From: Digestifier To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Mon, 10 Oct 94 04:13:18 EDT Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #911 Linux-Misc Digest #911, Volume #2 Mon, 10 Oct 94 04:13:18 EDT Contents: Sorry Only Testing (Briny Seawitch) what IS maple? (Frank M. Haynes) Re: Newest Linux Journal? (Phil Hughes) Re: PPP disconnect question (Al Longyear) Re: what IS maple? (Robert Ashcroft) Re: ! Can I benchmark on your Pentium ?!? (ScottM48) Re: [Q]Linux on PPC a hoax? (David M. Gabrius) SURVEY: Graphics card benchmarks under XFree86 (10 Oct 94) (Farrell McKay) XFree86-3.1 binaries incomplete at tsx-11.mit.edu (C. Eric Williford) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: seawitch@calypso.navo.navy.mil (Briny Seawitch) Subject: Sorry Only Testing Date: 7 Oct 1994 23:58:57 GMT Reply-To: seawitch@navo.navy.mil Sorry, only testing my latest xrn compile. -- N. R. seawitch@navo.navy.mil ================================================================= Standard Disclaimers Apply! ================================================================= ------------------------------ From: frank@vatmom.COM (Frank M. Haynes) Subject: what IS maple? Date: Sun, 9 Oct 94 13:52:40 GMT The subject says it. --Frank -- ==================================================================== Frank Haynes 406 Pinetree Circle Decatur, GA 30032 +1 404 279-4626 frank@vatmom.COM ------------------------------ From: fyl@eskimo.com (Phil Hughes) Subject: Re: Newest Linux Journal? Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 01:49:37 GMT Kevin K. Lewis (lewikk@grasshopper.aud.alcatel.com) wrote: : Can anyone tell me if they've received the newest (November?) issue of : Linux Journal, yet? Well, we publish it and we don't have them yet. :-) They were shipped from the printer on Friday and we should have them on Monday. Our mailhouse promises us that they will go out within 3 days so they will be in the mail by Thursday. -- Phil Hughes, Publisher, Linux Journal (206) 527-3385 usually phil@ssc.com, sometimes fyl@eskimo.com ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help From: longyear@netcom.com (Al Longyear) Subject: Re: PPP disconnect question Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 18:29:35 GMT richard@dutepp6.et.tudelft.nl (Richard Kooijman) writes: >I do this by calling pppd and specifying the connect and disconnect options. >The connect option works great, my script with chat script is called, >dialing occurs and information is fed to the PSTN gateway. >Later, when I want to disconnect, I run a script called ppp-kill. >It finds the pppd pid and sends it a SIGHUP. A quick way to 'find' the pid is to look in the file /var/run/ppp0.pid. >Now, I expected the disconnect script to be run next by pppd but it isn't. >Couple observations: the man page discussed this option, the binary >'reveals' the disconnect support (strings -a pppd), but the source >doesn't contain it! The pppd program doesn't complain about the >option either. The string 'disconnect' is defined in the module options.c. It stores the pointer to the single argument string in the global variable called "disconnector" in main.c. The disconect script is actually executed in the module main.c in the sequence: lcp_open(0); /* Start protocol */ for (phase = PHASE_ESTABLISH; phase != PHASE_DEAD; ) sigpause(0); /* Wait for next signal */ /* * Run disconnector script, if requested */ if (disconnector) { if (device_script(disconnector, fd, fd) < 0) { syslog(LOG_WARNING, "disconnect script failed"); die(1); } syslog(LOG_INFO, "Disconnected..."); } So, does the system log show "Disconnected..."