From: Digestifier To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Thu, 13 Oct 94 02:13:12 EDT Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #926 Linux-Misc Digest #926, Volume #2 Thu, 13 Oct 94 02:13:12 EDT Contents: Re: Help with NFS! (Amrik Thethi) Motif for Xfree386 (Mike Berger) Re: ez (was Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?) (Jerry Leslie) specifying routes (Kenneth Cope) Re: Advantage of having sound card (Doug Dejulio) Re: Applets; was: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Thomas Aaron Insel) Re: Advantage of having sound card (Dan Newcombe) Laserjet 4 success (Kevin Martinez) Re: X News-reader for LinuX (Timothy J. Kordas) ATA or SCSI !! (Kevin Martinez) Imake configuration for X/Motif (fheitkamp@nova.wright.edu) Re: DOSEMU/Linux 1.1.51 (Georg Vollmers) Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Lars Marowsky-Bree) Re: Copying from CDROM to floppy - why does HD go active? (Jeff Kesselman) SW Technologies (E. Robert Tisdale) I want SETUID scripts! (Alex Ramos) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: at@setanta.demon.co.uk (Amrik Thethi) Subject: Re: Help with NFS! Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 12:03:42 GMT In article stajdae@rh.wl.com (Eric Stajda) writes: >Hello, > We are trying to mount a file system from our HP9000 to our Linux box.... >In the FSTAB we have the following command: > >hp.el.com:\users\smith \tempmount nfs timeo=14,intr > >In the rc.inet2 we have: >mount -a -t nfs > >We receive the following error on bootup: > >mount clntudp_create: RPC: program not registered > >Could anyone help with hints on how to solve this problem? It seems that the HP9000 is not running the rpc.mountd and therfore cannot service NFS mount requests. Is the filesystem remote mounted on any other machine? Also the slashes should be / not \, but I don't know what problems that will cause. -- Amrik Thethi. Tel. +223 421 008 Fax. +223 421 024 Setanta Software Ltd. Internet: at@setanta.demon.co.uk Cambridge, UK. ------------------------------ From: direwolf@uiuc.edu (Mike Berger) Subject: Motif for Xfree386 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 16:50:34 -0600 What are the options for Motif under Linux? I haven't found anything for free, though it would make it easier to compile Xmosaic and a few other things. I haven't found anything about commercial versions either. I'm interested in getting Motif one way or the other. Mike Berger direwolf@uiuc.edu ------------------------------ From: jleslie@dmccorp.com (Jerry Leslie) Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: ez (was Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?) Date: 11 Oct 1994 05:57:42 GMT davis@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu wrote: : In article <1994Oct10.185245.15648@midway.uchicago.edu>, : goer@quads.uchicago.edu (Richard L. Goerwitz) writes: : : Personally, I don't that dial-up character-based I/O is the future of : : computing. To bend over backwards to suit this constituency would be : : to cripple any forward-looking WP, and to slow development. : I do not think that making a character based WP will slow development at : all. The display code for X is far more complex than it is for ordinary : terminals and will distract from the internals of the WP itself. The X : stuff can come later. I think that there are far more of us still using : simple terminals than are using X terminals. : -- : _____________ : #___/John E. Davis\_________________________________________________________ : # : # internet: davis@amy.tch.harvard.edu : # bitnet: davis@ohstpy : # office: 617-735-6746 : # Please remember that there are some parts of the world where telecommunications is so backwards as to make X apps unusable via modems. Or is unix to only be for those who have it on their desktops, or via a modern telephone system (POTS) ? :-) --Gerald (Jerry) R. Leslie Staff Engineer Dynamic Matrix Control Corporation (my opinions are my own) P.O. Box 721648 9896 Bissonnet Houston, Texas 77272 Houston, Texas, 77036 713/272-5065 713/272-5200 (fax) gleslie@isvsrv.enet.dec.com jleslie@dmccorp.com ------------------------------ From: copek@ug1.plk.af.mil (Kenneth Cope) Subject: specifying