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From: Digestifier <Linux-Admin-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
Reply-To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 94 03:13:50 EDT
Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #61
Linux-Admin Digest #61, Volume #2 Wed, 14 Sep 94 03:13:50 EDT
Contents:
Re: SEARCH: Clock setting Programm for 24X (Klaus Lichtenwalder)
Re: seyon and rz/sz (hoover david)
Doom env (Lee J. Silverman)
Re: Need DL/Time Limiting ideas - Linux BBS (Thomas Quinot)
2.90 sound driver problem in 1.1.45 (Peter Sierant)
Re: DOMM 4 Linux /X is OUT !!! (Dan Newcombe)
Ethernet booting from a diskless Linux box (temasek!shim!shim!shim!ivan@csah.com)
ingreslock does not work (Peter Parzer)
Re: routing question (Gregory Trubetskoy)
Re: Drives with too many heads (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
Re: Lilo wish (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
Re: Doom HAS no pixel doubling (Dan Hildebrand)
Re: Q: NFS, Linux -> Macintosh (Matthias Urlichs)
Re: Plug_n_Play Modules (David Hinds)
AFS in Linux (Mr. Chow Wing Siu)
Re: DOMM 4 Linux /X is OUT !!! (Forkboy)
seyon and rz/sz (Dopey (Andy Wang))
NFS performance (David J. Perkel)
login USERID length problem (Brian Watts)
Re: 2.90 sound driver problem in 1.1.45 (Trae Bailey)
Re: Two Hostnames: Possible? (Cord Hockemeyer)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: klaus@gaston.isar.muc.de (Klaus Lichtenwalder)
Subject: Re: SEARCH: Clock setting Programm for 24X
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 08:06:09 GMT
k.dittmann@wizzard.ping.de writes:
>I'am searching for an Program named: CLOCK !
>This tool is designed, to change the clock settings of an Speedstar 24X
>Graphicsadapter.
As far as I know, it's called freq. (At least on my machine :)
Look for speedstar-fix on sunsite (or its mirrors).
Klaus
--
__________________________________________________________________________
Klaus Lichtenwalder, Dipl. Inf., Buschingstr. 65
D-81677 Muenchen, F.R. Germany, Fax +49-89-98292755
email: Lichtenwalder@ACM.org, klaus@gaston.isar.muc.de
------------------------------
From: hoover@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (hoover david)
Subject: Re: seyon and rz/sz
Date: 13 Sep 1994 15:36:17 GMT
awang@plains.NoDak.edu (Dopey (Andy Wang)) writes:
>i can't seem to get downloading to work with seyon..
>sz/rz doesn't want to work.
>when i run sz from the remote end it does seomthing like
>print out the header for rz then it just dies.
>and hanges there..
>any clues why?
you must use 'export RZSZLINE=/dev/modem' in your shell,
where /dev/modem is a symbolic link to your modem device.
I don't know why this isn't documented. Hope it works.
Dave.
>--
>*******************************************************************************
>* Life's Great Mystery: * Legalize Marijuana * awang@plains.nodak.edu *
>* Do I really exist or am * Don't let the * awang@badlands.nodak.edu *
>* I just a dreamer afraid * government fuck up * dopey@dsu1.dsu.nodak.edu *
>* to wake up and live? * your rights. * andy@head.neurology.wisc.edu *
>***************************** Dopey (Andy Wang) *******************************
------------------------------
From: lee@netspace.students.brown.edu (Lee J. Silverman)
Subject: Doom env
Date: 13 Sep 1994 08:05:52 GMT
The README.Linux file that comes with the copy of Doom that I
got from sunsite says that I can set the doom WAD directory by setting
an environment variable DOOMWADDIR to the directory which holds the
doom1.wad file. I can't get this to work, but I'd like to install the
wad in a general location so that all users of my machine can play
doom easily. Has anyone gotten this to work?
Does the registered version check to see if more than one copy
of Doom is running on the same machine?
