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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Mon, 3 Oct 94 18:13:28 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #873
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Linux-Misc Digest #873, Volume #2 Mon, 3 Oct 94 18:13:28 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: NEWBIE!: How do i Print from GS (not over LPR!) (John Palaima)
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Re: PPP chat script (Piotr Kapiszewski)
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Is there any way to run Windows software. (C.W. Southern)
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Help with NFS! (Eric Stajda)
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Help! Seyon hangs when started (Konstantin Kostov)
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Re: Don't use Linux or it's to academic! (John Palaima)
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Re: Linux mentioned in PC Week (John Palaima)
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Email for InfoMagic ??? (andre jean francois)
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Re: Nailed down to 386bsd or linux, now which one? (Gerry Simmons Jr.)
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Re: PLS recommend a G++ debugger ( with or without X ) (Jeff Kesselman)
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Re: 56.6 Kb simulated with 2 28.8Kb modems. Is it possible? (Rob Janssen)
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general protection failure (Bill Heiser)
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Where is infomagic? (FORSEILLES STEPHAN)
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Re: Announce: inetd for term (ADAM P JENKINS)
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Re: Yggdrasil Linux Plug and Play CD ver1.1 ? (Paul Bash)
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----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: jolt@gnu.ai.mit.edu (John Palaima)
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Subject: Re: NEWBIE!: How do i Print from GS (not over LPR!)
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Date: 3 Oct 1994 18:09:53 GMT
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>: I have a PostScript File that's over 1.6 Megs great, and if i
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>: [snip]
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>
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>Use "lpr -s filename", which should not copy the file physically
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>to the spool directory but make a link to it instead. Of course you
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>must NOT modify the file while it is printed.
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another option (if you have the disk space available) is to add "mx#0"
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to your /etc/printcap -- "man printcap" sez that mx specifies the maximum
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size file that can be printed (or something similar :) and that a value of
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0 means no limit. This just went by in col.h (I think :) a while back...
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--
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Richard Cooley Extraordinaire "Yeah. Arrgh."
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rcooley96@dgl.ssc.mass.edu
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ssa95isa29@mecn.mass.edu My opinions, not anyone elses.
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rcooley@nyx.cs.du.edu
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------------------------------
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From: kapis-p@cs.Buffalo.EDU (Piotr Kapiszewski)
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Subject: Re: PPP chat script
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Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 00:38:54 GMT
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Ahmad S. Alrasheedan (asr@kpc01.q8petroleum.com.kw) wrote:
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: Please, please, please....I need a chat script for PPP login.
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: I am open for any contribution :-))
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You can try getting stuff via anonymous ftp from:
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darksun.cs.buffalo.edu [128.205.107.24]
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/pub/ppp
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That machine is running on a ppp link so be patient.
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-Kapi
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: Thanx
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--
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Kapi, 542 Baldy Hall, 645-2448
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------------------------------
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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From: cws9669@ultb.isc.rit.edu (C.W. Southern)
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Subject: Is there any way to run Windows software.
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Reply-To: cws9669@ultb.rit.edu ()
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Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 00:17:30 GMT
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I am looking for a way to run windows software on my Liunx Box. I have
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checked out WINE but it won't cut it right now. Is there a version of
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SoftPC that will run under Linux. I am willing to pay for this if there
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is.
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thanks.
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--
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Chris Southern RIT Computer Science
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E-mail: cws9669@ultb.rit.edu WWW: http://ultb.rit.edu/~cws9669
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------------------------------
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From: stajdae@rh.wl.com (Eric Stajda)
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Subject: Help with NFS!
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Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 14:26:57 UNDEFINED
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Hello,
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We are trying to mount a file system from our HP9000 to our Linux box....
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In the FSTAB we have the following command:
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hp.el.com:\users\smith \tempmount nfs timeo=14,intr
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In the rc.inet2 we have:
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mount -a -t nfs
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We receive the following error on bootup:
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mount clntudp_create: RPC: program not registered
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Could anyone help with hints on how to solve this problem?
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Please post reply.
