From: Digestifier To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 03:13:15 EDT Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #935 Linux-Misc Digest #935, Volume #2 Fri, 14 Oct 94 03:13:15 EDT Contents: gs printing every second page ? (Karsten Mauler) Re: Beautifying Linux/Xfree (Karsten Mauler) Need Italian and Spanish Xmodmaps (Jesus Ramos) Re: SW Technologies (Tim Bass (Network Systems Engineer)) Re: Linux Journal (Tim Bass (Network Systems Engineer)) Re: Does all SCO software run on Linux (root) Yggdrasil & X: What are VGA "clocks"? (Joe Janakovic) BUS MOUSE KERNEL BUGS (Bob Wilson) Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be aware (Jeff Kesselman) Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Alexander Williams) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SMOKIE@bmb.escape.de (Karsten Mauler) Subject: gs printing every second page ? Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 15:04:00 +0100 Hi 11.10.94 / 15:59 can anyone tell me, how i setup gs to print every second page ? The idea is to print first the front-sides of the paper an the the back-sides, to make it look like a book. Cu / Fido :Karsten Mauler@2:241/565.27 ** \ mokie ** Z-Netz :SMOKIE@BMB.escape.de / Inernet :SMOKIE@BMB.escape.de ## CrossPoint v3.02 R ## ------------------------------ From: SMOKIE@bmb.escape.de (Karsten Mauler) Subject: Re: Beautifying Linux/Xfree Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 15:05:00 +0100 Hi Andy 11.10.94 / 15:51 b> What I would like to b> do is discuss, with some other interested people, various configurations b> that they are using for fvwm, that they feel provide unique functionality. b> Also, since fvwm provides "modules", it might be possible to set about b> making some interesting new ones. b> Its just a wild idea, but I'd like to hear from anyone whos interested as b> well Oh, i think it would be great.But i must say too, that my knowlege of Linux and X isn't big.I've start with linux since about two month.At the moment i tried to connect my two machines :-) But if you start such discussion it maybe would very helpfull for me. BTW:Are there any Info's about the konfiguration of fvwm ? Cu / Fido :Karsten Mauler@2:241/565.27 ** \ mokie ** Z-Netz :SMOKIE@BMB.escape.de / Inernet :SMOKIE@BMB.escape.de ## CrossPoint v3.02 R ## ------------------------------ From: ramos@brixton (Jesus Ramos) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help Subject: Need Italian and Spanish Xmodmaps Date: 13 Oct 1994 15:29:14 GMT If you happen ti have any of these, or know where I can find them. please e-mail me Thanks Jesus Ramos ------------------------------ From: bass@cais2.cais.com (Tim Bass (Network Systems Engineer)) Subject: Re: SW Technologies Date: 13 Oct 1994 22:12:35 GMT Okay, Marvin make a mistake, we all have. Jonathan, please post your s-mail address and I'll send you the $4.00 ------------------------------ From: bass@cais2.cais.com (Tim Bass (Network Systems Engineer)) Subject: Re: Linux Journal Date: 13 Oct 1994 22:15:10 GMT Send e-mail to subs@ssc.com or phone (206) 527-3385 Craig Kawahara (craigk@skat.usc.edu) wrote: : How do I subscribe to this linux journal that I've been hearing so : much about? : Craig Kawhara : -- : ...it's hard work being this bored... : craigk@ucs.usc.edu | Microcomputer | Me? Speak for UCS? No way! : kawahara@scf.usc.edu | Consultant | : ------------------------------ From: fnrjh@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_DOMAIN_FILE (root) Subject: Re: Does all SCO software run on Linux Date: 13 Oct 1994 21:44:28 GMT I to have been using wp 5.1 for sco. I use it with linux 1.1.50 (fast!) and Xfree 2.1 Will try experment with Xfree 3.1 later... Robert fnrjh@dev103.elmer.alaska.edu Scott Weinstein (swein@csc.albany.edu) wrote: : >>>>> "Mike" == Mike Jagdis writes: : Mike> The fact that many, *many* people seem to be using iBCS but : Mike> hardly anyone talks to me would appear to suggest : Mike> there are few applications that have significant problems. I : Mike> might be reduced to adding 286 Xenix support soon :-(. : I posted about this in comp.windows.x.i368unix, but got no replies. : I've been using WP 5.1 for sco unix with linux and Xfree 2.1 for about : a month with no real problems. : I recently tried to upgrade to XFree 3.1. When I tried out WP, it gave : give me lots of Xm* error and then wold give me a seg violation. One time it : cause my HD to do *something* for about 1/2 hour. I ended up rebooting : that time. : I'm at kernel 1.1.45 and am now back to Xfree 2.1. ------------------------------ From: redgt@io.org (Joe Janakovic) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help Subject: Yggdrasil & X: What are VGA "clocks"? Date: 13 Oct 1994 22:03:22 -0400 I keep getting asked this question while trying to install an X server for my video card. No matter what I do here (ie. hit enter to accept the default as it suggests), the monitor can't sync to the video. I've tried different values that are all over the map (20 - 135) with no luck. The yggdrasil docs are no help. I'm running an ATI Mach64 video card with a 3yr-old 1024x768i monitor that I have no docs for. The standard vga16 server works fine, anything else (incuding auto-detect, ati, mach64, etc) all cause the monitor to fizzle... How can find out what value(s) I need to specify? -- Joe Janakovic Internet: joej@golddisk.com Software Developer redgt@io.org Gold Disk, Inc. Toronto, Ont., Canada "ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI!" ------------------------------ From: bwilson@netcom.com (Bob Wilson) Subject: BUS MOUSE KERNEL BUGS Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 05:55:11 GMT Possible BUG with BUSMOUSE Code ******************************************** Linux Kernel Revision : 1.1.50 Mouse in Question : Logitech Bus Model No. P7-3F (Old Box like, 3 button Style) Mouse IRQ : 5 ============================================================================ Now watch procinfo : Linux version 1.1.50 (root@ihoh) (gcc version 2.5.8) #2 Sun Sep 18 21:14:39 PDT 1994 Memory: Total Used Free Shared Buffers Mem: 18968 6020 12948 4068 2284 Swap: 16136 0 16136 Bootup: Thu Sep 22 12:13:34 1994 Load average: 0.03 0.02 0.00 user : 0:00:06.48 0.9% page in : 2219 nice : 0:00:00.00 0.0% page out: 416 system: 0:00:20.71 2.8% swap in : 1 idle : 0:11:53.88 96.3% swap out: 0 uptime: 0:12:21.05 context : 30580 irq 0: 74107 irq 4: 0 irq 8: 0 irq 12: 0 irq 1: 4651 irq 5: 9169730 irq 9: 0 irq 13: 0 irq 2: 0 irq 6: 5 irq 10: 0 irq 14: 87 irq 3: 4081 irq 7: 0 irq 11: 1334 irq 15: 0 **NOTICE IRQ 5** (Allowing a minute or two to pass) Here it is again : Linux version 1.1.50 (root@ihoh) (gcc version 2.5.8) #2 Sun Sep 18 21:14:39 PDT 1994 Memory: Total Used Free Shared Buffers Mem: 18968 6032 12936 4068 2288 Swap: 16136 0 16136 Bootup: Thu Sep 22 12:13:34 1994 Load average: 0.02 0.02 0.00 user : 0:00:07.36 0.9% page in : 2240 nice : 0:00:00.00 0.0% page out: 451 system: 0:00:23.28 2.8% swap in : 1 idle : 0:13:32.14 96.4% swap out: 0 uptime: 0:14:02.75 context : 35750 irq 0: 84278 irq 4: 0 irq 8: 0 irq 12: 0 irq 1: 5084 irq 5: 11187988 irq 9: 0 irq 13: 0 irq 2: 0 irq 6: 5 irq 10: 0 irq 14: 87 irq 3: 4461 irq 7: 0 irq 11: 1367 irq 15: 0 **NOTICE SHARP INCREASE!!** Notes : I've noticed this problem for a while now, but I haven't done anything about it until I realized that my compile times were taking WAY to long, and (sigh) DOOM was unplayable. It is not reported in the load average information of course. Other problems I've found is that it will conflict with some of my low-irq devices, such as my Sound Blaster on IRQ 7. If I am catting a sample to /dev/dsp1 (The Sound Blaster device when using a ProAudio Spectrum 16) the sample will pop, skip, and jump, and eventually I'll get an IO error with the DSP, and the process will die. I have noticed this problem with the original Sound Blaster as well (before I upgraded to the PAS 16). I have tried compiling the kernel to use the Bus Mouse on other IRQs, including 3, and 4. The problem follows the IRQ, and can be seen in procinfo. In general, I don't notice any mouse jumpy-ness in either X Windows, or under Selection. However, under selection, I do notice severe problems controlling the mouse when I am catting to /dev/dsp1. It will ignore half of my requests. Procinfo does not show any increase as long as nothing is using the mouse. ie, X isn't running, or selection isn't running. But the second they startup whether or not I move the mouse, it climbs *fast*. Under DOS v6.2 with Logitechs Driver, and Under Windows AND OS/2 v2.1, v2.11, v2.99 (WARP 2 BETA) AND NeXT STEP v3.1, v3.2 I don't notice any problems with the mouse. Other System Information : - DX2/66 VLB 20 MB RAM - Adaptec 1540 IRQ 11/330h (attached to) 2 HD, 1 Tape, 1 CDROM - ISA I/O Card. 16550 on COM2 (Defaults) - VLB IDE Hard Drive Controller (attached to) 2 FD, 1 HD - ProAudio Spectrum 16 IRQ 12/380h/DMA3 (containing) SoundBlaster 8Bit IRQ 7/220h/DMA1 - 8 Bit Logitech Bus Mouse Controller IRQ 5 ** END OF REPORT ** Please email me back with a response, as I don't usually read these news groups. Thanks. bwilson@netcom.com ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help From: jeffpk@netcom.com (Jeff Kesselman) Subject: Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be aware Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 