From: Digestifier To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Thu, 29 Sep 94 13:13:12 EDT Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #844 Linux-Misc Digest #844, Volume #2 Thu, 29 Sep 94 13:13:12 EDT Contents: Re: 56.6 Kb simulated with 2 28.8Kb modems. Is it possible? (Andy Beal) Re: QNX, Linux, or 386BSD? (WAN) SCSI card and drive (Bill McCarthy) Mathematica, GAUSS (Ted Harding) Help: ftape 1.13b with kernel 1.1.49 (Andreas Weigand) e ? for menu (Sumner West) ost: 7 (Sumner West) Re: ext2 QUESTIONS (Unix answers) (Sumner West) assword: (Sumner West) Re: Is Linux faster than Os/2? Please help. (Shamim P. Mohamed) 3D CAD for Linux? Help! (P. Enrico) Re: SCO WordPerfect: does it run on Linux? (root) Re: which is better: Mitsumi or Panasonic CDROM? (Teemu Kilpivuori) WD AC2540 or QUANTUM LPS540 - which one should I buy ? (Piet Ruyssinck) Re: Linux AMD Problems (Mitchum DSouza) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bealar@ndlc.occ.uky.edu (Andy Beal) Subject: Re: 56.6 Kb simulated with 2 28.8Kb modems. Is it possible? Date: 28 Sep 1994 21:59:56 -0500 matt kracht (kracht42@matrix.newpaltz.edu) wrote: : Juana Moreno (madrid@gandalf.rutgers.edu) wrote: : : I just had this idea. There must be a way to simulate a 56.6 Kb connection : : without the need unconventional equipment (from the home user point of view, : : I mean). May be with just 2 28.8 modems connected to 2 regular phone lines and : : some smart low level packet routing ( choosing for a packet the least busy : : line) it has to be possible. How do you plan to split (and rejoin) the signals? What happens if one modem gets a fuzzy line? That would cause it to hang or fall back to a lower speed, what happens then? Are you trying to tie your Linux box into your work network? or ar you just doing terminal emulation? -- /^\ /^\ ___________/\ / \ / \ /\________ Andy Beal \/ \ / \/ bealar@ndlc.occ.uky.edu \/ ------------------------------ From: wan@bga.com (WAN) Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.os.386bsd.misc Subject: Re: QNX, Linux, or 386BSD? Date: 27 Sep 1994 14:11:02 GMT Po-Han Lin (plin@girtab.usc.edu) wrote: : If one has a pc compatible with a 486, which OS is the best unix : operating system? QNX, Linux, or 386BSD? On this forum, comp.os.qnx, QNX! ------------------------------ From: bmccarth@gulfaero.com (Bill McCarthy) Subject: SCSI card and drive Date: 26 Sep 1994 19:30:34 -0400 Hiya: First, I know next to nothing about SCSI, so if this question is naive or just plain stupid, please bear with me. I looking to add an external hard disk and since I have a spare slot, I figured this should be via a SCSI controller. Now, I figure an Adaptec 154x is good 'cause it's supported by Linux and that should be a good start. I don't have any room in my box for another drive - I have two, so I figure an external SCSI hdd would seem the logical choice. Anyone have any thoughts on this setup? I would like to keep my two segates - one for dos/win, the other for Linux partitions and use the SCSI hdd for the bulk of the Linux file system. Could anyone comment on this proposed setup and offer suggestions as to prices and dealers? I'm primarilly concerned about the external hdd. OR Should I go with the Adaptec card and a large SCSI internal and forget about an external? Also a SCSI-2 card is okay? As I mentioned, don't know squat about SCSI, but am looking at it as a definite enhancement/replacement for my current setup. TIA! ------------------------------ From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Ted Harding) Subject: Mathematica, GAUSS Date: 29 Sep 1994 11:01:15 -0400 Reply-To: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Ted Harding) In response to queries from colleagues, I am trying to find out if the mathematics packages MATHEMATICA and GAUSS are available for Linux, or in UNIX version which can be persuaded to work in Linux. (We're aware of MAPLE) Ted Harding (Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk) ------------------------------ From: usera@wema10.elektro.uni-wuppertal.de (Andreas Weigand) Subject: Help: ftape 1.13b with kernel 1.1.49 Date: 27 Sep 1994 14:19:01 GMT Hello all ! Two weeks ago i send the following message, but i get no responce. So I post it again and hope someone can answer me: Can someone help me ? I want to use my Colorado streamer DJ-10 with controller card FC-10 on my Linux system ! I get the patched ftape-driver from sunsite and compiled it successfully. The modules were compiled same and I'am using kernel