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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Sat, 24 Sep 94 23:13:17 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #817
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Linux-Misc Digest #817, Volume #2 Sat, 24 Sep 94 23:13:17 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: Doom and linux - brightness (Andrew Robert Ellsworth)
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Re: IP Addresses For Standalone LAN (H. Peter Anvin)
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Re: Yggdrasil Linux Plug and Play CD ver1.1 ? (Jeff Kesselman)
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Re: IP Addresses For Standalone LAN (David Fox)
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Re: Free Linux CD's (Marc Berkowitz)
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Re: Damn X-aware xterms!!! (Ernest Leuenberger)
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Sound Blaster Driver (chris)
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Re: How to use a host as a router - READ THIS (Jay Ashworth)
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Re: Emacs & latex for thesis (Beeblebrox)
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SRI/Prentice Hall Internet CD: missing source (Bradley Yearwood)
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Re: X-windows and Number 9 card (Ron Patterson)
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DOSEMU? Where to get it? (Bob Collie)
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Printing on Laserjets (was Re: Linux Flame Bait) (Pete Chown)
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Re: Linux on Pentium P90 PCI---which motherboard? (David S. Vickers)
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Re: AVI/QT programs? (Mike Castle)
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Re: Copyright and licensing - a plea to software authors ("Theodore Ts'o")
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Re: Linux on Pentium P90 PCI---which motherboard? (Eric J. Bohm)
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Re: Where is Mosaic for Term? (Jan Wissing)
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----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: are1@roach.cec.wustl.edu (Andrew Robert Ellsworth)
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Subject: Re: Doom and linux - brightness
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Date: 20 Sep 1994 11:57:07 -0500
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>at -2 on the pixel enhance: well a bit slow. But The window of the game is
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>darker than it should be. The clip that plays when you exec Doom and before
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>you make your game selection is fine, but when I actually start playing, the
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>screen is darker than it should be. I only have a CLGD5424 onmboard accel
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In DOOM, press F11. This cycles through 4 levels of gamma correction, and will
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almost certainly solve your problem.
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Andy Ellsworth
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are1@cec.wustl.edu
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(INSERT CREATIVE FOOTER HERE)
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------------------------------
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From: hpa@ahab.eecs.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
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Subject: Re: IP Addresses For Standalone LAN
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Reply-To: hpa@nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
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Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 22:09:35 GMT
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Followup to: <1994Sep24.165911.4051@tsunami.demon.co.uk>
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By author: ben@tsunami.demon.co.uk (Benjamin John Walter)
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In newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc
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>
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> : Are there IP addresses set aside for standalone LANs? Where are they
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> : documented?
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>
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> Okay, I have two suggestions... In ``TCP/IP Network Administration''
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> by ORA, it says that the address with a first byte "Greater than 223,
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> indicates the address is reserved. We can ignore these reserved
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> addresses". You shouldn't find people using those addresses on the
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> Internet, so I guess you could use address then 224.0.0.x for your own
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> LAN.
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>
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BAD idea. These addresses are used for multicasting ONLY. It will
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not work properly.
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Use class A network # 10, or class C network # 192.0.2. Both are
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reserved for local use.
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/hpa
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--
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INTERNET: hpa@nwu.edu --- Allah'u'abha ---
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IBM MAIL: I0050052 at IBMMAIL HAM RADIO: N9ITP or SM4TKN
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FIDONET: 1:115/511 or 1:115/512 STORMNET: 181:294/1 or 181:294/101
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Laughter is the best medicine -- Quayle in '94.
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------------------------------
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From: jeffpk@netcom.com (Jeff Kesselman)
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Subject: Re: Yggdrasil Linux Plug and Play CD ver1.1 ?
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Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 22:02:20 GMT
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In article <eratCwnGos.5wt@netcom.com>, Erik Ratcliffe <erat@netcom.com> wrote:
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>Guy Bobenrieth (guy@lmias6.u-strasbg.fr) wrote:
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>: I'm looking for informations about this CD ans its quality
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>: Thanks for sending them to me : contains, installation, ...
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>
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> I bought the Summer 1994 edition of "Plug-and-Play" and used it for
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>a few months (I have since bought a 420 meg hard drive and don't need the CD
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>stuff anymore). I think it's an alright setup, but it's slow (at least on
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>my double speed CDROM drive) and it can't seem to install packages from the
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>control panel in X-Windows like it says it can. I don't know why this is; I
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>just never had any luck making it work.
