From: Digestifier To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Tue, 4 Oct 94 17:13:22 EDT Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #878 Linux-Misc Digest #878, Volume #2 Tue, 4 Oct 94 17:13:22 EDT Contents: Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz. (Sascha Klein) Bluewave?? (Andre Broers) Re: Linux/FreeBSD ISDN support (Scott Ferguson) Re: Looking for SCO Wordperfect DEMO (James Lewis Nance) I found an answer, thanks (Re: Mosaic for Linux?) (Daniel MORRISON) Converting DIALOGIC's adpcm... (Jan Willems) Re: Beers for Linus (was: Contrib. $s for Linux Dev) (Mitchum DSouza) Re: Slackware 2.0 = no more fsck on boot up?? (K.D. knguyen) where to get wordperfect demo? (Michael Babcock) Linux Thrifty Nickle - Oct. 94 (Randy Hootman) Voice Mail on Linux (Herb Groeger) Re: X News-reader for LinuX (Hans de Graaff) Re: IP Gateway/Forwarding Problem (Jared Reimer) ISA IDE Controller Card, Again (Jiann-Ming Su) Re: tcpdump [short q] (Alan Cox) Re: Are any of the Linux supporet site NFS mountable? (Alan Cox) Re: Hmmm (Mitchum DSouza) Re: Yggdrasil Linux Plug and Play CD ver1.1 ? (pp000932@interramp.com) Re: which is better: Mitsumi or Panasonic CDROM? (AlexR2D42) Re: How can I rank video cards for Linux? (Joe Zulaski) Re: Hmmm (Mitchum DSouza) Re: Nailed down to 386bsd or linux, now which one? (Jerry W Johnson) RFD: comp.os.linux reorganization (Dave Sill) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sklein@ramz.ing.tu-bs.de (Sascha Klein) Subject: Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz. Date: 4 Oct 1994 10:52:15 GMT In article <36nr26$24d@zombie.neu.sgi.com>, ove@zombie.neu.sgi.com (Ove Hansen) writes: ... deleted something ... |> Linux is very good - but not good enough yet to build a "corporate |> network". From my .sig you'll see that I'm somewhat biased - just FYI |> before flaming me - I'm running a large network of SGI machines, I've run |> large networks of Suns, VAXes and Macs - but I've also recommended and |> installed Dell Pentiums + Slackware to friends who needed enough bang but |> didn't have the bucks. Actually, I log in to and use one almost daily. |> *Very* nice indeed - five people on? Don't notice each other. Dead stable |> too (last downtime was planned - and note time before load average...): |> |> hal:~$ w |> 3:37am up 14 days, 12:44, 6 users, load average: 0.01, 0.01, 0.01 |> |> It'd make me throw out my PS/2 with Windows any day but you'll never ever |> see me swapping my Indy for it (DOOM runs well on SGIs too so... :-) |> |> -- |> Ove Hansen - Network Administrator e-mail: ove@neu.sgi.com |> Silicon Graphics Manufacturing S.A. (Switzerland) Phone : (41-38) 433 535 |> Chemin des Rochettes 2, CH-2016 Cortaillod Fax : (41-38) 433 900 Here is some uptime information of our linux-network: frodo up 88+16:44, 0 users, load 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 thorin up 111+22:45, 1 user, load 0.00, 0.00, 0.07 bilbo up 56 +23:25, 1 user, load 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 We use linux-1.0. Everything works ok. Sascha Klein sascha@expmech.ing.tu-bs.de sklein@ramz.ing.tu-bs.de ------------------------------ From: Andre.Broers@prgbbs.idn.nl (Andre Broers) Date: 03 Oct 94 15:32:02 Subject: Bluewave?? Hello, Does someone know if there exists a bluewave reader for linux?? If there exists, where can I get it? thanks, andre.broers@prgbbs.idn.nl -- | Internet: Andre.Broers@prgbbs.idn.nl | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. ------------------------------ From: ferguson@mr.net (Scott Ferguson) Crossposted-To: comp.dcom.isdn,mn.general Subject: Re: Linux/FreeBSD ISDN support Date: 4 Oct 1994 11:27:33 GMT In article , nrd@scrapie.med.umn.edu (Neal Dalton) says: >So, I think everyone should, on principle, call Digiboard and tell them >that they want this [ISDN] support. Great. Let's hassle the poor folks at DigiBoard. Then maybe we can get our phone company, US Wurst, to support ISDN too. (BTW when will MRN support ISDN for dial-IP service?) ------------------------------ From: jlnance@eos.ncsu.edu (James Lewis Nance) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help Subject: Re: Looking for SCO Wordperfect DEMO Date: 4 Oct 1994 11:20:48 GMT Reply-To: jlnance@eos.ncsu.edu (James Lewis Nance) In article <1994Oct3.220248.7563@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, cws9669@ultb.isc.rit.edu (C.W. Southern) writes: > > I am looking for the SCO Workperfect DEMO, so I can check out iBCS on > my Linux box. > > ftp to ftp.wordperfect.com and cd into the directory: UNIX/WP51/DEMOS/SCO get the file sco.z. This is a compressed tar file. If you