version 1.1.49. Now when I give the command "mt -f /dev/ftape reten " the tape go's from the beginning to the end and return. That is it what the tape should do, but when I want to read from the tape with: mt -f /dev/ftape erase or mt -f /dev/ftape status the tape moves and I get the message: I/O error ! Can someone help me about this problem ? You can reach me via Internet at the adress: usera@wema10.elektro.uni-wuppertal.de or you can post an articel at this place ! Thank you ! Andreas Weigand ---- usera@wema10.elektro.uni-wuppertal.de ------------------------------ From: sumner@justcomp.com (Sumner West) Subject: e ? for menu Date: Mon, 26 Sep 94 15:27:46 PDT Edit> Edit> Edit> Edit> Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent Type ? for menu Edit> Edit> Edit> @xp~ SAVITR login: ) csim oalt.iaese oLi n w'yr]r r 970e 0Gycot WsiPassword: Login incorrect SAVITR login: ch for: tribution: world Searching for: TRIBUPassword: Login incorrect SAVITR login: Not found. (DOPassword: Login incorrect -- 13 new messages in comp.os.linux.announce, read now? Post: 43 of 55 From: awang@plains.NoDak.edu (Dopey (Andy Wang)) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.announce Subject: GCL 1.0 Binaries available Keywords: GCL, Common LISP, programming Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 14:14:39 GMT Reply-To: awang@plains.NoDak.edu (Dopey (Andy Wang)) Followup-To: comp.os.linux.misc Organization: None Lines: 37 Approved: linux-announce@tc.cornell.edu (Matt Welsh) I recently uploaded the binaries for SAVITR login: j Primary-site:Password: Login incorrect SAVITR login: 8941 bytes gcl-1.0.bin.tgz Alternate-site: Password: Login incorrect SAVITR login: ite: Password: Login incorrect 0`x`pfx 0f@x f~@~` 195> SAVITR 0f<~pff`fff`x~xx``x`~ SAVITR login: 213 SAVITR login: SAVITR login: > 214> SAVITR login: 215> 216> 213 217Password: Login incorrect SAVITR login: login: 220> 221> ------------------------------ From: sumner@justcomp.com (Sumner West) Subject: ost: 7 Date: Mon, 26 Sep 94 15:37:22 PDT 35 of 1121 From: rob@pePassword: Login incorrect SAVITR login: .linux.misc Subject: RePassword: Login incorrect SAVITR login: e: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 07:38:33 GMT Reply-To: pe1cPassword: Login incorrect : PE1CHL Lines: 39 In <1994Sep21.220139.19769@pvi.com> chrisj@pvi.com (Christopher Michael Joslyn) writes: >In article <35pd43$i7@myrddin.imat.com>, >Michael_Nelson wrote: >>Recently, when attempting to build some applications (one was yamm), I've >>encountered a problem where the application will #include >> 0` SAVITR login: 78 > 79> SAVITR login:Password: Login incorrect SAVITR login: 82> 83> > 84> SAVITR login: SAVITR login: Password: Login incorrect SAVITR login: gin incorrect 90> Password: Login incorrect > SAVITR login: 95> 96> 97> 98> 82> 99> 100> 101> 102> 83> > 103> 104> 105> 106> 84> 107> 108> 109> 110> 111> 112> 113> SAVITR login: 114> 115> 116> SAVITR login: Password: 117> 118> Login incorrect 119> 120> 121> 122> 123> SAVITR login: gin incorrect ------------------------------ From: sumner@justcomp.com (Sumner West) Subject: Re: ext2 QUESTIONS (Unix answers) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 94 15:41:54 PDT mjf@clark.net (Marc Fraioli) writes: > In article 328@elmgate.raster.Kodak.Com, eoh@raster.kodak.com (Esther Heller > >Your questions are basically Unix, not Linux. > > > Perhaps, but... > > >1. The reserved 5% of disc space gives you a very small amount of elbow > >room to get in and clean up things when your file system fills up for > >whatever reason. If the reason is some program merrily and unexpectedly > >writing a huge file of trash you will be grateful for the system stopping > >it before you don't even have enough space to look for it. As someone > >who has cleaned out file systems at 103% capacity, leave it on _all_ > >partitions. Trust me on this one! > > > Didn't the BSD fast filesystem suffer pretty dramatic performance > degradation if this was set to 0? I believe that keeping a certain > amount of space free allows it to better resist fragmentation, > keeping it quick. Don't know if this applies to ext2 as well, but > it might. Of course, the reason you give is plenty valid too. > > --- > Marc Fraioli | "They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist- " > mjf@clark.net | - Last words of Union General John Sedgwick, > | Battle of Spotsylvania Court House, U.S. Civil War > > ------------------------------ From: sumner@justcomp.com (Sumner West) Subject: assword: Date: Mon, 26 Sep 94 15:42:17 PDT Login incorrect SAVITR login: f the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM [SYPassword: Login incorrect 1122) What next? Post: 801 of 1122 From: spritcha@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Steven Pritchard) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Seeking modem advice, experiences Date: 22 Sep 1994 22:02:56 -0600 Organization: University of Denver, Math/CS Dept. Lines: 20 NNTP-Posting-Host: nyx10.cs.du.edu X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #3 (NOV) haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (James H. Haynes) writes: >Last night I noticed there are internal 14.4K modems selling as low as $75, >and 28.8 SAVITR login: t1=% 9demon.co.u k (Jag) Newsgroups: comPassword: Login incorrect SAVITR login: : >>> BIG DISK DRIVES <<< Date: Thu, 22 Sep 199Password: Login incorrect SAVITR login: 18 Cc: Jag 201> SAVITR login: 202> 203> 200 204Password: Login incorrect SAVITR login: login: 207> 208> Password: Login incorrect SAVITR login: 210> ------------------------------ From: shamim@ickenham.isu.edu (Shamim P. Mohamed) Subject: Re: Is Linux faster than Os/2? Please help. Date: 26 Sep 1994 17:04:33 -0600 In article <35r1n8$8e5@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>, Jeffrey Nipp wrote: >The real question is: Why would you want to write a THESIS on emax and >latex? Because my life is finite? LaTeX just does a better job of typesetting than any WYSIWYG editor I have seen. With the number of changes you have to make to get a dissertation out the door, WYSIWYG is insanity. Show me any WYSIWYG editor that can include and preview EPS like LaTeX/dvips/ghostscript, or set math like you can with LaTeX. Also, it's very easy to get all the stupid formatting details that Graduate Colleges have, and then once the style file is written, voila! So I just had to put in "dissertation" in the first line, and I knew it would be accepted by the University. I knew all the page numbers, section numbers, equation numbers, figure numbers, indices, bibliography, etc. etc. would be right. (And then I changed that one word to "tr" and got a departmental Tech Report.) Sure WYSIWYG's are peachy keen and neato, and the chicks dig it, but they didn't quite do what I needed. (Or what the Graduate College wanted.) And then when you factor in the cost ($0), and the robustness (there are very few commercial packages as solid as TeX) there is no contest. And all that was on a Sun Sparc, and I am delighted that everything works exactly the same on this Linux/X11 PC I'm using now. > ... and >Microsoft (shudder) also have robust (more robust) word processing >programs That's a good one! >is any time you have invested in learning EMACS. All of the traditional >desktop apps will be much easier to learn and use, but if you already >know EMACS backwards, forewards and sideways, it is probably too late to >make a big switch, although I learned most of Word's pertinent features >in a couple of days. This was not really a factor - I just use emacs as a text editor, and learning ^B ^F etc. is no different from learning whatever you have to to use the "desktop apps". Emacs even has an online tutorial and help that you can use at any time. I can even point and click with the mouse, use scrollbars and pull-down menus etc. if I want to. -s -- Shamim Mohamed shamim@math.isu.edu "Take this cross and garlic; here's a Mezuzah if he's Jewish; a page of the Koran if he's a Muslim; and if he's a Zen Buddhist, you're on your own." Member of the League for Programming Freedom - write to lpf@uunet.uu.net ------------------------------ From: ENRICO@farm.rug.nl (P. Enrico) Subject: 3D CAD for Linux? Help! Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 12:44:10 GMT Hi all, I'm desperately looking for a good 3D CAD for Linux, doesn't matter (well..) if is free or not. So far I've only found Siscad, but it's first a 2D CAD and then it's also (unfortunately) in german! Could anybody please help me? Thanx a lot in advance! -paolo ***************************************************************************** If you keep an open mind people will throw a lot of garbage in it! **** Paolo Enrico enrico@farm.rug.nl ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: fnrjh@dev103.elmer.alaska.edu (root) Subject: Re: SCO WordPerfect: does it run on Linux? Date: 26 Sep 1994 23:32:20 GMT Jeff Arnholt (arnholt@mayo.edu) wrote: : I use WP at work on a SparcStation. I use WP under Windows : at home. WP is the only utility I'm