From: Digestifier To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Fri, 24 Sep 93 10:13:09 EDT Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #257 Linux-Activists Digest #257, Volume #6 Fri, 24 Sep 93 10:13:09 EDT Contents: f90 (Eildert Groeneveld) 3 Problems with Linux. Please Help! (levinson@vax.sonoma.edu) Re: recompile kernel? (levinson@vax.sonoma.edu) Re: SLS/Slackware/What? (Brett Person) WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux (Jesper Honig Spring) Compiling Linux ( Xavier Juvigny) Re: WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux (Steef S.G. de Bruijn) SCSI AHA 1542C boot Prob. solved (Johnnie Walker) Re: Compiling Linux (Fritz Ganter) Re: WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux (Ole Sandum) Re: Appointment book under X ? (Martin Koch) Common Lisp on 486 machines? (Tomohiro Shibata) Re: minicom 4g (Danny ter Haar) Re: How does Linux compare to SUN IPC? (Warner Losh) Re: Got trouble: Linux doesn't see UltraStor SCSI adaptor (Warner Losh) Re: SLS/Slackware/What? (Louis J. LaBash Jr.) Re: Setting up user accts. (Lars Wirzenius) Re: Setting active partition on second hard drive (Lars Wirzenius) Re: Compiling Linux (Lars Wirzenius) A DOS partition question... (John Banghart) Re: WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux (Mark A. Davis) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eildert Groeneveld Subject: f90 Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 07:19:25 GMT Does anyone know of a fortran 90 compiler that runs under Linux? Comments would be appreciated. Eildert Groeneveld ------------------------------ Subject: 3 Problems with Linux. Please Help! From: levinson@vax.sonoma.edu Date: 23 Sep 93 21:13:19 -0800 I have a few problems. 1) First of all, I have .99pl12. I notice sometimes my keyboard locks on boot up. I never had this problem on .99pl11 or less. I have tried to recompile the kernel with both NUMLOCK on and NUMLOCK off, but with the same problem. Pressing the numlock and/or scroll lock keys does not toggle the lamps, so, this leads me to believe it is some kind of driver/initialize problem. I have tried different keymaps, but the keymaps would not matter since the keyboard is not being recognized. This happens regardless on if I use LILO or the standard raw boot image on a floppy. 2) Minicom- The version that comes with SLS1.01 has some problems. Pop up windows leave strange characters on the screen when they disappear. The VT100 emmulation is not very good. There are no linefeeds, and when I do a ^A A to turn linefeeds on, stuff comes out double spaced. When I try to recompile the distribution for MINICOM on sunsite:/pub/linux... it compiles, but when I run it, I get a Segmentation Fault and it dumps the core. Is PCOMM any better? 3) Someone mentioned this before, but I will bring it up since I think it needs looking into by the developers of Linux. Compiling is very irratic. Sometimes I get linker failures, sometimes I get compiler errors, but when I recompile even without rebooting, everything compiles correctly. There may be something wrong with memory management, or the compiler itself, or maybe even a library entry. If anyone has any information on how I can remedy any of these problems, please write private-email. I will definately try them and post a report when I get it fixed. -- Eric Levinson rcisnet2!root@moon.nbn.com | Home computer (UUCP) levinson@vax.sonoma.edu | Vax I can also be reached on my BBS system, Color Galaxy Milky Way (415) 883-0696 ------------------------------ Subject: Re: recompile kernel? From: levinson@vax.sonoma.edu Date: 23 Sep 93 21:00:31 -0800 In article <27qe43$hhn@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>, mitchell@sosc1.sosc.osshe.edu writes: > I'm having problems with a com port and I suspect that the autoprobing > for my 3c503 card may be resulting in an irq conflict. I get a > spurious interrupt message after reboot and I can't setserial or stty -a > cua1 or ttyS1. So I fixed the base address and irq for the 3c503 card > in the net/inet/CONFIG file to 0x250 and irq5. > > My question is: Do I have to recompile the entire kernel to implement > this change? > > I've been having problems with SLIP too and read in the NET-2-FAQ that > the problem could be caused by compression. So I deleted the compression > flag in the CONFIG file and recompiled...(it didn't fix the problem) but > again, do I have to recompile the kernel? Since it takes about > 1 1/2 hours to do (on a 386/25), it takes a little longer to hack a > fix. :-0 > > Thanks! > Stu 1-1/2 hours? I have a 386SX/20 with 5 MB memory. It does take a very long time if I don't use a swap file. I set up a 4 MB swap file and it takes about 30 minutes. You still have to run make in /linux, however if all your other object files are already compiled, it will see a newer date for the config file than the net object, and only recompile net. For everything else, it wont need to recompile and it should say that everything is up to date. Everything will have to be re-linked, but that does not take much time. -- Eric Levinson rcisnet2!root@moon.nbn.com | Home computer (UUCP) levinson@vax.sonoma.edu | Vax I can also be reached on my BBS system, Color Galaxy Milky Way (415) 883-0696 ------------------------------ From: person@plains.NoDak.edu (Brett Person) Subject: Re: SLS/Slackware/What? Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 07:59:51 GMT In article <2uLBac2w165w@works.uucp> ferret@works.uucp (Dave Ferret) writes: >Pardon me, I just got here. > >I've only heard of the SLS release, is Slackware another packaged >release, or what? How many others than SLS are there? Yes. It is another BETTER package. Slackware's maintainer is much more responsive to updates and general support than the SLS people are. I think this is because SLS is really intended for sale as a commercial product. The SLS betas seem to just be proof-or-concept type things. They work, but you have to be pretty good at unix in general to get functional use out of them. There are many bugs and inconsistancies in SLS. The man pages could stand some real work, There are many duplicate executables in /bin /sr/bin and elsewhere. There are also duplicate man pages. SLS X is difficult to get running on even supported video cards. -- Brett Person Guest Account North Dakota State University person@plains.nodak.edu || person@plains.bitnet ------------------------------ From: spring@diku.dk (Jesper Honig Spring) Subject: WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 08:31:41 GMT Hello, Does anyone know of a wordprocessor (besides TEX, if one might call it a wordprocessor) a la WordPerfect for Linux. Thanks in advance, Please (also) email me. -- =============================================================================== jesper honig spring department of computer science spring@diku.dk university of copenhagen, denmark =============================================================================== ------------------------------ From: juvigny@news.jussieu.fr ( Xavier Juvigny ) Subject: Compiling Linux Date: 24 Sep 1993 09:01:24 GMT I want to compile Linux but I have a big problem ... my makefiles are for UNIX system! I have only Borland C++ 3.0 and GNU C (djgpp) to compile my sources. I want to know how to compile LINUX with GNU C or with Borland C++ 3.0. Thanks to answer me. JUVIGNY Xavier EMail: juvigny@ann.jussieu.fr ------------------------------ From: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl (Steef S.G. de Bruijn) Subject: Re: WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 09:15:23 GMT In article <1993Sep24.083141.23376@odin.diku.dk>, spring@diku.dk (Jesper Honig Spring) writes: |> Hello, |> |> Does anyone know of a wordprocessor (besides TEX, if one might call it a wordprocessor) TeX isn't a wordprocessor, it's a TYPESETTER, and a very good one! Besides, if you like learning Emacs/Vi and lots of utilities lying around linux, this combination gives you the ULTIMATE wordprocessor! |> a la WordPerfect for Linux. Wordperfert sucks (it's no misspell!) |> |> Thanks in advance, Sorry, no offence |> |> Please (also) email me. |> |> -- |> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |> jesper honig spring department of computer science |> spring@diku.dk university of copenhagen, denmark |> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steef ------------------------------ From: koellner@galaxy.fernuni-hagen.de (Johnnie Walker) Subject: SCSI AHA 1542C boot Prob. solved Date: 24 Sep 1993 09:51:06 GMT Hi! Thanks to everyone who answered my request. I tried again yesterday, and it looks like I just forgot to reconfigure the Computers Chipset Setup (Shadow ROMs, Cacheable Areas) after installing the adapter card. At least, I changed them and now it works. -- Peter Koellner Student of Idiocy at the university of Dortmund EMAIL:koellner@fernuni-hagen.de ------------------------------ From: ganter@fvkmapc02.tu-graz.ac.at (Fritz Ganter) Subject: Re: Compiling Linux Date: 24 Sep 1993 11:15:55 GMT Xavier Juvigny (juvigny@news.jussieu.fr) wrote: : I want to compile Linux but I have a big problem ... : my makefiles are for UNIX system! I have only Borland C++ 3.0 : and GNU C (djgpp) to compile my sources. : I want to know how to compile LINUX with GNU C or with : Borland C++ 3.0. : Thanks to answer me. : JUVIGNY Xavier EMail: juvigny@ann.jussieu.fr oh, I don't know if I understand you, do you want to compile Linux under ***MS-DOS*** ?????? I use Linux at home and at work for 6 months, and I mean that Linux is a Unix-System, isn't it? And you would really compile it under DOS? Don't you know, that, if you start Linux on DOS (ROTFL), it deletes all files with the string 'Microsoft' in it? Nice idea, very nice. But you can compile (and link!) Linux better under Linux. So, first