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Thanks,
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Eric
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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From: kostov@kff1.uchicago.edu (Konstantin Kostov)
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Subject: Help! Seyon hangs when started
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Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 00:58:54 GMT
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Dear Netters,
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I have a problem starting Seyon. The modem doesn't respond to anything I
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do. /dev/modem was originally linked to /dev/cua3, which produced a
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"modem read error". After relinking /dev/modem to other devices the
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best result I got was with /dev/ttyS1 which doesn't give any errors,
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but nothing happens when I try to dial, or type anything in the
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term emulator window. I've tried all plausible devices in /dev
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with no success. The modem is hooked to com4, and I have used all
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the settings that work with DOS in the starup file.
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Any suggestions?
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Thanks in advance
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Konstantin
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------------------------------
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From: jolt@gnu.ai.mit.edu (John Palaima)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
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Subject: Re: Don't use Linux or it's to academic!
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Date: 3 Oct 1994 18:21:14 GMT
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In article <FAT.94Sep28211545@indy>,
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Irtegov Dmitry Valentinovich <fat@cnit.nsk.su> wrote:
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>`Fatal Error: Cannot enter Windows, try Doors instead'
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This is beautiful...guess it's time to update my .sig, if you don't mind?
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please? please? :) :)
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--
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Richard Cooley Extraordinaire "Yeah. Arrgh."
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rcooley96@dgl.ssc.mass.edu
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ssa95isa29@mecn.mass.edu My opinions, not anyone elses.
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rcooley@nyx.cs.du.edu
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------------------------------
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From: jolt@gnu.ai.mit.edu (John Palaima)
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Subject: Re: Linux mentioned in PC Week
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Date: 3 Oct 1994 18:41:20 GMT
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In article <1994Oct1.211812.27030@abo.fi>,
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Mats 'MaDsen' Wikholm <mwikholm@at8.abo.fi> wrote:
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>
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>NT stands for New Technology, hah, what's new about 32-bti operating
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>systems? ...
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for Micro$oft, multitasking etc. *is* new technology! Or did you mean in
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absolute terms? :)
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> I'm not really a big fan of MicroSloth, if you didn't guess
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me neither. But then, who is? :)
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>and this was just my $.01 worth :)
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me too.
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> . . Linux, the way to get rid of boot viruses
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oooh, more .sig fodder :)
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--
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Richard Cooley Extraordinaire "Yeah. Arrgh."
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rcooley96@dgl.ssc.mass.edu
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ssa95isa29@mecn.mass.edu My opinions, not anyone elses.
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rcooley@nyx.cs.du.edu
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------------------------------
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From: andre@ie2_22.ie2.u-psud.fr (andre jean francois)
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Subject: Email for InfoMagic ???
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Date: 3 Oct 1994 15:31:03 GMT
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I did not receve my august release of LINUX, and when I try
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to send then an Email I can't join then.
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What's wrong ???
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Does anyone have there adress ???
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Thank you from a desesperate Guy .
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JEF.
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------------------------------
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From: simmons@darykon.wa.com (Gerry Simmons Jr.)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
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Subject: Re: Nailed down to 386bsd or linux, now which one?
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Date: 3 Oct 1994 14:24:39 GMT
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Po-Han Lin (plin@girtab.usc.edu) wrote:
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: Ok, I didn't know QNX costs major money. So I am considering
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: either 386bsd or linux. One person said I should get linux because
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: 386bsd is monolithic (controlled I guess), while linux is non-monolithic.
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: Now the question is, which os better? Better as in...
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: 1) least bugs, and stable IMPORTANT!
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: 2) more software available that runs on it
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: 3) faster
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: 4) more compliance to POSIX (I think standards are good, or am I wrong)
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: 5) more people using it.
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: 6) more support for third-party hardware (VLB, EISA, modems, etc) IMPORTANT!
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: 7) platform for programming.
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: I hope someone can seriously asnwer these questions. Note that Im not
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: trying to start a flame. I appropriately crossposted only to the
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: relevant newsgroups that discuss these two operating systems. I
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: don't want to waste time downloading 50 or so megabytes and find out
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: that the other OS is better. Has anyone actually used both systems?
