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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 94 11:13:48 EDT
Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #922
Linux-Misc Digest #922, Volume #2 Wed, 12 Oct 94 11:13:48 EDT
Contents:
Re: Beautifying Linux/Xfree (Bill McCarthy)
Anyone using P90-Plato-INTEL board under LINUX??? (Tilo Schuerer)
Amateur Radio Software for Linux List (Terry Dawson)
Re: SW Technologies (Jeff Kesselman)
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From: bmccarth@gulfaero.com (Bill McCarthy)
Subject: Re: Beautifying Linux/Xfree
Date: 11 Oct 1994 19:36:31 -0400
In article <37ea82$83s@sashimi.wwa.com> blackbob@wwa.com (Terence S. Murphy) writes:
>In article <CxGxzA.KwB@erie.ge.com>,
>Andrew R. Tefft <teffta@erie.ge.com> wrote:
>
>>Anyway I like the idea of a HOWTO, but even better, I like the idea of a
>>whole package, containing documentation, sample configuration files of
>>various 'schemes' of things (.fvwmrc's, app-defaults files, whatever),
>>and a tool to manipulate (choose/install) them.
>
>This is even a better idea, yes. I think we should do this! What do others
>think?
>--
>Terry Murphy | UIUC Frosh/CS Major | "The whole world has been made again" -
>Marillion | There ought to be an alt.fan.linus-torvalds! | "The S.A.T is not
>geared for the lower class so why waste time even trying to pass?"-Gang Starr
>"I never found a companion that was so companionable as solitude"-H.D.Thoreau
Yes, absolutely! Speaking as one who has just started looking at the stuff for
fvwm - goodstuff - a HOWTO would be great. I got a lot of good info from the
net in response to my questions - a lot of info that could be centralized in
a HOWTO. Fer example, I idin't know that there is a FVWM homepage on the Web
til one fella mentioned it in a post to me. Good stuff there for beginners and
advancers alike. Also, in one of the responses to my questions was one line
that got me going - just an example I could use. So, a HOWTO is a good idea.
Bill McCarthy
bmccarth@gulfaero.com
"Isn't it pretty to think so."
TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT\__Jake Barnes___________________________
LinuX + i486dx2/66
usual disclaimer
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From: tilo@ftat64.ee.TU-Berlin.DE (Tilo Schuerer)
Subject: Anyone using P90-Plato-INTEL board under LINUX???
Date: 12 Oct 1994 12:58:23 GMT
Hy,
I indent to buy an Pentium P90 INTEL Board, which
has the nicname "Plato" Because I never heart anything
about that board I wonder if anybody already used it
sucessfully under LINUX.
If there is enough interest I will summarize on the net.
I'm looking forward your responses!
Thanks a lot,
Tilo
========================
tilo@cs.tu-berlin.de
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.announce,rec.radio.info,aus.radio
From: terryd@extro.ucc.su.oz.au (Terry Dawson)
Subject: Amateur Radio Software for Linux List
Reply-To: terryd@extro.ucc.su.oz.au (Terry Dawson)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 13:46:22 GMT
Linux Amateur Radio Software List
Terry Dawson, VK2KTJ, terryd@extro.ucc.su.oz.au
v1.3 08 Oct 1994
It is hoped that this list will assist Amateur Radio operators in
finding and trying the various amateur radio software that has been
written for, or ported to Linux. It is also hoped that as a conse-
quence of this information being available that more amateur radio
operators will choose Linux as the platform of choice for their exper-
imentation, and that software developers will choose Linux as the
platform for their software development, further expanding the role of
operating systems like Linux in the Amateur Radio field.
1. Introduction.
This list was prompted by comments that had been expressed in the
various Linux newsgroups about the number of amateur radio operators
that were involved with Linux. It seemed to me that I was catching
snippets of information here and there relating to development efforts
taking place, but I never really knew where to locate either the
person responsible for a particular piece of software, or the software
itself. The list is quite small with only a few entries, but I'm
hoping that people will contribute to the list as new software becomes
available. I feel though that the items listed are an excellent base
to build on, as they represent the various ways in which software can
be developed for Linux for use in Amateur Radio.
I'd originally considered limiting the scope of this list to non-
commercial software only, but have subsequently changed my mind.
