From: Digestifier To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Wed, 29 Sep 93 10:13:11 EDT Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #273 Linux-Activists Digest #273, Volume #6 Wed, 29 Sep 93 10:13:11 EDT Contents: Term Binaries needed (bryan k williams) Re: DigiBoard to support Linux!!!! (David Jeske) Wanted!!! HP emulation (fnrjh@aurora.alaska.edu) Re: [HELP] Problems with Slackware Linux and 'hostname' (Steef S.G. de Bruijn) p2c for linux - sources where? (Philip Rhoades) Re: SoftLanding Message (Terror on Tape) WHAT HAVE I TO DO TO SET UP THE .PROFILE (belmouh@idefix.ensmp.fr (Rachid BELMOUHOUB )) Re: term? (R. Stewart Ellis) Problem with cat and tty (Stefan Karrmann) Re: Term Binaries needed (R. Stewart Ellis) Re: WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux (Mark A. Davis) Read/Write CD drivers for Linux? (snail@lsl.co.uk) New 209 Meg Seagate Hard Drives $145.00 NICE PRICE (Dr. John V. Jaskolski) WHERE IS THE FILE .Xresources In the SLS 1.03 (belmouh@idefix.ensmp.fr (Rachid BELMOUHOUB )) Installing LINUX together with OS/2 and MSDOG (Heinrich "Heiner" Hellmann) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: uk02183@nx20.mik.uky.edu (bryan k williams) Subject: Term Binaries needed Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 07:18:12 GMT I need to get binaries for term for a sun 4 target machine. I have term 1.07 running on Linux and on my campus NeXT and I'm pleased as punch about the remote Xwindows capability but the real reason I started tweaking with term to begin with was to use it on our sun server. As best I can tell it is a sun 4, as the compiler flags seem to indicate when I attempt to make term and related files on the Sun. (never laid eyes on the real machine). BUT for some reason the makefile pukes all over me on the sun, it seems that it has a pre-ansi version of 'cc' - (is that likely??) at least it seems unable to make heads or tails of ANSI-style prototypes. Am I possibly overlooking a flag there? Anyway, I need one of two things: term binaries built for Sun 4, or, a kick in the head with the correct CCFLAGS to make the binaries. Any help earns my eternal gratitude.... ------------------------------ From: jeske@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (David Jeske) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: DigiBoard to support Linux!!!! Date: 29 Sep 1993 08:11:41 GMT greg@serveme.chi.il.us (Gregory Gulik) writes: >I guess all that nagging worked!!!! >I just got off the phone with tech support at DigiBoard, and I >was told they will have Linux drivers available for their products >in about 8 weeks!!!! Well, I decided to write a "Intelligent Board Driver" For Linux 4 days ago, today As of today the board configuration and initilization works , as well as input and output. No DCD/DTR ioctl calls are supported yet, but they will be. I'm expecting to release source to the drivers as "alpha" withen 2 weeks. These are initially going to support "Digboard PC/8i, PC/16i, PC/8e,PC/16e, PC/8m, PC/16m" but soon after "Star Gate ACL" will be supported, as well as Digiboard COM/xx products. Others are on the list. I was online on IRC for 2 hours with the Driver, and it seemed to hold up to the "non-demanding" but "constant" character stream rather well. It's coming along nicely, and the package I'm writing is designed to allow easy addition of different types of serial boards, and have it all be dynamically allocated (from the minor numbers) at run time. -- David Jeske(N9LCA)/CompEng Student at Univ of Ill at Cham-Urbana/NeXT Programmer CoCreator of the GTalk Chat Software System - online at (708)998-0008 Mail: jeske@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu NeXTMail: jeske@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu jeske@atlantis.eid.anl.gov Talk: jeske@armageddon.slip.uiuc.edu ------------------------------ From: fnrjh@aurora.alaska.edu Subject: Wanted!!! HP emulation Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 09:16:07 GMT Wanted!!! Want to know how to set Linux xterm to imitate a HP700/92 or 96 terminal. Or want to know what package can do this. I am using Linux SLACKware version .9PL13Alfa Was fighting with SLS and tried the Slackware version. SLS has better install but I like the Slackware version MUCH better when it comes to use. I have my linux box on the network and now telnet to my HP300 mini computer to do my work. I also goto my VAX as a VT100. Unfortionatly the 3000 wants hp terminal emulation. what