routes Date: 12 Oct 1994 16:28:34 -0600 I am running a Linux 1.1.52 system on an Everex 486DX2-50 with a Western Digital WD8003 ethernet card with Net-3. Lately I have been having routing problems with tcp/ip traffic a few gateways downstream. Is there anyway to route ip traffic by hand around these gateways? My ethernet card is configured as follows: # ifconfig eth0 eth0 IP ADDR 129.238.8.33 BCAST 129.238.8.255 NETMASK 255.255.252.0 MTU 1500 METRIC 0 POINT-TO-POINT ADDR 0.0.0.0 FLAGS: 0x0043 ( UP BROADCAST RUNNING ) My routing tables and eth0 interface are set up with the following commands at boot time: ifconfig eth0 129.238.8.33 netmask 255.255.252.0 broadcast 129.238.8.255 route add -net network route add default gw router metric 0 # netstat -r Kernel routing table Destination net/address Gateway address Flags RefCnt Use Iface default router UGN 0 213 eth0 network * UN 0 230 eth0 I have ignored the loopback interface for conciseness. Can anyone help? Thanks Kenneth Cope cope@gizmonic.plk.af.mil ------------------------------ From: ddj+@pitt.edu (Doug Dejulio) Subject: Re: Advantage of having sound card Date: 12 Oct 1994 03:49:20 GMT In article <37b91g$f1b@werple.apana.org.au>, Glenn Jayaputera wrote: >WOndering if I have a lot of advantages if I buy a sound card for my >linux box. When I demo my Linux box to folks, they're often impressed when they're running Mosaic, click on a link, and hear audio. Similarly, if you run a sufficiently studly MIME mailer (Messages, metamail), you can exchange MIME mail that contains audio. -- Doug DeJulio ddj@zardoz.elbows.org http://www.pitt.edu/~ddj/ ------------------------------ From: tinsel@uiuc.edu (Thomas Aaron Insel) Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: Applets; was: Word (Text) processors for Linux? Date: 12 Oct 1994 20:11:20 GMT Reply-To: tinsel@uiuc.edu m.ballard@forprod.csiro.au (Mat Ballard) writes: Xedit might qualify as a notepad-level text editor. Other programs that probably qualify are xspread and xpaint. Xfig is definitely a good drawing program, and might even look pretty if used with the 3d Athena widgets. It can deal with the standard formats for Unix -- it exports postscript/eps as well as a number of TeX drawing formats. There's no shortage of Unix database programs. What I suspect you want is more like a cardfile program, like Filemaker. > e. a common clipboard for simple cutting and pasting; X has a clipboard, at least for text. > f. the ability to use truetype and/or adobe fonts; Using TrueType requires paying Apple big money, doesn't it. On the other hand, PostScript fonts are supported by lots of stuff. -- Thomas Insel (tinsel@uiuc.edu) "They [La Prensa] accused us of suppressing freedom of expression. This was a lie and we could not let them publish it." -- Nelba Blandon ------------------------------ From: newcombe@aa.csc.peachnet.edu (Dan Newcombe) Subject: Re: Advantage of having sound card Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 16:11:48 UNDEFINED Glenn Jayaputera wrote: >WOndering if I have a lot of advantages if I buy a sound card for my >linux box. 1) Games are so much better. 2) combined with my CD drive, it makes for a decent sound system in my computer room. 3) Gives me MIDI access to my synth. (Soundblaster Pro) -- Dan Newcombe newcombe@aa.csc.peachnet.edu -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "And the man in the mirror has sad eyes." -Marillion ------------------------------ From: Kevin Martinez Subject: Laserjet 4 success Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 00:52:52 GMT This is a mini-howto related to making a Laserjet 4m+ connected to the local ethernet functional with Linux. It was a "novell printer" according to our MIS department but then I found the manual.......... ;^) ( this enables printing with the lpr command ) ( most of this is adapted from the jetdirect manual ) To enable LaserJet 4m+ network printer to print from Linux machine, perform the following actions as root: Add: text|lj1_text:Laserjet 4m+ (text mode) on local subnet: \ :lp=: \ :rm=laserjet1: \ :rp=text: \ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/text/errs: \ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/text/lj1_text: raw|lj1_raw:Laserjet 4m+ (PostScript) on local subnet: \ :lp=: \ :rm=laserjet1: \ :rp=raw: \ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/raw/errs: \ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/raw/lj1_raw: to /etc/printcap Add something like: 146.174.64.60 laserjet1.qntm.com laserjet to /etc/hosts Note that you have to have chosen a valid IP address for your printer and have configured the IP address/netmask/default gateway previously via the front panel. mkdir /var/spool/lpd/text mkdir /var/spool/lpd/raw chown daemon.daemon /var/spool/lpd/text chown daemon.daemon /var/spool/lpd/raw chmod g+w /var/spool/lpd/text chmod g+w /var/spool/lpd/raw mkdir /var/spool/lpd/text/lj1_text mkdir /var/spool/lpd/raw/lj_raw chown daemon.daemon /var/spool/lpd/raw/lj_raw chown daemon.daemon /var/spool/lpd/text/lj1_text chmod g+w /var/spool/lpd/raw/lj_raw/ chmod g+w /var/spool/lpd/text/lj1_text To test the printer, try lpr -Ptext /etc/printcap for text mode. To test PostScript, try lpr -Praw your-postscript-file. To check print queue status, try lpq -Ptext or lpq -Praw as appropriate. have phun! -- ======================================================================== Kevin Martinez Fear the Government that fears your Scanner! lps@rahul.net I owe all my success to Roly Poly Fish Heads! ======================================================================== ------------------------------ From: tjk@nostromo.eeap.cwru.edu (Timothy J. Kordas) Subject: Re: X News-reader for LinuX Date: 11 Oct 1994 21:59:54 GMT Jason Haar (jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com) wrote: : Don Rubin (rubin@setinc.com) wrote: : : I use XRn and it leaves alot to be desired. Has anyone built : : xvNews for Linux? I would be interested in hearing about any : : other X newsreaders too. : I can't believe no one has mentioned tknews yet! I think it's the best : one available at the moment (always a moving target that! ;-) and it : supports... : THREADS!!!! : Of course it requires Tcl/TK to run... : archive.cis.ohio-state.edu:/pub/tknews talk about SLOW...it looks really nice, but from what I read it does a little bit too much of the NNTP stuff in Tcl. if you have a nice quick machine use it. it also had a nasty habit of thrashing my .newsrc (this was a couple of versions back)...it subscribed me to alt.fan.barry-manilow once... -Tim -- Timothy J. Kordas | tjk@nostromo.eeap.cwru.edu Electrical Engineering and Applied Physics | Case Western Reserve University | PGP public key available Cleveland, Ohio 44106 | via finger ------------------------------ From: Kevin Martinez Subject: ATA or SCSI !! Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 01:03:22 GMT Using Mark Lords excellent hdparms program, I captured the following results from my machine. It has two disk drives, one ATA and the other SCSI. The funny thing about these drives is that except for the firmware and interface, they are identical. One is a Quantum LPS540 ATA and the other is a Quantum LPS540 SCSI. The computer is a brand x 486-66 clone running Linux 1.1.50 with no special patches. It has 16 MB of RAM and during the test was running Xwindows but doing nothing special (about 40 processes). The ATA interface is built into the motherboard and is considered ISA type. The SCSI interface is a Adaptec 1542CF set for 5.0 MB/sec, negotiate Synchcronous. (Who knows if it was really running sync or not!) The results show the ATA setup slightly faster than the SCSI but at the expense of 2 to 3 times the CPU bandwidth. Anybody want guess the results if someone else logged in during the tests? ;^) ======================================================================= (/dev/hda is the ATA drive) bash# hdparm -agmsit /dev/hda ; hdparm -t /dev/hda ; hdparm -t /dev/hda /dev/hda: readahead = 8 multcount = 8 geometry = 1024/16/63, offset = 0 sectors = 1032192 Model=QUANTUM LPS540A, FwRev=A57.0200QUANTUM LPS5, SerialNo=18532033 Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec Fixed DTR>5Mbs RotSpdTol>.5% } Physical CHS=1120/16/59, TrkSize=30208, SectSize=512, ECCbytes=4 BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=96KB, MaxMultSect=8 Features: DblWordIO=no, LBA=yes, DMA=yes, tPIO=2(fast), tDMA=2(fast) (valid): Logical