? -- Al Longyear longyear@netcom.com ------------------------------ From: rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft) Subject: Re: what IS maple? Date: 9 Oct 1994 21:33:52 GMT Reply-To: rna@gsb-ecu.stanford.edu In article <1994Oct9.135240.7597@vatmom.com>, Frank M. Haynes wrote: >The subject says it. Same category as Mathematica---algebra cruncher. RNA ------------------------------ From: scottm48@aol.com (ScottM48) Subject: Re: ! Can I benchmark on your Pentium ?!? Date: 9 Oct 1994 16:01:03 -0400 In article <32f6vp$7tl@lll-winken.llnl.gov>, runge@redhook.llnl.gov (Karl J. Runge) writes: I Would be gald to run your benchmarks for you if nobody has done so yet, send the programs that you wan't timed to P.O. Box 93026, Las Vegas, Nevada 89193-3026 Sincerely, Scott A. Martin ------------------------------ From: gabrius@riker.cig.mot.com (David M. Gabrius) Subject: Re: [Q]Linux on PPC a hoax? Date: 6 Oct 1994 20:19:13 GMT In article <1994Oct5.062847.5386@venus.gov.bc.ca>, wrote: >Is the Linux for the PPC project a hoax? Promised delivery of kernel was >August when the project was supposedly started, then September in the Linux >FAQ. I know it is difficult to port software written specifically for the >X86 to another platform and it does take time. The silence about this project >leads me to think the software is vaporware. If the project is real then we >have some real status reports like the Linux ports to other platforms. Thanks Obviously this person is really new to Linux, or else they wouldn't sound like a refugee from comp.sys.*.advocacy groups... ;-) One thing to get used to -- there is no such thing as "promised" delivery when it comes to Linux. One more thing -- no news is usually good news. It means that people aren't going to be screaming for something that they've heard is really cool but is nowhere near being done. And i've not seen any more status reports about other platforms than the PPC; the Amiga stuff is closest to being ready, and the Alpha/MIPS stuff is sexier, but not any more frequent without people screaming for a status report. "Ahh, kids today! They think that Linux should magically appear on any new platform. Back when I first started using Linux, the TCP/IP was barely there, and Donald Becker still hadn't nailed down ne2000 drivers! Ahhhh...." *grin* From a guy who got 85-95% of the questions right on mdw's Linux Trivia Test in Linux Journal. (Anyone else agree with me?) -- David Gabrius -- Motorola Cellular \\ gabrius@cig.mot.com \\ 708-632-5944 Software Engineer \\"You miss too much these days if you stop to think" -U2 "And you can find/Your own way out/You can build/And I can will..." -U2 "Some days take less but most days take more" \\ #include ------------------------------ From: fbm@thumbtack.bevc.blacksburg.va.us (Farrell McKay) Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.benchmarks,comp.os.linux.help,aus.computers.linux,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video Subject: SURVEY: Graphics card benchmarks under XFree86 (10 Oct 94) Date: 10 Oct 1994 06:46:56 GMT Archive-name: xfree86-benchmarks Version: $Id: post,v 1.31 1994/10/10 02:00:32 fbm Exp fbm $ These are the latest results from a survey of xbench results under XFree86. The idea of the survey is to compile a comprehensive set of benchmark results, obtained by running xbench against all the main 386/486/586 graphics cards, and thereby place the graphics cards in an approximate performance ranking. Ideally all the results should be gathered using the same host machine, on the same day of the week, while wearing the same socks and jocks. Unfortunately no-one has yet come forward with such a database (although such databases are rumoured to