From: Digestifier To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Mon, 4 Oct 93 19:13:08 EDT Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #285 Linux-Activists Digest #285, Volume #6 Mon, 4 Oct 93 19:13:08 EDT Contents: Simple courtesy (rich@mulvey.com) How to load a Coherent cpio into Linux? (Patrick Draper) Re: Forward: QIC-80 (Juergen Prang) Re: LILO Default to MSDOS? (Joerg Stenger) SCSI for Linux? (Kevin Routh) nntpd (Mark Swanson) Office Package (Island Dr (John Will) Adaptec 1522 support, SLS 1.03? (hillg@vax.sonoma.edu) Mice (Dyllanne) Warning Message during Installation (Tony Wang) Re: Warning Message during Installation (Risto Kankkunen) Re: Adaptec 1522 support, SLS 1.03? (goodyear john) Re: Office Package (Island Dr (Jay Anderson) Re: Warning Message during Installation (Haak) CFC/CFI: XSysadmin (Michael Will) Re: Adaptec 1522 support, SLS 1.03? (Dr. Kirk C. Aune) SQL RDBMS (David Tannen) term+archie (Ronald Florence) networking with SLS 1.03 (Jun Yang) testing, pls ignore (jwest@jwest.ecen.okstate.edu) X _bug_ (was Re: Problem with xdm...) (Frank Lofaro) Re: The smallest Linux? (Christoph Adomeit) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rich@mulvey.com Subject: Simple courtesy Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 15:12:22 GMT AHHHHHHH! If I see one more post asking, "What is Linux? Will it run on my SuperTurboZippy 386-16? Is it Unix?" post, I'm going to become violent. Since the people who post these things obviously don't have the common courtesy to actually *READ* the Linux groups before blindly posting, perhaps we should do them a favor. Everyone should collect a complete set of HOWTO's, and whenever one of the above questions appear, send them to the poster. Cripes, I'm only 26 and I'm already complaining about the young whippersnappers who don't have a clue about politeness. :-) - Rich -- Rich Mulvey Amateur Radio: N2VDS Rochester, NY rich@mulvey.com "Ignorance should be painful." ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.coherent From: pdrap@ctp.com (Patrick Draper) Subject: How to load a Coherent cpio into Linux? Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 13:49:17 GMT Hi, I've got a backup of all my Coherent stuff that I'd like to load into Linux. The backup is in the Coherent cpio format on a diskette. The trouble is that I can't load it into Linux. There's a difference between Coherent's cpio and others because I can backup and restore a diskette that I made only with Linux in the Linux cpio format. I purposefully used cpio to back up my stuff because the manual said that it's more portable than tar, however, I've never had trouble with tar before. I can't reinstall my backup to Coherent and used a different format because Coherent isn't on my hard drive anymore. Thanks in advance, /\/\ |Patrick Draper Mr. Order, he runs at a| / /_.\|Cambridge Technology Partners, Inc. good pace, but old | \ /./|e-mail: pdrap@ctp.com Mother chaos is | \/\/ |Lansing, Michigan winning the race. | ------------------------------ From: prang@du9ds4.fb9dv.uni-duisburg.de (Juergen Prang) Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.bugs Subject: Re: Forward: QIC-80 Date: 4 Oct 93 15:53:17 GMT burgess@hrd769.brooks.af.mil (Dave Burgess) writes: >By the way, about two weeks ago, there was an announcement for a >QIC-40/80 device driver that would let DOS back up the 386BSD partition >using an image backup format. I have just used it to back my drive up, >and I am please to say that version 1.1 (which is the most recent >version) works at least as well as advertised. >While this does not get a native *BSD driver for the tapes written, it >does allow us to at leat back up the hard drive while we get it going. >The program is available from ftp.uni-duisberg.de (I think). I have put ^^^^ Just a short note from the author: it is on ftp.uni-duisburg.de directory: /pub/pc/misc >version 1.1 up for anonymous FTP here in the pub directory. It is >called rawdsk11.zip and is a DOS zip file. >-- >TSgt Dave Burgess >NCOIC AL/Management Information Systems Office >Brooks AFB, TX -- Juergen Prang | prang@du9ds4.fb9dv.uni-duisburg.de University of Duisburg |******************************************** Electrical Engineering | Logic is a systematic method of coming Dept. of Dataprocessing | to the wrong conclusion with confidence ------------------------------ From: stenger@zeus.uni-duisburg.de (Joerg Stenger) Subject: Re: LILO Default to