install Linux, then enjoy it, delete your DOS-partition, *then* you can compile Linux :-)) Fritz -- Fritz Ganter Graz University of Technology, Austria Email: ganter@fvkmapc02.tu-graz.ac.at, ganter@fvkmads02.tu-graz.ac.at HAM-Radio: OE6FAD@OE6XYG.AUT.EU, OE6FAD@OE6FAD.AMPR.ORG Phone: +43 316 873-7222 (Office), +43 316 663243 (home) ********** Linux... try it, use it, love it. ************ ------------------------------ From: os@idfs4.uucp (Ole Sandum) Subject: Re: WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 11:03:17 GMT spring@diku.dk (Jesper Honig Spring) writes: >Does anyone know of a wordprocessor (besides TEX, if one might call it a wordprocessor) >a la WordPerfect for Linux. Be careful. Terming WP as a wordprocessor might just start a holywar :-) -- ========================== Ole Sandum, ------------------------------ From: nick@kiew.uni-paderborn.de (Martin Koch) Subject: Re: Appointment book under X ? Date: 24 Sep 1993 13:58:05 +0200 dpwc@dprmpt.UUCP (Weihan Chang) writes: >Is there a organizer/appointment book type program under X window >for Linux ? I prefer XCalentool. It is great! Mail for schedules etc. >Thanks. >-- >******************************************************* >* Weihan Chang : (301) 622-0900 ext 305 * >* E-mail address : dpwc@dataprompt.com * >******************************************************* --- Bye ;-) Martin Koch --- email : nick@uni-paderborn.de Bodelschwinghstraße 8 --- phone : +49 5251 31104 Q D-33102 Paderborn Germany ==============Escape the Gates of Hell, use Linux========== Everyone's a foreigner - nearly everywhere ------------------------------ From: tom@jsk.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Tomohiro Shibata) Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.software,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.lang.lisp Subject: Common Lisp on 486 machines? Date: 24 Sep 1993 11:31:20 GMT Hi, everybody. I want to use Common Lisp such as ExCL, KCL and AKCL. Is there anyone out who can use such Lisp on 486 machines, and on which OS do they run? I will appreciate any information. -- ================================ Tomohiro Shibata (email: tom@jsk.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp) Department of Mechano-informatics, University of Tokyo; Japan ------------------------------ From: danny@caution.cistron.nl.mugnet.org (Danny ter Haar) Subject: Re: minicom 4g Date: Fri, 24 Sep 93 09:17:53 In article umlin000@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Zhuo Er Lin) writes: > >It is not in sunsite: /pub/Linux/Incoming. Where did you put it in? >I also check apps/comm, it contains the 1.4 b version, dated 1992. > It is now, i'va put it there on 23 sep 18:20 The first one was corrupted somehow ... I found a yell in the new-sunsite listing stating the tar was corrupted. That's why it was probably put away ... _____ Danny -- _______________________________________________________________________ Danny ter Haar or PHILIPS DCC: combining the disadvantages of cd-rom's and tapes ------------------------------ From: imp@boulder.parcplace.com (Warner Losh) Subject: Re: How does Linux compare to SUN IPC? Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 04:29:32 GMT In article steve@interaccess.com (Steve Norton) writes: >[[sparcs are junk]] We have a couple of older Sparc systems that compile OI and OB faster than the 32M 486-33. The Sparc system has 96M of memory and 3 Solbourne Series 5E's and very fast disks. I've seen SCSI-2 disks blow the doors off those old, slow klunky IDE drives. I've also seen IPI drive blow them both away. Warner -- Warner Losh imp@boulder.parcplace.COM ParcPlace Boulder I've almost finished my brute force solution to subtlety. ------------------------------ From: imp@boulder.parcplace.com (Warner Losh) Subject: Re: Got trouble: Linux doesn't see UltraStor SCSI adaptor Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 15:55:35 GMT In article <27qs4p$r96@inxs.concert.net> ctwilson@rock.concert.net (Charles T Wilson -- Personal Account) writes: >If MCC doesn't see your adapter with default factory settings (which I'm >using as I type [except for the transfer speed, which I upped a bit]), >then you should ask for help from one of the scsi gurus again, 'cause >I'm not one of them. The SLS release requires that you set the I/O mailbox port to 0x340. At least that's what my 34F requires. All this because the autoprobe code doesn't to know when a range of ports is in use to not use them for other cards. Warner -- Warner Losh imp@boulder.parcplace.COM ParcPlace Boulder I've almost finished my brute force solution to subtlety. ------------------------------ From: lou@minuet.siue.edu (Louis J. LaBash Jr. ) Subject: Re: SLS/Slackware/What? Date: 24 Sep 1993 08:53:09 -0400 Reply-To: lou@minuet.siue.edu (Louis J. LaBash Jr. ) |From: byron@cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff) |>In article <2uLBac2w165w@works.uucp>, Dave Ferret wrote: |>Pardon me, I just got here. [deleted...]] |Personally I've used SLS and Slackware. I prefer Slackware because it has |many less bugs (at least in my case). ^^^^ ^^^^ Obviously, this person has never used the MCC-interim package :-). Louis-ljl- ------------------------------ From: wirzeniu@kruuna.