CHS=1048/16/63, TotSect=1056383, MaxLBAsect=1056383 MultSect=8, DMA-1w=0704, DMA-mw=0101 Timing buffer-cache reads: 32 MB in 5.85 seconds = 5.47 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 16 MB in 11.52 seconds = 1.39 MB/sec (87% CPU) Estimating raw device speed: 16 MB in 8.59 seconds = 1.86 MB/sec /dev/hda: Timing buffer-cache reads: 32 MB in 5.80 seconds = 5.52 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 16 MB in 12.55 seconds = 1.27 MB/sec (79% CPU) Estimating raw device speed: 16 MB in 9.65 seconds = 1.66 MB/sec /dev/hda: Timing buffer-cache reads: 32 MB in 5.85 seconds = 5.47 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 16 MB in 11.69 seconds = 1.37 MB/sec (86% CPU) Estimating raw device speed: 16 MB in 8.77 seconds = 1.83 MB/sec (/dev/sda is the SCSI drive) bash# hdparm -gst /dev/sda ; hdparm -t /dev/sda ; hdparm -t /dev/sda /dev/sda: geometry = 516/64/32, offset = 0 sectors = 1057615 Timing buffer-cache reads: 32 MB in 5.80 seconds = 5.52 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 16 MB in 12.54 seconds = 1.28 MB/sec (30% CPU) Estimating raw device speed: 16 MB in 9.64 seconds = 1.66 MB/sec /dev/sda: Timing buffer-cache reads: 32 MB in 5.81 seconds = 5.51 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 16 MB in 12.99 seconds = 1.23 MB/sec (30% CPU) Estimating raw device speed: 16 MB in 10.09 seconds = 1.59 MB/sec /dev/sda: Timing buffer-cache reads: 32 MB in 5.81 seconds = 5.51 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 16 MB in 13.01 seconds = 1.23 MB/sec (30% CPU) Estimating raw device speed: 16 MB in 10.11 seconds = 1.58 MB/sec -- ======================================================================== Kevin Martinez Fear the Government that fears your Scanner! lps@rahul.net I owe all my success to Roly Poly Fish Heads! ======================================================================== ------------------------------ From: fheitkamp@nova.wright.edu Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development Subject: Imake configuration for X/Motif Date: 12 Oct 94 11:38:44 EST I have purchased SWiM for Linux. I have downloaded some examples of Motif programs that have an Imakefile for building them. The configuration files (Imake.tmpl etc.) for imake only point to X/standard development and not Motif, although there are Motif.tmpl (Motif.rules ...) files in the config directory. Where do I find, or how do I fix, the imake configuration files so that they are aware of Motif being installed? Thanks in advance!! Please E-Mail if possible. -Fred Heitkamp ------------------------------ From: georg@egalize.han.de (Georg Vollmers) Subject: Re: DOSEMU/Linux 1.1.51 Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 23:21:34 GMT Hi Oz, Oz Dror (dror@netcom.com) wrote: : Linux 1.1.51 : DOSEMU Pre0.53pl25 : Hi, : Dosemu has significantly improved compare with p17. I would like : to congratulate DOS EMU team. : But there is at least one problem. Only root can run it. I check permission : of dos it seems OK. : 9 -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root 9079 Oct 3 19:57 /usr/bin/dos : when a user type dos no error is printed, but also dos is not entered. In the file Quickstart you can find a little note. If other than root should have acces to dosemu youe have to edit the file /etc/dosemu.users and the name of the account. On my achine: 00:18:38 : root(root)@egalize[tty1]:/# cat /etc/dosemu.users root georg Works fine. Maybe this should find a way in the FAQ or man page, but its a prerelease! Happy Linuxing! Greetings from Germany Georg -- Georg Vollmers, 30159 Hannover, Kokenstr.10, Germoney E-Mehl: georg@egalize.han.de, IP number for SLIP! >>> 192.109.225.110 mtu 296 compressed or uncompressed<<< PC users:use Linux! Lovers:use lubbers! Rich:send money! Poor: can't read this ------------------------------ Date: 08 Oct 1994 19:59:00 +0100 From: lmb@pointer.in-minden.de (Lars Marowsky-Bree) Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? Quoting nickkral@po.