Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #217 From: Digestifier To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU Date: Fri, 10 Sep 93 07:13:04 EDT Linux-Activists Digest #217, Volume #6 Fri, 10 Sep 93 07:13:04 EDT Contents: Re: Will Linux run MSDOS applications (which use DMA/interrupts)? (Paul Gortmaker) Re: SLS1.03: no root login via ttyS0 (/etc/securetty *is* ok) (Mark Cosham) Re: ***Q: How to add path? (Mark Cosham) New User Problem (Richard Nicol) Question about Novell (Dennis Gray Jr.) How to make "magic"(VLSI CAD TOOL) for Linux ? (T.H.doctor) Re: Compiling a man page (Ian Parkin (rgrant)) Re: Will Linux run MSDOS applications (which use DMA/interrupts)? (Malcolm Beattie) Re: PLEASE HELP with networking problem.. (Malcolm Beattie) Help with first install (Paul Trouton) Re: rlogin problem (Jan Wielemaker) Problems with installation (travis jensen) Re: BSD UNIX (Julian Elischer) Re: Can you port Linux to my Refrigerator? (Graham Hubert Freeman) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rcopg@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU (Paul Gortmaker) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Will Linux run MSDOS applications (which use DMA/interrupts)? Date: 10 Sep 1993 02:23:29 GMT becker@super.org (Donald J. Becker) writes: >[[ I should only need a hot mitt rather than the full Nomex suit to >handle the pedantic replies and "but it works with {OS/2,NT,MSWindoze}". ]] ...no, the full Nomex suit will be required. Need I remind you that you said the following?!? >It's too much to expect to be able to run an arbitrary MS-DOS device >driver under Linux, or any real OS. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Perhaps a fire proof blanket will suffice... ;-) Paul. -- Paul Gortmaker c/o Microelectronics and Materials Technology Centre. Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, GPO Box 2476V, Melbourne 3001, Victoria, Australia. Ph (61) 3 660 2601. FAX (61) 3 662 1921. e-mail: paul@cain.mmtc.rmit.oz.au rcopg@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au >Donald Becker becker@super.org >IDA Supercomputing Research Center >17100 Science Drive, Bowie MD 20715 301-805-7482 ------------------------------ From: inu574f@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Mark Cosham) Subject: Re: SLS1.03: no root login via ttyS0 (/etc/securetty *is* ok) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 02:46:16 GMT Igor Khasilev writes: >To : Mathias Bartsch >Hi! > > yes, I put ttyS0 into /etc/securetty, > > yes, I can login as a "normal" user. > > In the case of root: > > login prints "ILLEGAL ROOT LOGIN ON TTY `ttyS0'" at the console. > > Is it possible that login uses a different file with similar contents > > as /etc/securetty ? >Look at /etc/login.defs - there is a string wich looks like >CONSOLE tty1:tty2:tty3....ttyp1:ttyp2 >You must add ttyS0 (or any other line wich you wish use as root) to this string. Or you can remove (comment out) this line altogether if you don't mind root being able to log in from anywhere. eg. not on a network. Mark Cosham > Igor >--- > * Origin: Tesseract Corner (2:467/2) >#Via Tesseract Corner GATE (2:467/2.100@FidoNet) -- Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ===========> <=======> <=======> <=======> <=======> <=======> <=========== Mark Cosham Monash University, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia cosham@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au inu574f@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ From: inu574f@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Mark Cosham) Subject: Re: ***Q: How to add path? Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 02:47:59 GMT slksp@cc.usu.edu writes: >Hi, >I want to add a path to my system, but I cannot find the right file >to do this. My question is: is there a file just like autoexec.bat >in dos that alow us to setup paths? >Thanks a lot! >Chet Have a look at /etc/profile if you're still using bash as your shell. Mark Cosham -- Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ===========> <=======> <=======> <=======> <=======> <=======> <=========== Mark Cosham Monash University, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia cosham@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au inu574f@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ From: richard@g1nzz.demon.co.uk (Richard Nicol) Subject: New User Problem Reply-To: richard@g1nzz.demon.co.uk Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1993 18:01:18 +0000 Hi, I hope somebody can help with a problem I have loading Linux. I have been given a series of Linus disks but I can't even get the boot disk to run. When I boot the computer from the disk, it checks for comms and printer ports. It then checks the SCSI Bus and reports the following:- Future Domain: BIOS at ca0000; Port Base at 140 using IRQ 5 Future Domain: SCSI Bus Reset Future Domain: IRQ 5 Requested from kernel scsi0; Future Domain TMC-16x0 Future Domain TMC-16x0 scsi driver version 3.5 scsi: 1 hosts scsi (Future Domain): Abort Phase=2; target = 0 comnd = 0x00 pieces = 0 size = 256 IMR = 0xdfd9 IRR = 0x0000 ISR = 0x0000 scsi Status = 1 TMC Status = 43 Interrupt Mask = 29 scsi (Future Domain): Abort Phase=2; target = 0 comnd = 0x00 pieces = 0 size = 256 IMR = 0xdfd9 IRR = 0x0000 ISR = 0x0000 scsi Status = 1 TMC Status = 43 Interrupt Mask = 29 At thios point the system hangs with the HD light permanently on but there doesn't appear to be any disk or other activity. On the SCSI bus I have 2 hard disks, a Toshiba CD-ROM drive and an Archive Viper Taper Drive. Both access lights illuminate briefly when the disk first runs but go out and don't come back on again. The BIOS is by AMI and is dated 6/6/91. I have been given two different boot disks (by the same person) and they both stop at exactly the same place and the second disk was tested before given to me to try. Any clues or hints will be gratefully received. Please reply direct as I don't receive this newsgroup regularly. Richard -- Internet: richard@g1nzz.demon.co.uk ampr.org: g1nzz@gb7max.#28.gbr.eu Compuserve: 100010,3046 ------------------------------ From: dgray@menudo.uh.edu (Dennis Gray Jr.) Subject: Question about Novell Date: 10 Sep 1993 05:55:52 GMT Reply-To: DGray@uh.edu Hello all! Suppose I have a 386 running linux with an ethernet card as I have now. Then suppose I have a 286 running DOS (bleh!). Now, for some reason, I want to access the files on the 286. So, can I get an ethernet card and, say, Novell Netware Lite and mount the PC disk(s) via the network? If so, is it hard and is it reliable? If not, how can I accomplish this while still running DOS on the 286? Thanks in advance, -dennis -- Dennis Gray, Jr. DGray@uh.edu And on the First Day, Fear created God. ------------------------------ From: d794348@cardinals (T.H.doctor) Subject: How to make "magic"(VLSI CAD TOOL) for Linux ? Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 07:19:22 GMT Magic is a famous VLSI cad tool on workstations. It works find on our Sun Sparc 2. Has anybody ever compiled it for Linux ? Any suggestion is deeply appreciated. Jeng-Her Lin(d794348@ee.nctu.edu.tw) ------------------------------ From: iparkin@iris.bt.co.uk (Ian Parkin (rgrant)) Subject: Re: Compiling a man page Reply-To: iparkin@iris.bt.co.uk Date: 10 Sep 93 09:44:14 GMT > Try specifying -Tascii -man as command line options; > #!/bin/sh > groff -Tascii -man $* | less You can also compress ( gzip also ) man pages to save a bit of HD IAP ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc From: mbeattie@black.ox.ac.uk (Malcolm Beattie) Subject: Re: Will Linux run MSDOS applications (which use DMA/interrupts)? Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 08:40:37 GMT In article <26oof2$7up@aggedor.rmit.OZ.AU> rcopg@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU (Paul Gortmaker) writes: >becker@super.org (Donald J. Becker) writes: > >>[[ I should only need a hot mitt rather than the full Nomex suit to >>handle the pedantic replies and "but it works with {OS/2,NT,MSWindoze}". ]] > >...no, the full Nomex suit will be required. Need I remind you that you >said the following?!? > >>It's too much to expect to be able to run an arbitrary MS-DOS device >>driver under Linux, or any real OS. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I read this as "or *any* real OS" rather than "or any *real* OS". See the difference? The former implies "or any (other) real OS"; the latter is a suicide note. >Perhaps a fire proof blanket will suffice... ;-) Don't lend him yours, you may need it :-) --Malcolm -- Malcolm Beattie | I'm not a kernel hacker Oxford University Computing Services | I'm a kernel hacker's mate 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN (U.K.) | And I'm only hacking kernels Tel: +44 865 273232 Fax: +44 865 273275 | 'Cos the kernel hacker's late ------------------------------ From: mbeattie@black.ox.ac.uk (Malcolm Beattie) Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP with networking problem.. Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 08:53:43 GMT In article <26gnooINNu9@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> anils@research.cs.orst.edu writes: >I had posted the following post yesterday and Malcolm Beattie > suggested that I add my local network to the >/etc/networks file, which I did, but as soon as I do that > >-- networks file --- >local-net 128.193.76.0 >------ end ---- > route add local-net > > starts givnig me the SCIOADDRT: Network unreachable error, and as soon as I > take it out, I am able to add my local net to teh rouing table, but the > flags are UH, which means it comes up as a host rather than a network. > > Any ideas.. My previous post an relevant info is appended below. Would > really appreciate any help. I've just re-read Linus' post about setting up net-2 and noticed the following In article <24nuqo$6tp@klaava.Helsinki.FI> torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds) writes: >Also, your IP address implies a B-class network (255.255.0.0), but you >seem to be subnetted to C-class (255.255.255.0). Sadly, this is one of >the things that the 4.4.1 libc gets wrong, and the "getnetbyname()" >function will mess up your network address (it will truncate it to >131.155.0.0 instead of the 131.155.110.0 found in your /etc/networks). >The only solution is probably to get the 4.4.2 library (which hasn't >been released yet, ugh) or to recompile 'route' to fix this some other >way to overcome the library bug (adding a 'net' keyword or even >hardcoding it orwhatever to specify a network address instead of using >/etc/networks and the buggy C library). This may well be your problem (on top of the one I previously answered: lack of route to network.) Sorry I took so long to notice this. --Malcolm -- Malcolm Beattie | I'm not a kernel hacker Oxford University Computing Services | I'm a kernel hacker's mate 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN (U.K.) | And I'm only hacking kernels Tel: +44 865 273232 Fax: +44 865 273275 | 'Cos the kernel hacker's late ------------------------------ From: ptrouton@bfsec.bt.co.uk (Paul Trouton) Subject: Help with first install Reply-To: ptrouton@bfsec.bt.co.uk Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 08:55:32 GMT Please help. I installed SLS 1.03 version linux on my machine last night, but I have a few problems. My machine is as follows. 486/33 AMI 8MB Ram 340MB Western Digital IDE drive currently on ISA bus ET4000 Local bus display card Sound Blaster Pro I partitioned the drive C: 20 MB dos Boot extended partition hda3 Linux 120MB active * hda4 Linux 16MB swap D: 180MB dos I then installed LILO sucessfully and made C: inactive. My system boots correctly and loads in to root ok. ====== On bootup I get the following messages, ('icrus' is my hosts name) . .Could someone please describe the format of these messages SIOC . . /etc/rc.net: icrus(2112)SIOCSIFADDR: Invalid Arguement SIOCGIFFLAGS: Invalid Arguement SIOCGIFFLAGS: Invalid Arguement SIOCGIFFLAGS: Invalid Arguement SIOCGIFFLAGS: Invalid Arguement SIOCSIFNETMASK: Invalid Arguement SIOCADDRT: Network is unreadable , portmap, inetd, named.Sep 9 23:52:58 named [40]:restarted .Sep 9 23:52:58 [40]: named.hosts: no SOA record. .Sep 9 23:52:58 [40]: named.local: no SOA record. .Sep 9 23:52:58 [40]: /etc/named.boot: line11: bad flaf 'icrus.2112' .Sep 9 23:52:58 init[1]: Entering runlevel: 6 .Sep 9 23:52:58 icrus sysloged: /var/log/notice: no such file or directory I am presently only a standalone computer, and I know that these messages are in response to the kernal not being able to setup