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: --
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Well, I'll just relate some of my experiences to you. I'm currently running
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NetBSD. HAve been since Feb '94. In Apr '94 I bought an adaptec 2842 VLB SCSI
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board. I also have an adaptec 1542 board. The reason I bought the 2842 was because
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I have 32 Meg in my system and with the ISA 1542 I could only have 16Meg or
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using a SCSI device crashed my system. I bought this under my own premis that
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if the 1542 was supported than the newer, faster VLB board of course would be
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supported. Here's where it started.
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I started perusing these groups to get any info on a 2842. First thing I'm told
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is that Adaptec are being butts, not letting any information go, and insisting
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that anyone writing such a driver needed to sign an NDA (non-disclosure agreement,)
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and no source was to be provided.
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Well I called Adaptec. I'm a hardware engineer and have had good dealings with
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Adaptec in the past. Well I did get kind of a "butt" response from a person in
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Tech. Support, but this isn't the first time. So I pressed him on the issue, and
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he suggested I talk to their Tech. Publ. Hotline or something. Well, to make a
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long story short, I have Tech. Ref. Manuals on the 274x and 284x as well as on the
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AIC-7770 RISC processor on the board.
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During this time I heard that someone in the Linux camp was developing the driver.
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Yea! The person who got me up and running on NEtBSD said it was possible we could
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port the driver to NetBSD. Someone else tried to convince me to run Linux. Well
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trying to be an open minded person, I ordered the InfoMagic Linux CD. WOW! This
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CD had XFree86 source and binaries, Sunsite.unc.edu and more archives, 4 distributions
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of Linux, GNU archives, even a preliminary version of WINE (Windows Emulator.)
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I thought well there must be a CD like this for NetBSD. The nearest I've found
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is TransAmeritech, which is still predominantly a Linux CD, but they also carry
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a NetBSD distribuition. Mind you I don't know what version.
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Well the guy working on the Linux driver posted something in the USENET about
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having a pre-alpha version at rev. 5 on an ftp-site. I promptly grabbed it and
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took a look. Now I've never coded anything for UNIX before, but have wriiten a
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few drivers for :-( DOS. I posted a note just 2 days ago asking for info on
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porting this driver to NetBSD. Some nice gentleman E-mailed me saying it was
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impossible since LINUX was developed under GPL, which I later deduced was the
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GNU Public License. He said none of this Linux person's code could be used. Now
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excuse me, but this seems in direct confrontation with the excuse I heard 2 months
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ago about how Adaptec insisted to source code be provided, where GPL insists that
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source code be provided.
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Needless to say, I'm looking at the real possibility, much as I don't want to,
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of switching to Linux. :-( I happen to like NetBSD a great deal.
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Gerry Simmons
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simmons@darykon.wa.com
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------------------------------
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From: jeffpk@netcom.com (Jeff Kesselman)
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Subject: Re: PLS recommend a G++ debugger ( with or without X )
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Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 00:46:47 GMT
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In article <36ndng$4cn@sand.cis.ufl.edu>,
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Daniel Damon Roscigno <ddr@beach.cis.ufl.edu> wrote:
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>I am a new C++ programmer and am looking for a debugger for Linux
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>I am currently running Slackware 1.1 with kernel .99pl14
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>I will be upgrading to a later version when I get my new CD
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>next week or so. X is not important, I just would like to be
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>able to step through code and set a few breakpoints.
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>
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>Thanks!
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>Dan.
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If you are using gnu c/c++, then yous shoudl already have gdb, the gnu
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debugger. If not, grab a copy from one oft he zillion gnu sites...
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------------------------------
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From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen)
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Subject: Re: 56.6 Kb simulated with 2 28.8Kb modems. Is it possible?