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I did instalaltion from the X panel jsut fine under Summer 1994. did you
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log in as root?
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>
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> Also, the hard drive installation options are quite limited. The
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>Summer 1994 edition offered three options:
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This is outdated information. The fall94 release (just announced in the
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.announce section) has a more SCO type install where it does a base
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installation (10 meg) automaticly and then lets you select individual
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'packages'. I can't talk abotu the X-based installer in Fall94 because
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they now include a command-line basesd install_package command that I
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MUCH prefer. (A good deal faster and easier to use on my limietd hardare.)
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> > The programs that are included on this CD pretty much cover
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>everything you'd need for a solid Linux system: X-Windows (along with a slew
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>of graphic editors, games, graphic file viewers, multimedia mail, on and
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>on), emacs, TeX, Ghostscript, gcc, communication software (minicom, xc,
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>rz/sz, seyon, kermit), mail readers (elm, pine, mail, smail/rmail),
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>newsreaders (tin, nn), UUCP stuff, TCP/IP networking stuff, ftp, gopher,
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>yadda yadda yadda... You name it, it's there. If only there were options
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>to install by package instead of the above CD dependencies... The
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>distribution could use a bit of work.
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Well, your prayers have already been answered (see above.)
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>
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> But for systems that only have about 40 megs to dedicate to Linux,
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>the Plug-and-Play CD is a fairly good option. It needs some tweaking, but
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>it gives you access to programs that you would otherwise not have access to
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>without lots of hard drive space. Hell, it's only about $25...
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>
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Well, $34.95 list, really.
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I've been very pleased with it. Even though i haven't installed a lot of
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stuff, having it their on CD-ROM for when I DO need it is very handy.
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The Fall94 also has a trick that at the moment I believe is special to
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yygdrasil, though they've sent it to Linus for general inclusion. Thsi
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is the ability to 'thunk' calls to the 16bit MS_DOS CD-ROM and hard disk
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interface. This makes it possible to use devies other then those
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supported directly by drivers. (Don't ask me about performance as I
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haven't used it...)
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Jeff kesselman
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------------------------------
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From: fox@graphics.cs.nyu.edu (David Fox)
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Subject: Re: IP Addresses For Standalone LAN
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Date: 24 Sep 1994 21:06:47 GMT
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In article <dangitCwMB7o.Gpv@netcom.com> dangit@netcom.com (Lam Dang) writes:
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] Are there IP addresses set aside for standalone LANs? Where are they
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] documented?
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See the question "I want to build my own standalone network, what
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addresses to I use?" in the NET-2-HOWTO.
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--
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David Fox xoF divaD
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NYU Media Research Lab baL hcraeseR aideM UYN
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------------------------------
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From: mb@tfs.com (Marc Berkowitz)
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Subject: Re: Free Linux CD's
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Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 00:31:57 GMT
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Can you please post your street address?
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--
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Marc Berkowitz mb@tfs.com 1-510-645-3433
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TRW Financial Systems, Inc. 300 Lakeside Dr, Oakland, Cal 94612-3540
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------------------------------
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From: ernestl@bnr.ca (Ernest Leuenberger)
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Subject: Re: Damn X-aware xterms!!!
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Date: 23 Sep 1994 11:52:03 GMT
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Reply-To: ernestl@bnr.ca
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In article <35suhk$13go@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu>, dlj0@Lehigh.EDU (DAVID L. JOHNSON) writes:
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|> In article <CwJJFJ.Hx9@nntpa.cb.att.com>, slg@slgsun.cb.att.com (Sean Gilley) writes:
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|> >In article <baba.780217027@ph-meter>,
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|> >Baba Buehler <baba@beckman.uiuc.edu> wrote:
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|> >>ramos@engr.latech.edu (Alex Ramos) writes:
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|> [snip]
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|>
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|> >Nope. I've noticed this myself. If you have two Xterm windows up, and
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|> >highlight text in the first, then *click* on the second, you no longer
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|> >have text selected for cut and paste.
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|> >
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|> >Anyone know how to fix this?