uncompress it and gzip it it will drop from 8 megs to 5. make a directory on you linux machine, and untar this file in that directory. Get the file wpfix.tar.gz off of sunsite and follow the directions in it. Jim ------------------------------ From: draker@cs.mcgill.ca (Daniel MORRISON) Subject: I found an answer, thanks (Re: Mosaic for Linux?) Date: 29 Sep 1994 05:08:43 GMT In article <36d17p$gps@homer.cs.mcgill.ca>, Daniel MORRISON wrote: >I've been trying to compile NCSA Mosaic under Linux 1.1.13 and having no luck. >I can't seem to configure it properly - can't find a bunch of files in an Xm >directory. Can anyone help? I found other articles that pointed me to sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/slackware/non-commercial-use/m1 Thanx - Daniel -- Daniel `Jeem!' Morrison draker@cs.mcgill.ca | Snail Mail Address indeterminate GMU/CS -d?+ p(-) c+(++++) (!)l u+(-) e+(*) m+*(---) s+/-- !n(---) h-(+) f(+?*) g-(+++) w+++ t+(+++) r y+ Fan of PowerPC MAC!!! Please do not insert snappy witticism here. Rather insert Tab A into Slot B... ------------------------------ From: janw@cs.ruu.nl (Jan Willems) Subject: Converting DIALOGIC's adpcm... Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 13:41:47 GMT Dear netters, Sorry for this non linux subject but I do not know another way to reach the linux dialogic users! I am looking for the algorithm that can convert the dialogic compressed voiceformat to the original sample values. They use something like ADPCM but it's their own version. Is there any existing software that could do it for me? Anyone who can help me? Thanks in advance. BTW: I use the older D41 boards. Regards, Jan Willems. -- -- Jan -- _ Jan Willems, Department of Computer Science,| -0-0- Utrecht University, the Netherlands, | | tel: +31-30-534114, e-mail: janw@cs.ruu.nl | \_/ ------------------------------ From: Mitchum.DSouza@mrc-apu.cam.ac.uk (Mitchum DSouza) Subject: Re: Beers for Linus (was: Contrib. $s for Linux Dev) Date: 4 Oct 1994 13:58:39 GMT In article <36jlkp$m5m@aurora.engr.LaTech.edu>, jfisher@engr.latech.edu (John C. Fisher) writes: |> J.J. Paijmans (paai@kub.nl) wrote: |> : In article <1994Sep27.202537.20069@abo.fi> mwikholm@at8.abo.fi (Mats |> 'MaDsen' Wikholm) writes: |> : >In article <368s4h$1n7@kubds1.kub.nl> paai@kub.nl (J.J. Paijmans) writes: |> : >>Aside from all that: does anybody know what is involved in getting |> : >>bottles with beer to Finland? I understand that the customs over there |> : ... |> [snip...] |> |> What about "RAM for Linus"? Beer probably isn't terribly good for him... |> :-) |> If everyone contributed US$1, we could probably get him quite a bit. |> |> I know! What about "P5-100 for Linus"? :-) Please remember that "Linux" is not Linus (I have nothing against Linus personally). What I mean is that in its current form "Linux" is *much* more than Linus could have achieved (probably) in the same time scale. It is more a melting pot of team skills from around the world, and Linus, (most likely one of the nicest people you are likely to meet), would wholeheartedly agree. Moreover in expectation with this good nature it would be likely that he would decline your offer of money because it makes those people who cannot afford to donate feel alienated (think of those countries where linux has reached - Russia/India where a single dollar is still relatively quite a significant amount). Furthermore it may lead to a scenario of donation competition - (i.e. I gave more than you). To solve some of these problems a trust-fund is being set up, (details to be published), which will serve as center for donations. The aim of this group will be to distribute money for books/software/hardware to the various linux developers, (including this Linus guy whoever he is), and also GNU to whom linux owes so much. Mitch ------------------------------ From: knguyen@cmts.mcl.bdm.com (K.D. knguyen) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help Subject: Re: Slackware 2.0 = no more fsck on boot up?? Date: 04 Oct 1994 17:43:47 GMT Reply-To: knguyen@cwc4.mcl.bdm.com I got the same problem. When I tried to fsck the root file partition (/dev/hdb1) while it is mounted. fsck seems to corrupt the root file system. I had to reinstall Slackware. Unfortunate, I did not remember the error messages from fsck, but the error messages from boot daemon are something about bad blocks are flagged. I am watching to see if this ever happens again. -- ''' K.D. Nguyen (o o) BDM Federal, Inc. =====oOO==(_)==OOo===== jeversme@mcl.bdm.com Laugh and the world thinks you're an idiot. ------------------------------ From: michael@selway.umt.edu (Michael Babcock) Subject: where to get wordperfect demo? Date: 2 Oct 1994 14:48:29 -0600 Anybody know where I can get a copy of the wordperfect demo that runs under linux? ftp.wordperfect.com is apparently dead. Thanks ------------------------------ From: rph@netcom.com (Randy Hootman) Subject: Linux Thrifty Nickle - Oct. 94 Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 05:53:03 GMT The Linux Thrifty Nickle is a way that businesses worldwide can advertize their Linux support and services for free. The October 1994 edition is available for anonymous ftp at ftp.netcom.com:/pub/rph/ltn1094.txt.gz. Enjoy. d8-) Randy Hootman -- /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "In recognizing the humanity of our fellow beings, we pay ourselves the highest tribute." - Thurgood Marshall ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Randy Hootman Randysoft Software (408) 229-0119 ------------------------------ From: herb@mxmsd.msd.measurex.com (Herb Groeger) Subject: Voice Mail on Linux Reply-To: herb@msd.measurex.com Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 12:30:43 GMT Has anyone used a voice mail board with Linux? If so, please let me known. I'd like to set up a voice mail system for my church, and since I'm a Linux advocate, I'd rather not use DOZE. Thanks. ________________________________________________________________________________ Domain: herb@msd.measurex.com Herbert A. Groeger UUCP: ...!uunet!herbws!herb Measurex Management Systems Division Voice: (513)-825-3931 x8924 1280 Kemper Meadow Drive Direct: (513)-595-8924 Cincinnati, Ohio 45240, USA Fax: (513)-825-5393 "Honesty" without compassion and understanding is not honest, but subtle hostility. -- Rose N. Franzblau ------------------------------ From: graaff@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl (Hans de Graaff) Subject: Re: X News-reader for LinuX Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 13:33:06 GMT In article <36k00m$l6k@clarknet.clark.net>, Marc Fraioli wrote: >xvnews is a good one too, if you have the xview libraries installed. >Current version is 2.2 pl1. I think it's on sunsite. Note it only >works with NNTP, I think. Source code to xvnews is available from: ftp.twi.tudelft.nl:/pub/news/xvnews-2.2.1.tar.gz ftp.uu.net:/networking/news/readers/xvnews/* 2.2.1 is indeed the last version, although 2.3 is currently being beta-tested. It does only work with NNTP, and there are currently no plans to support reading articles directly from the spool area. Hans -- Hans de Graaff J.J.deGraaff@TWI.TUDelft.NL Delft University of Technology Department of Information Systems ======================================================================= click me ------------------------------ From: Jared Reimer Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help Subject: Re: IP Gateway/Forwarding Problem Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 07:21:07 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 4 Oct 1994, Brian Weaver wrote: > Do you have a proxyarp entry for the laptop on the > linux machine ? > No. How do I add a "proxyarp" entry on the Linux box? Thanks, Jared ------------------------------ From: js1@microwave1.ph.msstate.edu (Jiann-Ming Su) Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.help,alt.os.linux Subject: ISA IDE Controller Card, Again Date: 4 Oct 1994 14:46:33 GMT Anybody have any experience with the GSI Model 18 and 21 ISA IDE controller cards? What makes these two worth 2 to 3 times more than any other ISA IDE controller card? I don't think they cache. Are they compatible with Linux? ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: tcpdump [short q] Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 13:51:05 GMT In article <940929110320.222040e4@CHIP.FNAL.GOV> DABOUS@CHIP.FNAL.GOV writes: >What is the Linux command to do a "tcpdump"? I type tcpdump on >my linux box and it says command not found! tcpdump - you might find its not part of your distribution - its on sunsite. Alan -- ..-----------,,----------------------------,,----------------------------,, // Alan Cox // iialan@www.linux.org.uk // GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU // ``----------'`----------------------------'`----------------------------'' ------------------------------ From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: Are any of the Linux supporet site NFS mountable? Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 14:00:18 GMT In article <369lu7$rau@wizard.uark.edu> ahightow@comp..uark.edu (Alan Hightower) writes: > > I was wanting to archive the various Linux sites on 1GB read/write >optical drives. It would be easier than ftp'ing if I could NFS mount >the various archive sites and do a cp -r. It'll also cause about ten times the load and take days longer - get the 'mirror' package for mirroring archives - mirror it onto your disk. Alan -- ..