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Reply-To: pe1chl@rabo.nl
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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 20:34:57 GMT
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In <36dajc$df0@ndlc.occ.uky.edu> bealar@ndlc.occ.uky.edu (Andy Beal) writes:
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>matt kracht (kracht42@matrix.newpaltz.edu) wrote:
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>: Juana Moreno (madrid@gandalf.rutgers.edu) wrote:
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>: : I just had this idea. There must be a way to simulate a 56.6 Kb connection
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>: : without the need unconventional equipment (from the home user point of view,
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>: : I mean). May be with just 2 28.8 modems connected to 2 regular phone lines and
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>: : some smart low level packet routing ( choosing for a packet the least busy
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>: : line) it has to be possible.
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>How do you plan to split (and rejoin) the signals?
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That is a task which IP (and TCP) routinely performs...
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> What happens if one
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>modem gets a fuzzy line?
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Its queue will get longer because it cannot get data moved, and the
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other modem will take more of the load.
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> That would cause it to hang or fall back to a
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>lower speed, what happens then?
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Same thing.
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Rob
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--
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=========================================================================
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| Rob Janssen | AMPRnet: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org |
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| e-mail: pe1chl@rabo.nl | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8UTR.#UTR.NLD.EU |
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=========================================================================
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------------------------------
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From: bill@bhhome.ci.net (Bill Heiser)
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Subject: general protection failure
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Date: 1 Oct 1994 23:07:37 GMT
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I am having a stability problem with LINUX kernel 1.1.51. I have had
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similar symptoms with 1.1.4X kernels. Typically the system will run
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normally for one to four days, then processes start hanging in a "D"
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state and when new commands are invoked they die with "segmentation fault".
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The syslog errors look like this:
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Sep 30 19:32:14 bhhome kernel: general protection: 0000
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Sep 30 19:32:14 bhhome kernel: EIP: 0010:00155a84
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Sep 30 19:32:14 bhhome kernel: EFLAGS: 00010287
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Sep 30 19:32:14 bhhome kernel: eax: 7f840000 ebx: fffa8003 ecx: 7f83f000 edx: 00001e09
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Sep 30 19:32:14 bhhome kernel: esi: 0000000b edi: 01e58580 ebp: 00000000 esp: 01a23f30
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Sep 30 19:32:14 bhhome kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 002b gs: 002b ss: 0018
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Sep 30 19:32:14 bhhome kernel: Process top (pid: 17329, process nr: 33, stackpage=01a23000)
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Sep 30 19:32:14 bhhome kernel: Stack: 0183b0e4 00000fff 0183b0e4 01126000 00000160
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Sep 30 19:32:14 bhhome kernel: Code: 83 39 00 74 65 ff 44 24 2c f6 01 01 74 5c ff 44 24 28 85 db
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Sep 30 19:32:30 bhhome kernel: general protection: 0000
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Sep 30 19:32:30 bhhome kernel: EIP: 0010:00155a84
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Sep 30 19:32:30 bhhome kernel: EFLAGS: 00010287
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Sep 30 19:32:30 bhhome kernel: eax: 7f840000 ebx: fffa8003 ecx: 7f83f000 edx: 00001e09
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Sep 30 19:32:30 bhhome kernel: esi: 0000000b edi: 01e58580 ebp: 00000000 esp: 0119df30
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Sep 30 19:32:30 bhhome kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 002b gs: 002b ss: 0018
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Sep 30 19:32:30 bhhome kernel: Process top (pid: 17334, process nr: 34, stackpage=0119d000)
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Sep 30 19:32:30 bhhome kernel: Stack: 0007e2ac 00000fff 0007e2ac 01a84000 00000160
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Sep 30 19:32:30 bhhome kernel: Code: 83 39 00 74 65 ff 44 24 2c f6 01 01 74 5c ff 44 24 28 85 db
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I think this is what is asked for in the kernel source: README
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0018592c D _arp_tables
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00185918 d _arp_timer
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00155e9c t _array_read
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00115e4c T _audit_ptree
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0016b79c t _autoconfig
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0016f468 t _autoirq_probe
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My hardware configuration is as follows:
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486-DX2/66
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32mb memory
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Buslogic BT-445S VLB SCSI-2 HA
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DEC DSP3107L SCSI-2 disk
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Maxtor 8345S SCSI-1 disk
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Archive Viper 2150S tape
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ATI GUP, 2mb, VLB
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32mb swap
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I am running a connection to the Internet using PPP 2.1.2a.