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|> >
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|> Huh? Are you sure it's not still in the buffer? Why do you click on the other
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|> term -- and with which button? It may not still be highlighted, if say you
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|> type in an xterm, but you can still paste. At least I can.
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I have the same problem and I also have it at work on my Sparc. I think it's
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related to the window manager (I run olvwm on both systems). As for why you
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click on the other window... you may want to raise it before you do the paste.
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On a 14" monitor it's usual that you don't see all of the two windows at once.
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Ernest.
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|>
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|> >Sean.
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|> >
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|> >---
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|> >Sean L. Gilley The Information Super Highway is
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|> >sean.l.gilley@att.com really just a rough gravel road with
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|> >614 860 9053 (h), 614 860 5743 (w) wonderful roadsigns.
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|>
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|> --
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|>
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|> David L. Johnson dlj0@lehigh.edu or
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|> Department of Mathematics dlj0@chern.math.lehigh.edu
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|> Lehigh University
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|> 14 E. Packer Avenue (610) 758-3759
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|> Bethlehem, PA 18015-3174 (610) 828-3708
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------------------------------
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From: michaels@cs.wmich.edu (chris)
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Subject: Sound Blaster Driver
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Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 12:07:27 GMT
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Hiya,
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A quick question, I have a creative labs Sound Blaster Pro 16 w/
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SCSI II adapter along with a Sony 541 CD-ROM. I can't get the
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sbpcd driver to work with my kernel, any help would be appreciated...
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Chris
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email: michaels@cs.wmich.edu
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------------------------------
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From: jra@zeus.IntNet.net (Jay Ashworth)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.admin
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Subject: Re: How to use a host as a router - READ THIS
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Date: 22 Sep 1994 21:28:49 -0400
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ianm@qualcomm.com (Ian McCloghrie) writes:
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>This is common practice (and, in fact, required by many TCP/IP protocl
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>stacks). Whether or not it is "correct" is unclear. It's quite
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>possible to implement routing using the same IP address on two
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>interfaces, if one of them is a point-to-point link (namely,
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>a slip line). The idea of every physical network having its own
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>IP network is ideologically pure. Ideological purity, while clean
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>and elegant, is often discarded in favour of optimizations. Given
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>the current state of the IP address space, it could easily be argued
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>that wasting an entire network on a 2-host point-to-point slip line
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>is incorrect behaviour :)
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True. But you'll note I didn't say anything about where those 2 addresses
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need to reside. Common sense would seem to suggest putting your
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"router's" PPP port on your host's net, and it's ether on your own, and in
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fact, this works. At worst, external incoming connections will get aimed
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at your ether IP number, but you don'e lost a _whole_ there...
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Cheers,
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-- jra
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--
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Jay R. Ashworth Ashworth
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Designer High Technology Systems Consulting & Associates
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ka1fjx/4
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jra@baylink.com Linux: The Choice of a GNU Generation +1 813 790 7592
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------------------------------
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From: M.S.Ashton@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Beeblebrox)
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Subject: Re: Emacs & latex for thesis
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Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 22:25:55 GMT
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krasel@alf.biochem.mpg.de (Cornelius Krasel) writes:
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>: [quoting somebody else]
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>: The real question is: Why would you want to write a THESIS on emax and
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>: latex?
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>: [end of quote]
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>Easy: because I write my thesis faster with emacs and LaTeX than with MS-Word
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>or whatever you may think of.
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Quite right too. I can't think of anything _better_ suited to this task than
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LaTeX.
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---
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M.S.Ashton@dcs.warwick.ac.uk M.S.Ashton@csv.warwick.ac.uk
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"I follow your steps in snow, the traces disappear.
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We know what we've lost when it's gone, I'm wishing you were here."
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------------------------------
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From: bny@crl.com (Bradley Yearwood)
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
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Subject: SRI/Prentice Hall Internet CD: missing source
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Date: 24 Sep 1994 18:41:26 -0700
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I recently purchased a copy of the book and CD-ROM "Internet CD", by
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Vivian Neou at SRI International, published by Prentice Hall. On the
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CD is a Slackware Linux distribution. Source code for the Linux kernel
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appears to be included, but source code for most of the GNU utilities
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(which are provided in executable form) is absent. Though the book contains
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several order forms in the back for various pieces of software, I see
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nowhere in the book an acknowledgement of FSF copyright, nor any offer to
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provide source code for the GNU material. Some COPYING files are embedded
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within gzip'd tar files, but I see nothing that makes an obvious and specific
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offer to provide source code.