exist). This survey is the next best thing. The summary results below distill the essence of the survey into single line entries. The entries are grouped by XFree86 release number, and ranked in decreasing 'xstone' order (last column) within each group. Ranking by xstones is a bit arbitrary. It is instructive to examine all the other columns too. The xbench survey has a home on the World Wide Web, at http://thumbtack.bevc.blacksburg.va.us/xbench/ If you have acess to a Web browser, check it out! It is at least 6 x 10^24 times better than this plain old Usenet posting, in lots of ways. New additions to this database are always welcome - especially entries for the latest servers or for unlisted graphics cards. If you use XFree86, you can contribute to this survey. Grab a copy of xbench, make sure it has the GraphicsExposures patch (see below), run it on your machine, fill in the blank form provided below, and mail it back to me. Please do not send the raw xbench output - just fill in the blank form! I will collate and publish the results as they become available. XBench is available by ftp from hundreds of archive sites around the world. Check out archie for your nearest site. >>>>>> IT IS IMPORTANT TO USE THE CORRECT VERSION OF XBENCH. <<<<<< The correct version is the one with the "GraphicsExposures" patch. Check for this by looking at your source code - you should find calls to XSetGraphicsExposures(......, False); in the four files bitmapcpy.c complex1.c screencpy.c and scroll.c Some sites known to carry the patched version of xbench are: ftp.physics.su.oz.au:/xbench/xbench.tar.gz ftp.iastate.edu:/pub/netbsd/misc/xbench.tar.gz mcsun.eu.net:/os/linux/BETA/X_S3/xbench.tar.gz mcsun.eu.net:/os/linux/BETA/X_S3/xbench.tar.Z ftp.th-darmstadt.de:/pub/X11/other/xbench.tar.Z xbench.tar.gz file length=88785, /bin/sum=48788, /usr/5bin/sum=31503 xbench.tar.Z file length=156750, /bin/sum=21120, /usr/5bin/sum=40999 To run the benchmark, 1. If possible, switch into one of the more common display resolutions before starting, e.g. 800x600, 1024x768, 1280x1024 etc. 2. Kill off (i.e. exit from) all other programs on your machine, including your window manager! The only running program you should need is a single window from which to start xbench. XBench is a benchmark program. If it has to compete for memory or CPU, its results will suffer. 3. Read the XBench README file and edit the script.run file. 4. xset s off (turn off the screen saver) 5. xbench < script.run > results/YOURFILE 6. go have a coffee 7. awk -f scripts/xstones.awk < results/YOURFILE Farrell. -- Farrell McKay. Email: fbm@thumbtack.bevc.blacksburg.va.us (PGP key avail) ========================= Blank Form =========================================== CPU : (386/486 SX/DX etc) CPU Clock Speed : (MHz) M'board Memory : (MBytes) Card Vendor + Model : Card Bus : (ISA/EISA/VLB/PCI) Chipset : Video Memory : (MBytes) Memory Type : (DRAM/VRAM) Memory Speed : (ns) Clock Chip : RAMDAC : Operating system : XFree86 release : (e.g. 2.1.1) XFree86 server : (e.g. XF86_SVGA) Physical resoln : Virtual resoln : Dot-clock : (MHz) Bits per pixel : XBench lines : XBench fills : XBench blits : XBench arcs : XBench text : XBench complex : XBench xstones : >>>>>>>> Did you use the patched version of XBench ?? (Yes/No) <<<<<<<< XBench ftp'd from : Submitted by : Date stamp : ========================= Summary Results ====================================== --- Hware --- XF86 Res Dot Px Display card Bus lin fil blt arc txt cplx xst CPU-Clk Mem Srvr P&V Clk Sz Type ----------- 000s ----------- ============================= XFree86 3.1 =================================== 486DX2-66 16 S3 NN 75 8 Spider Tarantula64 