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius) Subject: Re: Setting up user accts. Date: 24 Sep 1993 16:03:14 +0300 bilan@cps.msu.edu (Thomas J Bilan) writes: > Which works fine for me but when the users log in they don't have write > permission to their own directory. Are you sure it is their home directory that is the problem? What exactly is the error message, and what exactly was it they were trying to do? One possibility would be that somehow / or /home (assuming their homedirectory was /home/name) did not have execute permission for other or group. Do ls -ld / /home /home/name to see exactly what the permissions are. > chmod 777 name This should certainly allow the owner and anyone else to have write permission to the directory. -- Lars.Wirzenius@helsinki.fi (finger wirzeniu@klaava.helsinki.fi) It doesn't matter who you are, it's what you do that takes you far. --Madonna ------------------------------ From: wirzeniu@kruuna.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Setting active partition on second hard drive Date: 24 Sep 1993 16:11:33 +0300 [ Newsgroups line trimmed and folloups redirected to c.o.l.help. Please do not crosspost between the Linux groups unnecessarily. ] reczek@acsu.buffalo.edu (Tim Reczek) writes: > I have two hard drives: Westen Digital 340MB as master, Maxtor 130MB > as slave. I was considering using the 130MB dive to run linux on while > leaving the 340MB drive solely DOS. > > Question: Can I make the linux partion on the 2nd drive the active partition? I think these are your options: a) boot Linux from floppy b) boot Linux with bootlin (or whatever), a DOS program that boots Linux (i.e., you first boot DOS, and then use bootlin to boot Linux) It is possible that the following might also work. I have neither experience nor documentation (at the moment): c) you install LILO as the master boot record on your first hard drive and tell that to load Linux from the second hard drive -- Lars.Wirzenius@helsinki.fi (finger wirzeniu@klaava.helsinki.fi) It doesn't matter who you are, it's what you do that takes you far. --Madonna ------------------------------ From: wirzeniu@kruuna.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius) Subject: Re: Compiling Linux Date: 24 Sep 1993 16:17:09 +0300 juvigny@news.jussieu.fr ( Xavier Juvigny ) writes: > I want to compile Linux but I have a big problem ... > my makefiles are for UNIX system! Not to mention that so are the filenames and some of the utilities that you need to run... Linux is not really meant to be compiled under DOS (cross-compilation from another Unix system is easier to manage, though). You probably want to install Linux (from one of the many installation kits that are available) and compile it under itself. -- Lars.Wirzenius@helsinki.fi (finger wirzeniu@klaava.helsinki.fi) It doesn't matter who you are, it's what you do that takes you far. --Madonna ------------------------------ From: john@midget.towson.edu (John Banghart) Subject: A DOS partition question... Date: 24 Sep 1993 13:45:17 GMT Let's say I partition my HD 110meg for linux, 10meg sway, and 50meg for DOS. Can I run DoubleSpace(which is what I have, so no flames about stacker being better) on my DOS partition only? Also, is there a way to partition my drive without having to delete everything on it in the process? -John ------------------------------ From: mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) Subject: Re: WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 13:04:03 GMT os@idfs4.uucp (Ole Sandum) writes: >spring@diku.dk (Jesper Honig Spring) writes: >>Does anyone know of a wordprocessor (besides TEX, if one might call it a wordprocessor) >>a la WordPerfect for Linux. >Be careful. Terming WP as a wordprocessor might >just start a holywar :-) I'm sure you just HAD to tell us that. Try to keep your unproductive and flame-bait opinions to yourself. I think we are all growing very tired of these same arguments over, and over. -- /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk, VA (804)-461-5001x431 | | Sys.Administrator| Computer Services | mark@taylor.wyvern.com .uucp | \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/ ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Activists-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux) via: Internet: Linux-Activists@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux tupac-amaru.informatik.rwth-aachen.de pub/msdos/replace The current version of Linux is 0.99pl9 released on April 23, 1993 End of Linux-Activists Digest ******************************