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Please let me know if there is anything I should try to help isolate
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this problem. Also let me know if you need more info.
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Thanks in advance,
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Bill Heiser
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--
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Bill Heiser: bill@bhhome.ci.net, heiser@world.std.com
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------------------------------
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From: sforseil@vub.ac.be (FORSEILLES STEPHAN)
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Subject: Where is infomagic?
|
||||
Date: 3 Oct 1994 15:22:53 GMT
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I tried to mail infomagic.com but it bounced...
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||||
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Did they change their IP or did they just shut down theeir business?
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++=============================================================++
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|| Forseilles Stephan || sforseil@ulb.ac.be ||
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|| Av. FRISSEN 1/14 || ------------------------------||
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|| 1160 Bruxelles || Fido: 2:291/705.3503 ||
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|| BELGIUM || Phone: +32 2 675-61-09 ||
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|| Home Page at http://rcibm.ulb.ac.be:8000/~sforseil ||
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|| Anarchy is not disorder. Anarchy is the absence of orders. ||
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From: apj@twain.ucs.umass.edu (ADAM P JENKINS)
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Subject: Re: Announce: inetd for term
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Date: 1 Oct 1994 23:14:01 GMT
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GASPAROVSKI D. (m3923168@smoke.canberra.edu.au) wrote:
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: NOTE: You will need at term version 2.1d or greater to use inetd.term!
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: (version 2.1d can be found at
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: physics.purdue.edu:/pub/bcr/term/ALPHA/term-2.1d.tar.gz)
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: >From the README.term:
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: What is it?
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: ===========
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: "inetd.term" is a termified inetd (the internet superserver). It acts
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: exactly like the normal version except it also handles term connections.
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: With this, you no longer need to "tredir" on the remotehost. "inetd.term"
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: will probe for a term connection every 30 seconds, and if it finds one, will
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: bind() all the ports according to the config files /etc/inetd.conf and
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: /etc/services.
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: How to use it
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: =============
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: "inetd.term" acts exactly like the normal version, but with 2 extra
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: "protocols": termudp and termtcp. Thus, all you need to do is edit
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: /etc/inetd.conf as you would normally do, with the new protocol desired.
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: Example
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: =======
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: [snip]
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: You'll have to ftp it to see the rest.
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: inetd.term is currently available at:
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: physics.purdue.edu:/pub/bcr/term/Incoming
|
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: sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/Incoming
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|
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: but should be moved to:
|
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|
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: physics.purdue.edu:/pub/bcr/term/extra
|
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: sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/apps/comm/termstuff
|
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|
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: respectively.
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|
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: --
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: Dan ...
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: u923168@student.canberra.edu.au (Gasparovski / Daniel (ISE))
|
||||
: and the living will envy the dead
|
||||
|
||||
: --
|
||||
: Send submissions for comp.os.linux.announce to: linux-announce@tc.cornell.edu
|
||||
: Be sure to include Keywords: and a short description of your software.
|
||||
|
||||
|
||||
I checked both these places and didn't find it. Has it been moved
|
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since this was posted?
|
||||
|
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|
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==============================================================
|
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Adam P. Jenkins
|
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apj@twain.ucs.umass.edu
|
||||
|
||||
------------------------------
|
||||
|
||||
From: pbash@netcom.com (Paul Bash)
|
||||
Subject: Re: Yggdrasil Linux Plug and Play CD ver1.1 ?
|
||||
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 15:53:39 GMT
|
||||
|
||||
In article <jeffpkCx30q6.37K@netcom.com>,
|
||||
Jeff Kesselman <jeffpk@netcom.com> wrote:
|
||||
>In article <1994Oct3.002210.2485@tware.com>, Paul Bash <bash@tware.com> wrote:
|
||||
>>In article <Cx1LHz.3H1@cs.ruu.nl>, Jan Willems <janw@cs.ruu.nl> wrote:
|
||||
>>>
|
||||
>>>Yggdrasil users,
|
||||
>>>
|
||||
>>>I'm stuck with a few questions:
|
||||
>>>
|
||||
>>>- Is there a solution to the above described problem?