-----------,,----------------------------,,----------------------------,, // Alan Cox // iialan@www.linux.org.uk // GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU // ``----------'`----------------------------'`----------------------------'' ------------------------------ From: Mitchum.DSouza@mrc-apu.cam.ac.uk (Mitchum DSouza) Crossposted-To: alt.fan.linus-torvalds Subject: Re: Hmmm Date: 3 Oct 1994 11:58:42 GMT In article <36gabk$23f@plootu.Helsinki.FI>, jrosti@cc.Helsinki.FI (Jussi Rosti) writes: |> In <36du6r$6fj@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mitchum.DSouza@mrc-apu.cam.ac.uk (Mitchum |> DSouza) writes: |> |> >Hey I'm a fan. Have been so since 0.10. Im sure everyone else joined a bit |> more |> >recently. |> |> Oh boy, you're real tough guy! What a forerunner! Hey Thanx :-) Mitch ------------------------------ From: pp000932@interramp.com Subject: Re: Yggdrasil Linux Plug and Play CD ver1.1 ? Date: Tue, 04 Oct 94 10:26:43 PDT The only problems I have found with the Yggrdrasil distribution were related to a few files that were never moved to the HD but kept as a sym-link, even after installing cd independent. This bit me the first time I built the 1.1 (pl 50) kernel. I found make, a86, and a few other odd things that were nessisary to still be linked to the cd. The worst was, after the build and install of the image, one of the utilities ran before lilo in their make-install target was still missing from the local HD. I had a system which no longer booted (replaced system image but not lilo'd). After going back to a boot disk, finding the nessisary piece from the CD, and doing a lilo with a hand-built lilo config file (my root mounted as the CD with floppy boot), I was fine. I like the slackware distribution and similar disk-image based distributions a little better because I feel I have better control over what I get when I install. With the yggdrasil, it's often all or nothing, and sometimes all is not all. For example, I did not want X, but was stuck with it in the yggdrasil distribution, and then had to prune it out. If they could provide more menu choices up front offering finer control over what they install as their base system, or provide a post-install utility script which can 'trim' unwanted files from the HD (either re-symlink to the CD or remove completely) such as, in my case, X from the base system, ada compiler from gnu, etc, then I would be very happy with the Yggrasil distribution. ------------------------------ From: yuriev@astro.ocis.temple.edu (AlexR2D42) Subject: Re: which is better: Mitsumi or Panasonic CDROM? Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 03:29:23 GMT Beeblebrox (M.S.Ashton@dcs.warwick.ac.uk) wrote: : Eberhard_Moenkeberg@p27.rollo.central.de (Eberhard Moenkeberg) writes: : >The specs are lying. The Panasonic is faster than the Mitsumi. : What evidence do you have for that ? : My Linux box running 1.1.45. Best wishes, Alex ------------------------------ From: jzulaski@london.nwest.mccaw.com (Joe Zulaski) Subject: Re: How can I rank video cards for Linux? Date: 4 Oct 1994 14:28:14 GMT In article <36hori$mbd@Ra.MsState.Edu> js1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Jiann-Ming Su) writes: > In article , > Larry Doolittle wrote: > > > >Most accelerators *are* supported by XFree now. Almost all will be > >supported by the next release (3.1) coming out RSN. The notable exceptions > >are some Diamond cards (proprietary clock chips), ATI Mach64, and Matrox. ..edited... > > I thought it was just the Diamonds and Matrox that were not supported. > I was under the impression that the ATI Mach64 is. In fact, our > local linux user's group machine is using the Mach64. I am extremely interested if anyone knows for sure whether the ATI Mach 64 will be supported with the next release (3.1). I am about to purchase a PCI video card and was leaning toward the Mach64. Anyone have any other suggestions? I wish to use a PCI 64 bit card that supports Linux if possible. Thanks, Joe Zulaski ------------------------------ From: Mitchum.DSouza@mrc-apu.cam.ac.uk (Mitchum DSouza) Crossposted-To: alt.fan.linus-torvalds Subject: Re: Hmmm Date: 3 Oct 1994 12:02:52 GMT In article <36g7qq$1pv@classic.iinet.com.au>, michael@iinet.com.au (Michael O'Reilly) writes: |> Mitchum DSouza (Mitchum.DSouza@mrc-apu.cam.ac.uk) wrote: |> |> : Hey I'm a fan. Have been so since 