From: Digestifier To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Fri, 7 Oct 94 01:13:37 EDT Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #892 Linux-Misc Digest #892, Volume #2 Fri, 7 Oct 94 01:13:37 EDT Contents: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Jim Graham) Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Jim Graham) Re: [Q] WD 1Gig HD + EIDE w/ Linux (Dougal Campbell) Re: Mystery Chip...AMD (G. E. Terry) Re: Text Editor for (La)TeX (was Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?) (David Fox) Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (David Fox) Re: FVWM sound manager? (Daniel Suman) Re: POVRAY-linux with pentium support (Baba Buehler) Re: Linux mentioned in PC Week (Alan Cox) Beautifying Linux/Xfree (Andy Bailey) Re: DataBase Programs for Linux (Gottfried Hamm) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jim@n5ial.mythical.com (Jim Graham) Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 23:49:04 GMT In article <36thcg$m7a@montego.umcc.umich.edu> spencer@montego.umcc.umich.edu (Spencer PriceNash) writes: >In article <36rk82$chd@myrddin.imat.com>, >Michael_Nelson wrote: >>Well, there _is_ an intermediate step: LaTeX. It seems to me to be >>fairly easy to use, compared to TeX. >This is a fun thread. Indeed. Frankly, *IMHO*, plain TeX is far, far easier than LaTeX. But then, I know how to use macros, and I do use them quite a bit. I don't have very many typesetting commands in most TeX docs (except those that get really strange...but those would be just as bad with LaTeX, too). I always found LaTeX to be too limiting---it took away things I was used to (from plain TeX), and it never seemed to give anything back. Fortunately, in the TeX vs LaTeX battle, it's all a matter of personal preference---you use the one that *YOU* like (and if a publisher won't take the one you like, IMHO, you go to another publisher, as there are usually plenty of them around who will!). At work, most of the docs for the project I'm on are done with FrameMaker. I modified my existing (plain) TeX macros to fit the format used for all of our documentation (took about 3 minutes), and the system/network admin docs are written in TeX. The tech writers (who do all the other docs) are considering TeX..... Well, if they do, the macros are ready for 'em! :-) I would re-direct followups to comp.text.tex, but this is a subject that, on that newsgroup, pre-dates the age of the dinosaurs, so I think I'll spare my fellow comp.text.tex readers the ``trouble'' of adding another KILL-file entry. Later, --jim -- 73 DE N5IAL (/4) < Running Linux 1.0.9 > jim@n5ial.mythical.com ICBM: 30.23N 86.32W || j.graham@ieee.org Packet: --OFFLINE-- (Ft. Walton Beach, FL) E-mail me for information about KAMterm (host mode for Kantronics TNCs). ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions From: jim@n5ial.mythical.com (Jim Graham) Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 00:06:26 GMT In article hartnupj@cs.aston.ac.uk writes: [ re-formatted to less than 80 columns per line ... sorry, but I normally only set my Xterm windows to 80 columns, and when I'm on a plain virtual console, it's always 80 columns. ] > It may be useful to buy a book on it to get the most out of it, but > seeing as I once saw the retail value of TeX as "well over 1000 pounds" > and it's PD (or GPL... not too sure) I'm sure you can shell out for one. TeX isn't either of the above. It isn't GPL software by any stretch of the imagination. It also isn't public domain. It is freeware, and it is also copyrighted software. Donald Knuth (creator of TeX/METAFONT) holds the copyright. Basically, his intention is to maintain control over what is called TeX and METAFONT, not to limit distribution. TeX is freely available for anonymous ftp. For information on where you can get a copy, look in either the FAQ or FAQ Supplement for comp.text.tex (I never can remember which one has this info!) for details on the nearest CTAN site. There are, of course, ways that you can buy TeX, and spend a fortune doing so, but there isn't any requirement that you do so (unless it's a local one, i.e., company policy against anything that doesn't cost at least a small fortune...and I used to work for a company with a policy very much along those lines, so if that's the case, I feel sorry for you). If you want TeX for UNIX, it's easy---get the WEB source and web2c, and you're set. If you want TeX for msdog, you're still in good shape---get emTeX, read the docs, re-read the docs, and install (while reading the docs yet again). As I recall (and it's been a *LONG* time), emTeX was a bit rough to install compared to TeX on UNIX (which is a breeze, if you just follow instructions). Oh