|
||||
>>>- Why is it that the fall 1993 CD was allright as far as I knew,
|
||||
>>> the summer 1994 gave me a lot of problems right away and this one won't
|
||||
>>> install simple packages in Xwindows?
|
||||
>>>- Is this really plug & play? Is it my fault? Am I doing things
|
||||
>>> wrong? Did they test it?
|
||||
>>>- Last but not least, are there any other CDROM's that say
|
||||
>>> they are plug & play. I might get me one.
|
||||
>>>
|
||||
>>> Regards,
|
||||
>>> Jan Willems.
|
||||
>>
|
||||
>>Having worked with both of them, the obvious solution to the Yggdrasil
|
||||
>>problems is to junk the CD and buy the Slackware PRO CD. While the Yggdrasil
|
||||
>>CD-ROM shows a lot of promise, it is far behind the Slackware distribution
|
||||
>>in terms of "Plug and Play".
|
||||
>>
|
||||
>>Yggdrasil is cute if you only want to burn 10MB of hard disk space and don't
|
||||
>>mind a _slow_ system running from CD-ROM. Past that, its a mess. One example:
|
||||
>
|
||||
>(various other vitriol deleted...)
|
||||
>
|
||||
>This helpful person, while treating us to his delightful rants, has
|
||||
>deleted the actual question asked to begin with (which figures) so its
|
||||
>kind of hard to help.
|
||||
>
|
||||
>I'm running Yygdrasil fall94 quite nicely. I am EXCEEDINGLY happy with
|
||||
>it, the docs that came with it, and the Linux bible I bought that
|
||||
>Yygdrasil publishes.
|
||||
>
|
||||
>If whomever posted the original question would like to mail it to me, Ill
|
||||
>see if I can help.
|
||||
>
|
||||
>In a democracy everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion....
|
||||
>(I won't finish that thought. Those of you out there inclined to agree
|
||||
>with me will be able to finish it for yourselves, and this way I don't
|
||||
>start a flame war with anyone else. :) )
|
||||
>
|
||||
|
||||
Hi Jeff,
|
||||
|
||||
Having a nice day?
|
||||
|
||||
If you will notice, I was not attempting to respond to the original question
|
||||
but, rather, to to Jan's comments. It is quite common, and even expected, to
|
||||
edit out the irrelevant parts of a post you are responding to. Saves bandwidth,
|
||||
so they say.
|
||||
|
||||
Since you are also on Netcom, I see, then I suggest that you try 1) a decent
|
||||
newsreader that allows you to backup through a thread, like trn and 2)
|
||||
the "P" key (you know, the one just above the ";" key). That will allow you
|
||||
to step back as far as you need to see the beginning of this thread. Or do
|
||||
you just feel like raving on someone who criticizes your baby?
|
||||
|
||||
As for your aspersions that I have some kind of hard-on for Yggdrasil, I
|
||||
install and maintain UNIX systems (mostly SunOS) as a consultant for a living.
|
||||
I've seen tons of installs and I know a mess when I see one. Other comments
|
||||
in this thread and other threads throughout the Linux newsgroups bear that
|
||||
out. I _did_ say that Yggdrasil shows a lot of promise. It just isn't there
|
||||
yet.
|
||||
|
||||
My comments were constructive and to the point. Hopefully Yggdrasil will
|
||||
read these and others here and take more care the next time. In the meantime
|
||||
the Slackware distributions I've used have always worked perfectly and give
|
||||
much finer control over the install process. Jan asked if there was a better
|
||||
CD out there and I told him.
|
||||
|
||||
Do you have a problem with that?
|
||||
|
||||
|
||||
--
|
||||
Paul Bash
|
||||
pbash@netcom.com
|
||||
|
||||
------------------------------
|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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