the host, but what should I do to correct this, I dont want to do any damage. I also think that to get rid of the last error message I should create the /var/log/notice directory and file, however what is this used for and again is it ok to do this. I am unsure. Also .... So far I have installed as far as C3, at which point the SLS installation requested the blank formatted disk to be inserted for bootup. I did this and after I have fiddled around a while with the system, I wanted to continue to install the rest of the complete sls install, namely disks Dx, Tx, Sx and Xx. I used the command sysinstall -series D (for installing the D series of disks. The prog then requested that I place D1 in floppy disk and press return I did so but the program did not attempt to read from fd0, it just requested the same message again. After three 's the sysinstall prog fell back into linux. NOW... I can mount the fd0 floppy disk, and read from it, so I mounted the floppy disk with D1 in it and tried the sysinstall again, but it still did not work. I also used the sysinstall -mount command to no effect WHY and again can you help. Lastly... How do I setup myself as a new user, because I do not wish to keep using root. I looked at the command useradd but the man pages were pretty unhelpful and there is no info on the FAQ's or the install guide for linux. ------------------------------ From: jan@swi.psy.uva.nl (Jan Wielemaker) Subject: Re: rlogin problem Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 09:44:00 GMT fauerbac@clyde.cs.unca.edu (John Fauerbach) writes: >Has anyone else have problems with rlogin. It works for me about half >the time and the rest of the time it gives me a "User defined signal 1" >it then runs my .cshrc and .login and exits the remote workstation. My >other problem is when I press control-c on the remote workstation, it >closes my connection. This does not happen when I telnet in. I have >had this problem since pl9 and I am currently on pl12. Any ideas out >there? >Thanks, >John Fauerbach Got the same problem a while ago. I don't have my linux box around, so I can't be very precise. The trouble is (again) with the signal handling incompatibilities between BSD and POSIX. The signal handler that gets called to handle window resizing does not reinstall itself, nor uses siginstall(). To patch: get the rlogin source from the NET-2 distribution, search for signal(SIGUSR1, SomeFunction) and patch SomeFunction() to read something like: SomeFunction(sig) int sig; { signal(sig, SomeFunction); } I don't know for the ^C problem (not noticed this). Regards --- Jan ------------------------------ From: jensen@peruvian.cs.utah.edu (travis jensen) Subject: Problems with installation Date: Fri, 10 Sep 93 09:58:23 GMT Sorry to bother, but I am out of ideas as to what I am doing wrong. First, the machine: 486dx33 w/4MB RAM 234 MB HDD VLB Video 7 Graphics card Second, the Linux: I am using the latest release of SLS on tsx-11.mit.edu. Lastly, the problem: To start at the beginning, I have a 120MB DOS partition. I then set up a 110k block partition for my file system and a 7k block partition for swap space. I create a file system using "mke2fs -c /dev/hda2" and a swap partition using "mkswap /dev/hda3" and "swapon" So far, no errors. Then I run doinstall. When I insert disk a2 and start uncompressing the first file (I skip over the faq), I run out of disk space. I don't even get the first file to uncompress from "bin.tgz" before I run out of disk space. I tried this again (all of it, first deleting the partions using fdisk and then rebuilding them) but to no avail. I then tried creating a DOS logical drive, formatted it (to make sure there was nothing left from the Linux), deleted it, and tried to reinstall Linux. Does this sound at all familiar to anyone? If so, what am I doing wrong? Thanks in advance for your help, Travis *who is beginning to wonder if Linus wrote Linux as a *big* practical joke against me* -- Travis A. Jensen jensen@peruvian.cs.utah.edu (preferred) jensen@cadehp0.eng.utah.edu (next best) "My elelator! Not your elelator, my elelator!!"