well, it's time to get on with other things.... Later, --jim -- 73 DE N5IAL (/4) < Running Linux 1.0.9 > jim@n5ial.mythical.com ICBM: 30.23N 86.32W || j.graham@ieee.org Packet: --OFFLINE-- (Ft. Walton Beach, FL) E-mail me for information about KAMterm (host mode for Kantronics TNCs). ------------------------------ From: dougal@vespucci.iquest.com (Dougal Campbell) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help Subject: Re: [Q] WD 1Gig HD + EIDE w/ Linux Date: 4 Oct 1994 21:17:07 -0500 In article <36lvjr$ru0@werple.apana.org.au>, Glenn Jayaputera said something like: > Hi.. I am planning to install Slackware 2.0 Distribution on a machine w/ > EIDE and 1Gig WD hard-drive. Is there anything I have to watch-out in > regards to 1024 cylinder limitation issue?? > TIA There's a 'big IDE HOWTO' on ftp.iquest.com that's quite helpful. -- Dougal Campbell | Check out the interQuest home page: System Administrator | http://www.iquest.com/ dougal@iquest.com | interQuest: "We can hook you up!" ------------------------------ From: gterry@gate.net (G. E. Terry) Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.os.linux.admin Subject: Re: Mystery Chip...AMD Date: 5 Oct 1994 23:19:38 GMT RYAN Colin Patrick (ryan@ecf.toronto.edu) wrote: : While responding to an add inteh local paper for a $99 486 upgrade it came : to light that this upgrade was a quote "486/66 Mhz" which was a "faster chip and less expensive than the i486DX2-66". This propted my query on what the hell : this chip was and the response was AMD. I was not aware of this chip. I was : under the impression that all the 66's 75's 100's etc (non-Pentium) were : overclocked 33 Mhz chips. Does a 'real' 66 Mhz chip exist? If so (and I dont' : think so" do traditional mother boards ( ie that could handle a DX2) support : this chip. And Finally, if this is true is it compatble and reliable. This is just an clock doubled 33. I would say it might have been an error in the ad. I have one of these chips. The story I read was that Advanced Micro Devices bought the masks for the 80286 from Intel a few years back. They decide to try to test the copywrite & patent laws by cloning the 386 & 486 chips. Well they were very successful and Intel sued. In the following trial, Intel LOST. I hear it was due to the naming system that they used. It made the chips generic in the eyes of the court. That is why there is no 80586, and we have the Pentium. As far as reliability, the AMD 486DX2/66 is an exact duplicate of Intel's chip, or so I read in PC Magazine. And at an average of 100 to 150 dollars less than Intel, I am a buyer! ------------------------------ From: fox@graphics.cs.nyu.edu (David Fox) Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: Text Editor for (La)TeX (was Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?) Date: 06 Oct 1994 10:51:10 GMT In article <36vlbb$423@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> davis@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu writes: ] In article , fox@graphics.cs.nyu.edu ] (David Fox) writes: ] : The main advantages [of emacs for LaTeX] are color highlighting ] : [etc.] ] ] The latest version of Jed also offers syntax highlighting in (La)TeX mode as ] well as ``smart'' and delimiter blinking (even matching `$' pairs). ] Perhaps best of all, you do not need X to get this nor do you need 20 Megs ] of hard disk space. That is, Jed is small and offers color syntax ] highlighting on any color terminal. ] ] In fact, recently on comp.text.tex, Jed was chosen as best editor for LaTeX ] under MSDOS. That's great, glad to hear it. -- David Fox xoF divaD NYU Media Research Lab baL hcraeseR aideM UYN ------------------------------ From: fox@graphics.cs.nyu.edu (David Fox) Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? Date: 05 Oct 1994 17:50:06 GMT In article <36ugha$2p5@sashimi.wwa.com> blackbob@wwa.com (Terence S. Murphy) writes: ] Does editing with emacs offer additional features for the LaTeX user that ] aren't present in vi? I'm curious about what they are, since I really love ] vi/LaTeX, and don't have problems with it... The main advantages are color highlighting of latex keywords and syntax elements and automatic conversion of double quotes to pairs of open or pairs of close quotes as appropriate. Also cursor bouncing to indicate matching quotes, parentheses, equation delimiters, etc. -- David Fox xoF divaD NYU Media Research Lab baL hcraeseR aideM UYN ------------------------------ From: suman@italy.com (Daniel Suman) Subject: Re: FVWM sound manager? Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 13:58:59 GMT Bill McCarthy (bmccarth@gulfaero.com) wrote: : Hiya: : Been reading the posts on the new ver of Xfree and came across references : to an FVWM window event sound manager - can anyone tell me what this is : and point to files related? I looked around at home and couldn't find : anything in the system.fvwmrc. This sounds interesting and is the first : time I"ve seen reference to such an animal. Thanks for any pointers. See the man page for FvwmAudio below. It should also be in your fvwm distribution. Daniel -- Daniel Suman suman@apollo.hp.com HP/CSSL, CHR-03-DW (508) 436-4934 300 Apollo Drive (508) 436-5122, FAX Chelmsford, MA 01824 USA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ FvwmAudio(1.0) FvwmAudio(1.0) Mar 28 1994 NAME FvwmAudio - the FVWM Audio module SYNOPSIS FvwmAudio is spawned by fvwm, so no command line invocation will work. From within the .fvwmrc file, FvwmAudio is spawned as follows: Module FvwmAudio or from within an fvwm pop-up menu: Popup "Module-Popup" Title "Modules" Module "GoodStuff" GoodStuff Module "NoClutter" FvwmClean Module "FvwmIdentify" FvwmIdent Module "Banner" FvwmBanner Module "Debug" FvwmDebug Module "Audio" FvwmAudio Module "Pager" FvwmPager 0 3 EndPopup DESCRIPTION The FvwmAudio module communicates with the Fvwm window manager to bind audio sounds to window manager actions. Different audio queues may be assigned to any window manager action. FvwmAudio can be used with any independent audio player, and therefore requires no special audio library APIs of its own. Simple in its design, it merely binds the audio filenames to particular actions and forks off the audio player program with the appropriate filename when that action occurs. FvwmAudio can also have builtin support for the rplay library. CONFIGURATION OPTIONS FvwmAudio reads the same .fvwmrc file as fvwm(1) reads when it starts up, and looks for certain configuration options: *FvwmAudioPlayCmd /usr/bin/X11/demos/auplay This determines the independent audio player program that will actually play the sounds. If the play command is set to builtin-rplay then the builtin rplay support will be used. For example: *FvwmAudioPlayCmd builtin-rplay *FvwmAudioDir /usr/lib/sounds Specifies the directory to look for the audio files. This option - 1 - Formatted: September 19, 1994 FvwmAudio(1.0) FvwmAudio(1.0) Mar 28 1994 is ignored when rplay is used. *FvwmAudioDelay 5 Specifies that sound events will only be played if they occur at least 5 seconds after the previous event. Sounds events that occur during the delay period are ignored. This option is useful if you don't want several sounds playing at the same time. The default delay is 0 which disables the audio delay. *FvwmAudioRplayHost hostname Specifies what host the sounds will play on. The hostname can also be an environment variable such as $HOSTDISPLAY. This option is only valid with builtin rplay support. *FvwmAudioRplayPriority 0 Specifies what priority will be assigned to the sounds when they are played. This option is only valid with builtin rplay support. *FvwmAudioRplayVolume 127 Specifies what volume will be assigned to the sounds when they are played. This option is only valid with builtin rplay support. *FvwmAudio window-manager_action audio_filename Binds particular window manager actions to sound queues. *FvwmAudio startup TaDa.au *FvwmAudio shutdown Elvis_Left.au *FvwmAudio unknown doh.au *FvwmAudio add_window drip.au *FvwmAudio raise_window swoosh.au *FvwmAudio lower_window swoosh.au *FvwmAudio focus_change boing.au *FvwmAudio destroy_window explosion.au *FvwmAudio iconify ploop.au *FvwmAudio deiconify ploop.au *FvwmAudio toggle_paging fwop.au *FvwmAudio new_page beam_trek.au *FvwmAudio new_desk beam_trek.au *FvwmAudio configure_window huh.au *FvwmAudio window_name beep.au *FvwmAudio icon_name beep.au *FvwmAudio res_class beep.au *FvwmAudio res_name beep.au *FvwmAudio end_windowlist twang.au - 2 - Formatted: September 19, 1994 FvwmAudio(1.0) FvwmAudio(1.0) Mar 28 1994 INVOCATION The invocation method was shown in the synopsis section. No command line invocation is possible. FvwmAudio must be invoked by the fvwm window manager. BUGS It's REALLY noisy when fvwm starts and restarts. COPYRIGHTS This module is heavily based on a similar Fvwm module called FvwmSound by Mark Boyns. FvwmAudio simply takes Mark's original program and extends it to make it generic enough to work with any audio player. The concept for interfacing this module to the Window Manager, is original work by Robert Nation. Copyright 1994, Mark Boyns and Mark Scott. No guarantees or warranties or anything are provided or implied in any way whatsoever. Use this program at your own risk. Permission to use this program for any purpose is given, as long as the copyright is kept intact. AUTHORS Mark Boyns (boyns@sdsu.edu) Mark Scott (mscott@mcd.mot.com) - 