--
Lee Silverman, Brown class of '94, Brown GeoPhysics ScM '95
Email to: Lee_Silverman@brown.edu
Phish-Net Archivist: phish-archives@phish.net
"Nonsense - you only say it's impossible because nobody's ever done it."
------------------------------
From: thomas@melchior.frmug.fr.net (Thomas Quinot)
Crossposted-To: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.unixbbs
Subject: Re: Need DL/Time Limiting ideas - Linux BBS
Date: 12 Sep 1994 16:30:39 +0200
Le Prostetnic Vogon Greg Corteville <20>crit :
> limit login times and establish an upload/download ratio system. If you
> have ideas on how I could accomplish this with shell scripts or simple C
> programs let me know.
I guess you could save the login-shell's pid at the beginning of the
session, then retrieve the remaining time for the user and use 'at' to
kill that shell when the time is elapsed...
--
Thomas QUINOT | "Un roi sans divertissement est un
<thomas@melchior.frmug.fr.net> | homme plein de mis<69>re."
Linux - choice of a GNU generation | Jean GIONO
------------------------------
From: flipper@pentagon.io.com (Peter Sierant)
Subject: 2.90 sound driver problem in 1.1.45
Date: 13 Sep 1994 10:42:25 -0500
I've been using the 1.1.19 kernel for several months without a
problem. Sound worked great for au files, mods, and cd audio, etc.
Last night I upgraded to 1.1.45/ 2.90 sound, and now if I
cat welcome.au > /dev/audio, It plays but gives a write io error, then
repeats part of the file, then quits. Sound card is a PAS16, machine is
a 486/40 vlb, 16MB. When configuring the new kernel I chose not full
package, PAS16, no SB, irq10, dma3, opl3, dig voice, 65536 bufs.
Also on an unrelated note, where can I find 1.1.50? I checked the usual
places, but I must be missing something.
Thanks,
--
--Pete Ugly box of mostly Microsoft
flipper@io.com
jblues@wintermute.tci.com
psierant@klaven.tci.com ECNE Linux OS/2
------------------------------
From: newcombe@aa.csc.peachnet.edu (Dan Newcombe)
Subject: Re: DOMM 4 Linux /X is OUT !!!
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 16:47:11 UNDEFINED
In article <440@scribendum.win-uk.net> stephenb@scribendum.win-uk.net (Stephen Benson) writes:
>I too would like to hear how it compares to the DOS version in terms of speed
>etc... on the same machine (486/33, 8 MB, 1 MB local bus graphics in my case)
No offense, but my opinion would be it doesn't. I have a 386DX33 w/8M and 1MB
graphics. I can run it fine under DOS, but under Linux, it's sluggish. Most
of this is due to the sound. In fact, the sound really kills it.
-Dan
--
Dan Newcombe newcombe@aa.csc.peachnet.edu
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
"And the man in the mirror has sad eyes." -Marillion
------------------------------
From: temasek!shim!shim!shim!ivan@csah.com
Subject: Ethernet booting from a diskless Linux box
Date: 13 Sep 1994 10:36:23 GMT
Has anyone managed to do an ethernet boot from a diskless Linux box?
If so, could you netmail me. Thanks.
-Ivan
------------------------------
From: fc4@aixterm2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Peter Parzer)
Subject: ingreslock does not work
Date: 13 Sep 1994 09:11:29 GMT
Concurrency control for ingres does not work on my system. I've tried
both the latest versions from sunsite and tsx-11. But whenever I try
to start up the daemon ingreslock, he dies. Compiling with the DEBUG
flag set shows that the select system call returns an error (in ildr.c).
The services file is correct.
My kernel is 1.0.8, gcc is 2.5.8 and libc is 4.5.24.
Has someone a working concurrency control for ingres ? Can someone give
me a hint where the problem is ?
