't forget to recompile the
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kernel with IP forwarding enabled.
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You should try to get along with static routes. This is nearly always
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possible. If not, don't run routed, but gated.
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If you aren't an experienced network administrator, you should read the
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Network Administrators Guide by the Linux Documentation Project (NAG),
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to be found on sunsite and other Linux ftp servers.
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[...]
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Johannes
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------------------------------
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From: msuzio@tiamat.umd.umich.edu (Mike Suzio)
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Subject: Re: Admin utils for linux ?
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Date: 30 Aug 1994 17:43:43 -0400
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hamdy@rzdspc1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Safuat Hamdy) writes:
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> Every effort to enhance the user interface
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>is worth to be made. Conversely, nobody is forced to use an admintool.
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Amen, and amen. Worthy sentiments, my friend. How do you get something
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better unless you are always looking to improve the current state of
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things? If Linus had stopped at getting gcc to run, we wouldn't have
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Linux.
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>Please, I'm not interested in comments to the last paragraph, neither by
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>news nor by mail, please redirect them to /dev/null.
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Well, I hope you're open to *positive* comments. You're not alone in your
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feelings.
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>So, what is to do now? If such a set of tools for administration is really
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>wanted, then a group of users (the admins) and programmers, should determine
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>_first_ the real needs of the average admin. And then we can go coding.
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Well, as an inspiration, one set of very good admin tools are the SGI
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Vadmin tools. If you have access to an SGI box, you can take a look at the
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User Manager, NFS Manager, etc. You still need to have some concept of how
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things work in the Unix world, but it takes away most of the "icky" parts.
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Seems rather robust, too - I never had it do something other than what I
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intended :-).
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Another decent admin tool is (or at least 4 years ago, was) smit on the
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IBM RS/6000 machines. It was a non-X app for managing admin tasks, and it
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seemed to get the job done pretty well (although it probably had
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too many levels of menu to traverse).
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>I'd volunteer for contibutions to such a project _if_ there will be a team.
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So would I. I would *love* to do this kind of stuff. I have very little
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time to dink around with stuff, but I'd volunteer to help on a project like
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this. heck, i'd even be willing to learn IRC to do something like this
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:-O
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>Suggestions to:
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>S. hamdy (hamdy@informatik.uni-hamburg.de)
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>Hamburg, North-Germany
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>--
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--
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|+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++|
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| Michael J. Suzio msuzio@umich.edu |
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| Marketing Director - Friday Knight Games |
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| aka "That F*K*G company!" |
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|+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++|
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------------------------------
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From: cstuber@info.census.gov (Chris Stuber)
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Subject: DOSEMU 0.53: termcap file
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Date: 30 Aug 1994 17:48:42 -0400
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Does anyone have a *working* termcap file for DOSEMU access via
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telnet? Arrow key, etc. aint working. If anyone has got this
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stuff tweaked, Please send me a copy of your /etc/termcap file.
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Thanks,
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-Chris (Chris.Stuber@Census.GOV)
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------------------------------
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From: davidher@netcom.com (david her)
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Subject: [Q]ncftp no keystroke echo after "mget"
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Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 16:53:59 GMT
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I just implemented tcp/ip in slackware2.0. ftp/telnet seems work,
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but after "mget" via ncftp the keystroke is echo on screen at all
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the repsones also seems "retarded". Did you experence this before?
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please be advised. Thanks in advance.
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------------------------------
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From: daver@wpi.edu (Dave Costantino)
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Subject: Telnet tmok.res.wpi.edu for linux BBS.
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Date: 30 Aug 1994 23:22:14 GMT
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Hi there... telnet tmok.res.wpi.edu and login as 'new' to check out a
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linux based BBS. Its running on a 10mbps ethernet off of the campus
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T1, so there should be no speed problem...
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-> Dave
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daver@hq.tmok.com
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------------------------------
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From: sharpe@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (sharpe randall k)
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Subject: Re: Xconsole - little trick won't work any more (sorry)
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Date: 31 Aug 1994 01:18:47 GMT
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stephenb@scribendum.win-uk.net (Stephen Benson) writes:
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>
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>In article <Cv82vL.19B@odin.apana.org.au>, John Saunders (john@odin.apana.org.au) writes:
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>>Heiko Herold (hman@arianna.dei.unipd.it) wrote:
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>>> In article <CupGJK.2sG@efn.org>, Darrell Fuhriman <darrell@efn.org> wrote:
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>>> >
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>>> >I noticed this too. I got around it by running xconsole SUID root. I
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>>> >realize that may not be the ideal answer, but it worked for me.