MSDOS? Date: 4 Oct 1993 16:03:09 GMT Reply-To: stenger@zeus.uni-duisburg.de In article 162618K2002E1@ALIJKU11.BITNET, Warrior Of Darkness () writes: >Greetings, > >I would also like to do what is needed to setup LILO to boot DOS by default, >since my system is also used by DOS *puke* users who would prefer booting >straight DOS without having to specify the OS explicitly on bootup. So if there >is a possibility to do this, please post it here! > >Thx, >DrAkHaI First of all You should read the FAQ and the documentation that comes with lilo. Everything I will tell You can be found there. The default Boot-image is the first one that appears in the /etc/lilo/config. In Your case Your config should look like: ---- begin /etc/lilo/config --- boot = /dev/ prompt delay = message = compact other = /dev/ table = /dev/ label = image = root = /dev/ label= --- end /etc/lilo/config --- Don't forget to do a "sh /etc/lilo/install" whenever You alter either Your config-file or one of the images. Hope that helps, Joerg PS: Questions like Yours belong to col.help. ======================================================= E-Mail: stenger@zeus.uni-duisburg.de [134.91.4.79] or hj902st@unidui.uni-duisburg.de [134.91.4.3] ======================================================= ------------------------------ From: krouth@slee01.srl.ford.com (Kevin Routh) Subject: SCSI for Linux? Date: 4 Oct 1993 16:17:40 GMT I am looking for a SCSI controller which is compatable with Linux. I would like the least expensive available which will give reasonable performance. Anyone know (or own) such a beast? I am purchasing a second disk for Linux and would like to buy a SCSI rather than IDE. Thanks. -- Kevin C. Routh Internet: krouth@slee01.srl.ford.com Ford Electronics IBMmail (PROFS): USFMCTMF IC Engineering 17000 Rotunda Drive, LN-024A Voice mail: (313) 337-5136 Dearborn, MI 48121-6010 FAX: (313) 248-6244 ------------------------------ From: ag010@Freenet.carleton.ca (Mark Swanson) Subject: nntpd Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 16:09:58 GMT nnptd[88]: read_groups: malloc 0 bytes: No such file or dir. unexpected response from ... server: 503. I have all the other networking stuff working. I have gone through all nntpd's config files and all the files that it needs are present in my system with proper permissions with the exception of rnews. I do not have it. Could it be the problem? Can I link it with sendmail? Please reply even if you are a few weeks behind the messages. Thanks! -- Mark Swanson. ag010@freenet.carleton.ca ------------------------------ From: john.will@satalink.com (John Will) Subject: Office Package (Island Dr Date: 2 Oct 93 17:43:00 GMT TO>I got an answer some minutes ago. They know Linux, but at the moment they TO>have no plans to make a port. This may change if they will see a real TO>market for a Linux port. TO> TO>Now it is your turn!!! Please send me an E-Mail if you are pricipially TO>willing to bye a package like "Draw, Write, Paint" for Linux. TO> TO>I want to show that there _IS_ a market for commercial Linux software. TO>Please don't dissapoint me :-). Since this is the first time I ever heard of "Draw, Write, Paint", it's not likely that I'd agree to buy it for an unknown amount of money! I doubt you'll find a lot of people willing to spend an undetermined amount of money for an unknown package, think about it... :-) ------------------------------ Subject: Adaptec 1522 support, SLS 1.03? From: hillg@vax.sonoma.edu Date: 4 Oct 93 08:46:00 -0800 I am trying to Install SLS 1.03, It tells me that I have no SCSI drives or CD roms. In reality I do. After reading the current posts I notice somone said the Adaptec 1522 SCSI controller is not supported. Is this true? If so, will it ever be, or is there a work around? I would like to get this up on my machine so that I can evaluate it before spending $$$ to get new hardware. Thanks in advance Garrett ghill@sonoma.edu ------------------------------ From: cbar68@ccsun.strath.ac.uk (Dyllanne) Subject: Mice Date: 4 Oct 1993 16:38:17 GMT Two questions about mice: 1) Can you get mice that plug into LPT1 ? 