V 583 173 160 7720 250 264 242 486DX2-66 16 S3 NN 65 8 #9 GXE-64 P 456 114 106 7304 197 240 175 486DX2-66 8 S3 NC 75 8 #9 GXE-64 V 419 116 114 6372 186 185 173 486DX2-66 16 S3 NN 75 16 Spider Tarantula64 V 539 97 86 7078 247 205 165 486DX2-66 16 W32 PL 36 8 Herc. Dynamite Pow V 235 58 88 5278 423 114 131 486DX2-66 16 S3 PP 50 32 Spider Tarantula64 V 490 36 44 6328 216 106 85 486DX-33 16 Mch32 NB 80 8 ATI GUP I 191 53 46 2201 94 77 77 486DX2-66 16 S3 NN 65 16 #9 GXE-64 P 316 43 36 5961 136 87 76 486DX-33 8 W32 NN 75 8 Herc. Dynamite D20 I 68 19 28 1343 151 49 43 486DX2-66 16 SVGA NN 75 8 Viglen WD90C33 P 139 27 10 2024 156 59 34 Pnt-90 48 SVGA NN 50 8 IBM (integrated) I 67 13 18 943 388 37 32 ============================= XFree86 2.1.1 =================================== 486DX2-66 16 S3 NN 74 8 Diamond Stealth Pr V 417 89 77 6465 197 153 142 486DX2-66 16 S3 NN 75 8 #9 GXE Level 12 V 442 80 65 6232 187 156 129 486DX2-66 8 S3 NN 75 8 SPEA/V7 Mercury V 495 72 55 7018 160 134 113 486DX-33 16 S3 EE 110 8 Actix Ultra+ I 323 68 59 2761 148 138 108 486DX-50 16 S3 NN 80 8 ELSA Winner 1000 I 303 63 54 3865 155 128 103 486DX-50 16 S3 CC 110 8 Metheus 928-4M V 310 67 50 3208 148 127 102 486DX-50 16 Mch32 NN 75 8 ATI Ultra Pro V 335 65 56 2845 142 84 101 486DX2-66 16 S3 NN 75 8 Diamond Stealth 24 V 340 54 45 5541 132 106 89 486SX-25 16 S3 PM 36 8 Spea V7 Mirage I 186 48 41 639 113 101 76 486DX2-66 20 S3 CC 135 8 #9 GXE Level 11 I 283 61 52 3345 56 121 74 486DX-33 16 S3 NN 72 8 Miro Crystal 10SD V 248 44 36 2256 104 87 71 486DX-33 8 S3 NN 75 8 Actix Grph Eng. 32 I 205 42 38 1504 101 89 70 486DX2-66 8 S3 NN 45 8 Generic S3-805 V 265 45 39 2259 66 95 67 486DX2-66 16 Mch32 cC 80 8 ATI Graphics Ultra V 271 36 31 3597 88 59 60 486DX2-66 32 SVGA KK 80 8 Generic Cirrus 542 V 143 28 22 1862 281 44 51 486DX2-66 4 SVGA NN 75 8 VIA C.Logic 5426 V 149 26 22 2097 238 42 49 486DX2-50 8 SVGA NH 75 8 Genoa 8500VL-28 V 113 23 23 1464 197 36 46 486DX2-66 20 SVGA DD 80 8 Generic Cirrus 542 V 133 24 17 1708 254 40 42 386AM-40 8 Mch32 NN 65 8 ATI Graphics Ultra I 101 23 20 501 53 35 36 386DX-25 8 SVGA PL 36 8 Hercules Dynamite I 33 8 5 230 23 19 12 ============================= XFree86 2.1 =================================== 486DX2-66 32 S3 NN 77 8 STB Pegasus V 453 80 66 4318 195 156 131 486DX2-66 32 S3 NN 67 8 STB Pegasus V 461 79 66 4154 191 141 129 486DX2-66 32 S3 CC 125 8 STB Pegasus V 440 80 62 4240 193 153 127 Pnt-66 32 S3 NN 85 8 ELSA Winner 2000 V 494 75 57 6275 205 145 123 486DX2-66 16 S3 AA 185 8 #9 GXE Level 16 V 430 73 56 6833 182 139 117 486DX2-66 16 S3 FC 85 8 Spea V7 Mercury V 472 69 55 4287 171 136 113 486DX2-66 24 S3 CC 135 8 Spea V7 Mercury V 422 65 55 3404 162 132 109 486DX2-66 20 S3 NN 65 8 #9 GXE Level 11 I 374 65 55 4873 168 129 108 486DX2-66 8 S3 NL 75 8 Emca VGA-928-P P 370 64 55 3193 150 126 106 486DX-33 8 S3 CC 108 8 Spea V7 Mercury I 329 65 55 255 146 133 104 486DX2-66 16 S3 II 96 8 ELSA Winner 1000 P 312 62 52 2907 148 128 101 486DX2-66 20 Mch32 HH 80 8 ATI Ultra Pro I 311 61 53 4336 144 133 100 486DX2-66 16 S3 HH 110 8 ELSA Winner 1000 P 298 60 52 2769 146 128 100 486DX-33 8 Mch32 OO 65 8 ATI Ultra XLR V 296 62 54 2723 129 83 95 486DX-33 16 S3 NN 45 8 Actix Grph Eng. 32 I 234 55 52 2894 129 111 91 486DX2-66 20 Mch32 NN 75 8 ATI Ultra Pro V 325 55 47 3437 129 75 88 486DX2-66 20 Mch32 HH 80 8 ATI Ultra Pro V 323 56 48 3682 118 77 88 486SX-33 16 S3 nN 45 8 VGA805-V from Uppe V 231 53 47 726 131 107 87 486DX-50 16 Mch32 CC 135 8 ATI Ultra Pro E 269 54 47 3038 123 74 85 486DX2-66 8 S3 NN 72 8 Actix Grph Eng. 32 V 328 48 40 3821 137 95 82 486DX-33 16 Mch8 NN 65 8 ATI Ultra (Mach8) I 255 47 42 4071 115 98 79 486DX-33 16 Mch32 