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Nick Kralevich) , topic 'Word (Text) processors for Linux?', group /comp/unix/questions, stardate 04.10.94: >I've heard of TeX, but I'm not really sure what it is, and I'm >hesitating to install the 14 disks it takes for the binary >distribution. >What do you use? You should not use TeX. LaTeX is much easier, well, it is big, but I found it simple. After my first steps I took a timer and reformatted a 2 two page ascii text (with some chemical formulas) to a text with a title, tableofcontents, footnotes, etc. 10 min. (Ok, so it wasn't a long text, but remember I had to conver the german special characters etc) To make a long story short, I tried the same the next day using WinWord at a friends computer. Took me about an hour to get it somewhat close to the LaTeX output, then I gave up. So LaTeX can't be _that_ complicated;-) The main difference between these two is that LaTeX is a text formatter (WYWIWYG), while WinWord is a WYSIWYG editor. You write the input for LaTeX using any ascii editor (I prefer JOE/JED) and then LaTeX parses it. (Actually, LaTeX is "just" a macro package for TeX, but it makes things really easy, while not losing any power) LaTeX generates a .dvi file which then can be viewed or printed. Hey, I like it;-) I would recommend: try it at least. Go to your next library, and get an introduction to LaTeX. (I could recommend one, but only if you understand german;) If you don't like it - what have you lost? If you like it - what have you won! -- Lars Marowsky-Bree Voice: +49-571-63663 PGP-key via return receipt VirNet: 9:492/7158 Fido: 2:2449/620.16 Mail: lmb@pointer.in-minden.de PGP fingerprint: CF FC 3A F0 86 F1 D3 EB 79 8A CF 75 4F 4C 81 DF ## CrossPoint v3.02 ## ------------------------------ From: jeffpk@netcom.com (Jeff Kesselman) Subject: Re: Copying from CDROM to floppy - why does HD go active? Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 05:41:57 GMT In article <37bo5c$k2u@deathstar.riva.com>, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: >I noticed something strange when copying a boot disk image >from CDROM to floppy. Basically, I did the following: > >dd if=/cdrom/file-image of=/dev/fd0 obs=18k > >It said: >2400 input records >66+1 output records > >The CDROM activity light came on for a few seconds, then went off. >At this point the floppy light came on and it made the usual grinding >noises for a bit. What got me curious was why the root IDE drive was >also busy during this interval? Something to do with the buffer cache? >If not, what?? > > > I'ld guess it was swapping. Hwo much memory do you have and what else was running? (Also, is your swap partition on that volume?) JK ------------------------------ From: edwin@maui.cs.ucla.edu (E. Robert Tisdale) Subject: SW Technologies Date: 10 Oct 1994 23:28:13 -0700 jeffpk@netcom.com (Jeff Kesselman) writes: >In article <373rmu$bm0@pad-thai.cam.ov.com>, >Jonathan I. Kamens wrote: >>In article <3726hn$ihe@delphi.cs.ucla.edu>, >>edwin@maui.cs.ucla.edu (E. Robert Tisdale) writes: >Not that I particularly want to get cuaght up in this mess, but i felt i >aught to say something in Jonathan's defense. Bob said somethign in his >post on the order of "so Martin didn't have enough money to cover the >check. he evntually made good. Is that a crime?" I never said any such thing. I have sent Jeff three email messages attempting to get him to retract this statement but he can't remember who may have said it and apparently doesn't even remember what he said in his article. He just doesn't get it. Bob Tisdale ------------------------------ From: ramos@engr.latech.edu (Alex Ramos) Subject: I want SETUID scripts! Date: 12 Oct 1994 18:15:39 GMT Does anybody have patches for allowing setuid shell scripts? Like many other Linux users, the only reason I even have a *user* account on my system is mostly to avoid shooting myself on the foot. So, I don't care if setuid scripts are unsecure. As long as I can't break one on accident, it's fine with me. Thanks -- Alex Ramos (ramos@engr.latech.edu) * http://info.latech.edu/~ramos/ Louisiana Tech University, BSEE/Sr * These opinions are probably mine ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Misc-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.misc) via: Internet: Linux-Misc@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux End of Linux-Misc Digest ******************************