3 - Formatted: September 19, 1994 ------------------------------ From: baba@ph-meter.beckman.uiuc.edu (Baba Buehler) Subject: Re: POVRAY-linux with pentium support Date: 3 Oct 94 06:56:52 GMT Reply-To: Baba Z Buehler s931306@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Albert Hui) writes: >I'm not sure, but is -O6 bogus (same as -O2) in the stock gcc? i did some speed trials with Crack 4.1, and i got very different, consistent numbers when i compiled with -O2, than i did when i compiled with -O6, stock Slackware 2.0 gcc (2.5.8). -- %>- Baba Z Buehler %>- Beckman Institute Systems Services, Urbana Illinois %>- WWW: http://www.beckman.uiuc.edu/groups/biss/people/baba/ %>- PGP Public Key available via WWW & public key servers ------------------------------ From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: Linux mentioned in PC Week Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 17:11:10 GMT In article <36kv6v$lr7@agate.berkeley.edu> maxims@ucsee.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Maxim Spivak) writes: >Yeah, but could the 8088 in 1981 run UNIX? Probably--Microsoft did buy >Xenix. But Lotus 123 was written for DOS, which was what probably >solidified MS-DOS as _the_ major OS for Intel boxes. PC/IX - it wasn't very fast or efficient but then in comparison to a PDP11 it was no different to todays PC/Mainframe difference of scale. >Don't forget that the Unix world is also trying to standardize on a GUI >(motif on top of X-Windows--COSE) and something similar to OLE--CORBA. Yep and neither OLE nor CORBA appear to have real world performance. Alan -- ..-----------,,----------------------------,,----------------------------,, // Alan Cox // iialan@www.linux.org.uk // GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU // ``----------'`----------------------------'`----------------------------'' ------------------------------ Subject: Beautifying Linux/Xfree From: bailey9@muvms6.wvnet.edu (Andy Bailey) Date: 5 Oct 94 14:11:41 EDT Hi, Over the past year now, I have spent lots (moist likely far too much) time playing with Linux. A great deal of this time has been spent of adjusting look and feel aspects of the OS. Actually I dont think I should say OS, since Slackware is really what I'm using. I'm not much of a low-level programmer, so the things I've tried to do to help out the Linux effort are mostly documentation, or fit & finish projects. The one I have been spending a great deal of time with lately is making a default system.fvwmrc file. Fvwmrc seems to be a nice manager for a new X user. Witrh the default configuration, however, you get a rather plain color scheme and menu set. The menus dont provide any incredible functions, but they do work. I've spent some time playing with NeXTStep, which of course has me drooling for some nice icons and colors with XFree on my Linux box. I realize, however, that many people want a minimum of excess "cheese" (As I like to refer to needless ornaments on a GUI desktop). What I would like to do is discuss, with some other interested people, various configurations that they are using for fvwm, that they feel provide unique functionality. Also, since fvwm provides "modules", it might be possible to set about making some interesting new ones. I think more users might be attracted to Linux, if some really nice out-of-box configs like this were available, as well as some new icons and fonts. Perhaps some scripts (maybe tcl/tk based) that allow easy addition/removal of icons from the desktop. (I know its simple just the edit the config file to add/remove stuff, but this would be better looking) Its just a wild idea, but I'd like to hear from anyone whos interested as well ------------------------------ From: ghamm@rebell.PFM-Mainz.DE (Gottfried Hamm) Subject: Re: DataBase Programs for Linux Date: 3 Oct 1994 20:16:29 GMT In article <1994Sep28.193228.1168@socket.cuug.ab.ca>, sokolosk@socket.cuug.ab.ca (Jason Sokolosky) says: > >I was wondering if there were any DataBase Programs/Systems (e.g. >like Oracle), that use SQL, available for Linux???? There exists a free version of INGRES for Linux. I'm using it and it works fine. The file is called ingres04.lzh and you should find it on various ftp-sites. >-Long Live the INTERNET!!!! That's right. Cheers, Gottfried -- Gottfried Hamm | Email: ghamm@rebell.PFM-Mainz.DE | I'm Wormser Str. 36 | Phone: +49 (0)6249 8997 | awaiting D-67583 Guntersblum | Fax: +49 (0)6249 8842 | your mail... ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Misc-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.misc) via: Internet: Linux-Misc@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux End of Linux-Misc Digest ******************************