From: Digestifier To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Mon, 3 Oct 94 18:13:28 EDT Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #873 Linux-Misc Digest #873, Volume #2 Mon, 3 Oct 94 18:13:28 EDT Contents: Re: NEWBIE!: How do i Print from GS (not over LPR!) (John Palaima) Re: PPP chat script (Piotr Kapiszewski) Is there any way to run Windows software. (C.W. Southern) Help with NFS! (Eric Stajda) Help! Seyon hangs when started (Konstantin Kostov) Re: Don't use Linux or it's to academic! (John Palaima) Re: Linux mentioned in PC Week (John Palaima) Email for InfoMagic ??? (andre jean francois) Re: Nailed down to 386bsd or linux, now which one? (Gerry Simmons Jr.) Re: PLS recommend a G++ debugger ( with or without X ) (Jeff Kesselman) Re: 56.6 Kb simulated with 2 28.8Kb modems. Is it possible? (Rob Janssen) general protection failure (Bill Heiser) Where is infomagic? (FORSEILLES STEPHAN) Re: Announce: inetd for term (ADAM P JENKINS) Re: Yggdrasil Linux Plug and Play CD ver1.1 ? (Paul Bash) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jolt@gnu.ai.mit.edu (John Palaima) Subject: Re: NEWBIE!: How do i Print from GS (not over LPR!) Date: 3 Oct 1994 18:09:53 GMT >: I have a PostScript File that's over 1.6 Megs great, and if i >: [snip] > >Use "lpr -s filename", which should not copy the file physically >to the spool directory but make a link to it instead. Of course you >must NOT modify the file while it is printed. another option (if you have the disk space available) is to add "mx#0" to your /etc/printcap -- "man printcap" sez that mx specifies the maximum size file that can be printed (or something similar :) and that a value of 0 means no limit. This just went by in col.h (I think :) a while back... -- Richard Cooley Extraordinaire "Yeah. Arrgh." rcooley96@dgl.ssc.mass.edu ssa95isa29@mecn.mass.edu My opinions, not anyone elses. rcooley@nyx.cs.du.edu ------------------------------ From: kapis-p@cs.Buffalo.EDU (Piotr Kapiszewski) Subject: Re: PPP chat script Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 00:38:54 GMT Ahmad S. Alrasheedan (asr@kpc01.q8petroleum.com.kw) wrote: : Please, please, please....I need a chat script for PPP login. : I am open for any contribution :-)) You can try getting stuff via anonymous ftp from: darksun.cs.buffalo.edu [128.205.107.24] /pub/ppp That machine is running on a ppp link so be patient. -Kapi : Thanx -- Kapi, 542 Baldy Hall, 645-2448 ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help From: cws9669@ultb.isc.rit.edu (C.W. Southern) Subject: Is there any way to run Windows software. Reply-To: cws9669@ultb.rit.edu () Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 00:17:30 GMT I am looking for a way to run windows software on my Liunx Box. I have checked out WINE but it won't cut it right now. Is there a version of SoftPC that will run under Linux. I am willing to pay for this if there is. thanks. -- Chris Southern RIT Computer Science E-mail: cws9669@ultb.rit.edu WWW: http://ultb.rit.edu/~cws9669 ------------------------------ From: stajdae@rh.wl.com (Eric Stajda) Subject: Help with NFS! Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 14:26:57 UNDEFINED Hello, We are trying to mount a file system from our HP9000 to our Linux box.... In the FSTAB we have the following command: hp.el.com:\users\smith \tempmount nfs timeo=14,intr In the rc.inet2 we have: mount -a -t nfs We receive the following error on bootup: mount clntudp_create: RPC: program not registered Could anyone help with hints on how to solve this problem? Please post reply. Thanks, Eric ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help From: kostov@kff1.uchicago.edu (Konstantin Kostov) Subject: Help! Seyon hangs when started Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 00:58:54 GMT Dear Netters, I have a problem starting Seyon. The modem doesn't respond to anything I do. /dev/modem was originally linked to /dev/cua3, which produced a "modem read error". After relinking /dev/modem to other devices the best result I got was with /dev/ttyS1 which doesn't give any errors, but nothing happens when I try to dial, or type anything in the term emulator window. I've tried all plausible devices in /dev with no success. The modem is hooked to com4, and I have used all the settings that work with DOS in the starup file. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance Konstantin ------------------------------ From: jolt@gnu.ai.mit.edu (John Palaima) Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy Subject: Re: Don't use Linux or it's to academic! Date: 3 Oct 1994 18:21:14 GMT In article , Irtegov Dmitry Valentinovich wrote: >`Fatal Error: Cannot enter Windows, try Doors instead' This is beautiful...guess it's time to update my .sig, if you don't mind? please? please? :) :) -- Richard Cooley Extraordinaire "Yeah. Arrgh." rcooley96@dgl.ssc.mass.edu ssa95isa29@mecn.mass.edu My opinions, not anyone elses. rcooley@nyx.cs.du.edu ------------------------------ From: jolt@gnu.ai.mit.edu (John Palaima) Subject: Re: Linux mentioned in PC Week Date: 3 Oct 1994 18:41:20 GMT In article <1994Oct1.211812.27030@abo.fi>, Mats 'MaDsen' Wikholm wrote: > >NT stands for New Technology, hah, what's new about 32-bti operating >systems? ... for Micro$oft, multitasking etc. *is* new technology! Or did you mean in absolute terms? :) > I'm not really a big fan of MicroSloth, if you didn't guess me neither. But then, who is? :) >and this was just my $.01 worth :) me too. > . . Linux, the way to get rid of boot viruses oooh, more .sig fodder :) -- Richard Cooley Extraordinaire "Yeah. Arrgh." rcooley96@dgl.ssc.mass.edu ssa95isa29@mecn.mass.edu My opinions, not anyone elses. rcooley@nyx.cs.du.edu ------------------------------ From: andre@ie2_22.ie2.u-psud.fr (andre jean francois) Subject: Email for InfoMagic ??? Date: 3 Oct 1994 15:31:03 GMT I did not receve my august release of LINUX, and when I try to send then an Email I can't join then. What's wrong ??? Does anyone have there adress ??? Thank you from a desesperate Guy . JEF. ------------------------------ From: simmons@darykon.wa.com (Gerry Simmons Jr.) Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc Subject: Re: Nailed down to 386bsd or linux, now which one? Date: 3 Oct 1994 14:24:39 GMT Po-Han Lin (plin@girtab.usc.edu) wrote: : Ok, I didn't know QNX costs major money. So I am considering : either 386bsd or linux. One person said I should get linux because : 386bsd is monolithic (controlled I guess), while linux is non-monolithic. : Now the question is, which os better? Better as in... : 1) least bugs, and stable IMPORTANT! : 2) more software available that runs on it : 3) faster : 4) more compliance to POSIX (I think standards are good, or am I wrong) : 5) more people using it. : 6) more support for third-party hardware (VLB, EISA, modems, etc) IMPORTANT! : 7) platform for programming. : I hope someone can seriously asnwer these questions. Note that Im not : trying to start a flame. I appropriately crossposted only to the : relevant newsgroups that discuss these two operating systems. I : don't want to waste time downloading 50 or so megabytes and find out : that the other OS is better. Has anyone actually used both systems? : -- Well, I'll just relate some of my experiences to you. I'm currently running NetBSD. HAve been since Feb '94. In Apr '94 I bought an adaptec 2842 VLB SCSI board. I also have an adaptec 1542 board. The reason I bought the 2842 was because I have 32 Meg in my system and with the ISA 1542 I could only have 16Meg or using a SCSI device crashed my system. I bought this under my own premis that if the 1542 was supported than the newer, faster VLB board of course would be supported. Here's where it started. I started perusing these groups to get any info on a 2842. First thing I'm told is that Adaptec are being butts, not letting any information go, and insisting that anyone writing such a driver needed to sign an NDA (non-disclosure agreement,) and no source was to be provided. Well I called Adaptec. I'm a hardware engineer and have had good dealings with Adaptec in the past. Well I did get kind of a "butt" response from a person in Tech. Support, but this isn't the first time. So I pressed him on the issue, and he suggested I talk to their Tech. Publ. Hotline or something. Well, to make a long story short, I have Tech. Ref. Manuals on the 274x and 284x as well as on the AIC-7770 RISC processor on the board. During this time I heard that someone in