From: Digestifier To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Thu, 22 Sep 94 22:13:16 EDT Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #802 Linux-Misc Digest #802, Volume #2 Thu, 22 Sep 94 22:13:16 EDT Contents: Re: Mitsumi FX001D on SoundBlaster 16 MCD ? (Kees de Bruin) Re: C++ fabs() not defined in g++??? (Stephen Gourdie) Re: Linux & Netware. (Joao de Souza) How to setup SLIP using dip for dynamic IP assignment? (Shan Zhu) Re: Is Linux faster than Os/2? Please help. (Pekka J Taipale) SB16 MCD and Mitsumi problem - Help (Raymond Ho) Re: Contrib. $s for Linux Dev (Russell Nelson) Re: PLIP config problem....Crynwr Drivers (Russell Nelson) Distibutions??? What are the differences!!! (Barry Kominik) Re: Installing a new kernel on the Slackware Boot disk! (Onno Roep) Re: Royal Computers - How are hey in general and with Linux? (david forehand) Is PROMISE SCSI Supported? (Jennifer Griffin) Re: How to use a host as a router - READ THIS (Ian McCloghrie) GCC (templates) on Linux (Michael J. Callahan) Re: perfmeter no connect (again?) (Andreas Koppenhoefer) Notebooks: _Backups?_ (Brian M Berry) Xscreensaver / xdm (Benjamin Alman) Re: Installing a new kernel on the Slackware Boot disk! (Onno Roep) Re: Does Linux support ATI Mach64 card in non-accelerated mode (Eric F. Sorton) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bruin@tasking.nl (Kees de Bruin) Subject: Re: Mitsumi FX001D on SoundBlaster 16 MCD ? Reply-To: bruin@tasking.nl (Kees de Bruin) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 13:18:05 GMT Thomas Niederreiter writes: > Hi! > Supports the linux-kernel this combination? Yes, just make sure that the correct IRQ is set in the file mcd.h in the include/linux directory. Regards, -- Kees de Bruin bruin@tasking.nl Tasking Software B.V. Tel. +31-33-55 85 84 Lead, Follow, or get the Hell out of the way... ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help From: steve@stevegd.equinox.gen.nz (Stephen Gourdie) Subject: Re: C++ fabs() not defined in g++??? Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 06:44:30 GMT Andreas Schwab (schwab@ls5.informatik.uni-dortmund.de) wrote: : In article <1994Sep17.192808.5582@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>, anibal@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca (Anibal Jodorcovsky) writes: : |> This is the test.cc program: : |> #include : |> #include : |> #include : |> main() : |> { : |> float a, b; : |> a = 1.1; : |> b = -2.2; : |> cout << "a = " << a << " :: fabs(a) = " << fabs(a) << endl; : |> cout << "b = " << b << " :: fabs(b) = " << fabs(b) << endl; : |> return 0; : |> } : |> and when trying to compile gives this error: : |> /tmp/cca035731.o: Undefined symbol _fabs referenced from text segment : |> /tmp/cca035731.o: Undefined symbol _fabs referenced from text segment : Add -lm to the link command. On the Sun fabs() is probably a macro compiling the above with the command line g++ -lm -o test test.cc I get the following errors /tmp/cca056921.o: Undefined symbol endl(ostream &) referenced from text segment /tmp/cca056921.o: Undefined symbol _fabs referenced from text segment /tmp/cca056921.o: Undefined symbol _cout referenced from text segment /tmp/cca056921.o: Undefined symbol ostream::operator<<(char const *) referenced from text segment /tmp/cca056921.o: Undefined symbol ostream::operator<<(float) referenced from text segment /tmp/cca056921.o: Undefined symbol ostream::operator<<(char const *) referenced from text segment /tmp/cca056921.o: Undefined symbol ostream::operator<<(double) referenced from text segment /tmp/cca056921.o: Undefined symbol ostream::operator<<(ostream &(*)(ostream &)) referenced from text segment /tmp/cca056921.o: Undefined symbol endl(ostream &) referenced from text segment /tmp/cca056921.o: Undefined symbol _fabs referenced from text segment /tmp/cca056921.o: Undefined symbol _cout referenced from text segment /tmp/cca056921.o: Undefined symbol ostream::operator<<(char const *) referenced from text segment /tmp/cca056921.o: Undefined symbol ostream::operator<<(float) referenced from text segment /tmp/cca056921.o: Undefined symbol ostream::operator<<(char const *) referenced from text segment /tmp/cca056921.o: Undefined symbol ostream::operator<<(double) referenced from text segment /tmp/cca056921.o: Undefined symbol ostream::operator<<(ostream &(*)(ostream &)) referenced from text segment This occures with all floating point functions as defined in math.h. Any sugestions? Steve (steve@stevegd.equinox.gen.nz) ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions From: jdsouza@nywork2.undp.org (Joao de Souza) Subject: Re: Linux & Netware. Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 17:09:07 GMT I (jdsouza@undp.org) wrote: : Hi all. : I am running on a Novell Netware / IBM Token Ring network, : and I was hoping (sp?) to start running Linux on at least one of : our machines as a test. So the question is: Does Linux support : Netware and Token Rings? So far, I got the following answers: Netware - 2 yes, 2 no, 1 DOSEMU Token Ring - 1 no, 1 no idea, 1 don't think so, 2 in beta stage Plus two others who requested more info about how I am trying to set it up. I guess this was the right answer, so I will first try to get a beter idea of what I need, then I will ask for help again. Thanks to all who responded. -- ######################################## # Joao de Souza # # Statistical Assistant # # Information Manager Assistant # # Regional Bureau for Latin America # # and the Caribbean # # United Nations Development Programme # # # # jdsouza@undp.org # # joao.de.souza@undp.org # # rblac@undp.org # ######################################## ------------------------------ From: shanzhu@eesun1.tamu.edu (Shan Zhu) Subject: How to setup SLIP using dip for dynamic IP assignment? Date: 22 Sep 1994 04:10:21 GMT Hi, there, Does anyone know how to use dip to setup SLIP for a remote server that uses dynamic IP address assignment? The sample.dip file doesn't work for me. The dip version I am using is 3.7.7. If you already made your SLIP work (with dynamic IP address assignment), could you drop me some tips or send me your dip script file through email? I really appreciate your help. Thanks in advance --shan ------------------------------ From: pjt@snakemail.hut.fi (Pekka J Taipale) Subject: Re: Is Linux faster than Os/2? Please help. Date: 22 Sep 1994 05:55:42 GMT In article <35pjhk$g8r@progress.progress.com> tomb@bedford.progress.COM (Tom Barringer) writes: >The X documentation recommends a minimum of 16Mb memory (combination of >RAM plus swap space) to run well. I understand that Emacs is also a >memory hog, and I expect that LaTeX is similar, so you probably want to >bump that up significantly. Well, not necessarily - depends on what you want to do, as always. I have 16M RAM and I think it's generally just fine for Linux, and I'm a not-so-light user. Other operating systems supporting X may of course use more memory for running the same things. Right now I have X, emacses, xterms, Kermit and various little things like xload and xclock running. The "free" programs says this: # free total used free shared buffers Mem: 15296 14508 788 11456 5140 Swap: 5872 0 5872 # So, you could still do this in 12M quite comfortably. Having multiple copies of Emacs doesn't take much more memory per se. Running GNUS in the emacses does take memory (the listing above includes a GNUS session to a moderate-size local NNTP server). -- Pekka.Taipale@hut.fi ------------------------------ From: rayho@ix.netcom.com (Raymond Ho) Subject: SB16 MCD and Mitsumi problem - Help Date: 22 Sep 1994 03:24:47 GMT I have a Mitsumi FX001D controlled by a Sound Blaster 16 MCD. The SB16 is their latest revision with the Mitsumi CD IO port set at 0x230. The only options I have are 230, 250, 270 and 290, while with the older board, the IO port can be set starting at 0x300. I was trying to install the Yggdrasil Linux, the boot diskette insists on looking for a Sony CD ROM drive, I guest it sees the IO port of 0x230 being set, I believe that is where the Sony default. Can I use the boot command to tell LILO that I have a Mitsumi CD at 0x230 and IRQ 11? Thanks... ------------------------------ From: nelson@crynwr.crynwr.com (Russell Nelson) Subject: Re: Contrib. $s for Linux Dev Date: 22 Sep 1994 14:28:32 GMT In article <35kjik$d46@panix2.panix.com> rhockens@panix.com (Ralph Hockens) writes: Question is, where ought one contribute money to best support the ongoing development of Linux and Linux-related software, documentation, and the like? Buy printed manuals from the Free Software Foundation. I don't remember their address, etc, but you can ask gnu@prep.ai.mit.edu for more information. -- -russ http://www.crynwr.com/crynwr/nelson.html Crynwr Software | Crynwr Software sells packet driver support | ask4 PGP key 11 Grant St. | +1 315 268 1925 (9201 FAX) | What is thee doing about it? Potsdam, NY 13676 | LPF member - ask me about the harm software patents do. ------------------------------ From: nelson@crynwr.crynwr.com (Russell Nelson) Subject: Re: PLIP config problem....Crynwr Drivers Date: 22 Sep 1994 14:30:14 GMT In article <35ks1n$bn7@crl.crl.com> cfrancis@crl.com (Christopher L Francis) writes: I apologize in advance for posting something off-topic, but.... I am attempting to set up a PLIP connection between my Linux box and a 286. I got a good cable (2 actually) which conforms to the specs, have got my Linux box configured and rebuild the kernel. However, on the DOS (ugh!) box, I am attempting to use the Crynwr plip driver on irq 5, soft io addr 0x7e, hardware io addr 0x278, ethernet id 31:32:37:2e:31:2e. Each type I try to ping my linux box, i get "cannot resolve host's hardware address". Any suggestions or places to refer me to? Hmmm, sounds like a bug in plip.com to me. The first byte of an Ethernet address should never be odd, unless it's being sent to a multicast group. -- -russ http://www.crynwr.com/crynwr/nelson.html Crynwr Software | Crynwr Software sells packet driver support | ask4 PGP key 11 Grant St. | +1 315 268 1925 (9201 FAX) | What is thee doing about it? Potsdam, NY 13676 | LPF member - ask me about the harm software patents do. ------------------------------ From: pp000458@interramp.com (Barry Kominik) Subject: Distibutions??? What are the differences!!! Date: 22 Sep 1994 14:20:11 GMT Can some please explain to me what are the differences in the distributions for Linux. I see SLS, SlackWare, Yggdrasil and the Linux Quarterly. I have quite a bit of UNIX experience and am not scared to play. What distribution should I get? Thanks, Barry ------------------------------ From: onno@dutian.twi.tudelft.nl (Onno Roep) Subject: Re: Installing a new kernel on the Slackware Boot disk! Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 07:55:14 GMT srvance@unix.secs.oakland.edu (Stephen Vance) writes: >In article onno@dutiag.twi.tudelft.nl (Onno Roep) writes: >>ckelly@empros.com (Colin Kelly) writes: >> >>>In article domen.uninett.no (Olav Kvittem) writes: >>>|> From: robert@plasma.apana.org.au (Robert Kroes) >>>|> ... >>>|> I would like to know how I can create a Slackware boot disk (the one used >>>|> to install Linux from scratch) and install a kernel of my choice... >>>|> >> >>Well I read about this problem earlier and I posted in short how I did it. >>So again the story but more extensive. >>It's a few weeks ago so maybe the story is not complete and reposts are needed. >> >>1: take a existing bootfloppy is easy because there is space left >> for another kernel. You can mount it with mount /dev/fd0 /fd0 >> You can even remove the old kernel on the floppy if there is a >> space problem. >> >> From scratch it is more complicated and at last the same problem >> must be solved. At least you have to do something like: >> mkfs /dev/fd0 and you have an emty floppy then mount it etc. >> But almost everything on a slackware bootdisk is needed. >> (You must create the devices in /dev create /bin /etc and more ) >> >>2: make a kernel on your harddisk system >> copy the kernel to the root of the floppy (/fd0) >> now the kernel is on a bootflop , the only problem is how to boot >> from the new kernel >> >>3: edit /fd0/etc/lilo.conf and add the kernel just added >> >>4: run lilo -r /fd0 lilo with change root to /fd0 >> will change the bootrec on the floppy and add the kernel. >> This command is essential to solve the problem!!! >> >>5: reboot with the changed bootfloppy. You should be able to >> choose your kernel at the lilo prompt. >> >> >> >>I hope I didn't forget anything, success! >Only one thing: having this