I want to do is make it look to the 3000 as if I am on a hp terminal. I want it to look right on my end to. Right now if I use the VT100 it hanges if I use any HP only stuff. Can I set the termcap for xterm to use only hp emulation and have xterm emulate a hp term. Then in another session use vt100??? email to: Robert J. Hale III FNRJH@Aurora.alaska.edu ------------------------------ From: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl (Steef S.G. de Bruijn) Subject: Re: [HELP] Problems with Slackware Linux and 'hostname' Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 08:26:19 GMT In article <1993Sep28.182623.10071@bnr.ca>, Ian Clysdale writes: |> Recently I set up Slackware Linux running on my PC, and have it |> pretty much running well right now, except for one small problem -- |> it refuses to define my hostname; it came defined as 'darkstar' in |> the distribution that I got, and refuses to change. |> I did a little reading, and found out that apparently the command |> "hostname -S elanon" should change the name of my system to "elanon", |> but whenever I do that, it responds with "unknown system "elanon" ". |> Even when I tried hostname -S darkstar for a test, it still responded |> 'unknown system "darkstar" '. |> If anyone can help, please reply via e-mail to |> ac559@freenet.carleton.ca Thank you very much. |> |> -Ian! |> |> Ian Clysdale | | One .sig file to rule them all, |> Co-Op, Bell Northern Research | | One .sig file to find them, |> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. | | One .sig file to bring them all, |> #include | | And in the memory bind them. I presume you did install Slackware 1.0.3. There exist two files in /conf/net. One of them defines the hostname. In /etc there are several more files containing the hostname darkstar. Do a grep -l darkstar /etc/* and you get a list of files containing it. Just edit these files and fill in your desired hostname. I did it and i'm happily using my machine `hurricane' for about a week now. Good luck, althouh i suggest people SEARCH first before posting this kind of articles... Steef E-Mail: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl ------------------------------ From: philipr@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Philip Rhoades) Subject: p2c for linux - sources where? Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 08:06:27 GMT Where can I find the sources for p2c (for linux)? There is a change I need to make to hopefully fix a problem with a p->c conversion that I want to do - LL1, a parser generator. Anyone know where they are? - I've looked on all the obvious hosts. Thanks. -- Philip Rhoades * First Year Biology * University of Sydney phil@biox.bio.su.OZ.AU (best) or philipr@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU Phone: +61 2 692 2765 * Fax: +61 2 692 2175 ------------------------------ From: jmadison@etsun.tech.iupui.edu (Terror on Tape) Subject: Re: SoftLanding Message Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 09:20:54 GMT In article <28akv1$8ee@hpscit.sc.hp.com> wsk@mayfield.hp.com (William S. Kaster) writes: >Yes. getty displays /etc/issue. oh, also, go ahead & edit /etc/motd for the message you get after you log in. (don't know what calls it, tho') -jonM >-- >----- >William S. Kaster >email: wsk@mayfield.hp.com > -- jmadison@etsun.tech.iupui.edu <>< DJ.AllStar get Linux OS, it's dope! it's free! it's UNIX! ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc.help,comp.os.linux From: belmouh@idefix.ensmp.fr (Rachid BELMOUHOUB ) Subject: WHAT HAVE I TO DO TO SET UP THE .PROFILE Date: Wed, 29 Sep 93 12:32:06 GMT Hi, I have succefully now installed the SLS 1.03 release, on my 486DX50 clone, I went through the Linux user's guide in search of informations about how to configur my system but haven't found lot of things about the file .profile I tryed to set the PATH environment variable to run X11, I did like in my .cshrc file on a sun at work but after sourcing the .profile, I have run printenv and none of the changes I've made was taken, I tryed unset PATH and I had an answer that the systen can't unset PATH. Is there any document that explains how to do this, or any one here that could help me. Thanx Rachid ================================================================================ Rachid BELMOUHOUB ( rsm pour les amis ) E-mail:belmouh@cig.ensmp.fr Ecole des Mines de Paris Centre d'Informatique Geologique "si parvenir aupres de l'ami, est impossible. | "A Woman