Thanks in advance
--
Peter Parzer
University of Heidelberg
Dept. of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
Peter.Parzer@urz.uni-heidelberg.de
Peter.Parzer@krzmail.krz.uni-heidelberg.de
------------------------------
From: grisha@cais2.cais.com (Gregory Trubetskoy)
Subject: Re: routing question
Date: 13 Sep 1994 15:41:30 GMT
Judjung by some responses I got, I didn't make it very clear as to what
the story is.
I have a registered class C network IP number. Both PC1 and PC2 to are
hosts on this network. My Internet provider has his end set up so that
all the packets for my network go to PC1. I know they do indeed. But
they do not seem to get past PC1 to PC2 even though it seems like PC1
contains enough info to know where to send them.
If ppp0 has an IP of, say, 199.0.0.1 and ppp1 was 199.0.0.2, then
wouldn't it make sense for kernel to send (forward) a packet arriving
from the Internet via 199.0.0.1 addressed to 199.0.0.2, to ppp1?
I am not an expert on TCP/IP, so may be I'm missing something obvious.
Anyhow, the original post follows:
Gregory Trubetskoy (grisha@cais.cais.com) wrote:
: If you have a PC with two modems, one hooked-up to the Inet, the other
: set for dial-in ppp (ppp0 and ppp1, respectively), like this:
: Internet<---->ppp0 ppp1<----->ppp0
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^
: PC 1 PC 2
: Does PC 1 have to run routed or gated? I don't seem to be able to connect
: from PC 2 to the Internet, but can telnet (or ping) to PC 1 and telnet from
: there to Internet. And, yes, IP routing/gatewaying (or is it
: forwarding/gatewaying?) in my kernel is [y].
: This may be a simple question, but I would really appreciate an answer.
: Thank You.
: --
: ----------------------------------------------------------------
: Gregory Trubetskoy grisha@cais.com
: ----------------------------------------------------------------
--
================================================================
Gregory Trubetskoy grisha@cais.com
================================================================
------------------------------
From: mah@ka4ybr.com (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
Subject: Re: Drives with too many heads
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 21:38:47 GMT
Kenneth H. Gantz (kgantz@iglou.iglou.com) wrote:
:
: This is a very good explanation of the procedure for large IDE drives.
: The only thing I would add, is what to do if it's your second physical
: drive that's the big one. That's the situation I had and it drove me
: half nuts because no one ever gave an example the the hd= incantation
: for the second drive. It turns out to be really simple. I my case, my
: firs drive is 424 megs and under the 1023 limit while my second drive
: is 730 megs and over the 1023 cylider limit. When you get to the boot
: prompt in a situation like this, you include a hd= statement for BOTH
: drives even though the first one (in my case) was no problem. So, in
: my example it looked like this boot: ramdisk hd=989,15,56 hd=1416,16,63.
: To get lilo to work, you'll have to put these two lines at the top of
: your lilo.conf file: append="hd=989,15,56 hd=1416,16,63" and on the next
: line: linear. Those numbers are for my drives, you'll have to substitute
: the numbers for your drives. And you do need the quotes like in my example.
: I've had lilo booting contentedly off of my large hard drive for quite some
: time. Now if I could only figure out how to install lilo on a floppy. Why
: doesn't this work? lilo -C /etc/lilo.conf -v -r /flop (where /flop is the
: place I have /dev/fd0 mounted.
: --
: Ken Gantz
: kgantz@iglou.com
: Work - 502.329.3724 IT IS NOT A PROBLEM OF WHETHER MACHINES THINK,
: FAX - 502.329.6199 BUT WHETHER MEN DO. - B.F. Skinner
Excellent addition, Ken! I'm sorry I left that out... got so used to single
disk examples I forgot to add that! *blush* Thanks for appending that
very important piece of information! (one of these days I'm going to have
ALL these little overrides inventoried and then put out a HOWTO on all of
them! If you've got any you wish to add to the list, please send them
to override@ka4ybr.com Thanks!
-- mark
----
"Linux! Guerrilla UNIX Development Venimus, Vidimus, Dolavimus."