new kernel prompt for the root disk involves >a patch to linux/drivers/block/ramdisk.c. >Steve I can't remember that I patched ramdisk.c and my memory is not so bad! So there are at least 2 possibilities left: I used kernel 1.1.49 maybe this was patched. Otherwise I solved the problem by defining RAMDISK=0 in the lilo.config file without knowing anything about ramdisk.c (sounds as music). By the way where is the story about the patch? Onno. ------------------------------ From: forehand@cauchy.sosc.osshe.edu (david forehand) Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc Subject: Re: Royal Computers - How are hey in general and with Linux? Date: 22 Sep 1994 21:25:41 GMT : In article <35fhje$9dg@pluto.njcc.com>, : Brian Kramer wrote: : > : >Has anyone had experience with Royal Electronics in Industry, CA? I ordered a Royal P90 about one month ago. I was told the system would ship on the following Friday. It did not. It fianally shipped 6 days later. When I got the machine, they sent me DRAM instead of VRAM on the video, and no mouse ($9 cheapo, but it's the point). Then came the big run-around that the invoice said DRAM, not VRAM. They told me I could upgrade to VRAM for like $100 or so. Anyways... after two weeks they replaced the video card (ATI GPT OEM) and gave me a mouse. System is FAST, good quality, and I haven't had a problem *YET*. (Didn't order a monitor with it though). Make sure you specify what hardware you want (they were selling SuperMicro, I requested Intel)! -- *--------------------------------------* | forehand@cauchy.sosc.osshe.edu | Life begins at | David Forehand | Gigabyte for your 100 MHz! | Health Future SysAdmin | thoughts...? | P54c-100/8 Megs/1.2 Gig/ATI GPT | *--------------------------------------* ------------------------------ From: losteye@dsm1.dsmnet.com (Jennifer Griffin) Subject: Is PROMISE SCSI Supported? Date: 22 Sep 1994 21:19:05 GMT Reply-To: losteye@dsm1.dsmnet.com I am putting together a PC to run Linux on and was wondering if drivers are available for the following cards: -PROMISE VESA Local Bus card with 7 SCSI/2 IDE/2 FDD(up to 2.88M)/2 Serial/1 Parallel/1 Game Port For $129 from MicroXperts -Tseng ET-4000 W32i with 1MB For $139 from MicroXperts Any responses will be greatly appreciated. If anyone knows of a place that has better, I would like to know. Thanks, Carl haywoodc@iastate.edu losteye@dsmnet.com It's all fun and games 'til someone loses an eye. Jennifer Griffin & Carl Haywood losteye@dsmnet.com ------------------------------ From: ianm@qualcomm.com (Ian McCloghrie) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.admin Subject: Re: How to use a host as a router - READ THIS Date: 20 Sep 1994 09:47:10 -0700 jra@zeus.IntNet.net (Jay Ashworth) writes: >Now, since we know that IP addresses must be unique, it follows that it is >not correct practice to assign the same address to two different >interfaces on the same machine. This is common practice (and, in fact, required by many TCP/IP protocl stacks). Whether or not it is "correct" is unclear. It's quite possible to implement routing using the same IP address on two interfaces, if one of them is a point-to-point link (namely, a slip line). The idea of every physical network having its own IP network is ideologically pure. Ideological purity, while clean and elegant, is often discarded in favour of optimizations. Given the current state of the IP address space, it could easily be argued that wasting an entire network on a 2-host point-to-point slip line is incorrect behaviour :) Keep in mind that BSD is just the most prevalent TCP/IP implementation, and not the definition of the protocols. -- ____ \bi/ Ian McCloghrie | FLUG: FurryMUCK Linux User's Group \/ email: ian@ucsd.edu | Card Carrying Member, UCSD Secret Islandia Club GCS (!)d-(--) p c++ l++(+++) u+ e- m+ s+/+ n+(-) h- f+ !g w+ t+ r y* The above represents my personal opinions and not necessarily those of my employer, Qualcomm Inc. ------------------------------ From: mikec@peach.america.net (Michael J. Callahan) Subject: GCC (templates) on Linux Date: 22 Sep 1994 10:16:37 -0400 Is the version of GCC which handles templates available for Linux yet? Where can I pick it up? TIA, and best regards... |\/|ike C mikec@america.net office (404)483-9777 8388 Lake Dr., Lithonia GA, 30058-5724, USA, World =========== std disclaimer - the above represents my opinions only, and do not reflect those of my employer, my dog, ex-wife, tennis team, etc... ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help From: koppenas@tick.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Andreas Koppenhoefer) Subject: Re: perfmeter no connect (again?) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 09:00:36 GMT In article <357do3INNoh6@mickey.eng.gulfaero.com> bmccarth@gulfaero.com (Bill McCarthy) writes: Dunno if this is an oldie, but..... am running Ygg Sum '94 and using fvwm for a window mngr. When I call perfmeter, it comes up and I can access the selection window, but I get the message: 'lost connection'. This happens when I use xview and olvwm as well. No biggie, but I'd like to see how it works, as compared to xload and xosview. Anyone have any suggestions/pointers/hacks/etc? TIA. I had similar problems and finally found in /usr/src/linux/driver/net/dummy.c a solution. You can read at the beginning... /* dummy.c: a dummy net driver The purpose of this driver is to provide a device to point a route through, but not to actually transmit packets. Why? If you have a machine whose only connection is an occasional PPP/SLIP/PLIP link, you can only connect to your own hostname when the link is up. Otherwise you have to use localhost. This isn't very consistent. One solution is to set up a dummy link using PPP/SLIP/PLIP, but this seems (to me) too much overhead for too little gain. This driver provides a small alternative. Thus you can do [when not running slip] ifconfig dummy slip.addr.ess.here up [to go to slip] ifconfig dummy down dip whatever This was written by looking at Donald Becker's skeleton driver and the loopback driver. I then threw away anything that didn't apply! Thanks to Alan Cox for the key clue on what to do with misguided packets. Nick Holloway, 27th May 1994 [I tweaked this explanation a little but thats all] Alan Cox, 30th May 1994 */ I've reconfigured my kernel (1.1.50) including 'Dummy net driver support' and added ifconfig dummy slip.addr.ess.here up route add slip.addr.ess.here gw localhost metric 1 to some /etc/rc.d/* file. Andreas PS: I'm running Slackware 2.0 if that matters. -- Andreas Koppenhoefer, Student der Universitaet Stuttgart, BR Deutschland prefered languages: German, English, C, perl ("Just another Perl hacker,") SMTP: koppenh@trick.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de privat: Belaustr. 5/3, D-70195 Stuttgart, Germany, Earth, Sector ZZ9 plural Z alpha phone: +49 711 696378 and +49 711 694111 (19-22h MEZ=GMT+1) ------------------------------ From: berry@ee.cornell.edu (Brian M Berry) Subject: Notebooks: _Backups?_ Date: 21 Sep 1994 22:10:10 GMT I'm running Slack 2.0 on a ZDS notebook, and have completely moved in. With each day that passes by, I get more nervous about losing information (due to my own mischief, of course :-). So far, I've been backing up irreplaceable items (home directories, etc) via multi-volume floppy tarfiles. Does anyone know of a method, say, a via a parallel port backup device of some kind, to make larger-scale backups? Even though this would likely require non-existant software/kernel features, I am interested enough in this to code myself. Please enlighten me...(!!) Cheers! ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Brian Michael Berry berry@ee.cornell.edu Graduate Student/Electrical Engineering (607) 256-2747 Cornell University/Ithaca, NY ------------------------------ From: alman@strangiato.res.wpi.edu (Benjamin Alman) Crossposted-To: wpi.system.linux,comp.os.linux.help Subject: Xscreensaver / xdm Date: 23 Sep 1994 00:18:09 GMT Reply-To: alman@strangiato.Res.WPI.EDU I am running xscreensaver as an 'extra' program under X.. it works very well.. it has many options, but I just switched to xdm... I'm running linux 1.1.50 and Xfree86 2.1.1 ... I wanted to run xscreensaver under xdm so that it would blank the screen, etc.. while the xdm login prompt was up there... and I added it to the /usr/X386/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 