--Baby Plucky Duck ------------------------------ From: juliane@belfast.dcd.wa.gov.au (Julian Elischer) Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.386bsd.misc Subject: Re: BSD UNIX Date: 10 Sep 1993 15:56:12 +0800 In article <1993Sep8.004749.2438@sophia.smith.edu> jfieber@sophia.smith.edu (J Fieber) writes: >Well heck, my pokey old un-accelerated Amiga 2000 got better disk >i/o performance than this spiffy new 486 I'm using now. I'm >using the same drives with an (expensive!) Adaptec 1542C. Pretty >darn depressing I must say. The price of EISA controllers >amounts to highway robbery too. It's not all the fault of the architecture. When I first wrote these drivers I wrote them for MACH2.5. this is a closely related OS and I was running it on the same hardware (in fact, the same MACHINE) performance under 386bsd was always considerably less than performance under mach 2.5, on the same PC. This is basically an artifact of the newness of the vm and io systems within 386bsd and derivatives. Work is underway to rebuild these systems, under both NetBSD and FreeBSD (no, it's not a duplication, both groups share info) I expect that within the next 6 months there will be great improvements in filesystem throughput. Don't blame bill, or the people who did the vm port.. it's just new code. it needs a good shakedown and it is getting it. things will improve. The big thing to remember is that until 0.1, the emphasis was on just getting it running. Now that it seems to run with some reliablility, we can go back an look at what is going on inside. julian ------------------------------ From: s2119784@cse.unsw.edu.au (Graham Hubert Freeman) Subject: Re: Can you port Linux to my Refrigerator? Reply-To: s2119784@cse.unsw.edu.au (Graham Hubert Freeman) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 09:20:01 GMT In article quinlan@spectrum.cs.bucknell.edu writes: >You know, I think that Linux should be ported to my refrigerator. I >mean, it already has many built in features similar to Unix and I >think that these facts should make a port simple. > > o Hierarchical structure, i.e. old stuff goes in back, I even have > to defragment it whenever something starts to smell > > o Electrical wiring (maybe in the future even this won't be needed!) > > o Multi-user interface (I can use the freezer and someone else can > access the rest without any device conflicts) > > o I heard a rumour that a beta version already exists for toasters > so surely someone must be working on a refrigerator version. > > o It even has built-in power management (I heard the bulb > turns off whenever I shut the door) that is only just staring to > be used in typical personal computers. > >And most important, almost everyone has a refrigerator lying around >that I believe needs to be running Linux to bring them up to par with >... well, my 386. Doesn't this make you mad! - why should Unix be >restricted to people with computers? > >If anyone knows where I can find someone else wanting to port Linux to >refrigerators, please mail me so we can start work right away! sounds good. If we're going to see Windows on your Microwave, why not Linux on your Fridge? :-) >Back to reality. > >This "port Linux to everything thing phenomenon" is rather silly. Why >on Earth would you want to port it to anything nobody uses anymore? I >don't want to know how slow any Unix would run on my Commodore 128 >(yes I still have a working one). I know that we aren't all made of >gold, but 386's are dirt cheap these days. > >Ian, if you are reading this, please add a "No, Linux is not being >ported to your refrigerator" to the daily-posting, if it isn't already >there. > >Dan > Agreed. Graham the Happy Scum aka Graham H Freeman +-------~; 2119784@cs.unsw.oz.au * You're free enough to do nothing |Uni of / ,-Grudnuk demand Sustenance! Funk is its own reward! HOYA!- |NSW->*' `==Linux is Doovy==Hunners are Groovy!==Qbex Onvg==Albury-->`~`*./ ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Activists-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux) via: Internet: Linux-Activists@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux tupac-amaru.informatik.rwth-aachen.de pub/msdos/replace The current version of Linux is 0.99pl9 released on April 23, 1993 End of Linux-Activists Digest ******************************