From: Digestifier To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Sun, 3 Oct 93 10:13:05 EDT Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #282 Linux-Activists Digest #282, Volume #6 Sun, 3 Oct 93 10:13:05 EDT Contents: IN2000 support (Thomas J Bilan) Re: Oakdriver for X (khockenb@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu) Re: Forward: QIC-80 (Christoph Badura) Re: Word Processor for Linux (lout) (Laszlo Herczeg) Re: Word Processor for Linux (lout) (Laszlo Herczeg) OLVWM:miss library Deals on Motif? (Vin Locke) Re: Oakdriver for X (marauder) Troubles with Adaptec 1542B ! (Asif Ebrahim) LILO Default to MSDOS? (levinson@vax.sonoma.edu) Linux Where, Space? (Hasan Diwan) LILO IDE, DOS & EXT2FS (Kenneth P. Persing) ProAudio Spectrum CD Rom problem (Seth Parker) SLS install problems-need help (David J. Dorkin) How to run /etc/lilo/install after kernel rebuild... (Jeff Stern) Re: Smail in 99pl9 (Oliver Duesel) Re: NE-2000 Ethernet cards (Oliver Duesel) term in AIX, HELP..... (Harvard Harding) Re: ProAudio Spectrum CD Rom problem (Drew Eckhardt) INIT hangs on boot (Kevin Matassa) Re: Linux Where, Space? (Kerry Person) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bilan@cps.msu.edu (Thomas J Bilan) Subject: IN2000 support Date: 2 Oct 1993 17:41:49 GMT Has anyone got the IN2000 SCSI card to work with a CD-ROM drive???? Thanks, Tom Bilan -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ $ Department of Death by Engineering ^ Surgeon General's Warning: $ $ Michigan State University ^ Graduate School may cause brain $ $ bilan@cps.msu.edu ^ damage and sporadic loss of hair $ ------------------------------ From: khockenb@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu Subject: Re: Oakdriver for X Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1993 18:50:50 GMT In article , rhochhal@topaz.idbsu.edu (Rick D. Hochhalter) writes: > > Same with me. I have an SVGA card that uses the OAK 077 SVGA chip and > I don't want to have to buy another video card just to be able to use > X on my system. Right now (XFree86 1.3) you can run X mono. Wait till XFree86 2.0 (hopefully end of October) and there should be support for the OAK 067/077 according to the announcement. -Kurt Hockenbury ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.bugs From: bad@flatlin.ka.sub.org (Christoph Badura) Subject: Re: Forward: QIC-80 Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1993 16:59:13 GMT In <1993Sep30.233456.11034@fcom.cc.utah.edu> terry@cs.weber.edu (A Wizard of Earth C) writes: >There are two other (minor) fixes that need to be implemented to complete >the "lowest overhead" scenario. The first is to allocate a minimum of a >32k buffer in kernel space (again, like the Mitsumi driver, an expensive >proposition) to be used by the tape driver, and another 32k buffer as a >user-to-kernel transfer area (if you are willing to block the user process >in the driver, the second area is unnecessary assuming some even factor of >32k as the transfer block size). If you're worried about permanently allocating 32k of memory instead of only when the driver is open, then, by all means, just allocate it when the driver is opened and free it upon close. -- Christoph Badura --- bad@flatlin.ka.sub.org --- +49 721 606137 Personally, I don't care whether someone is cool enough to quote Doug Gwyn--I only care whether Doug Gwyn is cool enough to quote. -- Larry Wall ------------------------------ From: las@whome.uucp (Laszlo Herczeg) Subject: Re: Word Processor for Linux (lout) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1993 17:56:13 GMT LOUT is available on all usenet archives which carry comp.sources.misc . The latest version can be found in volume 38. If you don't know any usenet archives, here is a few: usc.edu /archive/usenet/sources/comp.sources.misc/Volume38 ftp.uu.net /usenet gatekeeper.dec.com ------------------------------ From: las@whome.uucp (Laszlo Herczeg) Subject: Re: Word Processor for Linux (lout) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1993 18:03:32 GMT Peter Mutsaers (muts@compi.hobby.nl) wrote: : >> On 28 Sep 93 12:47:08 GMT, ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) : >> said: : RSE> Since joe, jove and emacs are all insert-mode editors that understand : RSE> ^F,^B,^N,^P,^A and ^E, I would arrange them like: : RSE> vi--elvis-----vile-----------------------joe-------------jove---------emacs : Judging by insert-mode and some keybindings (which can be completely : changed anyways in GNU emacs) I think this view is rather simplistic. : A better arrangement is: : -------GNU-emacs------- : joe-------------jove--- : vi--elvis-----vile----- : GNU-emacs is of an other order than the rest, with its M-x compile, : the Grand Unified Debugger, tags, ange-ftp, complete configurability : and reprogrammability, so that you can emulate any of the editors that : are more down to earth. : Some may think it is nonsense to read mail and news