needs a man like L'autre ami se devra de mourir, le cherchant" | fish needs a bicycle" U2 :-) ( Le Gulistan, Saadi poete et soufi Persan) | ------------------------------ From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: term? Date: 29 Sep 93 12:54:21 GMT cwil4@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Craig Ashcroft Willmott ) writes: >In ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) writes: >>This is like saying a Ferrari is a wagon (they both have wheels and someone >>can ride in both). Term allows you to set up a socket over a modem [delete] >I'm also a newcomer to the Linux world, I've had it installed for five >days now, and a lot of that has been spent on Kermit and term. >What I want to do is attach a socket at uni to a socket on linux, or >more specifically, to a login prompt. >I've got term going fine, so that I can trsh back and forth. Then I tried >to use tredir to connect the sockets setup. So from uni I did > tredir 12345 23 >thinking that this should attach the remote port 12345 to my telnet >port. Also I tried 12345 by itself, hoping it would just create a login. >When trying to connect from uni, (telnet 12345) I get >a connection but then nothing happens. Is there something wrong with >my telnet connection? It works just fine when I telnet localhost 23 >from home. Here is the screen output from my doing what you are trying. I am at home on solo. The remote machine is nova, my campus Sun 4/690 running SunOS 4.1.3. solo_bstew> trsh Remote: term 1.0.7 tty /dev/ttype. Exec /faculty/ellis/bin/sun4/tcsh In cshrc resize: No `co#' [1](ttype)_nova_ellis_~/> tredir 2323 23 Redirecting 2323 to 23 [2](ttype)_nova_ellis_~/> telnet nova 2323 Trying 192.138.137.2 ... Connected to nova. Escape character is '^]'. UNIX(r) System V Release 4.0 (solo) login: bstew Last login: Sun Sep 26 19:33:48 on console solo:/usr2/stew> Here I am tearing down the connection: [4](ttype)_nova_ellis_~/> ps -auxww |grep tredir ellis 20150 0.0 0.2 32 204 pe S 08:57 0:00 grep tredir ellis 20023 0.0 0.0 32 0 ? IW 08:52 0:00 tredir 2323 23 [5](ttype)_nova_ellis_~/> kill -9 20023 [6](ttype)_nova_ellis_~/> ps -auxww | grep tredir ellis 20158 0.0 0.2 32 204 pe S 08:58 0:00 grep tredir [7](ttype)_nova_ellis_~/> exit solo_bstew> tredir scare the crap out of me. >Also, when I trsh back into linux, some characters (in particular line >feeds) don't get through. According to the man, I can set up my >~.term/termrc file to escape these characters. How do you do that? >Is termrc executed before an rsh is set up or what? >Also, after I run tredir, my trsh dies (freezes). Is this supposed >to happen? There are a couple of gotchas: 1) Make sure the termrc on one and only one end has the word remote in it. 2) Run linecheck and put the recommendations on both ends (most people say just the other end, but it does not hurt to be conservative here). If linecheck does not tell you to escape CR/LF then look at your inittab, gettytab or wherever you set up logins on Linux. Follow the examples in the includede termrc. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,News and sendmail maintainer, all around hack /________/ / / / / ------------------------------ From: karrman@math.uni-muenster.de (Stefan Karrmann) Subject: Problem with cat and tty Date: 29 Sep 1993 12:50:15 GMT Reply-To: karrman@math.uni-muenster.de I have linux 0.99pl4-1. When I execute cat /usr/bin/emacs (or some -not all- binary files) the output of the tty are ridiculous characters. I cannot change this behavior. What has happened ? Thanks, Karrmann ------------------------------ From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Term Binaries needed Date: 29 Sep 93 13:13:32 GMT uk02183@nx20.mik.uky.edu (bryan k williams) writes: >I need to get binaries for term for a sun 4 target machine. I >have term 1.07 running on Linux and on my campus NeXT and I'm pleased as >punch about the remote Xwindows capability but the real reason I started >tweaking with term to begin with was to use it on our sun server. As >best I can tell it is a sun 4, as the compiler flags seem to indicate when >I attempt to make term and related files on the Sun. (never laid eyes >on the real machine). BUT for some reason the makefile pukes all over me >on the sun, it seems that it has a pre-ansi version of 'cc' - (is that likely??) >at least it seems unable to make heads or tails of ANSI-style prototypes. >Am I possibly overlooking a flag there? Anyway, I need one of two things: > >term