From: Digestifier To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Mon, 3 Oct 94 14:13:41 EDT Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #871 Linux-Misc Digest #871, Volume #2 Mon, 3 Oct 94 14:13:41 EDT Contents: Re: New unix new GUI (philip m. thompson) Re: Don't use Linux or it's to academic! (Harald T. Alvestrand) NYC Linux Meeting at Unix Expo - Tuesday Oct4 (ACC Corp.) Re: Linux archives mirror map (Erik Troan) Re: Linux Documentation (Erik Troan) [Q] Driver for braille-box? (Matthias Bruestle) Re: Play Audio CD's on Linux? (Wolfgang Kalthoff) Re: kcore [Q] (Markus Haendel) Re: moxftp 2.2 for mosaic (Robert S. Cauthorn) Re: Telnet & ftp freeze! (Seppo Kallio) Postgres Front End (?Ingres ditto) (Ted Harding) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pmt@cyberspace.net (philip m. thompson) Crossposted-To: alt.fan.linus-torvalds Subject: Re: New unix new GUI Date: 3 Oct 1994 15:03:55 GMT Sami Cokar (cokars@cuug.ab.ca) wrote: : Now, : if only someone would design a FD interface that isn't : based on millions of layers.... Feel free to design one! ------------------------------ From: hta@uninett.no (Harald T. Alvestrand) Subject: Re: Don't use Linux or it's to academic! Date: 3 Oct 1994 06:59:49 GMT In article , mark@gcs.com (Mark Bolzern) writes: |> In article <7PIWkunLQ994071yn@oslonett.no>, |> Svein Erik Brostigen wrote: |> >What amazes me, is that there are so few from the commercial world in |> >this fora, only from the academic world. Maybe I should take that as |> >a sign telling me that this is of purely academic interest at the |> >moment. Statements like this always make me run to my Linux Counter database. A VERY fast grep on simple registrations only gave me: aun% grep 'edu:' countlist | wc -l 1229 aun% grep 'com:' countlist | wc -l 1097 This does not weed out duplicates, does not count "form" entries, and generally only leaves a rough idea, but still... What is more amazing is that the relation between "home" use and "work" use is just about the same in both groups: aun% grep 'com:' countlist | grep 'home' | wc -l 894 aun% grep 'com:' countlist | grep 'work' | wc -l 234 aun% grep 'edu:' countlist | grep 'home' | wc -l 986 aun% grep 'edu:' countlist | grep 'work' | wc -l 281 That is, 75% home, 25% work. Linux is not for academics only. But most of us use it at home. (According to my estimates, between 37.000 and 950.000 use it at work. This is not an insignificant number) -- Harald Tveit Alvestrand Harald.T.Alvestrand@uninett.no G=Harald;I=T;S=Alvestrand;O=uninett;P=uninett;C=no +47 73 59 70 94 My son's name is Torbjørn. The letter between "j" and "r" is o with a slash. ------------------------------ From: info@acc-corp.com (ACC Corp.) Subject: NYC Linux Meeting at Unix Expo - Tuesday Oct4 Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 13:45:57 GMT There will be a New York City (and region) Linux Users Group meeting at Unix Expo at New York's Jacob Javits Center on Tuesday October 4, at 5.30pm. It will be in the conference room area on the lowest level. Please check at the NYC Linux Users Booth #1888 for the room number (or with the Linux Journal's booth 1881) during the show, ie before 5pm. The general theme of the evening will be "ask the guru", and we will be trying to encourage as much interaction between the attendees as possible. There will be a panel of knowledgable Linux users on hand to discuss issues from how to configure hardware, to the future of the Linux OS for both recreational (DOOM) and corporate use. The Panel will include: Michael K. Johnson, editor of the Linux Journal. Michael Johnston, President of Morse, Publishers of the Slackware Professional 2.0 Linux CD Package. Marc Ewing, Developer of the new Redhat Linux Distribution. H. J. Lu, Coordinator of the Linux Developers Tools project. The goal will be to have the "audience" contribute as much as possible. So come out and meet many of the local and a few national Linuxers. There will be even be give aways and we'll invite some suppliers of Linux products and tools, who will be at the show, such as the Linux Journal crew, to drop by. You can get a complimentary exhibits pass by registering electronically by telnetting to: blenheim.com and logging in as: unix94 choose your terminal mode (ansi or vt100) and fill in the form. It did odd things when I registered, but seemed to work. See you Tuesday. Cheers, Bob Young, bob@acc-corp.com ACC Bookstores "Home of the PC UNIX - Linux Catalog" 1 (800) 546-7274 info@acc-corp.com ------------------------------ From: ewt@tipper.oit.unc.edu (Erik Troan) Subject: Re: Linux archives mirror map Date: 3 Oct 1994 15:07:33 GMT In article , Scott Barker wrote: >Is there any one "official" site where any or all of the following are kept? > > Documentation The LDP archives at sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/docs/LDP are official, as are the HOWTO and faqs there. The Linux-faq is actually at ftp.cam-orl.co.uk but sunsite mirrors that nightly. > Source/binaries for applications Which application? X is at ftp.x.org, tex is probably somewhere at Stanford, gcc is at prep (w/ binaries at tsx-11, mirrored to sunsite), etc. There are thousands of applications, many of which aren't on sunsite or tsx-11. > Source/binaries for kernel development Source is at ftp.funet.fi, mirrored to sunsite and probably to tsx-11 as well. No binaries should be considerd official - just officical parts of the various distributions. >I'm trying to set up a mirror at my site, and I need to know where to fetch >everything. I believe the home site for Slackware is ftp.cdrom.com, and the >home site for Debian is sunsite.unc.edu >However, the various source, binaries and especially documentation seem to be >different at each of tsx-11, sunsite and funet. I guess I'm mostly interested >in where the developers in each of those categories put their stuff. Depends on the developer. Erik -- ============================================================================ "Like a fool I let