2) If so, are they compatible in XFree86? What do you set the values in XConfig to? Many thanks....... V. ------------------------------ From: hwang@ecst.csuchico.edu (Tony Wang) Subject: Warning Message during Installation Date: 4 Oct 1993 17:17:40 GMT Hello there: When I was installing the Linux (SLS 1.03) on my 486/33 DX, I got the following warning message on the screen: Math coprocessor using exception 16 error reporting I just can not figure out what it means, because everything seems running ok after I finish installing the Linux (Main base system + X11). Any help or suggestion will be very appreciated. dwang +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | Tony Wang | | University of California, Chico | | e-mail: hwang@hairball.ecst.csuchico.edu | | Address: PO BOX 6432 | | Chico, CA. 95927-6432 | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ ------------------------------ From: kankkune@cs.Helsinki.FI (Risto Kankkunen) Subject: Re: Warning Message during Installation Date: 4 Oct 1993 18:42:18 GMT > When I was installing the Linux (SLS 1.03) on my 486/33 DX, I got the >following warning message on the screen: > >Math coprocessor using exception 16 error reporting It's not a warning, but an informational message telling everything is all right, things are working as they should and everything is really splendid. It's that time of the year again ------------------------------ From: jgoody1@gl.umbc.edu (goodyear john) Subject: Re: Adaptec 1522 support, SLS 1.03? Date: 4 Oct 1993 14:56:13 -0400 ftp to tsx-11.mit.edu. In /pub/linux/ALPHA/scsi there are some scsi related patches. The One for Pl13 MAY include the 1522 support. If not, in that directory is an aha1522 directory that has the 152x driver in it. I believe the current package only includes a patch for Pl13. ------------------------------ From: anderson@zymurgy.bms.com (Jay Anderson) Subject: Re: Office Package (Island Dr Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 20:13:02 GMT >>>>> On 2 Oct 93 17:43:00 GMT, john.will@satalink.com (John Will) said: TO>I got an answer some minutes ago. They know Linux, but at the moment they TO>have no plans to make a port. This may change if they will see a real TO>market for a Linux port. TO> TO>Now it is your turn!!! Please send me an E-Mail if you are pricipially TO>willing to bye a package like "Draw, Write, Paint" for Linux. TO> TO>I want to show that there _IS_ a market for commercial Linux software. TO>Please don't dissapoint me :-). John> Since this is the first time I ever heard of "Draw, Write, Paint", it's John> not likely that I'd agree to buy it for an unknown amount of money! John> I doubt you'll find a lot of people willing to spend an undetermined amount John> of money for an unknown package, think about it... :-) I didn't realize that your having heard of a product was the definite proof of it's existance. Unfortunately for you, Island Draw, Write and Paint are not unknown. They've been around in the Unix market for a number of years. I don't know where you've been, but if you're just crawling out from under a rock that's your problem, not the rest of ours! :-) Have a nice day. -- ====================================================== Jay Anderson N3JMC anderson@optical.bms.com Document Imaging Systems Adminstrator Bristol-Myers Squibb Pharmaceutical Research Institute Princeton, NJ 08543 Work: (609)-252-6039 ------------------------------ From: i7110203@ws.rz.tu-bs.de (Haak) Subject: Re: Warning Message during Installation Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 19:24:09 GMT In article <28plrkINN9q1@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu>, hwang@ecst.csuchico.edu (Tony Wang) writes: |> Hello there: |> |> When I was installing the Linux (SLS 1.03) on my 486/33 DX, I got the |> following warning message on the screen: |> |> Math coprocessor using exception 16 error reporting |> Don't woory, this is just the report, that you _have_ a coprocessor (in your 486) and that it uses an error reporting scheme via interrupts. Cheers, Oliver ------------------------------ From: will@oliver (Michael Will) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development Subject: CFC/CFI: XSysadmin Date: 4 Oct 1993 19:36:22 GMT Reply-To: will@peanuts.