============================================================
Mark A. Horton ka4ybr mah@ka4ybr.atl.ga.us
P.O. Box 747 Decatur GA US 30031-0747 mah@ka4ybr.com
+1.404.371.0291 33 45 31 N / 084 16 59 W
------------------------------
From: mah@ka4ybr.com (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
Subject: Re: Lilo wish
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 21:41:44 GMT
Pile Smurf (mflt_cif@uhura.cc.rochester.edu) wrote:
: I have my Lilo set up to ask whether I want to run DOS or Linux at boot-up.
: The problem is, if I crash the machine remotely, and I manange to re-boot
: it, it will stay at the Lilo prompt until I can get back to my room to hit
: enter (to run linux). Is there a way to set up Lilo so that after a minute,
: it will automatically choose the "default" choice?
: Mat Felthousen
Sure Mat -- just use the prompt and timeout parameters in your lilo.conf. ex:
# LILO configuration file
# generated by 'liloconfig'
#
# Start LILO global section
boot = /dev/sda
#compact # faster, but won't work on all systems.
verbose=9 # tell me everything
prompt # so I'm lazy
timeout=300 # so I'm slow
vga = 3 # force tiny characters
ramdisk = 0 # don't need no steeking ramdisk
# End LILO global section
# Linux bootable partition config begins
image = /vmlinuz
root = /dev/sda2
label = Linux
# Linux bootable partition config ends
# SCO bootable partition config begins
other = /dev/sda1 # sco demands this partition Grrr...
label = sco # interloper
table = /dev/sda # look it up
# SCO bootable partition config ends
-- Mark
--
"Linux! Guerrilla UNIX Development Venimus, Vidimus, Dolavimus."
============================================================
Mark A. Horton ka4ybr mah@ka4ybr.atl.ga.us
P.O. Box 747 Decatur GA US 30031-0747 mah@ka4ybr.com
+1.404.371.0291 33 45 31 N / 084 16 59 W
------------------------------
Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
From: danh@qnx.com (Dan Hildebrand)
Subject: Re: Doom HAS no pixel doubling
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 94 13:22:03 GMT
In article <350au6$47a@harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au>,
Kevin Lentin <kevinl@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au> wrote:
>Stephen Harris (hsw1@papa.attmail.com) wrote:
>
>> The only question I have: Why does it ask me if I want to return to DOS ???
>> :-)
>
>They all do. Even the SGI version. I think it's quite cute. Shows just how
>literally it was ported. Then again, that message could come from the WAD
>file.
Not all of them. The QNX version asks if you want to return to QNX. :-)
--
Dan Hildebrand danh@qnx.com QNX Software Systems, Ltd.
phone: (613) 591-0931 x204 (voice) 175 Terence Matthews
(613) 591-3579 (fax) Kanata, Ontario, Canada K2M 1W8
------------------------------
From: urlichs@smurf.noris.de (Matthias Urlichs)
Subject: Re: Q: NFS, Linux -> Macintosh
Date: 13 Sep 1994 20:01:44 +0200
In comp.os.linux.admin, article <zackCvrnwr.GHx@netcom.com>,
zack@netcom.com (Zack T. Smith) writes:
>
> The Mac emulator "Executor" creates two files for each fork when reading/
> writing to a non-HFS filesystem, namely filename and %filename. I think
> I would go for either the % form or an extension e.g. .rsrc.
>
That's the AppleDouble standard way to store the Mac file info. NFS/Share
(a NFS Mac client) also uses this scheme, as does A/UX (Apple's Unix for
the Mac).
> Someone is already porting CAP to Linux; I asked about this a while
> back and got a response from one of the people doing it. If you'd
> like I can dig up the email...
>
Hopefully soon... NFS/Share doesn't work right if you do complex stuff.
(Files end up with holes ... ugh.) I haven't yet found out if this is a
problem of NFS/Share or of the Linux server.
--
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It was an act of congress.