Taking a serious look at most amateur radio fields shows that most
good developments are those that are designed by individuals and that
commercial entities have taken up and disseminated to the mass market.
I'd like to see the same happen for Linux support for Amateur Radio
software too.
2. Contributions/Updates etc.
I'd like for this list to be as complete and up-to-date as possible.
So I'm keen to hear about any developments or products that I don't
already know about, or that the entry is obselete or outdated for.
What I'd like as a minimum set of requirement would be something like
the following:
Name
The name of the software in question.
Author
Who wrote, or ported the software. An email address, or some
other means of contacting them is also essential.
Description
A single line description of what the software does.
Status
An indication of the software's status. Is it still in testing?
Is it a production release? Is it still in the design stage?
System requirements
What does the software require to run? Does it require X-
Windows? Does it need a soundcard? Does it need a certain
version of kernel? Does it need other software to support it?
Detail
I'm not keen on including a large amount of detail on each piece
of software as this would consume a lot of time reading and
trying to keep up to date. So instead what I'd like to list is
what makes this software unique, anything special about it.
Perhaps its most outstanding features, that sort of thing.
Where and How to obtain it.
If the software is freely distributable then ftp details would
be great. If it is commercial software then the name of the
company distributing the software, and an address or telephone
number. If it is available only by some other means, say mail
order, then details on where and how to obtain it.
Licensing/Copyright etc.
Is the software Copyleft? Copyright? Shareware? Public Domain?
Restricted in use in any way?
Don't worry if you don't know all of these details, just send me what
you do know and I'll list what I can. I'd rather have an incomplete
listing than no listing at all.
Please mail any contributions to:
terryd@extro.ucc.su.oz.au or terry@orac.dn.itg.telecom.com.au
I'd list a packet radio address too but I'm still not properly
operational again yet after moving house.
3. Discussion relating to Amateur Radio and Linux.
There are various places that discussion relating to Amateur Radio and
Linux take place. They take place in the comp.os.linux.* newsgroups,
they also take place on the HAMS list on niksula.hut.fi. Other places
where they are held include the tcp-group mailing list at ucsd.edu
(the home of amateur radio tcp/ip discussions), at Club meetings and
on-air of course.
To join the Linux HAMS channel on the mail list server, send mail to:
linux-activists@niksula.hut.fi
with the line:
X-Mn-Admin: join HAMS
at the top of the message body (not the subject line).
To join the tcp-group send mail to:
listserver@ucsd.edu
with the line:
subscribe tcp-group
in the body of the text.
Please remember that the tcp-group is primarily for discussion of the
use of advanced protocols, of which tcp/ip is one, in Amateur Radio.
Linux specific questions should not go there.
4. Where to obtain new versions of this list.
This list will be periodically posted to the comp.os.linux.announce
newsgroup, and to the HAMS list on niksula.hut.fi.
It is also available from the following World Wide Web sites:
Dennis Boylan N4ZMZ <dennis@nanovx.atl.ga.us> makes it available at
the following three locations:
www.com (http://www.com/linux/radio/index.html), www.hboc.com
(http://www.hboc.com/linux/index.html) and www.lan.com
(http://www.lan.com/linux/index.html).
John Gotts N8QDW <jgotts@engin.umich.edu> makes it available at:
www.engin.umich.edu
(http://www.engin.umich.edu/~jgotts/linuxhamsoft.html).
Alan Hargreaves VK2KVF <alan@dap.CSIRO.AU> makes it available in
Australia at: www.dap.csiro.au (http://www.dap.csiro.au/RadioLinux).
<dantodd@wheel.ucdavis.edu> will be making it available sometime
shortly.
Please let me know if you'd like to make it available somewhere too.
5. Satellite
The following software is for use in experimentation with Satellite
communication.
5.1. MicroSat Ground Station Software
Author
John Melton, G0ORX/N6LYT, g0orx@amsat.org and Jonathan Naylor
G4KLX, g4klx@amsat.org
Description
Microsat Ground Station software.
Status
BETA. Version 0.9-Xaw recently released.
System requirements
Alan Cox's kernel based AX.25 support ver 1.1.12 or better. X-
Windows. The programs make use of the Athena Widgets and look
much better with the 3D libraries.