0.10. Im sure everyone else joined |> : a bit more recently. |> |> Not everyone. :) I read thru .10, and started running it at .11. Those |> were the days. None of these newfangled things like pageing, or |> networking, or login's etc. Huh ? What is Natworkin and that logun thing anyway ? Do you think it is worth upgrading from 0.10 ?? What feature does > 0.10 have? |> The REAL thing. When free memory pages were found by searching |> linearly thru memory . ;) (Linus, you reading this? Remember when that |> was pointed out? :) 0.10 forever !!! Mitch ------------------------------ From: jwjohn@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jerry W Johnson) Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc Subject: Re: Nailed down to 386bsd or linux, now which one? Date: 3 Oct 1994 06:59:38 GMT In article <36nd1u$d80@pdq.coe.montana.edu>, Nate Williams wrote: >In article <36djkn$nm8@girtab.usc.edu>, Po-Han Lin wrote: >You were misinformed. Both Linux and the BSD's use monolithic kernels. >For a fun discussion of this, there is a series of articles were Linus ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >and Andy Tanenbaum 'discussed' the merits of both of these when Linux >was in it's infancy. >Nate [snip nate's sig] Might anyone have or know where these articles might be obtained, please? Maybe a more detailed "when", too? TIA. Cheers, --Jerry -- ||=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-||"Thus, the claim about object orientation usually|| ||Jerry W. Johnson ||means only that their latest release was coded in|| ||jwjohn@ecst.csuchico.edu||C++. Big bloody deal." Yourdan,The Decline & Fall|| ||=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-||-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|| ------------------------------ From: Dave Sill Crossposted-To: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.announce Subject: RFD: comp.os.linux reorganization Date: 4 Oct 1994 17:03:48 -0400 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) comp.os.linux reorganization Summary: A number of new groups in the comp.os.linux hierarchy are proposed, one moderated, the rest unmoderated. Proponent: Dave Sill, de5@ornl.gov History: This proposed reorganization was prompted originally by the excessive level of traffic in comp.os.linux.help. Following a straw poll conducted by the proponent, an RFD was posted for breaking comp.os.linux.help into various subgroups and creating comp.os.linux.answers for separating the documentation and announcements currently posted to comp.os.linux.announce. During the discussion period, it became evident that it would be preferable to create the groups directly under comp.os.linux, rather than splitting comp.os.linux.help. This RFD reflects that change. 1) Group: comp.os.linux.answers (moderated) Charter: For posting Linux FAQs, How-To's, and READMEs. This will help keep the traffic down in other c.o.l.* groups and will leave comp.os.linux.announce for true announcements only. C.o.l.answers will be moderated--either by a member of the *.answers moderation team or by an independent moderator. If no one else volunteers, I'd be willing to be the moderator. 2) Group: comp.os.linux.games (unmoderated) Charter: For questions and discussion about game playing under Linux, e.g. Doom. 3) Group: comp.os.linux.hardware (unmoderated) Charter: For questions and discussion specific to a particular piece of hardware, e.g., "can this system run Linux?", "how do I use this disk drive with Linux?", etc. 4) Group: comp.os.linux.networking (unmoderated) Charter: For questions and discussion relating to networking or communications including Ethernet boards, serial communications, SLIP, etc. 5) Group: comp.os.linux.video (unmoderated) Charter: For questions and discussion relating to video hardware or software including XFree86, commercial X servers, svgalib, console modes/fonts, dosemu, etc.) After a discussion period of 21-30 days, if there are not overwhelming objections to any of the proposed groups, there will be a Call For Votes (CFV) posted to the groups as this RFD. The voting period will be at least 21 days. Each group that passes, by receiving 100 more YES votes than NO votes *and* twice as many YES votes as NO votes, will be created. -- Dave Sill (de5@ornl.gov) Martin Marietta Energy Systems, Workstation Support URL http://www.digital.com/info/dsill.html ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Misc-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.misc) via: Internet: Linux-Misc@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux End of Linux-Misc Digest ******************************