the Linux camp was developing the driver. Yea! The person who got me up and running on NEtBSD said it was possible we could port the driver to NetBSD. Someone else tried to convince me to run Linux. Well trying to be an open minded person, I ordered the InfoMagic Linux CD. WOW! This CD had XFree86 source and binaries, Sunsite.unc.edu and more archives, 4 distributions of Linux, GNU archives, even a preliminary version of WINE (Windows Emulator.) I thought well there must be a CD like this for NetBSD. The nearest I've found is TransAmeritech, which is still predominantly a Linux CD, but they also carry a NetBSD distribuition. Mind you I don't know what version. Well the guy working on the Linux driver posted something in the USENET about having a pre-alpha version at rev. 5 on an ftp-site. I promptly grabbed it and took a look. Now I've never coded anything for UNIX before, but have wriiten a few drivers for :-( DOS. I posted a note just 2 days ago asking for info on porting this driver to NetBSD. Some nice gentleman E-mailed me saying it was impossible since LINUX was developed under GPL, which I later deduced was the GNU Public License. He said none of this Linux person's code could be used. Now excuse me, but this seems in direct confrontation with the excuse I heard 2 months ago about how Adaptec insisted to source code be provided, where GPL insists that source code be provided. Needless to say, I'm looking at the real possibility, much as I don't want to, of switching to Linux. :-( I happen to like NetBSD a great deal. Gerry Simmons simmons@darykon.wa.com ------------------------------ From: jeffpk@netcom.com (Jeff Kesselman) Subject: Re: PLS recommend a G++ debugger ( with or without X ) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 00:46:47 GMT In article <36ndng$4cn@sand.cis.ufl.edu>, Daniel Damon Roscigno wrote: >I am a new C++ programmer and am looking for a debugger for Linux >I am currently running Slackware 1.1 with kernel .99pl14 >I will be upgrading to a later version when I get my new CD >next week or so. X is not important, I just would like to be >able to step through code and set a few breakpoints. > >Thanks! >Dan. If you are using gnu c/c++, then yous shoudl already have gdb, the gnu debugger. If not, grab a copy from one oft he zillion gnu sites... ------------------------------ From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) Subject: Re: 56.6 Kb simulated with 2 28.8Kb modems. Is it possible? Reply-To: pe1chl@rabo.nl Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 20:34:57 GMT In <36dajc$df0@ndlc.occ.uky.edu> bealar@ndlc.occ.uky.edu (Andy Beal) writes: >matt kracht (kracht42@matrix.newpaltz.edu) wrote: >: Juana Moreno (madrid@gandalf.rutgers.edu) wrote: >: : I just had this idea. There must be a way to simulate a 56.6 Kb connection >: : without the need unconventional equipment (from the home user point of view, >: : I mean). May be with just 2 28.8 modems connected to 2 regular phone lines and >: : some smart low level packet routing ( choosing for a packet the least busy >: : line) it has to be possible. >How do you plan to split (and rejoin) the signals? That is a task which IP (and TCP) routinely performs... > What happens if one >modem gets a fuzzy line? Its queue will get longer because it cannot get data moved, and the other modem will take more of the load. > That would cause it to hang or fall back to a >lower speed, what happens then? Same thing. Rob -- ========================================================================= | Rob Janssen | AMPRnet: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org | | e-mail: pe1chl@rabo.nl | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8UTR.