missing from my : Linux arsenal. Questions: does it run under Linux? What problems : have people encountered? Would anybody recommend it? : I should sadly note that the Windows version is much faster : than the SparcStation (the Sun having >3x mips), but of course not as : reliable. I'd guess that SCO WP is like molasses. : I'd appreciate any comments, preferably mail (arnholt@mayo.edu) : Many thanks. : --- : : Jeff Arnholt: mail arnholt@mayo.edu : Mayo Medical and Graduate Schools : 200 1st St. SW, Rochester, MN 55905 YES!!! I am runing WP for SCO on my linux box right now. It is FAST! I have 5.1 and went through some contortions to get it running. But now it works. There is a demo version on ftp.wordperfect.com that is derived from the first version of Wp for SCO. It is REALY slow. I am happy to say that my copy is not. First I copied the IBCS2 files to my machine. /pub/linux/ALPHA/ibcs2 from tsx-11.mit.edu and installed them. recompiled it and the kernel. I am using 1.1.42 of Linux. Then loaded it via insmod iBCS in my rc.local file. Then I hacked the install for 5.1 and now I can run it. I just cd to wordperfect/wpbin and run xwp. Never used the terminal version of wp. Just the X version. Hope this helps. Robert fnrjh@dev103.elmer.alaska.edu ------------------------------ From: teekilpi@euroni.cs.utu.fi (Teemu Kilpivuori) Subject: Re: which is better: Mitsumi or Panasonic CDROM? Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 13:25:45 GMT : >The specs are lying. The Panasonic is faster than the Mitsumi. : What evidence do you have for that ? Yeah,what. As I understand, Panasonic doesn't use IRQ nor DMA, only software polling, which makes it slower,and it causes more CPU-load than Mitsumi with IRQ and DMA enabled. I have tested both drives, and seen that myself, which is why I bought a Mitsumi. -- _________________________ /______________________ | Address:Teemu Kilpivuori | _________________ /| | YO-Kylä 1B25 | | |_______________|_| | 20540 Turku | |/______________________| Voice :921-2543427 |__________________________/ Email :teekilpi@utu.fi ------------------------------ From: pruyss@nessy.rug.ac.be (Piet Ruyssinck) Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc Subject: WD AC2540 or QUANTUM LPS540 - which one should I buy ? Date: 29 Sep 1994 08:43:46 GMT Hello, I'm about to buy a second harddisk of about half gigabyte. I've asked prices for both the Western Digital (Caviar) CA2540 and the QUANTUM LPS540 Pricewise they're comparable. Hence my question : Which one should I buy ? Or should I go for yet another brand ? There are some constaints that limit my choice : I have an IDE controller (which I don't intend to replace) and the drive should coexist with my current drive, which is a Seagate 1239A (a 240 megabyte drive). All advice is greatly appreciated ! Thanks a lot in advance, Piet -- | Piet RUYSSINCK Piet.Ruyssinck@rug.ac.be | | Department of Data Analysis +32 9 264 4733 | | University of Ghent (RUG) | | Krijgslaan 281, building S9 (ARC), B-9000 Ghent, Belgium | ------------------------------ From: Mitchum.DSouza@mrc-apu.cam.ac.uk (Mitchum DSouza) Subject: Re: Linux AMD Problems Date: 29 Sep 1994 09:19:50 GMT In article <365pfi$h1t@aqua.rerf.or.jp>, demarest@rerf.or.jp (Timothy Demarest) writes: |> Sean Watkins (sean@tcel.com) wrote: |> |> : Hi, |> |> : After labouring several hours to get AMD working, I have come to the |> : ultimate conclusion that AMD coupled with NIS under Linux is broken. |> : Following example summarizes: |> |> < STUFF ABOUT AMD DELETED > |> : -- |> : Sean Watkins |> : sean@tcel.com |> |> Sean: |> |> I am running AMD here on Linux, and if you look in one of the |> Makefiles (I can't remember which) it says that LINUX DOES NOT |> SUPPORT NIS MAPS (YET)! AGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!! |> |> I about freaked out when I read this, after several frustrating |> hours. Rule #1: Read all stuff. |> |> Hope this helps! Anyone know when amd *will* support NIS |> maps? When I ported AMD to linux a very long while ago, we did not have *any* NIS/YP implementation. Currently we have at least two. So if you want NIS support then just take out the hash sign (#) from the config/Makefile.linux line that says HAS_NIS_MAPS and recompile. But dont forget that the YP implementation must also integrally support the automount map as a valid map in its domain. Since I use NYS I am sure that it does. Your mileage may vary with the YP implementation that is in libc. 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