-- "On This Day in History"
--
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From: dhinds@allegro.stanford.edu (David Hinds)
Subject: Re: Plug_n_Play Modules
Date: 13 Sep 1994 03:05:48 GMT
Bill Morris (morris@bill.sps.mot.com) wrote:
: When coming across what I thought was a new peripheral
: labeled as an "IDE Performance Enhancer" which promised to almost
: double the throughput of my IDE drive using the multi-sector
: capabilities of newer IDE drives, I became curious but didn't
: purchase this item because I also noticed it was of the newer
: generation peripherals called PnP or Plug_n_Play. Sounds like
: a great concept for those who cannot flip dip switches or a
: great way for Microsoft and Intel to try and limit the infil-
: tration of Linux/*nix OS's onto their hallowed ground. I don't
: know whether this has been discussed before or whether it de-
: serves air time, but I am concerned about the proliferation of
: these new peripherals.
There's a published hardware specification and API for Plug and Play,
so it should be possible to support these devices under Linux.
-- David Hinds
dhinds@allegro.stanford.edu
------------------------------
From: wschow@comp.hkbc.hk (Mr. Chow Wing Siu)
Subject: AFS in Linux
Date: 13 Sep 1994 06:56:17 GMT
I've heard Linux _will be_ ported with AFS by some authors.
Is it true?
--
Johnson Chow
------------------------------
From: kmzoerho@mtu.edu (Forkboy)
Subject: Re: DOMM 4 Linux /X is OUT !!!
Date: 13 Sep 1994 23:46:11 -0400
In article <355omg$pmp@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>,
Joseph W. DeVincentis <devjoe@wilma.che.utexas.edu> wrote:
>
>On a 486-DX2/66 with 8MB of RAM, cirrus logic 5426 local bus video,
>without sound enabled, I got only 4.7 FPS.
>I didn't notice any swapping at any time during the game, however.
On my 486DX/33MHz, 8MB RAM, Genoa 8500VLbus 1Mb card, no sound, I got 10.4
fps. Anyone else get this high an fps reading?
P.S. It did swap once during the game (took about 5-6 sec.)
==================================================================
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==================================================================
| My World Wide Web homepage -- http://www.grfn.org/~dust |
==================================================================
------------------------------
From: awang@plains.NoDak.edu (Dopey (Andy Wang))
Subject: seyon and rz/sz
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 03:12:59 GMT
i can't seem to get downloading to work with seyon..
sz/rz doesn't want to work.
when i run sz from the remote end it does seomthing like
print out the header for rz then it just dies.
and hanges there..
any clues why?
--
*******************************************************************************
* Life's Great Mystery: * Legalize Marijuana * awang@plains.nodak.edu *
* Do I really exist or am * Don't let the * awang@badlands.nodak.edu *
* I just a dreamer afraid * government fuck up * dopey@dsu1.dsu.nodak.edu *
* to wake up and live? * your rights. * andy@head.neurology.wisc.edu *
***************************** Dopey (Andy Wang) *******************************
------------------------------
From: perkel@nagra.etho.caltech.edu (David J. Perkel)
Subject: NFS performance
Date: 13 Sep 1994 18:29:07 GMT
Hello all,
I have looked at a number of potential sources for help, all to no avail,
so here I go with a question for the net experts...
What is the best way to measure and then to optimize NFS performance?
Some specifics:
Linux 1.1.50 on a not-too-busy subnet, mounting disks on another
Linux box (also running 1.1.50 and the latest networking stuff)
as well as on Suns. Mount options are:
rsize=8192,wsize=8192,async,hard,intr
The 2 Linux machines seem subjectively to have very slow NFS
performance (i.e. ls on a relatively small directory can take
5-10 secs). Iozone says about 40k bytes/sec for writing, 90k
for reading.
Tcpspray shows similar numbers among all machines, so I don't
suspect ethernet cards. Rather, it seems that NFS is the
culprit.
So, I'm asking what values people are getting for performance.
How do you test it? Can you offer tips for improving it?