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>>> >
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>>
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>>> Moment - you mean it worked = no error messages, or does it *really* work ?
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>>> SUIDing my xconsole only let disappear the errors, but still, as root
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>>> or as normal user with the SUID, the xconsole does _not_ work - the
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>>> messages can goes everywhere except the xconsole :(
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>>
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>>What's the problem guys? I don't have any problem with xconsole at all.
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>>The way that it should work it that xdm runs the GiveConsole script which
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>>chmod's the /dev/console file so that it is accessable by the user that
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>>logged in. Then xconsole runs with no problems. Then to actually see
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>>any messages you need to change /etc/syslog.conf so that some messages
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>>are sent to /dev/console. Just add a line to /etc/syslog.conf:
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>>
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>>*.=debug /dev/console
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>>
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>>However if your running without xdm then I'm not sure how this works.
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>>--
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>>
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>I don't use xdm, but I'll take a look. I've followed this thread for a while
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>and _finally_ got xconsole to work with:
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>startx >& /dev/console
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>which I've now aliased startx to. No problems (tho' it's probably a major
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>security hole or something; inelegant at the very least).
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>--
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>+ stephen benson + + + + + linux 1.0.9 + + xfree86 2.1.1 +
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>+ stephenb@scribendum.win-uk.net + + + + + + + + + + +
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> .*
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>+ +
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Does this work to get "talk" notices sent to the xconsole also ?
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------------------------------
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From: vttoth@vttoth.com (Viktor T. Toth)
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Subject: Re: Whats the best ISA video card for Linux/Xfree?
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Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 15:51:28
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In article <33vq0v$am9@netnews.upenn.edu> hoford@tumtum.image.chop.edu (John Hoford) writes:
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>I just got Linux up its on
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>a 386(33mhz). I was hoping to find a good svga card
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>to run. Right now I use a generic vga card.
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>I see some accelerated cards are supported.
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>Which ones perform the best (used the most by X)?
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>
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>Even subjective evaluations (comparisons) welome.
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I had very good experience with an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro. It's ISA, it's
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fast, the driver for it seems to be in excellent shape... works like a charm.
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Viktor
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------------------------------
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From: biafra@acab.in-berlin.de (Dirk J.)
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Subject: Re: How to kill the unkillable ?
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Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 09:29:16 GMT
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cjcason@yarrow.wt.uwa.edu.au (Christopher Cason) writes:
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>Occasionally, I have a program that I absolutely _cannot_ kill, short of
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>a shutdown. These seem to occur at times when the program is attempting
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>to access a part of a disk that has been corrupted (I have had filesystem
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>problems from time to time.)
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>_every_ signal has been tried. but it just refuses to die ! can anyone shed
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>any light on how to get rid of processes in this state !
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It seems to be inside a (read-)system-call. Then there is no solution but
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to mark the bad blocks. And not to access them after.
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bye biafra
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--
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--
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biafra@acab.{[isdn.]cs.tu|in}-berlin.de
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Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages,
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on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go
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------------------------------
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From: barros@ockham.Stanford.EDU (Jose Acacio de Barros)
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Subject: Does smail have problems with numerical usernames?
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Date: 30 Aug 1994 18:36:38 -0700
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Hi Folks,
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I'm having a problem. We have several users on a linux machine that
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have the username in the form "DDNNNNN", where Ds are letter and Ns
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are numbers (e.g. CL94083). Well, the problem is that whenever someone
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trys to send a message to those users the message bounces back and
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smail says the user doesn't exist. This doesn't happen for users with
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"normal" username (with only letters). Does someone know what the
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problem is? Will I have to change all usernames to usernames without
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numbers? Is there a way to fix this?
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Thanks for the help, and I'm sorry if that is a really dumb question
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or a FAQ.
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Regards,
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Jose Acacio
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--
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Jose Acacio de Barros, CSLI/Ventura Hall, Stanford University,
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Stanford, Ca 94305-4115. E-mail: acacio@ockham.stanford.edu.
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------------------------------
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From: ron@deepthought.lpl.Arizona.EDU (Ron Watkins)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
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Subject: BRK key on older VT100 classs terminals?
|
||||
Date: 30 Aug 1994 17:10:15 GMT
|
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Im trying to find out exactly what the BRK key on older Vt100 class terminals
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does.
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We are attempting to use a Linux box to be the console for a large number
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of processing machines. These machines are all hooked up to the Linux
|
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box through a Boca 16 port board. These machines ocasionally need to be
|
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stoped and worked on. When we had terminals, we used the BRK key to interupt
|
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the kernel and drop down to the EEPROM monitor.