binaries built for Sun 4, or, >a kick in the head with the correct CCFLAGS to make the binaries. The real C standard is still K&R, 1st edition. Lots of UNIX boxes, including Suns running SunOS 4.1.3 , do not have ANSI support. Many sites have installed GCC to get ANSI support. You might set CC=gcc in the top-level Makefile. If you are running Linux then RUN don't walk to sunsite.unc.edu and look at all the wonderful linux goodies. Follow your nose down to Linux/apps/comm/term and you will find Sun4 binaries. >Any help earns my eternal gratitude.... -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,News and sendmail maintainer, all around hack /________/ / / / / ------------------------------ From: mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) Subject: Re: WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 12:43:44 GMT ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) writes: >mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) writes: >>snail@lsl.co.uk writes: >>>In article <1993Sep24.111523@cs.utwente.nl>, debruijn@cs.utwente.nl (Steef S.G. de Bruijn) writes: >>>> |> a la WordPerfect for Linux. >>>I think he means Framemaker for Linux, or 'Word for Linux' :-) >>>> Wordperfert sucks (it's no misspell!) >>>Don't u mean worddefect, as its know here. We have it one the Vomit Making >>>System. >>Kindly keep your personal and unproductive comments to your self. We find >>the software to be extremely productive, flexible, cost effective, and >>open. Perhaps you two should tell us which wordprocessors you use and like >>so others can say yours suck. >>Also, perhaps you should enlighten us as >>to a better wordprocessing system under Unix? Framemaker isn't bad, but >>TERRIBLY expensive. >Starting with the recognition that WP is available on the widest range of >systems, which gives it a tremendous headstart, it has a number of serious >problems. All software has its share of problems. > I have seen signed postings from a guy who used truss on SVR4 to >observe wp opening a config file 500 times while it was starting up. This >is consistent with the startup speed under X. All X software with the features and complexity of WordPerfect for X Windows will take that long to load. Did you know that the current version of Corel for X Windows takes a full 22 seconds to load???? Did you know that that puts it more than DOUBLE the time of WP????? And your complaint is only on the X version. This does not hold water at all on the text version...... > Also WP fails totally to >understand how X and UNIX printspooling are supposed to work. If you bring >up a dialog box on the X version and then dismiss the box, it repaints the >entire screen a couple of times rather than restoring the save-under >region. Then you have the very first release of the software. Those type of things have been fixed in the 4/93 release which they will gladly give you for free (although some of those things still remain). This is WordPerfects **FIRST** piece of X Windows software. It is going to take some time to get it right. > This is a dismal failure and really gets in the way of trying to >use it. Three of us here with a total of over 20 years of UNIX experience >still cannot get WP to print to all of our lpd printers after dozens of >hours of effort. We have over 40 printers in use with over 6 models. We have never had ANY printing problems. (Use "Other Spooler", works just fine here for 1 year). > That has been real productive. I now have the port on all >my printers set to disk. At least I can print from the shell after I save >them. You are doing something wrong. >The one thing that makes me support WP is that I can use it over a terminal >and trade docs with the Windoze or DOS or VMeSs users. There are SCORES of advantages to using WordPerfect besides that The pricing is very reasonable compared to other packages. They have many versions for many platforms. They include **BOTH** a text and X version for Unix. They support every printer on the planet. It is a very functional and robust wordprocessor. They have very good technical support (AND AT NO CHARGE). Etc.... My hat goes off to WordPerfect Corp. for being a long-term supporter of Unix. Their text version is EXTREMELY stable and yes, they are having a few problems with their FIRST X piece of software; of which 3/4 of the problems were corrected with the 4/93 release. -- /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk, VA (804)-461-5001x431 | | Sys.Administrator| Computer