dreams become great expectations" - Chess Erik Troan = ewt@sunsite.unc.edu = http://sunsite.unc.edu/ewt ------------------------------ From: ewt@tipper.oit.unc.edu (Erik Troan) Subject: Re: Linux Documentation Date: 3 Oct 1994 15:09:26 GMT In article <1994Oct2.164453.26932@cs.cornell.edu>, Matt Welsh wrote: > >It certainly should be. Sunsite's FTP seems to be flaky over the >last few days. You can get the LDP files from tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux >if you can't get sunsite to cooperate. > Sunsite's has found some bugs in the OS it's now running. The problems should be fixd by now, but more may crop up. Sorry for all of this trouble, but uploading a network server that hands out well over 6 gigabytes of info a day is bound to run into problems. Erik -- ============================================================================ "Like a fool I let dreams become great expectations" - Chess Erik Troan = ewt@sunsite.unc.edu = http://sunsite.unc.edu/ewt ------------------------------ From: m@mbsks.franken.de (Matthias Bruestle) Subject: [Q] Driver for braille-box? Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 20:01:24 GMT Mahlzeit Is there a driver for a braille-box available? It is connected through the parallel port. Mahlzeit -- A leap ahead... through insanity. ------------------------------ From: wo@rio70.bln.sni.de (Wolfgang Kalthoff) Subject: Re: Play Audio CD's on Linux? Date: 3 Oct 1994 09:37:48 +0100 Reply-To: wo@rio70.bln.sni.de (Wolfgang Kalthoff) try workman, should be included with slackware keep linuxing Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Kalthoff | S iemens | email: wo@rio70.bln.sni.de Gustav-Meyer-Allee 1 | N ixdorf | kalthoff.bln@sni.de D-13355 Berlin | I nformation Systems | Tel: +49-30-4673-2951 Fax: 2915 ============================================================================= ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help From: markus@dyob.lahn.de (Markus Haendel) Subject: Re: kcore [Q] Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 09:15:16 GMT In article <199409301555.LAA24471@freenet.carleton.ca>, Frank J. Potolo wrote: >I have a 16M file in /proc/kcore. Is it ok to delete it? ROTFL! You can't delete it. The only way to remove is, you have to remove your ram. But believe it or not the 16M file don't use a bit of your disk-space. Bye, Markus -- - Ist das Problem unserer Zeit mangelndes Wissen oder fehlendes Interesse? - Weiss ich nicht, ist mir egal! ------------------------------ From: cauthorn@indirect.com (Robert S. Cauthorn) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help Subject: Re: moxftp 2.2 for mosaic Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 01:46:13 UNDEFINED In article <36ml6p$qp9@bigboote.WPI.EDU> alman@strangiato.res.wpi.edu (Benjamin Alman) writes: >From: alman@strangiato.res.wpi.edu (Benjamin Alman) >Subject: moxftp 2.2 for mosaic >Date: 2 Oct 1994 15:56:09 GMT >does anyone out there have the moxftp (compiled for mosaic) binaries (and >man page(s), docs, app-default-files, etc) they can .tar up and put up for >ftp somewhere? I'm running linux, but I don't have the space to compile >this myself... Could anyone help me out? THANKS! >PLEASE reply be email if possible.. thanks! You can get the binaries at sunsite, if memory serves. Look in /pub/X11/motif (or something like that). There will be two files, moxftp.tar.z and mftp.tar.z -- the second one is the binary, the first is the source. Bob cauthorn@indirect.com ------------------------------ From: kallio@network.cc.jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.admin Subject: Re: Telnet & ftp freeze! Date: 3 Oct 1994 10:53:03 +0200 System Administrator (root@jaguar.tigerden.com) wrote: : First, the original problem as I originally mentioned it: : We are running slip to our internet provider, and intermittantly : experience telnet lockups during logins. The system either 1) refuses : connections 2) accepts the connection, but just sits 3) provides a login : prompt, takes input, and never gives the password prompt (ususally : creating a login zombie in the process). Hip! I have exactly same problmes 1 and 2 without slip !!!!!!! Not the problem 3. I have a 66MHz 486 + 32MB RAM + 2GB disk + 2000 (!) user accounts in my Linux box. Usually it works nice, but sometimes the whole net software seems to do nothing with the new connections. Login opens the window and connects, but no "login:" prompt. Same problems with smtp connections, they jammmm similar way. I think all telnet connections hang somehow or are extremely slow. In the begining I got "no more sockets" to the /usr/adm/messages. I doubled the socket tables in kernel. It did actually not help, expect I am not getting "no more sockets" into the /usr/adm/messages. My laste experiment: I did delete smtp from inetd.conf and started to run sendmail directly "standalone". I do not know if it helps. I have not had problems after that, but the week is in the begining. :-( : Additional information/trends noticed: : If the lockup occurs, allowing the telnet session with the locked : connection to sit while starting another is *always* successful. This is interesting. I have not noticed that. Must check it next time if I have same situation. Seppo Kallio kallio@jyu.fi U of Jyvaskyla Finland ------------------------------ From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Ted Harding) Subject: Postgres Front End (?Ingres ditto) Date: 3 Oct 1994 14:01:43 -0400 Reply-To: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Ted Harding) | From: rik@parsec.nl (Rik Zandvoort) | Subject: Suitable front-end to postgres ? | Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 09:45:46 GMT | | Postgres seems to work fine with linux, but writing applications is not that | easy. | | Does there exist any front end that is ported to Linux? | And where can I find it? | And the same question for INGRES? Any useful answers would be much appreciated. Ted. 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