From: Digestifier To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Sat, 15 Oct 94 11:13:15 EDT Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #943 Linux-Misc Digest #943, Volume #2 Sat, 15 Oct 94 11:13:15 EDT Contents: Re: Applets; was: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Alexandra Griffin) Re: MINICOM Downloading Not Working (Stephen Gourdie) *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.09) (Ian Jackson) WANTED: Metrolink Motif Update (1.2.2 to 1.2.4) (Joseph Kuan) Re: Is linux a multithreaded operating system? (Alan Cox) Re: Weakest Linux Box (Stormy Henderson) Re: Weakest Linux Box (Barth Andreas) Re: Mystery Chip...AMD (Jason Saunders) DoomX where (Spire Technologies) Problems with ATI GU+ and Linux (Derek Wright) Re: Problems with ATI GU+ and Linux (Derek Wright) Re: Removeable-media support in Linux ? (Randy Hootman) Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Sergei Naoumov) Re: Overlaid swap files (was Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be (Gerry Snyder) inb/inbc not found (Brian Lane) Re: Why doesn't EMAIL work? (Rob Ransbottom) Re: DOSEMU/Linux 1.1.51 (Aapo Meili) Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Christian Javet) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: acg@kzin.cen.ufl.edu (Alexandra Griffin) Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: Applets; was: Word (Text) processors for Linux? Date: 15 Oct 1994 10:11:19 GMT In article <37md3q$hoc@solaria.cc.gatech.edu>, Byron A Jeff wrote: >-> 5. a pim / calendar: something better than "calendar", but simpler >-> than "organiser"; > >plan Could you post an FTP location for this program? "plan" is too small a pattern to effectively archie for. Thanks. -- alex ------------------------------ From: steve@stevegd.equinox.gen.nz (Stephen Gourdie) Subject: Re: MINICOM Downloading Not Working Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 04:49:00 GMT Eric Silver (silver.e@grin.io.org) wrote: : I tried several times to make the rz and rx part of MINICOM work. : I was trying to download a file from a UNIX BBS and the system : seems to just sit there. I can perform this same function using : DOS based PROCOMM PLUS. The order I do things in is; : $sz filename [Enter] from the shell prompt at the BBS : ctrl-a r : z [Enter] : filename typed in pop up box In the 'configuration' menu, under the 'File transfer protocols' item change program names: /usr/bin/rz -vv and /usr/bin/sz -vv to /usr/bin/rz -vv /dev/modem and /usr/bin/sz -vv /dev/modem and all should work well. Steve ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Stephen F. Gourdie steve@stevegd.equinox.gen.nz (pref) Christchurch Stephen_Gourdie@equinox.gen.nz New Zealand ph (643) 389 4332 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ------------------------------ From: ijackson@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ian Jackson) Subject: *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.09) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 10:03:01 GMT Please do not post questions to comp.os.linux.misc - read on for details of which groups you should read and post to. Please do not crosspost anything between different groups of the comp.os.linux hierarchy. See Matt Welsh's introduction to the hierarchy, posted biweekly to comp.os.linux.announce. If you have a question about Linux you should get and read the Linux Frequently Asked Questions with Answers list from sunsite.unc.edu, in /pub/Linux/docs, or from another Linux FTP site. It is also posted periodically to c.o.l.announce. In particular, read the question `You still haven't answered my question!' The FAQ will refer you to the Linux HOWTOs (more detailed descriptions of particular topics) found in the HOWTO directory in the same place. Then you should consider posting to comp.os.linux.help - not comp.os.linux.misc. Note that X Windows related questions should go to comp.windows.x.i386unix, and that non-Linux-specific Unix questions should go to comp.unix.questions. Please read the FAQs for these groups before posting - look on rtfm.mit.edu in /pub/usenet/news.answers/Intel-Unix-X-faq and .../unix-faq. Only if you have a posting that is not more appropriate for one of the other Linux groups - ie it is not a question, not a contribution to the development of Linux, not an announcement or bug report and not about system administration - should you post to comp.os.linux.misc. Comments on this posting are welcomed - please email me ! -- Ian Jackson (urgent email: iwj@cam-orl.co.uk) 2 Lexington Close, Cambridge, CB4 3LS, England; phone: +44 1223 64238 ------------------------------ From: jk94r@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Joseph Kuan) Subject: WANTED: Metrolink Motif Update (1.2.2 to 1.2.4) Date: 14 Oct 1994 16:20:00 +0100 Can anyone tell where can I get the update version of Metrolink Motif for Linux update for 1.2.2 to 1.2.4? Thanks in advance Joe (jk94r) ------------------------------ From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: Is linux a multithreaded operating system? Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 13:48:45 GMT In article <37a4na$t0c@bosnia.pop.psu.edu> barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr) writes: >In article , >Jeff Kesselman wrote: >>So yes, UNIX is multi-threaded in the sens that there are multiple threads >>of control operating in a time-sliced fashion. The term 'threading' is >>often used in multi-tasking system however to denote a 'lesser form' of >>multi-taskign that goes on completely within a single process. > >Not quite. Most UNIXes (including Linux) are not multi-threaded at all. Linux has 'clone'. I'd rephrase it as Linux has multi-threading support that sort of looks neat but nobody is using it 8) Alan -- ..-----------,,----------------------------,,----------------------------,, // Alan Cox // iialan@www.linux.org.uk // GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU // ``----------'`----------------------------'`----------------------------'' ------------------------------ From: Stormy@Purple.Madness (Stormy Henderson) Subject: Re: Weakest Linux Box Date: 13 Oct 1994 08:33:10 GMT Reply-To: Stormy@Grand.Mother.Com Linux Mac Daddy wrote: I was just wondering who has the weakest Linux box? What I mean by this is like anyone running Linux on a 386 with 3 megs of RAM... I've got a 386sx-16 with 5 megs of RAM and it works great (tons faster than DOS). If anyone has a "weaker" machine that runs Linux (and you actually use it) let's hear it.... I ran Slackware 1.1.1 on a 386sx16 with 4 meg ram and a 20 meg hard drive for 3 months. It had the a, ap, n, and d disks. Was quite a tight fit. Be happy... - Stormy the happinator "The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ Moves on: nor all your Piety nor Wit Reply to: Shall lure it back to cancel half a line, stormy@phs.k12.ar.us Nor all your Tears wash out a Word of it." ------------------------------ From: BARTH@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Barth Andreas) Subject: Re: Weakest Linux Box Date: 12 Oct 1994 16:54:33 GMT In <37cj08$7m0@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> henslelf@henslelf.student.rose-hulman.edu writes: > I was just wondering who has the weakest Linux box? What I mean by this > is like anyone running Linux on a 386 with 3 megs of RAM... I've got a > 386sx-16 with 5 megs of RAM and it works great (tons faster than DOS). > If anyone has a "weaker" machine that runs Linux (and you actually use > it) let's hear it.... > I run linux on 386SX-33 with 2MB RAM (notebook). Is that weaker than yours? (more MHz, less RAM...) Bye, Andy ------------------------------ From: maupb@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Jason Saunders) Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems Subject: Re: Mystery Chip...AMD Date: 13 Oct 1994 13:54:18 +0100 In article <37j9j7$i5n@huron.eel.ufl.edu>, acg@kzin.cen.ufl.edu (Alexandra Griffin) writes: +In article <37iuhc$lkk@holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk>, +Jason Saunders wrote: +>I wonder if anyone has tried running the new DX2-80 at 90 or 100MHz? Now that +>would be something to reckon with! A DX2-100 would in fact be faster than a +>DX4-100. +But the DX/4-100 *can* be run as a dx/2-- [stuff deleted] I grant you can do this, but is it worth the extra expense over a AMD DX2-80? Jason -- Jason L Saunders Argo Business Consultants 22 Samuel Hayward House, Roseberry Avenue, Coventry, UK, CV2 1QR Tel: (0203) 666454 ------------------------------ From: spire@teleport.com (Spire Technologies) Subject: DoomX where Date: 14 Oct 1994 12:05:26 -0700 Where in the world can I find doomX? -- Spire Technologies Ave. Portland Or Phone (503)222-3086 ------------------------------ From: dwright@yar.cs.wisc.edu (Derek Wright) Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video Subject: Problems with ATI GU+ and Linux Date: 9 Oct 1994 20:27:08 GMT So far I've had two problems with a recently aquired ATI GU+ VLB card and Linux (and I haven't even gotten to X yet). First of all, the card doesn't seem to want to support the 100X40 and the 100X32 (or whatever it is) text modes. When I use vga=ask in the lilo config file, I'm propted with the possiblites of these modes at boot time, but when I select them, the kernel just boots into 80X25 mode. 132X25 and 132X44 work ok. The other problem is that when I switch between VCs, sometimes the font will get all screwed up (parts of letters will be missing, etc). I can reload the font using setfont and that will fix it, but after a while when I switch VCs or use selection or try to scroll back into video memory, it gets messed up again. The card has 2 megs of DRAM, and I have tried it at all combinations of the vga memory size option and the memory apature option. I've tried raising my wait-states up to 2, and tried changing the bus speed. The problem also occures under DOS. I've run norton's video memory tests under ndiags, I've run the tests that come with the ATI utilities, both pass without any problems. I have an AMD 486DX450 CPU, VLB motherboard, Biotec chipset, AMI bios, 16 megs of RAM. The ATI has a RAMDAC of 68875BFN, 2 megs of 60ns DRAM, and the Mach 32 chipset. If anyone has any ideas, please email me. Thanks. -Derek dwright@picard.cs.wisc.edu ------------------------------ From: dwright@yar.cs.wisc.edu (Derek Wright) Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video Subject: Re: Problems with ATI GU+ and Linux Date: 9 Oct 1994 20:42:05 GMT I forgot to mention in my previous post that when the font does get screwed up, it seems like only uppercase letters and punctuation gets altered. Numbers and lowercase and some punctuation remains normal. Just thought I'd mention everything I could think of. -Derek ------------------------------ From: rph@netcom.com (Randy Hootman) Subject: Re: Removeable-media support in Linux ? Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 23:54:04 GMT My Syquest 45M Removeable (SCSI) worked right off the first time. No problems! Randy : I haven't seen this anywhere, but I was wondering if : Linux supports any removeable-media drives like Syquest : or Bernoulli drives... : -Randy : --- : ______________________________________________________________________ : / \ : | Randy Zagar | Voice: 302/831-1139 | : | College of Marine Studies | FAX: 302/831-6838 | : | University of Delaware | Internet: zagar@Chester.cms.udel.edu | : | Newark, DE 19711 | Compu$erve: 73072,1413 | : |----------------------------------------------------------------------| : | PGP Key available on request, or by 'finger'. | : \______________________________________________________________________/ -- /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "In recognizing the humanity of our fellow beings, we pay ourselves the highest tribute." - Thurgood Marshall ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Randy Hootman Randysoft Software (408) 229-0119 ------------------------------ From: naoumov@PHYSICS.UNC.EDU (Sergei Naoumov) Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? Date: 14 Oct 1994 21:09:59 GMT In article <131094151826@rempt.xs4all.nl>, boud@rempt.xs4all.nl (Boudewijn) writes: |> > You're wrong. You can easily combine hebrew, arabic, english,, |> > classical greek, devenagari, aramaic, ... with TeX. |> > There is an extension to the TeX program proper which is called |> > Tex-Xet. It is easy to apply the patch when you install TeX. |> |> And where would this be? I would love to try it out. Any CTAN archive. Try ftp.shsu.edu in the directory tex-archive/ Sergei -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Sergei O. Naoumov serge@envy.astro.unc.edu tel: (919)962-3998 + +Department of Physics & Astronomy, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599, USA+ +++++++++++ http://sunsite.oit.unc.edu/sergei/Me/Serge.html +++++++++++ ------------------------------ From: Gerald.C.Snyder@jpl.nasa.gov (Gerry Snyder) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help Subject: Re: Overlaid swap files (was Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be Date: 14 Oct 1994 14:29:24 GMT In article , mlm@cs.brown.edu (Moises Lejter) says: > >In article <37jtnd$ac8@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>, andreas@orion.mgen.uni-heidelberg.de (Andreas Helke) writes: > > moi> I installed Linux from the Yggdrasil Fall 94 CD on a Packard-Bell > moi> 486SX33, with 8MB. When prompted for a swap partition, I declined to > moi> specify one, since I planned to set one up later, "on top of" my > moi> windows swap file. > > Andreas> The process I use is to create a appropriately sized DOS > Andreas> partition and create a DOS filesystem on it. Save the first > Andreas> sectors (root directory and partition table) to a file. I > Andreas> activate this partition as linux swap partition when > Andreas> booting linux and restore the file to the partition when > Andreas> shutting down. > >This will work, I suspect, with all the caveats that Andreas describes >- and it is what I was going to do first. But, it then occurred to me >that Linux can mount MSDOS file systems... so this is what I did: > >- Create a MSDOS partition for Windows swap, about 10MB - call it > drive G: in MSDOS, /dev/hda3 on Linux. >- Start up windows, tell it to use drive G: for swap, and allocate all > but 50K to it (just in case). Windows complains that it cannot use > all of that - I ignore the warning :-) Windows reports 9796K of swap. >- Quit Windows, boot Linux >- In /etc/fstab, add something like this (I am not at home...) > > # partition mount dir filesys format > /dev/hda3 /winswap msdos > > Drive G: will then be mounted under linux as /winswap. >- Create a symbolic link, from the shell: > # ln -s /winswap/386spar.par /dev/swapfile > (not sure that is the exact correct name for the Windows swap file, > but you can just do an ls there and see...) I just wanted the > symlink, in case I ever decided to rearrange where that swap file > lives... >- In /etc/rc.multi (or wherever your setup activates swap) add these > lines: > > # add Windows swap file as Linux swap > mkswap /dev/swapfile 9796 > swapon /dev/swapfile > > And voila, Linux will swap to that same Windows swap file. >- You must also remember to undo this on shutdown. In /etc/rc.halt, > add the lines: > > # disable Windows swap file > swapoff /dev/swapfile > > *before* the "umount -a" line. I suspect nothing untoward will > happen if you forget this - but it is the "proper" thing to do... > :-) > >I have read