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Forgive me if this has already been brought up.
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Brad Yearwood bny@crl.com
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Rohnert Park, CA
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------------------------------
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From: patt9451@uidaho.edu (Ron Patterson)
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Subject: Re: X-windows and Number 9 card
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Date: 23 Sep 1994 01:23:23 GMT
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>Is anyone running
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>X-Windows, Linux and a #9 GXE card (Ours is a GXE 64 pro). I would like
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I am using a #9 GXE Pro (PCI) on a Pentium 90 also. I bought a driver from
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X Inside ( e-mail info@Xinside.com) called Accelerated X and I am very happy
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with it. I wanted the fastest X driver I could find however, and was willing to
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pay for it. The X server and configuration utilities cost about $200. It is a very
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high preformance driver tuned to the video card and is a joy to work with. The
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product supports resolutions from 640x480 up to 1600x1200 and colors from
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16-16 million (depending on VRAM ). Virtual Desktops are also supported. I
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realize that at $200 it will not be for everyone though.
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===================================================================================================
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Ron Patterson
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Dept. of Soil Science
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University of Idaho
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patt9451@uidaho.edu
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rpatterson@marvin.ag.uidaho.edu
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------------------------------
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From: collieb@iia.org (Bob Collie)
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Subject: DOSEMU? Where to get it?
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Date: 24 Sep 1994 23:02:31 GMT
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Hello!
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I have been reading about DOSEMU -- and I would like to find it. Where
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is the best place? (please specify site and directory)
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I have searched my HDD and have not found it.
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Bob Collie
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collieb@iia.org
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------------------------------
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From: pc@dale.dircon.co.uk (Pete Chown)
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Subject: Printing on Laserjets (was Re: Linux Flame Bait)
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Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 21:20:45 GMT
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In article <35vram$18j1@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> tesla@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Jon Nash) writes:
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>I still use DOS/Windoze on a daily basis, just because I can't get Linux to
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>print on my HP Laserjet III.
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I've set up ghostscript to drive my Laserjet 4L. So to print from
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LaTeX, I use the following Makefile to generate Postscript:
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=============================
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%.dvi: %.tex
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latex $<
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%.ps: %.dvi
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dvips -D 300 -f -q -t a4 < $< > $*.ps
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%.pv: FORCE
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@make $*.ps
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ghostview $*.ps
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FORCE:
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=============================
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This generates Postscript for A4 paper - I guess you will want
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something different in America.
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Then I print the Postscript by saying:
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lpr -Pps <filename>
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This Postscript is then converted to Laserjet format by lpd. The
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following /etc/printcap file causes files submitted to the printer
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'ps' to be removed from the queue, converted to HP format and
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resubmitted to the printer 'lj'.
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=============================
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# Entry for raw device ljet4.raw
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lj|ljet|ljet4.raw|HP LaserJet 4L:\
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:lp=/dev/lp1:\
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:sd=/var/spool/ljet4/raw:\
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:tf=/etc/printtext:\
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:mx#0:sf:sh:rs:
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# Entry for device ljet4 (output to ljet4.raw)
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ps|postscript|Ghostscript device ljet4:\
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:lp=/dev/null:\
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:sd=/var/spool/ljet4:\
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:lf=/var/spool/ljet4/logfile:\
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:af=/var/spool/ljet4/acct:\
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:if=/etc/printps:\
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:df=/etc/printdvi:\
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:mx#0:sf:sh:rs:
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=============================
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Finally, you need two files, /etc/printps:
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=============================
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#!/bin/sh
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gs -q -sDEVICE=ljet4 -r300x300 -dNOPAUSE -sOutputFile=- -sPAPERSIZE=a4 - | lpr -Plj
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=============================
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and /etc/printdvi. This is used if you say lpr -d -Pps <filename>,
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but this is not normally useful because then your virtual fonts will
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not come out.