from within an : 'editor', but the same set of keybindings everywhere, and complete : integration with the editor is a great blessing. : -- : _______________________________________________________________ : Peter Mutsaers, Bunnik (Ut), the Netherlands While I do not wish to start an Emacs flame war, I'd just like to say that Joe is highly configurable, and is currently being extended with a macro language which will give it even more functionality. The author of Joe has posted his second version of the extension script interpreter to alt.sources a couple weeks ago, which will allow joe to function in a role similar to EMACS. ------------------------------ From: weiss@maroon.tc.umn.edu () Subject: OLVWM:miss library Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1993 19:35:23 GMT After installing the current slackware release and getting twm to work OK, I have tried to use the installed Open Look olvwm. I get a faulting message saying that library "libolg.so.3" cannot be found. I can't find it on the net anywhere and wonder if I need to link it to some other library. The FAQs I have read don't seem to directly mention this problem. Thanks very much!!! __jeffrey weiss ------------------------------ From: vin@crl.com (Vin Locke) Subject: Deals on Motif? Date: 2 Oct 1993 13:07:26 -0700 I've been checking out deals on Motif for Linux. Metro wants ~$200 US, and I found another place in Unix Review (can't recall the name offhand) that wants ~$175 US. Can anyone come up with a better deal? I'm looking for the development libraries. vin@crl.com ------------------------------ From: marauder@netsys.com (marauder) Subject: Re: Oakdriver for X Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1993 22:35:44 GMT Wobutt (scc016rf@unm.edu) wrote: : Yes,I'd also like to find a driver for this card,so if anyone has any : ideas..please email me or reply here... : Thanks. : Robert Franklin : scc016rf@carina.unm.edu I'd also like to be added to that list, however I have been informed that the soon to be released (late october), version of Xfree V2.. is planned to support Oak VGA.. anyone succesfully configured the Dos Emulator to work with the Oak card? thanks td ------------------------------ From: asif@crystal.demon.co.uk (Asif Ebrahim) Subject: Troubles with Adaptec 1542B ! Date: 2 Oct 1993 17:55:16 -0500 Reply-To: asif@crystal.demon.co.uk I've just installed the latest version of Linux using the conventional method of floppy disks. I have one IDE hard drive and one SCSI hard drive which is supported by an Adaptec 1542B. What I did was to create one partition on the IDE drive for Linux to boot up on. I then created another partition on the SCSI drive to put the home directory onto. When I finished installing Linux I booted up from the floppy disk which was created during the installation. When Linux came to the point of initallizing the Adaptec 1542B the system just hung up and there was a message saying Internal Error scsi.c 966 I've checked that the following information was correct on both my card and the setup on my machine. [ IO:330 IRQ:10 DMA:5 ] I have no idea what could be the problem. Please could you mail me back at asif@crystal.demon.co.uk and not via the newsgroups as I haven't got NEWS setup yet. Thanks. ============================================================================== _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ A s i f E b r a h i m _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ cs2bx@herts.ac.uk (University) _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ asif@crystal.demon.co.uk (Home) _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ A.Ebrahim@herts.ac.uk (University) _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ asif@cursor.demon.co.uk (Friends) ============================================================================== ------------------------------ Subject: LILO Default to MSDOS? From: levinson@vax.sonoma.edu Date: 2 Oct 93 09:44:01 -0800 Just out of curiosity, it there a way to make lilo version 12 default boot from MSDOS? What would I need to change in /etc/lilo/config? I have two boots, MSDOS and LINUX, the boot record resides in /dev/hda2 (my linux partition) and it is active. If I make /dev/hda1 active MSDOS boots. Please respond privately. -- Eric Levinson rcisnet2!root@moon.nbn.com | Home computer (UUCP) levinson@vax.sonoma.edu | Vax I can also be reached on my BBS system, Color Galaxy Milky Way (415) 883-0696 ------------------------------ From: diwan@delphi.com (Hasan Diwan) Subject: Linux Where, Space? Date: 3 Oct 1993 01:55:50 GMT Where may I obtain a copy of Linux and how much space will I need to run it? Are all UNIX applications capable of running under Linux? -+Hasan+-- Fido: 1:109/349.9000 Internet: diwan@delphi.com 72704.1640@compuserve.com hasan_diwan@permanet.org Prodigy: nrsm79b (Beta-testing Mail Manager) ------------------------------ From: du605@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kenneth