#UTR.NLD.EU | ========================================================================= ------------------------------ From: bill@bhhome.ci.net (Bill Heiser) Subject: general protection failure Date: 1 Oct 1994 23:07:37 GMT I am having a stability problem with LINUX kernel 1.1.51. I have had similar symptoms with 1.1.4X kernels. Typically the system will run normally for one to four days, then processes start hanging in a "D" state and when new commands are invoked they die with "segmentation fault". The syslog errors look like this: Sep 30 19:32:14 bhhome kernel: general protection: 0000 Sep 30 19:32:14 bhhome kernel: EIP: 0010:00155a84 Sep 30 19:32:14 bhhome kernel: EFLAGS: 00010287 Sep 30 19:32:14 bhhome kernel: eax: 7f840000 ebx: fffa8003 ecx: 7f83f000 edx: 00001e09 Sep 30 19:32:14 bhhome kernel: esi: 0000000b edi: 01e58580 ebp: 00000000 esp: 01a23f30 Sep 30 19:32:14 bhhome kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 002b gs: 002b ss: 0018 Sep 30 19:32:14 bhhome kernel: Process top (pid: 17329, process nr: 33, stackpage=01a23000) Sep 30 19:32:14 bhhome kernel: Stack: 0183b0e4 00000fff 0183b0e4 01126000 00000160 Sep 30 19:32:14 bhhome kernel: Code: 83 39 00 74 65 ff 44 24 2c f6 01 01 74 5c ff 44 24 28 85 db Sep 30 19:32:30 bhhome kernel: general protection: 0000 Sep 30 19:32:30 bhhome kernel: EIP: 0010:00155a84 Sep 30 19:32:30 bhhome kernel: EFLAGS: 00010287 Sep 30 19:32:30 bhhome kernel: eax: 7f840000 ebx: fffa8003 ecx: 7f83f000 edx: 00001e09 Sep 30 19:32:30 bhhome kernel: esi: 0000000b edi: 01e58580 ebp: 00000000 esp: 0119df30 Sep 30 19:32:30 bhhome kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 002b gs: 002b ss: 0018 Sep 30 19:32:30 bhhome kernel: Process top (pid: 17334, process nr: 34, stackpage=0119d000) Sep 30 19:32:30 bhhome kernel: Stack: 0007e2ac 00000fff 0007e2ac 01a84000 00000160 Sep 30 19:32:30 bhhome kernel: Code: 83 39 00 74 65 ff 44 24 2c f6 01 01 74 5c ff 44 24 28 85 db I think this is what is asked for in the kernel source: README 0018592c D _arp_tables 00185918 d _arp_timer 00155e9c t _array_read 00115e4c T _audit_ptree 0016b79c t _autoconfig 0016f468 t _autoirq_probe My hardware configuration is as follows: 486-DX2/66 32mb memory Buslogic BT-445S VLB SCSI-2 HA DEC DSP3107L SCSI-2 disk Maxtor 8345S SCSI-1 disk Archive Viper 2150S tape ATI GUP, 2mb, VLB 32mb swap I am running a connection to the Internet using PPP 2.1.2a. Please let me know if there is anything I should try to help isolate this problem. Also let me know if you need more info. Thanks in advance, Bill Heiser -- Bill Heiser: bill@bhhome.ci.net, heiser@world.std.com ------------------------------ From: sforseil@vub.ac.be (FORSEILLES STEPHAN) Subject: Where is infomagic? Date: 3 Oct 1994 15:22:53 GMT I tried to mail infomagic.com but it bounced... Did they change their IP or did they just shut down theeir business? ++=============================================================++ || Forseilles Stephan || sforseil@ulb.ac.be || || Av. FRISSEN 1/14 || ------------------------------|| || 1160 Bruxelles || Fido: 2:291/705.3503 || || BELGIUM || Phone: +32 2 675-61-09 || ||-------------------------------------------------------------|| || Home Page at http://rcibm.ulb.ac.be:8000/~sforseil || ||-------------------------------------------------------------|| || Anarchy is not disorder. Anarchy is the absence of orders. || ++=============================================================++ ------------------------------ From: apj@twain.ucs.umass.edu (ADAM P JENKINS) Subject: Re: Announce: inetd for term Date: 1 Oct 1994 23:14:01 GMT GASPAROVSKI D. (m3923168@smoke.canberra.edu.au) wrote: : NOTE: You will need at term version 2.1d or greater to use inetd.term! : (version 2.1d can be found at : physics.purdue.edu:/pub/bcr/term/ALPHA/term-2.1d.tar.gz) : >From the README.term: : What is it? : =========== : "inetd.term" is a termified inetd (the internet superserver). It acts : exactly like the normal version except it also handles term connections. : With this, you no longer need to "tredir" on the remotehost. "inetd.term" : will probe for a term connection every 30 seconds, and if it finds one, will : bind() all the ports according to the config files /etc/inetd.conf and : /etc/services. : How to use it : ============= : "inetd.term" acts exactly like the normal version, but with 2 extra : "protocols": termudp and termtcp. Thus, all you need to do is edit : /etc/inetd.conf as you would normally do, with the new protocol desired. : Example : ======= : [snip] : You'll have to ftp it to see the rest. : inetd.term is currently available at: : physics.purdue.edu:/pub/bcr/term/Incoming : sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/Incoming : but should be moved to: : physics.purdue.edu:/pub/bcr/term/extra : sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/apps/comm/termstuff : respectively. : -- : Dan ... : u923168@student.canberra.edu.au (Gasparovski / Daniel (ISE)) : and the living will envy the dead : -- : Send submissions for comp.os.linux.announce to: linux-announce@tc.cornell.edu : Be sure to include Keywords: and a short description of your software. I checked both these places and didn't find it. Has it been moved since this was posted? ============================================================== Adam P. Jenkins apj@twain.ucs.umass.edu ------------------------------ From: pbash@netcom.com (Paul Bash) Subject: Re: Yggdrasil Linux Plug and Play CD ver1.1 ? Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 15:53:39 GMT In article , Jeff Kesselman wrote: >In article <1994Oct3.002210.2485@tware.com>, Paul Bash wrote: >>In article , Jan Willems wrote: >>> >>>Yggdrasil users, >>> >>>I'm stuck with a few questions: >>> >>>- Is there a solution to the above described problem? >>>- Why is it that the fall 1993 CD was allright as far as I knew, >>> the summer 1994 gave me a lot of problems right away and this one won't >>> install simple packages in Xwindows? >>>- Is this really plug & play? Is it my fault? Am I doing things >>> wrong? Did they test it? >>>- Last but not least, are there any other CDROM's that say >>> they are plug & play. I might get me one. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Jan Willems. >> >>Having worked with both of them, the obvious solution to the Yggdrasil >>problems is to junk the CD and buy the Slackware PRO CD. While the Yggdrasil >>CD-ROM shows a lot of promise, it is far behind the Slackware distribution >>in terms of "Plug and Play". >> >>Yggdrasil is cute if you only want to burn 10MB of hard disk space and don't >>mind a _slow_ system running from CD-ROM. Past that, its a mess. One example: > >(various other vitriol deleted...) > >This helpful person, while treating us to his delightful rants, has >deleted the actual question asked to begin with (which figures) so its >kind of hard to help. > >I'm running Yygdrasil fall94 quite nicely. I am EXCEEDINGLY happy with >it, the docs that came with it, and the Linux bible I bought that >Yygdrasil publishes. > >If whomever posted the original question would like to mail it to me, Ill >see if I can help. > >In a democracy everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion.... >(I won't finish that thought. Those of you out there inclined to agree >with me will be able to finish it for yourselves, and this way I don't >start a flame war with anyone else. :) ) > Hi Jeff, Having a nice day? If you will notice, I was not attempting to respond to the original question but, rather, to to Jan's comments. It is quite common, and even expected, to edit out the irrelevant parts of a post you are responding to. Saves bandwidth, so they say. Since you are also on Netcom, I see, then I suggest that you try 1) a decent newsreader that allows you to backup through a thread, like trn and 2) the "P" key (you know, the one just above the ";" key). That will allow you to step back as far as you need to see the beginning of this thread. Or do you just feel like raving on someone who criticizes your baby? As for your aspersions that I have some kind of hard-on for Yggdrasil, I install and maintain UNIX systems (mostly SunOS) as a consultant for a living. I've seen tons of installs and I know a mess when I see one. Other comments in this thread and other threads throughout the Linux newsgroups bear that out. I _did_ say that Yggdrasil shows a lot of promise. It just isn't there yet. My comments were constructive and to the point. Hopefully Yggdrasil will read these and others here and take more care the next time. In the meantime the Slackware distributions I've used have always worked perfectly and give much finer control over the install process. Jan asked if there was a better CD out there and I told him. Do you have a problem with that? -- Paul Bash pbash@netcom.com ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Misc-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.misc) via: Internet: Linux-Misc@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux End of Linux-Misc Digest ******************************