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I need to find out how this occurs so that I can try to figure a way to
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emulate this function on the Linux keyboard.
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If anyone knows, or can tell me how to do this, please respond via e-mail
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to ron@argus.lpl.arizona.edu
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--
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Ron Watkins [ron@argus.lpl.arizona.edu] / /~~~~) /
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931 Gould-Simpson / /____/ /
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University of Arizona / / /
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Tucson AZ. 85721 -- (602) 621-8606 (____ unar & / lanetary (____ ab.
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From: tkay@crl.com (Anthony W. Kay)
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Subject: Re: WTMP question
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Date: 30 Aug 1994 18:46:25 -0700
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Daniel Tran (dtran@emelnitz.ucla.edu) wrote:
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: Hi,
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: The /usr/adm/wtmp file records all logins/logouts. Upon examining the system,
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: I found that there isn't a file like that. How do you enable this process?.
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: Can someone help me out.
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: TIA
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: Daniel Tran - dtran@emelnitz.ucla.edu
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Just a guess, but have you tried creating an empty one?
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touch /usr/adm/wtmp
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On my system, the real wtmp is in /var/adm, and there are symbolic links
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to it from /usr/adm, and /etc...I looked at the man page for login, and
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it seems to use the /var version...Instead, you might try:
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touch /var/adm/wtmp
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ln -s /var/adm/wtmp /usr/adm/wtmp
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ln -s /var/adm/wtmp /etc/wtmp
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-Tony
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From: hamdy@rzdspc1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Safuat Hamdy)
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Subject: Re: Admin utils for linux ?
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Date: 30 Aug 1994 16:56:35 GMT
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|
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William C. Strutton IV (strutton@crl.com) wrote:
|
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|
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: Greetings,
|
||||
|
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: I'm looking for a program (or shell script) to do admin tasks via a
|
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: menu. This could run from the prompt, or from X or whatever. It should
|
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: include options to add/remove users, set permissions on files and so on..
|
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|
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... interesting.
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|
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I started to write an accounttool under XView, which I considered as the
|
||||
starting point for a series of tools for the administrator. It should
|
||||
add/modify/remove users from the system, but it is such a mess whith the
|
||||
shadow password (are they official or not?), so I got a bit frustrated.
|
||||
In order of that and other reasons, I suspended it. I never finished it
|
||||
(although there exist a running prototype).
|
||||
|
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And, unfortunetaly, I have nearly no idea, what is really required by users
|
||||
(administrators). Of course I'm an admin, and I'm claiming that I'm a good
|
||||
one --- on my own system. I'm not a typical one (obviously, since I'm
|
||||
not connected to the Internet, nor do I use dip, slip, ppp, or receive news,
|
||||
and, and, and ...)
|
||||
|
||||
I also claim that I am good at writing user interfaces,
|
||||
so I would very much like to contibute to a project ``admintools''.
|
||||
But I really need to know, what is required. I need to know the real needs of
|
||||
some real admins, as I want to do something useful instead of a yet-another-
|
||||
nice-but-useless-tool.
|
||||
|
||||
As Linux is a do-it-yourself-OS, I'm afraid that my offer/announcement
|
||||
is the best thing which can happen to you. I heared about some tools
|
||||
writen with tcl/tk, but that's long ago and I've never seen them.
|
||||
|
||||
You and many people who find Linux administration cumbersome or even
|
||||
a nightmare are right: An easy to use interface for the administrator is
|
||||
required. Even worse, the lack of such tools might keep potential users
|
||||
of Linux away. OK, one of the gurus might think now: Why this? UNIX always
|
||||
has been this way, so why the efforts for such nonsense?
|
||||
This ``argument'' reduces to: That has been always like this, and that's it!
|
||||
which is an argument for nothing (I even suspect that those guys fear about
|
||||
their state as guru). Every effort to enhance the user interface
|
||||
is worth to be made. Conversely, nobody is forced to use an admintool.
|
||||
Please, I'm not interested in comments to the last paragraph, neither by
|
||||
news nor by mail, please redirect them to /dev/null.
|
||||
|
||||
So, what is to do now? If such a set of tools for administration is really
|
||||
wanted, then a group of users (the admins) and programmers, should determine
|
||||
_first_ the real needs of the average admin. And then we can go coding.
|
||||
|
||||
I'd volunteer for contibutions to such a project _if_ there will be a team.
|
||||
|
||||
Suggestions to:
|
||||
|
||||
S. hamdy (hamdy@informatik.uni-hamburg.de)
|
||||
Hamburg, North-Germany
|
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