NB 80 8 ATI Ultra Pro I 207 51 43 1600 106 61 76 486DX-33 16 S3 HH 62 8 ELSA Winner 1000 E 269 57 51 1720 50 130 69 Pnt-66 32 S3 CC 102 8 #9 GXE Level 12 P 389 72 61 4504 38 146 69 486DX-50 16 SVGA nN 45 8 STB Horizon VGA I 128 28 28 1767 224 55 56 486DX2-50 16 SVGA PH 45 8 ICL ValuePlus CL54 I 102 27 25 1131 145 38 48 486DX2-66 20 VGA NN 65 8 Cirrus Logic V 61 28 20 1545 228 45 44 486DX-33 8 SVGA NN 65 8 Genoa Phantom 8900 V 131 28 12 2167 116 42 36 486DX2-66 32 SVGA NN 75 8 Generic Cirrus 542 V 110 18 13 1474 229 30 33 486DX2-66 8 SVGA NN 75 8 Actix ProStar VL V 107 17 12 1563 205 27 30 486DX2-66 32 SVGA KK 80 8 Generic Cirrus 542 V 102 16 12 1317 209 28 30 486DX2-50 16 SVGA HH 80 8 ICL ValuePlus CL54 I 76 14 12 880 140 20 26 486DX2-66 8 SVGA PN 36 8 Octek AVGA-20H I 80 11 5 891 54 17 14 486DX2-66 24 SVGA NN 65 8 Generic ET4000 I 91 8 3 1040 75 12 11 486SX-25 20 SVGA NL 45 8 STB PowerGraph I 67 8 4 416 52 14 11 486DX2-66 8 VGA16 QP 26 8 Hedaka HED-622 I 20 3 3 471 7 7 5 386DX-25 8 SVGA PP 36 8 Trident TVGA 8900B I 18 2 1 156 12 2 3 486DX-33 16 SVGA PP 40 8 Oak OTI-067 I 36 1 1 458 28 2 3 ============================= XFree86 2.0 =================================== 486DX2-66 16 S3 NN 74 8 Diamond Stealth Pr V 451 92 78 3234 198 150 145 486DX2-66 16 S3 HH 85 8 #9 GXE Level 12 V 412 81 65 2872 196 157 130 486DX2-66 16 S3 NN 75 8 #9 GXE Level 12 V 468 80 64 4070 190 153 128 486DX-33 16 S3 NN 74 8 Diamond Stealth Pr V 278 83 75 2015 155 142 123 486DX-33 16 S3 NN 75 8 Diamond Stealth Pr V 348 76 66 2733 166 155 121 486DX-50 8 S3 NN 72 8 #9 GXE Level 11 V 395 71 62 3363 164 141 117 486SX-33 16 S3 CC 110 8 Actix Ultra+ I 293 73 62 3776 158 137 114 486DX-50 16 S3 NN 75 8 ELSA Winner 1000 E 316 64 55 2760 160 128 105 486SLC2-66 16 S3 NN 45 8 STB PowerGraph VL- V 282 60 50 1310 153 118 98 486DX-33 16 S3 NN 75 8 Orchid Fahrnht. VA V 266 48 40 2380 121 95 79 Pnt-60 16 Mch32 NN 75 8 ATI AX0 P 207 45 38 3438 126 68 73 486DX2-66 8 Mch32 GG 80 8 ATI AX0 P 183 39 34 3393 110 65 65 386DX-40 8 S3 NN 75 8 Generic S3-801 I 153 36 31 1153 84 72 57 486DX-50 16 SVGA QL 25 8 ColorDesigner A3 V 126 23 12 1575 111 44 34 486DX-50 16 SVGA nN 45 8 STB Horizon VGA I 131 20 12 1551 130 47 33 386DX-40 8 S3 JJ 95 8 Generic S3-801 I 122 23 20 1096 25 47 31 486DX-50 16 SVGA nL 45 8 ColorDesigner A3 V 115 18 10 1559 110 38 29 386DX-40 4 SVGA nG 45 8 Tseng ET4000/W32 V 65 16 11 989 38 30 26 386DX-40 4 SVGA NG 72 8 Tseng ET4000/W32 V 63 15 10 952 35 25 21 486DX2-50 16 SVGA PN 50 8 Diamond Speedstar I 76 16 7 927 61 39 21 486DX2-50 20 SVGA NN 85 8 Cirrus Logic 5428 I 86 13 6 1203 68 33 18 486DX-33 8 SVGA NN 65 8 Diamond Speedstar+ I 87 9 4 1325 84 14 13 486DX2-66 8 SVGA PL 75 8 Octek AVGA-20H I 79 3 2 917 60 5 6 486SX-25 4 SVGA? QQ 75 8 Sager NP840 notebo V 53 3 2 327 30 4 5 Key to Physical and Virtual resolutions (lower case=interlaced mode) A = 1600x1200 B = 1536x1024 C = 1280x1024 D = 1200x910 E = 1200x900 F = 1192x900 G = 1152x910 H = 1152x900 I = 1152x816 J = 1152x800 K = 1056x832 L = 1024x1024 M = 1024x900 N = 1024x768 O = 1024x767 P = 800x600 Q = 640x480 ------------------------------ From: cew@metlab4.met.fsu.edu (C. Eric Williford) Subject: XFree86-3.1 binaries incomplete at tsx-11.mit.edu Date: 8 Oct 1994 01:43:56 GMT I downloaded the Linux XFree86-3.1 binaries from tsx-11.mit.edu and noticed (disappointedly) that the XF86-3.1.lib tar file is truncated. Therefore, some of the shared library files are missing and I can't seem to get this file from any other site. Could someone please upload the complete file or put it on an anonymous ftp site and let me know where it is? I'd love to test XFree-3.1. 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