Services | mark@taylor.wyvern.com .uucp | \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/ ------------------------------ From: snail@lsl.co.uk Subject: Read/Write CD drivers for Linux? Date: 29 Sep 93 13:59:29 +0100 Hi, I'm haven't got a PC yet, but am thinking of doing so, in order to run Linux and DOS and maybe NT too. What I'd like to know, is are there any Linux drivers that support read/write CDs? Can these CD rom drives read ordinary CDs (I think it sounds a silly question, but you never know...). How does a read/write CD drive compare in access time/transfer rate to a CD Rom drive? [I'm thinking of using the CD drive to act as a backup store, rather than use a tape or Worm drive. Of course I'd also like to use the Cd drive to install Linux...] Cheers for any answers. -- snail@lsl.co.uk "If I were to read, much less to answer all the attacks made on me, this shop might as well be closed for any other business. I do the very best I know how - the very best I can; and I mean to keep doing so until the end. If the end brings me out alright, what is said against me won't amount to anything. If the end brings me out wrong, ten angels swearing I was right would make no difference." [Abraham Lincoln, reported by Francis B Carpenter]. ------------------------------ From: jvj@yorkshire.com (Dr. John V. Jaskolski) Subject: New 209 Meg Seagate Hard Drives $145.00 NICE PRICE Reply-To: jvj@yorkshire.com Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 14:39:53 GMT I have a few *BRAND NEW* 209 Meg Seagate SCSI hard drives. These drives went for $245.00 regularly. I will give these 209 Meg drives away to anyone who wants one for $145.00 each. Call me after 5:30 PM Eastern time if you want one. 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Jaskolski jvj@yorkshire.com ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help From: belmouh@idefix.ensmp.fr (Rachid BELMOUHOUB ) Subject: WHERE IS THE FILE .Xresources In the SLS 1.03 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 93 12:43:52 GMT Where can I find the file .Xresources, that is named in the head of the file xnitrc to be at usr/lib/X11/xinit/.Xresources, I have search this file in this directory, and with find from / with no succes, when I run startx with the output file I have this message at the end of the output file: "xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): unexpected signal 13" and suspect this file to be .Xresources. any help will be greatly apreciated Rachid ================================================================================ Rachid BELMOUHOUB ( rsm pour les amis ) E-mail:belmouh@cig.ensmp.fr Ecole des Mines de Paris Centre d'Informatique Geologique "si parvenir aupres de l'ami, est impossible. | "A Woman needs a man like L'autre ami se devra de mourir, le cherchant" | fish needs a bicycle" U2 :-) ( Le Gulistan, Saadi poete et soufi Persan) | ------------------------------ From: hhellman@fred.Augsburg.NCR.DEU (Heinrich "Heiner" Hellmann) Subject: Installing LINUX together with OS/2 and MSDOG Date: 29 Sep 93 12:41:58 GMT Reply-To: hhellman@fred.Augsburg.NCR.DEU (Heinrich "Heiner" Hellmann) Hi Netters ... ============== A friend of mine doesn't have Internet access and asked me to post this message (It's propably a FAQ - but I do not have the FAQ posting.) I have only expirience with SV.x.x UNIX so I could not answer his question. He wants to install the following OS software and doesn't want to boot from a floppy: - MSDOG 6.0 without compression - IBM OS/2 2.1 with HPFS filesystem - LINUX 1.02 Can anybody tell me in witch order he must install the OS's and which partitions he has to set active so he can boot any of the 3 OS from HDD ??? Please E-Mail to my Mail-Plus address, because I do not read this newsgroup. I will post a summary to this newsgroup, if there is interest. Thanx in advance ... +----------------------+------------------------------------------------+ | __ __ __ __ | Heinrich Hellmann, UNIX System Administrator | | |__| |__||__| |__| +------------------------------------------------+ | |__|__|__||__|__|__| | Mail-Plus.: Heinrich.Hellmann@Augsburg.NCR.COM | | |__|__|__||__|__|__| | Internet..: hai@greenie.muc.de private | | |__| |__||__| |__| | Subnet....: hai@avirex.abg.sub.org private | | |__| |__||__| |__| | CompuServe: 100111,3347@compuserve.com private | +----------------------+------------------------------------------------+ !!! 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