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de CFC / CFI Call for Code / Call for Ideas :-) Xsysadmin - this is what I want to write, only I think there already is a lot of code outside? Please contact me if you are working on something similar, have done something alike or have something stuffed away which did not work to well... I would like to make a LinuxConfigurationtool for - usermaintainement (incl. shadow-support) - uucp - smail - cnews / tin - internet - cron - printers I do not know whether it is a good idea to put this all into one program, especially since many people should contribute to this program - I cannot do it all alone. I will throw myself at the user-maintainement-stuff first. The tool I would like to use for this task is the ObjectInterface/ObjectBuilder of ParcPlace (tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/packages/OI) since it has good documentation in paperform :-) and seems to be good c++. Otherwise I would say: xview3? Any Ideas - sources - to contribute? Someone wanting to contribute a real nifty icon ? Cheers, Michael Will PS: a very (!) crude drawing: usermenue ========================================= Username | michaelw | Realname | Michael Will | ========================================= Status | locked | User may change password |x| yes | | no password expire on | | |01.01.77| off |x| ========================================= home directory | /home/michaelw | shell | /bin/tcsh | ========================================= Groups | users | | | fax | | | uucp | | | mail | | ------------------ ------------------------------ From: kaune@kellum (Dr. Kirk C. Aune) Subject: Re: Adaptec 1522 support, SLS 1.03? Date: 4 Oct 1993 20:57:45 GMT hillg@vax.sonoma.edu wrote: : I am trying to Install SLS 1.03, It tells me that I have no SCSI : drives or CD roms. In reality I do. After reading the current posts : I notice somone said the Adaptec 1522 SCSI controller is not : supported. Is this true? If so, will it ever be, or is there a work : around? I would like to get this up on my machine so that I can : evaluate it before spending $$$ to get new hardware. : Thanks in advance : Garrett : ghill@sonoma.edu You may obtain the driver from tsx-11.mit.edu in the ALPHA/scsi directory. It works beautifully under my SLS 0.99p12 system and our thanks go to Juergen Fischer. I believe he released it for folding into the next release, but I do not know if it made PL13. Kirk -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Kirk C. Aune, Ph.D. ( kaune@med.unc.edu ) | | Director, Associate Dean for Information Systems | | School of Medicine, UNC at Chapel Hill | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.coherent,comp.os.os2.apps From: tannend@source.asset.com (David Tannen) Subject: SQL RDBMS Reply-To: tannend@source.asset.com Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 19:05:30 GMT I need to find out what my options are for a SQL RDBMS would be for the following operating systems: OS/2, Windows NT, Novell or a PC based Unix. I have the following server requirements: 1) Must be able to support up to 300 users. 2) The users will be dialing into the system via a high speed modems. 3) Portable to different operating systems. The client requirements are: 1) The client software will be running on a PC using Windows 3.1. 2) GUI will be developed using Borland Object Pascal, so the client SQL side needs to be available for this environment. If you have any suggestions, I would be appreciate it if you would respond to my email account (tannend@source.asset.com). I will summarize if others are interested in this information. --- David Tannen tannend@source.asset.com ================================================================== -- "Dependance on wizardry to mitigate the fundamental limitations -- of software is called 'hacking'." Grady Booch. -- -- Developing MS-Windows applications often requires 'wizardry'. ================================================================== ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.sources.wanted,comp.sys.sun.apps From: ron@mlfarm.com (Ronald Florence) Subject: term+archie Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 20:02:18 GMT I've been experimenting with the term package from Linux to connect our Suns with an Internet site via serial lines and TB+ modems. The term clients and ncftp seem to work fine. I am wondering if anyone has modified an archie client to work with term, and if sources are available via ftp. Is there a mailing list or newsgroup for term and term clients? Or perhaps an up-to-date list of already modified clients? Thanks in advance for suggestions and comments via email or to comp.sys.sun.apps, the only one of these newsgroups we can get at our site. -- Ronald Florence ron@mlfarm.com ------------------------------ From: jyang@eoc.com (Jun Yang) Subject: networking with SLS 1.03 Reply-To: jyang@eoc.com Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 21:42:59 GMT I installed SLS 1.03 with TCP/IP and am