P. Persing) Subject: LILO IDE, DOS & EXT2FS Date: 3 Oct 1993 03:33:45 GMT Hi, I am having aproblem booting linux or DOS, I have 2 163meg IDE hard drives. The first has 133megs of DOS (/dev/hda1) the extra 30 belongs to the linux swap file (/dev/hda3). The second drive is totaly devoted to linux (/dev/hdb2). If I boot w/o any floppies, I'll default to DOS, I need to boot with a floppy in order to boot linux. How do I install LILO so I can totaly boot from the hard drive, then be given the choice to load either DOS or Linux??? Any answers would be greatly appreciated!! PERSING_K@poets.whittier.edu persing@interlock.wdni.com Kenneth P. Persing ------------------------------ From: sethp@iat.holonet.net (Seth Parker) Subject: ProAudio Spectrum CD Rom problem Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 03:15:29 GMT I just recently got the linux system on CD Rom and want to install it from my Texel cd rom hooked up to my Proaudio Spectrum 16 card. It has a scsi port on it. When Linux's boots from the install disk it scsi detected but doesn't see the rom. What am I doing wrong? Is the card supported? I looked in the install papers but couldn't find anything. Thanks Seth Parker ------------------------------ From: ddorkin@orac.holonet.net (David J. Dorkin) Subject: SLS install problems-need help Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 03:30:40 GMT I am trying to install SLS Linux on my new HD, It initializes the Linux/Minix partition fine, but doesn't properly set up my swap partition via the installation script. Also, while installing 70Megs worth, I received errors all of the time including: stdin:out of memory virtual memory exceeded in 'new' tar: could not allocate memory for blacking factor 20 sed: couldn't allocate momory I am running on a 386/40MHz with a 330MB IDE HD. I have 4 Megs of Ram, shouldn't that be enough. I went through the whole installation and very little was there. Also, when I make the boot disk at the end of the installation, it goes fine until it tries to mount, VFS. Then the machine locks. I should be getting 4 Megs more soon, should that help? Please help soon! I am dying to get X running! Thanks in advance. Please mail responses to: ddorkin@holonet.net Thanks again. -Dave -- David Dorkin, N2RQU ddorkin@holonet.net ------------------------------ From: jstern@plato.ss.uci.edu (Jeff Stern) Subject: How to run /etc/lilo/install after kernel rebuild... Date: 3 Oct 93 03:56:18 GMT How do I rerun lilo so the kernel I just compiled will boot right? I assume lilo is the problem: i compiled a new kernel and now it goes into infinite reboots. When I run the 'make zlilo' to compile a new kernel, it makes one, but has trouble running lilo, saying ./lilo: No such file or directory. Even when I run lilo install from the linux compile directory, I still have the problem (see below) Why? Then, when I go to the /etc/lilo directory itself, the dang thing now says it wants command line arguments. None of this is documented: it is not in /etc/lilo/README, it is not in LILO-FAQ. I simply need to know how to get the new kernel to automatically boot. On other systems, it's easy. Make new kernel, copy over, reboot. With lilo i have to spend half a day only to figure out that when it is going into infinite rebooting cycles this is a *feature*, not a flaw. Please help, anyone. ========================== Script started on Sat Oct 2 08:26:23 1993 eclectic:/usr/src/linux# ls #README# boot ibcs lib tools COPYING config.in include lilodocs typescript Configure config.old init makever.sh zBoot Makefile fs ipc mm zImage README gz123 kernel net zSystem.map eclectic:/usr/src/linux# /etc/lilo/install ./lilo: No such file or directory eclectic:/usr/src/linux# cd /etc/lilo/ eclectic:/etc/lilo# install Usage: install [options] [-s] [--strip] source dest install [options] [-s] [--strip] source... directory install [options] {-d,--directory} directory... Options: [-c] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] [--group=group] [--mode=mode] [--owner=owner] eclectic:/etc/lilo# cd /usr/src/linux eclectic:/usr/src/linux# exit exit Script done on Sat Oct 2 08:26:54 1993 ========================== =========================================================================== Jeff Stern "Timex Sinclair UNIX.. coming soon to a dealer near you." =========================================================================== ------------------------------ From: oli@wnbbs.nbg.sub.org (Oliver Duesel) Subject: Re: Smail in 99pl9 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 93 14:50:11 CEST Hi Volker, vrgrimm@y.cip.