Thanks in advance for your help.
--
David J. Perkel perkel@slice.etho.caltech.edu
Division of Biology, 216-76
California Institute of Technology
Pasadena, CA 91125
Tel: (818) 395-6816 FAX: (818) 449-0679
------------------------------
From: brian@xp.psych.nyu.edu (Brian Watts)
Subject: login USERID length problem
Date: 12 Sep 1994 23:36:22 GMT
I think there is a serious problem in connection with 'login'.
Login doesn't work correctly when the login ID is > 8
characters AND you telnet or type 'login' at a console
*after* having logged in.
It gives a 'login incorrect' response. This doesn't happen
when you login directly from the console.
I've had the same problem with kernels, 1.0.8, 1.1.35, and
1.1.45.
I'd be very happy if someone could shed light on this problem
because it is very embarrasing to tell people that they have
to restrict their login ID's to 8 characters (it smells of
MSDOS :=( ).
Thanx
------------------------------
From: trae@damops.wes.army.mil (Trae Bailey)
Subject: Re: 2.90 sound driver problem in 1.1.45
Date: 14 Sep 1994 04:01:49 GMT
>>>>> "Hannu" == Hannu Savolainen <hannu@voxware.pp.fi> writes:
> flipper@pentagon.io.com (Peter Sierant) writes:
>> I've been using the 1.1.19 kernel for several months without a
>> problem. Sound worked great for au files, mods, and cd audio, etc.
>> Last night I upgraded to 1.1.45/ 2.90 sound, and now if I cat
>> welcome.au > /dev/audio, It plays but gives a write io error, then
>> repeats part of the file, then quits. Sound card is a PAS16, machine
>> is
> This occurs when there is an IRQ conflict. Propably the IRQ for PAS16 is
> in use by some other device on your system.
> Hannu -- ----------------------------- Hannu Savolainen
> hannu@voxware.pp.fi "Don't use Windows since there is a door!"
I am having the same problem. I'm using PAS16, no SB, IRQ 7, DMA 3. When I
run Doom I get error messages telling me I have a conflict. The setup has
always worked fine under both DOS and Linux. I am not convinced this is the
problem.
-- Trae
------------------------------
From: cord@msheinz.psych.nat.tu-bs.de (Cord Hockemeyer)
Subject: Re: Two Hostnames: Possible?
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 09:15:59 GMT
Bill C. Riemers (bcr@k9.via.term.none) wrote:
| >>>>> "Peter" == Peter Suetterlin <ps@kis.uni-freiburg.de> writes:
| Peter> Hi World! Since a week, I have a SLIP-connection to the
| Peter> Internet. :) Until then, I used to have lupo as my
| Peter> hostname. Together with my SLIP account, I got an
| Peter> 'official' address (slip65.home.uni-freiburg.de) Now the
| Peter> problem is receiving mail: I tried to convince smail to
| Peter> accept both names, i.e. lupo locally and slip65 for
| Peter> external connections. But smail refuses until I completely
| Peter> change the hostname to slip65. But, as I dislike the new
| Peter> name (yes, I know, it's cosmetic....): Is it possible to
| Peter> have different names for a computer? How to setup smail
| Peter> (reading the NAG didn't give me the necessary clues) Thanks
| Peter> in advance,
| Sure you already have 2 names:
| localhost
| lupo
| If you want more, just list them in /etc/hosts.
I don't think it works so easily. You'd better change your
/usr/lib/smail/config-file (I don't know if you can do it with the
configure-script or if you must do it by hand):
more_hostnames=msheinz.psych.nat.tu-bs.de:mshilda.psych.nat.tu-bs.de
I have - for example - the line above in my config file to have one
single mail spool for two computers. Then the smail daemon recognises
both addresses as its own.
So long
Cord
--
Cord Hockemeyer, TU Braunschweig, Abt. Math. u. Sozialpsychologie
email: C.Hockemeyer@tu-bs.de / i3160503@dbstu1.bitnet
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