trying to get networking up and running. I am configurating my machine according to the NET-2-FAQ. It seems to me that SLS has a slightly different config than the FAQ's. That's OK. But there is no /conf directory on my machine. Did the SLS installation somehow miss it or is there something else wrong? Email reply preferred. Thanks a lot for any help. Jun ------------------------------ From: jwest@jwest.ecen.okstate.edu Subject: testing, pls ignore Date: 4 Oct 93 18:44:20 GMT Reply-To: jwestJwest.ecen.okstate.edu Sorry to waste bandwidth, but my news-server doesn't recognize misc.test, so I thought I would send the test here, where not much happens anymore. Jim ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc From: ftlofaro@unlv.edu (Frank Lofaro) Subject: X _bug_ (was Re: Problem with xdm...) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 93 22:18:13 GMT In article <28pbgdINNf60@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> cbvetter@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Chris Vetter) writes: >In article , sarrato@polytechnique.fr (Jean-Pierre Sarrato) writes: >> >> I am currently using the last Slackware release, and I have a big problem >> with xdm. It starts normally and gives me access to an olwm session all right. >> But when I exit olwm, the computer hangs. I must add that I have the XS3 >> package installed. I would welcome any idea ( or a definitive answer from >> a Linux Guru... ). > >It's not a prob of your XS3 package ... > >Now, to fix this 'bug': > >Login as root, go straight down to /usr/X386/lib/X11/xdm and edit the config >file (forgot it's name, sorry). >Write the following line at the end of the file: > >DisplayManager.*.terminateServer: true > >Save and reboot, and xdm will work correct. > >> JPS > >-- > First off, lets move this out of comp.os.linux (a dying group). I'm moving it to comp.os.linux.misc (not .help, this is a legitamate bug) Second, while the above _WORKAROUND_ will work, it is _*NOT*_ the proper final solution. The proper fix is for X to be compiled so that the SIGHUP signal handler is either not one-shot, or is reset, so that X doesn't just exit on the second SIGHUP. It seems X is expecting BSD signal handling, and is getting POSIX. Again, this is a serious _*BUG*_ in Xfree86 which must be fixed if Xfree86 is to be useful in production enviornments and to be considered reliable, as opposed to just a toy. It wil be considered a toy by those that need a _working_ system, unless _KNOWN BUGS_ eventually get fixed. Luckily, when I mentioned and fixed the kernel bug with kill -0 pid back in 0.98pl0, it was made part of the kernel for 0.98pl1. I hope the Xfree86 people will be as responsive to this problem has Linus was with the kernel. P.S. Don't say: "Why don't _you_ fix this bug too?! Not unless you will give me a free 1GIG hard disk." I wouldn't be so frustrated, if the people in charge and those on the newsgroup acknowleged this is a bug, instead of pretending it is okay. A bug is a bug, whether you admit it or not. ------------------------------ From: ado@bigcomm.gun.de (Christoph Adomeit) Subject: Re: The smallest Linux? Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 01:36:33 GMT donley@cscns.com (Donley P'Simer) writes: >I was able to install Linux 0.99pl12 SLS 1.03 on a 20MB laptop. I used the >base installation with prompts and answered no to the stuff I didn't need. >Basically the system includes everything but Emacs, UUCP, GhostScript, News, >and the kernel source. The source would be neccessary if you ever wanted >to update or customize the kernel, but if you've got a friend with the >full system, they could compile a zImage for you. I've got a client here that runs TCP and NFS on a 8 MB Partition of a 20 MB Drive in a 386SX with 4 MB of ram. -- ============================================================================== fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity (stolen from L.Peter Deutsch, but the signature is too good,isnt't it) ============================================================================== ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Activists-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux) via: Internet: Linux-Activists@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux tupac-amaru.informatik.rwth-aachen.de pub/msdos/replace The current version of Linux is 0.99pl9 released on April 23, 1993 End of Linux-Activists Digest ******************************