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (Volker Grimm) writes: > I am running Linux .99pl9 and installed all of the SLS-Distrib. > What do I have to do to make the other users known to the system ? Take a closer look at the files under /usr/local/lib/smail ... especially the 'paths' file; be sure to include both, your hostname w/o domain AND your hostname with your domain ... see the example for details. You also should edit the config-files for elm (elm.rc etc.) to suit your setup. The above should do it for _local_ mail ... By(t)e, Oli. ------------------------------ From: oli@wnbbs.nbg.sub.org (Oliver Duesel) Subject: Re: NE-2000 Ethernet cards Date: Mon, 27 Sep 93 14:59:28 CEST Reply-To: Oliver_Duesel@f2081.n247.z2.wnbbs.nbg.sub.org Hi, wgutz@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Wolfgang Utz) writes: > Now my question: Will those chaep cards really work with Linux? Has anyone an > experiences? I'm currently using two 'LANcard' Ethernet Adapter (NE200 compatibles) ... which cost me abt. 80.- DM/each - for my needs, they are fast enough; I dont' really need those fancy WD80x3-cards :-) Networking with my other computer is working like a charm ... setup was easy, connections are stable and pretty fast. Seems like it's enough, to choose 100%-compatibles ... or ones, that are tested within TCP/IP-networks. Using Donald Beckers eth-driver, it is working now since 0.99pl4 (now pl12) w/o any problems (thank you for this btw!) Just ask your dealer, if you could try them and bring'em back in case they won't work - should be no problem ? By(t)e, Oli. ------------------------------ From: hardinhk@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Harvard Harding) Subject: term in AIX, HELP..... Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 06:05:59 GMT Has anyone out there got term 1.07 to work under AIX 3.2 or 3.1 for that matter. I can get it to compile, and when I run it on the AIX system and my linux system it seem to connect, but as soon as I try to run trsh I get an error something like "can't create (open) pty." Well this isn't the exact message but you get the idea. So if anybody out there has been able to get term working correctly on an AIX system please post of mail me what changes you made to the code. Thanks alot. Harv hardinhk@craft.clarkson.edu -- ******************************************************************************* * Harvard K. Harding Jr. E-Mail: hardinhk@craft.clarkson.edu * * - Clarkson University harv@craft.clarkson.edu * ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ From: drew@kinglear.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt) Subject: Re: ProAudio Spectrum CD Rom problem Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 06:54:03 GMT In article , Seth Parker wrote: >I just recently got the linux system on CD Rom and want to install it from >my Texel cd rom hooked up to my Proaudio Spectrum 16 card. It has a scsi >port on it. When Linux's boots from the install disk it scsi detected but No it doesn't - while there is an audio driver for the PAS16 in the distribution kernel, there is no SCSI driver and the SCSI side of the card is *not* detected. >doesn't see the rom. What am I doing wrong? Is the card supported? I >looked in the install papers but couldn't find anything. From the SCSI HOWTO : Section 3 : Hosts Subsection A : Supported and Unsupported Hardware Drivers that are being developed, but aren't publically available PAS-16 (based on my NCR5380 driver, works if booted with a CD in the drive but fails if none is there or there is a disk change) Ie : the PAS-16 SCSI port is not supported yet. ------------------------------ From: ad737@Freenet.carleton.ca (Kevin Matassa) Subject: INIT hangs on boot Reply-To: ad737@Freenet.carleton.ca (Kevin Matassa) Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 12:13:25 GMT Still trying to debug my problem, I have another question. Does anyone know what happens in Linux when INIT is started. Any info is appreciated. -- // Kevin Matassa // ad737@freenet.carleton.ca // Ottawa, Ont, Canada ------------------------------ From: kperson@plains.NoDak.edu (Kerry Person) Subject: Re: Linux Where, Space? Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 13:51:43 GMT In article <9310022148591.diwan.DLITE@delphi.com> diwan@delphi.com (Hasan Diwan) writes: >Where may I obtain a copy of Linux and how much space will I need to run it? >Are all UNIX applications capable of running under Linux? 1. This newsgroup is going away. Use one of comp.os.linux.help/announce/admin/misc/development. 2. In c.o.l.help (at least), read the regularly posted article entitled (something like) READ THIS BEFORE POSTING. It will either tell you what you want to know, or tell you how to find out. -- Kerry J. Person Electrical Engineering kperson@plains.Nodak.edu North Dakota State University kperson@badlands.Nodak.edu Fargo, ND USA ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Activists-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux) via: Internet: Linux-Activists@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux tupac-amaru.informatik.rwth-aachen.de pub/msdos/replace The current version of Linux is 0.99pl9 released on April 23, 1993 End of Linux-Activists Digest ******************************