00:02:36 GMT NOTE: I normally sign these notes with a disclaimer BUt to to the nature of this particular gripe list and my at times somewhat harsh responses to it, i am going to BEGIN this note with the following disclaimer: I do not now, nor have I ever worked for Yygdrasil. I have no financial conenction to them whatsoever beyond being a happy and satisfied customer. In article <37iega$80k@ionews.io.org>, Eric Silver wrote: >Yan Xiao (yxiao@umabnet.ab.umd.edu) wrote: > >I bought this version three and half weeks ago as well. >I was very impressed with the installation program (as compared to >Unixware 1.1 AS). Very smooth and a hell of a lot more straightforward. >HOWEVER, >1.) I have yet to get minicom to download using zmodem although I > can dial into my UNIX (BSD) Internet provider. > Downloaded files using XMODEM protocol will not run, I get > segement errors. These programs include unzip and joe . > Yes, my settings are 8N1. My minicom (on Fall94) came configured with a bad flag to the upload and download protocols. Jsut go into configuration mode as root and change the upload and download command strinsg to remove the flags. Its worth noting, though that i have had on and off problems oin other systems and with other terminal programs with Y and Z modem. It seems not all implementers agrred %100 on what the specs meant. (Xmodem is simpel enough that it ALWAYS seems to work.) BUT I've been doing Z modem just fine bringing stuff down from netcom to my Y-Fall94 system with minicom, so I don't think its the Linux protocol thats bad... >2.) xmodem downloading adds a few hundred bytes to We used to have a problem similar to this on the Amiga. Xmodem by definition pads the last block if it doesn't fit exactly. Normally this is not a problem, but on the Amiga there is a checksum at the end of executables. we had a program we used on the amiga that trimmed off any trailing nulls after a download. >3.) Simple text editors like joe (give me joe any day I don't > use emacs, I don't use vi ) are NOT included. @#$%@!! > THIS IS MY BIGGEST COMPLAINT! > (If I had the joe editor I could have a least done > other work). The joe editor is specifically mentioned > in your install manual. Okay. I'm sorry your favorite editor isn't there. Its worth noting that i use vi NOT because I love it, but because I CAN be gauranteed all UNIX systems have it. If you are going to chose to use another editor, you ARe going to run into vanilla UNIX installations that don't have your editor. Grab it off of an ftp site and recompile. >4.) Mounting a dos disk and copying using the > cp -p /mnt/unzip /home/root/unzip command results > in a properly copied file BUT the binary can not execute. I assume you are talking about using the DOSEMU emulator, sicne no one woudl expect dos EXE files to run natively under Linux. I'm afraid i can't help you tehre 'cause I haven't used it. >5.) Attempting to use getty according to documentation does > not work. Therefore downloading known operating versions > of files can not be accoplished. I'm VERY confused. getty is your tty handler. How does this pertian to doing downloads? I'm obviously not following you... >6.) Ethernet 3C509TP can not ping another workstation on the same > LAN although Wollongong DOS drivers allow this. Assumign thsi is a supported driver, if you are properly configured, you should be able to ping. Are you using the proper ip number? if you are trying to ping by host name, have you configued you hosts file? Network setup under UNIX takes a little bit of twiddlign with files. >7.) No BBS software on the CD although mentioned in the Bible. > (If you have room for dup_ramdisk etc, you got room for this. This is just plain silly. I'm sorry, but tehre is NO WAY Yygdrasil can put ALL available Linux software on the PnP disc. Just because a HOW-TO or informational sheet included in the bible mentioend something does NOT mean yygdrasil is supplying it. if you read the intro at the front of the bible, you will find it contains 3 basic types of information: a) One version of the yygdrasil manual (whichever was current when it was printed.) b) various HOW-TO guides from the net. c) variosu docs from the Linux documentation project. Of these, ONLY A is specific to the yygdrasil release. >8.) No instructions in the manual on HOW to make Xwindows run from > hda1 without having the /system_cd mounted. Sure there are. Use install_component on the x11progs package. I admit that the list of what i in this pckage coudl have been a little mroe detailed, but it really shouldn't have been THAT hard to take an educated guess at given the names of all the other components in NO way