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=============================
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#!/bin/sh
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dvips -D 300 -f -q -t a4 | gs -q -sDEVICE=ljet4 -r300x300 -dNOPAUSE -sOutputFile=- -sPAPERSIZE=a4 - | lpr -Plj
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=============================
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Easy isn't it? :-)
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(It took me ages to get this to work, BTW.)
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------------------------------
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From: vickersd@montana.et.byu.edu (David S. Vickers)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
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Subject: Re: Linux on Pentium P90 PCI---which motherboard?
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Date: 25 Sep 1994 01:44:15 GMT
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pratt@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU (Vaughan R. Pratt) writes:
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>If Linux runs on your Pentium P90 PCI, or you know of a working such,
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>I'd appreciate knowing what motherboard did the trick.
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>--
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>Vaughan Pratt http://boole.stanford.edu/boole.html
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I recently built a system for someone with an Intel Plato P54C
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motherboard which used the Neptune chipset. I used an NCR SCSI
|
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controler with a patched kernel (version 1.1.19). The first
|
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motherboard I got had a flakey cache, and upgrading the BIOS didn't
|
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help. I replaced the motherboard, and everything has worked
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flawlessly since.
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|
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-David Vickers
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|
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|
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------------------------------
|
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|
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From: mcastle@umr.edu (Mike Castle)
|
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Subject: Re: AVI/QT programs?
|
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Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 18:51:04 GMT
|
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|
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In article <35qag4$cvk@flood.xnet.com>, Bob <bob@xnet.com> wrote:
|
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>i read somewhere that there are AVI and Quicktime viewers for Xwindows. have
|
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>any of them been ported to XFree? if so, where are they? if not, does anyone
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>know where any of the non-ported programs are located?
|
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|
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|
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The program is xanim. I've seen mention of someone doing a port
|
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with sound support and everything (was mostly doing work on the
|
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sound, animation works fine I believe). I suppose checking the
|
||||
usual places (ie, sunsite.unc.edu and tsx-11.mit.edu) should turn
|
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something up.
|
||||
|
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If not, check on ftp.x.org. Don't remember the exact dir, but
|
||||
it's fairly obvious.
|
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|
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mrc
|
||||
--
|
||||
Mike Castle .-=NEXUS=-. Life is like a clock: You can work constantly
|
||||
mcastle@cs.umr.edu and be right all the time, or not work at all
|
||||
mcastle@umr.edu and be right at least twice a day. -- mrc
|
||||
We are all of us living in the shadow of Manhattan. -- Watchmen
|
||||
|
||||
------------------------------
|
||||
|
||||
From: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@MIT.EDU>
|
||||
Subject: Re: Copyright and licensing - a plea to software authors
|
||||
Date: 24 Sep 1994 22:53:02 -0400
|
||||
Reply-To: tytso@MIT.EDU
|
||||
|
||||
From: nelson@crynwr.crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
|
||||
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
|
||||
Date: 16 Sep 1994 15:41:31 GMT
|
||||
|
||||
I don't think you understand Ted. At least, that is all I can assume
|
||||
from your paragraph above. There *is* a difference. If someone
|
||||
invents an interface between two packages, for example taking a piece
|
||||
of GPL'ed code and making it into a subroutine package, then letting
|
||||
the user link that code into a program, THAT violates the GPL.
|
||||
|
||||
The whole issue, to me, depends on whether or not the interface is
|
||||
created solely to work around the GPL, or if it was created for other
|
||||
purposes. If this distinction is not made, if, say, the GPL must
|
||||
apply to any code that dynamically links into GPL'ed code, then
|
||||
GPL'ing code becomes much less attractive. For example, my GPL'ed packet
|
||||
drivers dynamically link into the MS-DOS kernel. Obviously the GPL
|
||||
cannot be made to apply to MS-DOS, so I would not be able to use the
|
||||
GPL on my code.
|
||||
|
||||
If, on the other hand, anyone may create a dynamic link to a GPL
|
||||
package, voiding the GPL, even if the dynamic link was ONLY created to
|
||||
avoid the GPL, then the GPL has little force, and one may as well put
|
||||
code into the public domain.
|
||||
|
||||
This is precisely the hypocrisy that I'm complaining about. It seems to
|
||||
me that you (and the FSF) want to have it both ways. Well, I'm sorry,
|
||||
but if PGP and gmp are considered "one program", then your drivers and
|
||||
MS-DOS must also be considered "one program". You can't have it both
|
||||
ways.