file (I have added xv w/background .gif to this file, it does that correctly).. but under xdm, xscreensaver quits with the error message: Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server Error: Can't open display: :0 (I _am_ using display :0.0 .. I'm not TOO dumb...) can anyone email any suggestions to me? thanks! -- ______ _____ `/ \_____/ __)' From: Ben Alman [][][] [] [] [][][] [] | / Internet: alman@wpi.edu O O [] [] [] [] [] | I===::====::==============================|H=H] [] [] [] [][][] [][][] | I===::====::==============================|H=H] [] [] [] [] [] [] | o o _____ \_ Running Linux 1.1.50 O O [] [][][] [][][] [] [] \______/ \____) and XFree386-2.1.1 Why Are We Here? Because... ------------------------------ From: onno@dutiag.twi.tudelft.nl (Onno Roep) Subject: Re: Installing a new kernel on the Slackware Boot disk! Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 16:29:08 GMT ckelly@empros.com (Colin Kelly) writes: >In article , oak@domen.uninett.no (Olav Kvittem) writes: >|> From: robert@plasma.apana.org.au (Robert Kroes) >|> ... >|> I would like to know how I can create a Slackware boot disk (the one used >|> to install Linux from scratch) and install a kernel of my choice... >|> >|> Why? So I can make use of an alpha network driver to perform an NFS install >|> and save copying 100+ MB of Slackware 2.0 on to floppies :-) >|> >|> I have exactly the same need ! >I don't know if this is an answer for your problem, but we've had no problems >installing via NFS using the net.gz bootdisk. This may only work well over >ethernet. >On the other hand, you could install the A and N series from floppy to get the >network capabilities, then continue setup once you get a connection open. >-- >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >* Colin R. Kelly * Linux. * >* ckelly@empros.com * * >* crkelly@mermaid.micro.umn.edu * It's not just for breakfast anymore. * >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Well I read about this problem earlier and I posted in short how I did it. So again the story but more extensive. It's a few weeks ago so maybe the story is not complete and reposts are needed. 1: take a existing bootfloppy is easy because there is space left for another kernel. You can mount it with mount /dev/fd0 /fd0 You can even remove the old kernel on the floppy if there is a space problem. From scratch it is more complicated and at last the same problem must be solved. At least you have to do something like: mkfs /dev/fd0 and you have an emty floppy then mount it etc. But almost everything on a slackware bootdisk is needed. (You must create the devices in /dev create /bin /etc and more ) 2: make a kernel on your harddisk system copy the kernel to the root of the floppy (/fd0) now the kernel is on a bootflop , the only problem is how to boot from the new kernel 3: edit /fd0/etc/lilo.conf and add the kernel just added 4: run lilo -r /fd0 lilo with change root to /fd0 will change the bootrec on the floppy and add the kernel. This command is essential to solve the problem!!! 5: reboot with the changed bootfloppy. You should be able to choose your kernel at the lilo prompt. I hope I didn't forget anything, success! Onno email: O.Roep@twi.tudelft.nl ------------------------------ From: eric@news.db.erau.edu (Eric F. Sorton) Subject: Re: Does Linux support ATI Mach64 card in non-accelerated mode Date: 22 Sep 1994 22:21:04 GMT Hayim Hendeles (hayim@quark.la.locus.com) wrote: : I am considering purchasing an ATI MACH 64 graphics card. However, as : Linux does not yet have support for this card yet (I know there is : an Alpha driver available for those willing to be on the bleeding : edge of technology), I am wondering if I can use this card under : Linux in non-accelerated mode (e.g. as a Mach32 or whatever which : is supported). This will get me by for the meanwhile until Linux : can take advantage of the features of this new card. The alpha driver is fairly stable. It is not an acclerated driver though. I have been using it for a few weeks without any problems. -- |=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=|=-=| | Eric F. 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