Detail
This software allows you to use of a KISS tnc to directly
communicate with the Microsat series of satellites. It provides
an Athena Widgets based X-Windows interface, and allows you a
comprehensive range of means of interacting with the satellite.
The software should work with any window manager.
The software provides the following programs:
xpb
broadcast monitor
xpg
ftl0 file upload program, message upload program
xtlm
telemetry display program
downloaded
downloaded file list viewer
directory
directory list viewer
message
message preparation application
viewtext
uncompressed ASCII text file viewer
viewlog
display the contents of some log files
xweber
special program for downloading webersat images
phs
general purpose PACSAT header stripper
Where and How to obtain it.
John's software is available from:
ftp.ucsd.edu
(ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/hamradio/packet/tcpip/incoming/microsat-0.9-Xaw.tar.gz)
or ftp.funet.fi
(ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/ham/satellite/microsat/microsat-0.9-Xaw.tar.gz).
Please check for new versions.
Licensing/Copyright etc.
GPL
Contributed by:
John Melton, G0ORX/N6LYT, Alan Cox, GW4PTS, Jonathon Naylor,
G4KLX
6. Shack Automation
Software for simplifying tasks in the shack. Examples might include
software for controlling the newer breed of radios, logging programs,
QSL database, or antenna rotation.
7. Packet Radio
Software for use in conjunction with, or for facilitating packet
radio.
7.1. Kernel Based AX.25 networking.
Author
Alan Cox, GW4PTS, iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk
Description
Software that allows the Linux Kernel to perform AX.25
networking.
Status
ALPHA. Quite stable though.
System requirements
Linux kernel 1.0 or later.
Detail
Alan's software provides the programmer with a berkeley socket
based interface to the AX.25 protocol. AX.25 sockets can opened
for either connected, or connectionless modes of operation.
Support to allow tcp/ip over AX.25 is provided. The user
applications has been Jonathon G4KLX. The software comes in two
parts, a kernel patch, and the user programs. The user programs
included are:
axadd
to manipulate the AX.25 ARP table.
axattach
to convert a serial device into a KISS device.
axl
an AX.25 listener designed to start a PMS when it receives an
incoming connection. The PMS is still very new.
axsetcall
to change the callsign of a port.
beacon
generated beacon messages every 30 minutes.
call
A linemode AX.25 connection program. Call allows you to make
connections to other AX.25 nodes. It provides file transmit
and receive capabilities, and newer versions allow YAPP
binary file transfers.
listen
a demonstration of how to use intercept AX.25 frames at the
raw packet level. Useful as a building block for packet
tracing for example.
Where and How to obtain it.
There are a number of different versions of the software. You
must choose the one that suits your version of Linux kernel. The
software is available from: sunacm.swan.ac.uk
(ftp://sunacm.swan.ac.uk/pub/misc/Linux/Radio/)
More detail on where and how to obtain the software is provided
in the plain text version of the NET-2-HOWTO
(ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/howto/NET-2-HOWTO) or if
you have WWW access at: NET-2-HOWTO via WWW
(http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/NET-2-HOWTO.html).
Licensing/Copyright etc.
Most of the software is covered by the GNU Public License, some
of the software is Copyright by the Regents of University
California Berkeley, and small portions of the user programs are
Copyright Phil Karn KA9Q, whose copyright allows unrestricted
use by Amateur Radio, Educational Institutions and Commercial
KA9Q OEM license holders.
Contributed by:
Terry Dawson, VK2KTJ.
7.2. JNOS
Author
Brandon Allbery, KF8NH, bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org
Description
Brandon ported JNOS to Linux. His port is currently of the 1.09
(aka 1.08df) release of JNOS. Future versions will probably be
based on Doug Crompton's evolution of 1.08df. Brandon suggests
that JNOS for Linux is primarily of interest to people with
existing DOS-based NOS configurations (especially server/switch
configurations) who wish to switch to Linux or to escape the
640K barrier.
Status
The current version is ALPHA.4. Brandon is still tracking down
bugs, as well as evolving new features.
System Requirements.
Any version of Linux along with ncurses 1.8.1 or 1.8.5 (the
latter is preferred). Optionally you will require Linux
networking (at least loopback) and slattach (kernels pre-1.1.13
or post-1.1.20 required for this).