|
||||
|
||||
It seems to me that people are making a distinction as a convenient way
|
||||
to control the outcome of how they want things to come out. If they
|
||||
want it to be allowed, then "obviously" the GPL cannot be made to apply
|
||||
to MS-DOS. But if they don't, then "obviously" the GPL must apply.
|
||||
Sorry, but the legal system doesn't work that way.
|
||||
|
||||
Another example --- suppose I write a program that uses dbm; it can
|
||||
potentially be linked against gdbm. Hence, by your reasoning, my
|
||||
program must fall under the GPL! But perhaps the fact that there is a
|
||||
non-GPL library is enough to make it O.K. Alright, I'll write a slow,
|
||||
stub library which implements the gmp interface. Then PGP must be OK!
|
||||
A stub library isn't enough? Alright, I'll write a library which
|
||||
implements the gmp interface but calls a slower package as its back-end.
|
||||
Now is that OK? I'm sure the FSF would find some reason why that
|
||||
wouldn't be OK, since they dislike PGP so much.
|
||||
|
||||
The point at which something becomes OK by the FSF's "definition" is
|
||||
purely arbitrary, which is what I dislike. There is an entirely
|
||||
separate question which is whether or not the FSF interpretation would
|
||||
possibly even hold water in a court of law, or whether the FSF would be
|
||||
laughed out of court. Short of a test case actually coming before a
|
||||
court, we won't know for certain the answer to this.
|
||||
|
||||
But even if the FSF interpretation is legally airtight, the fact that it
|
||||
is arbitrary and depends on what is situationally convenient disturbs
|
||||
me. Fortunately, as long as you and I, the authors, own the copyright
|
||||
on the code, and not the FSF, this trumps the entire issue. This is why
|
||||
I suggest that authors think twice before donating the ownership of
|
||||
their code to the FSF.
|
||||
|
||||
- Ted
|
||||
|
||||
|
||||
------------------------------
|
||||
|
||||
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
|
||||
From: bohm@cs.buffalo.edu (Eric J. Bohm)
|
||||
Subject: Re: Linux on Pentium P90 PCI---which motherboard?
|
||||
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 09:13:06 GMT
|
||||
|
||||
In article <35vghp$8ko@Times.Stanford.EDU>,
|
||||
Vaughan R. Pratt <pratt@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
|
||||
>If Linux runs on your Pentium P90 PCI, or you know of a working such,
|
||||
>I'd appreciate knowing what motherboard did the trick.
|
||||
>--
|
||||
>Vaughan Pratt http://boole.stanford.edu/boole.html
|
||||
|
||||
Zenon Z-Optimus II
|
||||
============================================================================
|
||||
P90 PCI ISA W/256K Cache
|
||||
SQ545 Motherboard: 2 ISA/VESA, 2 ISA closts, one XT/PCI shared slot
|
||||
and two PCI slots, AT I/O (2S,1P) Built-in 16550
|
||||
72 Pin parity or non-parity memory 128 MB max
|
||||
|
||||
|
||||
Using kernel 1.1.50 with patches for the NCR53c810 and Mach64 stuff. Works
|
||||
great. No tricks necessary.
|
||||
|
||||
|
||||
|
||||
------------------------------
|
||||
|
||||
From: j.wissing@key.gun.de (Jan Wissing)
|
||||
Subject: Re: Where is Mosaic for Term?
|
||||
Date: 24 Sep 1994 22:28:00 +0200
|
||||
|
||||
In article <1994Sep23.080051.230@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>,
|
||||
Travis L. Cobbs <tcobbs@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> wrote:
|
||||
|
||||
t> references to people using Mosaic for Term, but I haven't seen anyone say
|
||||
t> where it can be found. Where is it locate? (Preferably via FTP.)
|
||||
|
||||
Just take a look on famous sunsite.unc.edu. It's somewhere down the Linux/
|
||||
System/Network/Infosystems tree. Mosaic-2.4-term.tar.gz what's or ever.
|
||||
|
||||
|
||||
Bis dann
|
||||
Jan
|
||||
--
|
||||
And now that we all feel better let's do what we like.
|
||||
|
||||
------------------------------
|
||||
|
||||
|
||||
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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