that the Linux msdos file system is slower than the >others, and I suspect that writing through the file system code is >slower than writing directly to the raw partition - but it lets me >reuse the disk space allocated to the Windows swap... > >If people are interested, and this does not seem to work as is, I can >email you the exact changes from my Linux setup, rather than this >sketch drawn from memory... > >Moises >-- This may be ok (I have no reason to doubt it), but for just a little more work you can make it a Linux swap partition rather than just a swap file. See the mini how-to for details. >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Internet/CSnet: Moises_Lejter@brown.edu BITNET: mlm@browncs.BITNET >UUCP: ...!uunet!cs.brown.edu!mlm Phone: (401)863-7671 >USmail: Moises Lejter, Box 1910 Brown University, Providence RI 02912 Gerry Gerald.C.Snyder@jpl.nasa.gov ------------------------------ From: blane@seanet.com (Brian Lane) Subject: inb/inbc not found Date: 14 Oct 1994 06:32:31 GMT I'm working on a Linux program to run my PIC processor programmer using the parallel port. I snagged the Linux Programmers Manual, and tried compiling the example printer port code. After several header additions my last errors ar the linker not finding __inb and __inbc! I've looked through the libraries and cannot find these functions anywhere. Help! Brian -- ============================================================================== "A little rebellion now and then is a good thing." | finger blane@seanet.com President Thomas Jefferson | PGP 2.6 email accepted ============================================================================== ------------------------------ From: rob@phavl.uucp (Rob Ransbottom) Subject: Re: Why doesn't EMAIL work? Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 06:35:10 GMT In article , Paul Pearson wrote: >I can't seem to get email working correctly with Linux 1.0.9 >(the Slackware distribution). I am using elm on the virutual >consoles and CAN send messages to other users on the same >system. However, if the user doesn't have an account on the >local system, the mail never reaches them. Also, mail coming >from a remote system never arrives at my Linux box. I have >tried mailing directly to the Linux box's IP address (e.g. >user@198.60.24.139) rather than utilizing the name server. > >I assume that 'deliver' is working correctly because local mail >works fine. I guess my question is, how does 'smail' need to >be set up and does it need to run as a background proccess all >the time in order for mail to be delivered/received to/from >remote sites? > >Also, I used 'mail' with the verbose mode turned on and I see a >message that says something like: > > read error in output from '/usr/bin/uuname' > >ANY suggestions would be helpful -- and please don't say "read >the HOWTO" because I have and it doesn't seem to help me Read the output of tail -f /var/spool/smail/logfile after you run /usr/lib/smail/tools.linux/mkconfig. This should lead you to edit various /var/lib/smail/maps/* files and the /var/lib/smail/routers file and the /var/lib/smail/config file. In routers you probably will want to use bsearch on all the pathfiles you have, that is if you have a site which needs little knowledge of the topography of the net. ------------------------------ From: meili@srztm304.alcatel.ch (Aapo Meili) Subject: Re: DOSEMU/Linux 1.1.51 Date: 13 Oct 1994 09:20:50 GMT Reply-To: aapo.meili@alcatel.ch Oz Dror (dror@netcom.com) wrote: : Linux 1.1.51 : DOSEMU Pre0.53pl25 : Hi, : Dosemu has significantly improved compare with p17. I would like : to congratulate DOS EMU team. : But there is at least one problem. Only root can run it. I check permission : of dos it seems OK. There is at least one problem more. dosemu works only in xtern, at the the system hands and you have to reboot the system. I have the following message in the output-file: KBD: GET LEDS key 96 0x00, 97 0x00, kbc1 0x00, kbc2 0x00 couldn't open terminfo file /usr/lib/terminfo/c/con80x60. The terminal you are using is not defined. ------------------------------ From: javet@di.epfl.ch (Christian Javet) Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? Date: 15 Oct 1994 13:39:06 GMT In article , Prof. Gavrie Philipson wrote: %% Well, as for converting DOS/Linux file formats: %% Slackware has two little progs, fromdos/todos which do just that. %% Moreover, there is a filter (don't remember its name) which converts RTF/TeX. %% So it should be easy enough to move files between TeX/WinWord/Mac. %% %% I heard there is a package for Emacs, called AUC-TeX, which uses a special TeX %% mode. Where can I get it? %% %% %% -- %% Gavrie Philipson %% gavrie@sparc.jct.ac.il Here is a small part of the README file of auctex version 9.0: > Availability >============ > > The most resent version is always available by ftp at > > `ftp://ftp.iesd.auc.dk/pub/emacs-lisp/auctex.tar.gz' > > In case you don't have access anonymous ftp, you can get it by email >requests to `'. > > WWW users may want to check out the AUC TeX page at > > `http://www.iesd.auc.dk/~amanda/aucTeX/' Hope this helps .... 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