Detail
If you include the Linux networking code in addition to JNOS,
you can link the two by a slip link running over a pty, so that
Linux can provide services to your radio users. In this way you
can easily add servers without having to build them into JNOS
itself. Brandon has supplied the following list of known bugs:
o some servers seem to be causing unexplained exits.
o PPP is reported not to work in ALPHA.4, although it worked in
ALPHA.3.
o BBS forwarding when convers is compiled in but not configured
causes core dumps.
o the finger server is getting bad filenames.
o the bbs W command is case-munging filenames.
Where and How to obtain it.
You can obtain JNOS for Linux ALPHA.4 at: ftp.ucsd.edu
(ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/hamradio/packet/tcpip/linux/j109lxA4.tgz)
ncurses is available on most Linux ftp sites.
Licensing/Copyright etc.
Brandon's modifications to JNOS are public domain. Most of the
pre-existing NOS code is copyrighted and restricted to non-
commercial use by the various contributors from Phil Karn on.
Contributed by:
Brandon Allbery, KF8NH
7.3. N0ARY Packet BBS for UN*X
Author
Bob Arasmith, N0ARY, ported to Linux (and others) by Bob Proulx,
KF0UW, rwp@fc.hp.com
Description
A packet bbs implemented under UN*X.
Status
ALPHA. Bob is running version ARY-0.9 on both Linux and HP-UX.
The next version from N0ARY which is called 4.0 is in alpha
test/development release. Bob has not been able to bring this
online yet and is still running 0.9+kf0uw mods. Bob has about
half it working with Alan Cox's AX.25 kernel which would be the
desirable combination.
System Requirements.
Linux installation, C Compiler, plus HAM radio TNC hardware.
Detail
This bbs has an excellent packet user interface. It has a
compatible set of commands with the RLI bbs so users will be
familiar with it immediately. It then extends the command set
to be a very nice natural language style interface (e.g "list at
allus about KPC-3"). Many csh style bang commands are supported.
Also included is a mail interface to provide a packet to
internet gateway.
Currently you need to customize the source code for your
installation so you need some C programming proficiency.
Where and How to obtain it.
For a Linux version or for Linux information send mail to
rwp@fc.hp.com. For a SunOS version contact bob@arasmith.com.
This code is not packaged for distribution yet since it is not
past the alpha stage of development.
Licensing/Copyright etc.
Copyright by Bob Arasmith, N0ARY, but freely redistributable.
Contributed by:
Bob Proulx, kf0uw, rwp@fc.hp.com
7.4. MBL/RLI message to NNTP and email converter.
Author
SM0OHI, pme@it.kth.se
Description
Software that will convert incoming MBL/RLI messages into either
NNTP or RFC-822 formatted mail messages.
Status
Development, not yet released.
System requirements
Unknown.
Detail
This software would be ideally suited to those who want to
establish a mail and news gateway between conventional tcp/ip
networks and the amateur radio mail network.
Where and How to obtain it.
Not yet availale.
Licensing/Copyright etc.
Unknown.
Contributed by:
SM0OHI
7.5. Single floppy disk AX.25 router.
Author
Alan Cox, GW4PTS, iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk
Description
A single floppy disk version of linux with enough software to
allow a PC to act as an AX.25/IP router.
Status
Development, not yet released.
System requirements.
As for any Linux system a 386SX class PC or better.
Detail
No detail yet.
Where and How to obtain it.
Not yet available.
Licensing/Copyright etc.
Unknown/Undecided.
Contributed by:
Terry Dawson, VK2KTJ
7.6. TNT.
Author
Mark Wahl, DL4YBG, DL4YBG @ DB0BLO.#BLN.DEU.EU, wahlm@zelator.de
Description
A Hostmode terminal program for TNC's that support the WA8DED
hostmode protocol.
Status
Version 0.8 is reportedly stable, possibly beta.
System requirements
TNC supporting WA8DED hostmode protocol, serial line.
Detail
No detail yet.
Where and How to obtain it.
You can obtain the software direct from the author by email.
Contributed by:
Steffen Weinreich, DL5ZBG.
7.7. Wampes
A port of Wampes to Linux. Could someone send me details of the
latest wampes release please ?