referencing X. Also, thsi info has been nadided abotu here alot. BTW; You DO have the rrata sheet, don't you? if not, pop over to the yygdrasil ftp site and get it. >9.) The networking component is mentioned in your install manual > (pg. 24) but is not available in the install_component list > nor is it mentioned in the errata file, nor does it install > properly from the Xwindows. I've installed the networkj software and it instaleld and runs just fine. Currently, I'm onyl using one station, but I'm using telnet and the socket supprot locally. Nexst month I'm going SLIp and I really don't expect any problems. Again., did you get the errata? If not, I wouldn't be suprised if you got NOTHING instaleld correctly since there is a specific peice of errata regarding one packeage (userbin) that MUSt be installed first from the command line before you can use the X based installer. >10.) MS-DOS MSCDEX will not activate CDROM properly, Tell us more abotu your problem, like what errors you see, and maybe we can help you. > bootflpy.3in hangs after the letters 'LI' appear on the > screen. (The story behind this is that UW 1.1 AS was used to > copy this file and RAWRITE.EXE to a DOS PC. So that I could > create a second install disk. The first install disk that came > with the package operates fine. i have no idea what UW 1.1 AS is, but you clearly have a corrupted image of the revision B floppy on your disk, as it works fine for me. If you like, I will send you a uuencoded copy of my 3in revB boot floppy (which came from the yygdrasil ftp site) and a uuencoded copy of my rawwrite.exe (which came right off of the Fall94 CD-ROM). I have sent these to many other people who have had no trouble using them. > >Other than these few insurrmountable hurdles, things are just ducky! NOT! >Before yggdrasil dumps on me, yes I ftp'd errata from your ftp >site 1 day after purchasing the package. >I guess its my own fault. As consumers we should expect thirty-nine >dollar performance from a $39.00 (plus tax) Unix. I'll be happy to >post more problems as I come across them. >Eric Silver If I can be frank for a moment, it looks to me like most of your insurmountable hurdles regard your own knowledge and expectations. All the sfotware you cited as 'missing' are not in general in commercially realesed UNIX installations. Thats what the net is for. Most of your 'defects' are unique to your situation, many others have had no trouble with these features, particularly after following the instructions in the errata sheet. It IS concievable that you have some very weird hardware that is causing some of your problems, but as you give NO specifics as to exactly how the sofwtare creashes and what it prinst out, tehres not much anyone can do to help you. jeff Kesselman ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions From: thantos@runic.mind.org (Alexander Williams) Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 13:56:08 GMT In article <379kpg$3ji@solaria.cc.gatech.edu>, Byron A Jeff wrote: >Folks neither TeX, groff, or another other typesetter, or emulated WP like >WordPerfect under DOS/WINDOWS or SCO is going to cut it here. A Wordprocessor >is such a critical resource in a computing system that Linux has the potential >of never making inroads beyond its supposed "hacker/Unix junkie" clientele. I disagree, at least about TeX, groff etc ``not cutting'' it in terms of effectiveness. That's simply a non-truth. What we /may/ need is some kind of ``front-end'' for those who don't want the nitty-gritty of dealing with TeX directly. Let's be frank, what WYSIWYG word processor for other platforms has the full functionality of TeX? Admittedly, I used Ventura Publisher as a word-processor for a while, I but asside from /that/... It should be /far/ easier to create a system that backends onto TeX or groff, depending on one's tastes (and which can /read/ those formats as well, that's important in an environ that passes them around in themselves), and which can use the tools of power already extant to build on. Creating something from scratch seems to /me/ to be rebuilding the wheel rather than simply making it look snazzy. Of course, for my money I use Emacs on the LaTeX front, as little as I know, and keep wishing it had a groff-mode too. :) nuclear Semtex jihad FBI counter-intelligence Mossad BATF Croatian Marxist South Africa AK-47 arrangements NSA terrorist Panama -- thantos@runic.mind.org (Alexander Williams) | PGP 2.6 key avail Email is the right of the masses. So do it. | DF 22 16 CE CA 7F Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be the Whole of the | 98 47 13 EE 8E EC Law. 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