8. Morse Code
Software for use in conjunction with, or for facilitating Morse
communication.
8.1. Morse trainer.
Author
Alan Cox, GW4PTS, iiitac@pyr.swan.ac.uk
Description
A Morse Code trainer that uses the PC internal speaker
Status
stable, works quite well, unfinished.
System requirements
Linux, any version
Detail
Alan wrote this small program in only an hour. It is quite neat,
and allows you to play morse at a range of speeds and
frequencies through the PC internal speaker. You can specify the
text to be played either from the command line, from a file, or
the program is capable of generating random character groups. As
it stands you must invoke the program from a Linux Virtual
Console, as it relies on certain kernel calls to produce the
sound, and these don't work as easily from an XTerm. As it
sounds each character it lists the character in verbal form (Di,
Dit, Dah etc.) to the screen. Alan is hoping that someone will
take the code and enhance it with the features he has listed in
the comments at the head of the source file.
Where and How to obtain it.
Alan has given me a copy, so you can mail me and I'll send you a
copy. If it is popular enough I'll make it available by ftp
somewhere.
Contributed by:
Terry Dawson, VK2KTJ, terryd@extro.ucc.su.oz.au
9. AMTOR
Software for use in conjunction with, or for facilitating AMTOR.
10. PACTOR
Software for use in conjunction with, or for facilitating PACTOR.
11. Slow Scan Television
Software for use in conjunction with, or for facilitating Slow Scan
Television.
12. Facsimile
Software for use in conjunction with, or for facilitating Facsimile.
13. Design and Construction
Software to assist in the design and construction of amateur radio
related things. Antenna, Circuit Board, Filter, and QSL card design
packages are all good candidates for this section.
13.1. Software Oscilloscope
Author
Jeff Tranter, Jeff_Tranter@Mitel.COM
Description
Scope is a simple software emulation of an oscilloscope. It
graphically displays voltage as a function of time.
Status
ALPHA. First release.
System requirements
Sound card with input capability supported by the kernel sound
driver. SVGALIB is used to do the display work.
Detail
Scope uses the /dev/dsp device to take audio in from the
soundcard and displays it on the screen in a manner similar to
an oscilloscope. Jeff claims Scope was written more for
amusement value than for any serious purpose.
Where and How to obtain it.
You can obtain source, makefile and man page for Scope from:
sunsite.unc.edu
(ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/circuits/scope-0.1.tar.gz)
Licensing/Copyright etc.
GNU Public License. Copyleft.
Contributed by:
Terry Dawson, VK2KTJ
13.2. irsim
Author
Dmitry Teytelman, dim@leland.stanford.edu
Description
An event-driven logic-level simulator for MOS circuits
Status
Version 8.6, production.
System Requirements
X-Windows.
Detail
irsim is an X11 based simulator for MOS circuits. It has two
simulation modes, either switch where each transistor is
modelled as a voltage controlled switch, or linear where each
transistor is modelled as a resistor in series with a voltage
controlled switch, and each node has a capacitance.
Where and How to obtain it.
You can obtain irsim from: sunsite.unc.edu
(ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/circuits/irsim.tar.z).
Licensing/Copyright etc.
Freely Redistributable
Contributed by:
Terry Dawson, VK2KTJ
13.3. Spice
Author
University of California, Berkeley, ported by
eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Description
Spice is an analog circuit emulator.
Status
Stable release. Last fortran version produced.
System requirements
Unknown.
Detail
Spice allows you to design and test circuits in a computer
modelled environment to see how they will behave without having
to touch a soldering iron, or solder.
Where and How to obtain it.
You can obtain version 2g6 of Spice from: sunsite.unc.edu
(ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/circuits/spice2g6.tar.z)
Licensing/Copyright etc.
Copyright held by University California, Berkeley. Freely
redistributable.
Contributed by:
Terry Dawson, VK2KTJ
14. Training/Educational
Software to assist in education or training for amateur radio. Morse
Code tutorials, technical examination database, Computer Based
Training software, and the like are listed here.
15. Miscellaneous
Software that I couldn't put anywhere else.
15.1. SunClock
Author
John Mackin, john@cs.su.oz.AU
Description
A clock that will show you instantly what parts of the globe are
exposed by sunlight and what parts aren't.
Status
Released.
System requirements.
X-Windows.
Detail
sunclock is another of those desktop gadgets that most people
think look nice but really don't have a lot of use for. I use
sunclock to obtain an at-a-glance indication of the time
anywhere in the world. In its iconic form it sits in a small
Mercator projection. When maximised it produces the same image
but obviously larger with slightly more detail. It also
displays the date, local time and UTC. sunclock actually
calculates mathematically what parts of globe are sunlit and
which aren't, it seems quite accurate, so long as you assume the
earth has no atmosphere.
Where and How to obtain it.
I haven't seen any precompiled sunclock binaries for Linux
about, so check your nearest archie server. sunclock compiled
straight out of the box for me.
Licensing/Copyright etc.
Public Domain and may be freely copied as long as the notices at
the top of sunclock.c remain intact.
Contributed by:
Terry Dawson, VK2KTJ
15.2. Xearth
Author
Kirk Lauritz Johnson, tuna@cag.lcs.mit.edu, modified by Dimitris
Evmorfopoulos, devmorfo@cs.mtu.edu.
Description
A rotating earth for X-windows root window. It has real life
shading, and options for geostatic view, and non geostatic view.
A prettier and more modern version of sunclock but requires a
bit more processing power.
Status
released, stable.
System requirements.
X-Windows.
Detail
xearth is much like sunclock except that it draws a view of the
earth onto your root map in blue and green, as the earth would
be viewed from space. You have a number of options in
determining the behaviour of the view. You can either have it so
that the same part of the earth is displayed, and the sun
rotates, so you'll have varying light and shadow on the display,
or you can have it shown as if you were travelling with the sun,
so the whole of the globe is visible, and the earth rotates.
You can specify the latitude/longtitude that will be the centre
of the display. xearth is also capable of producing gif and ppm
graphics output, so you can generate custom graphics of the
globe. When run as your root map, you can adjust the interval
of time between updates. On my 486SX25 you notice a small
degradation in performance when it is recalculating, but it's
not annoying.
Where and How to obtain it.
A precompiled xearth binary is available from: sunsite.unc.edu,
or the source can be obtained from just about any X11/contrib
directory. Try export.lcs.mit.edu if you can't find it
elsewhere.
Licensing/Copyright etc.
Copyright (C) 1989, 1990, 1993 by Kirk Lauritz Johnson. The
copyright notice included states that xearth is freely
redistributable so long as the copyright notice is left intact,
and be included in documentation.
Contributed by:
Alan Cox, GW4PTS.
--
Send submissions for comp.os.linux.announce to: linux-announce@tc.cornell.edu
Be sure to include Keywords: and a short description of your software.
------------------------------
From: jeffpk@netcom.com (Jeff Kesselman)
Subject: Re: SW Technologies
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 08:27:05 GMT
In article <373rmu$bm0@pad-thai.cam.ov.com>,
Jonathan I. Kamens <jik@cam.ov.com> wrote:
>In article <3726hn$ihe@delphi.cs.ucla.edu>, edwin@maui.cs.ucla.edu (E. Robert Tisdale) writes:
Not that I particularly want to get cuaght up in this mess, but i felt i
aught to say something in Jonathan's defense. Bob said somethign in his
post on the order of "so Martin didn't have enough money to cover the
check. he evntually made good. Is that a crime?"
The answer is yes, actually it is. Knowingly writing a check without the
funds to cover it in the bank at the time of writing is referred to as
'kiting'. It is not only considered VERY unethical business practices,
but is actually illegal in a great many states (here in CA, ANYONE
writing a bad check can be fined something like $200 or 10% of the check,
whichever is greater.) I actually had an Uncle (I never met the man
himself) sent to federal prison for repeatingly and knowingly writing bad
checks (he was gambling-addict.)
So the answer is yes. This action on the aprt of someone puporting to be
involved in legitimate business IS both highly unethical and a crime. The
fact that Jonathan says he has had others contact him who have had thier
refunds bounce (and i at the moment don't see a good reason to doubt his
sincerity) I woudl consider very disturbing. Actually if he had a
documented pattern of this behavior and were REALLY vindictive, he could
probobly contact the DA in whatever state the firm is doing business.
(Actually, considering its cross state lines, its probobly in federal
jurisdiction...)
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