From: Digestifier To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Sat, 15 Oct 94 16:13:11 EDT Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #944 Linux-Misc Digest #944, Volume #2 Sat, 15 Oct 94 16:13:11 EDT Contents: Re: Overlaid swap files (was Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be (Moises Lejter) Re: Overlaid swap files (was Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be (Moises Lejter) Re: Telnet & ftp freeze! - AND UNFREEZE KLUDGE (Donald Becker) Tar | Seyon Problems (David J Topper) Re: Nailed down to 386bsd or linux, now which one? (Geoff Rehmet) Re: Emacs & LaTeX (Was: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?) (Tim Holmes) Re: Beautifying Linux/Xfree (Andrew R. Tefft) MINICOM Downloading Not Working (Eric Silver) Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be aware (Moises Lejter) Linux, Adaptec1542C-SCSI-II (Twigt CJ) Re: DoomX where (Anthony W. Kay) Re: IDE or SCSI CD-ROM (Anthony W. Kay) ?????? how many space do I need ?????? (Benny) Re: What is Linux good for? [Q] Linux for PowerBooks (Tim Bass (Network Systems Engineer)) Re: Problem with TERM (Marko Schuetz) getty/uugetty problems in slackware (BUG REPORT) (Joe Rhett) How to setup Linux to be a WWW server? (Paul Pearson) Which fonts to get for Mosaic? (Alexandra Griffin) Re: siscad (Alexandra Griffin) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help From: mlm@cs.brown.edu (Moises Lejter) Subject: Re: Overlaid swap files (was Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be Reply-To: mlm@cs.brown.edu Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 07:49:17 GMT Gerry> This may be ok (I have no reason to doubt it), but for just a Gerry> little more work you can make it a Linux swap partition Gerry> rather than just a swap file. See the mini how-to for Gerry> details. I know... but it worried me, though, that if Linux crashed I would have to go through a couple of steps before running DOS/Windows instead. Moises -- ============================================================================= Internet/CSnet: Moises_Lejter@brown.edu BITNET: mlm@browncs.BITNET UUCP: ...!uunet!cs.brown.edu!mlm Phone: (401)863-7671 USmail: Moises Lejter, Box 1910 Brown University, Providence RI 02912 ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help From: mlm@cs.brown.edu (Moises Lejter) Subject: Re: Overlaid swap files (was Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be Reply-To: mlm@cs.brown.edu Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 07:54:51 GMT In connection with all this - I've booted Linux off a few times since setting up as described in my previous message, and I have found a small problem. In particular, I do this to set up my Windows swap file as a Linux partition: Moises> - In /etc/rc.multi (or wherever your setup activates swap) Moises> add these lines: Moises> # add Windows swap file as Linux swap Moises> mkswap /dev/swapfile 9796 Moises> swapon /dev/swapfile I have noticed that a couple of times it's told me that it is setting up a swap file that is ~10MB (output from mkswap) then it's told me that it is activating ~17M (output from swapon) - yet my only swap is that lone swapfile that is only 10MB. My total memory, swap plus real, is ~17MB - but real mem should not be counted in that output from swapon, should it? The other times I've booted up Linux, it says (correctly, I think) that it is activating ~10MB of swap. Anyone have any thoughts about what might be going wrong? Thanks! Moises -- ============================================================================= Internet/CSnet: Moises_Lejter@brown.edu BITNET: mlm@browncs.BITNET UUCP: ...!uunet!cs.brown.edu!mlm Phone: (401)863-7671 USmail: Moises Lejter, Box 1910 Brown University, Providence RI 02912 ------------------------------ From: becker@cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov (Donald Becker) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.development Subject: Re: Telnet & ftp freeze! - AND UNFREEZE KLUDGE Date: 15 Oct 1994 10:11:34 -0400 [[ I rarely quote whole articles, but this one seemed important. ]] In article <37mui3$44c@mickey.iaccess.za>, Steve Davies wrote: >We experience a problem on out Linux 1.1.19 systems where >the inetd goes deaf and won't handle any more incoming connections. > >If you run inetd in debugging mode then as I recall you see that >select() starts to return -1 [Dimly remembered] > >The fix is to kill inetd and start a new one. > >The cause? I have found that the problem is caused by people connecting >with SLIP and using the *wrong IP address* on their end. In other words >they have configured their IP stack with an address different from that >in the diphosts file. This would explain a lot! The problem is unlikely to happen with other connection types. Most people that could track this problem down have correctly configured connections and never see the problem. -- Donald Becker becker@cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov USRA-CESDIS, Center of Excellence in Space Data and Information Sciences. Code 930.5, Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, MD. 20771 301-286-0882 http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/people/becker/whoiam.html ------------------------------ From: djt1@namaste.cc.columbia.edu (David J Topper) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help Subject: Tar | Seyon Problems Date: 14 Oct 1994 06:07:23 GMT Tar Question: My version of tar gives me the following error when I try to extract from the following file: tar -x Cmix.manual.tar tar: can't open /dev/nftape : I/O error Granted, I did download the file with a DOS comm program and then copy it over to a Linx directory (having my DOS partition mounted to /dosc). Would that make a difference? Or is there something esle at work here. Seyon Question: So in order to rectify the above situaion, possibly, I tried to download the file again with seyon. Whenever I try to: sz Cmix.manual.tar I get a bunch of timeout errors. Even if I try to time things exactly (i.e., type the above command, then do a RECEIVE - Reg. Zmodem, then watch errors). In general, I've been having bad luck getting seyon to upload and download files. Any help to either of the above would be greatly appreciated. ------------------------------ From: csgr@cs.ru.ac.za (Geoff Rehmet) Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc Subject: Re: Nailed down to 386bsd or linux, now which one? Date: 13 Oct 1994 10:35:32 GMT Reply-To: csgr@cs.ru.ac.za =====BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE===== In <37ii2n$2i2@bigboote.WPI.EDU> joev@res.WPI.EDU (Joseph W. Vigneau) writes: >Well, FreeBSD is closer to Ultrix (which is BSD based) by definition :) >Linux, which is SYSV based, also has a lot of BSDisms with it... Be careful calling Linux SYSV based. Linux is not based on the SYSV source tree -- if it were, you would be paying a lot of money. I think Linux tries, rather, to take nice features from both BSD and SYSV, and provide a fairly POSIX-complient implementation (for what POSIX is worth). I would rather say that Linux is "Linux-based" rather than "SYSV-based" :-) Geoff. =====BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE===== Version: 2.6 iQBVAgUBLp0Nb8mtR07KMR7ZAQFvWwIAnU419LIJrPxDGeNSppjGe6vq+LKMH6sI p8pg3DdCSVv3u/v0PUH3vbGuloJ6ua9bpV5CxKsKaupnGLbPMJ6MoQ== =+zQy =====END PGP SIGNATURE===== -- Geoff Rehmet, Computer Science Department, Rhodes University, South Africa FreeBSD core team: csgr@freebsd.org | ____ _ o /\ csgr@cs.ru.ac.za, geoff@neptune.ru.ac.za |___ _-\_<, / /\/\ finger rehmet@cs.ru.ac.za for PGP public key | (*)/'(*) /\/ / \ \ ------------------------------ From: holmes@chimp.gorilla.nbn.com (Tim Holmes) Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: Emacs & LaTeX (Was: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 94 15:03:20 PDT abraham@iesd.auc.dk (Per Abrahamsen) writes: > One person is working a limited "wysiwig" mode. It will not be real > wysiswyg, but it will do some limited formating and hide all LaTeX > commands, i.e. much like WordPerfect for DOS. An early version was > posted to gnu.emacs.sources (I will not mail it) > In my opinion, this seems like the way to go. It would provide compatibility with current documents and allow those who prefer to have a WYSIWIG mode. There could be pull down menus and all of the rest of the word processor type conveniences. Codes could be invisibly inserted by the program. If I understand what this person is doing, it would be like a word processor which uses "/" commands for formatting. ------------------------------ From: teffta@erie.ge.com (Andrew R. Tefft) Subject: Re: Beautifying Linux/Xfree Reply-To: teffta@erie.ge.com Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 17:59:33 GMT In article <37556o$q75@sashimi.wwa.com>, blackbob@wwa.com (Terence S. Murphy) writes: >I don't like the idea of a menu to set the appearance of X because it >would be too limiting. What I think would be more helpful would be >something like a BeautifyX-HOWTO, or something similar. Well, Sun has the openwindows Properties tool, and hp vue has the Style manager. And yes, they are limiting. But on the other hand, they have the desired result: they give some amount of customization ability with little knowledge needed, and little opportunity to screw up, and with VUE, some *very* nice color schemes, which are hard to come up with for those of us who are not graphic designers, and they are obeyed by most software (including some you might not want to obey your color schemes). Anyway I like the idea of a HOWTO, but even better, I like the idea of a whole package, containing documentation, sample configuration files of various 'schemes' of things (.fvwmrc's, app-defaults files, whatever), and a tool to manipulate (choose/install) them. This package could be used by anyone, not made the default in any distribution, but available for the target audience to use, and shouldn't prevent anyone from using newly-gained knowledge to manually tweak the results. In fact I am frankly surprised that no distribution has one yet, after seeing slackware's current color install program. >One thing that would be neat would be a list of nice color combinations. >Sometimes I see these discussed and I often test them out and like >them enough to incorporate them enough into my configuration. And >whenever I add a new program to my configuration, I'm at a loss to >think of a new color combination. Yes, this is tough. I have seen a few available programs come with really nice defaults files giving nice color combinations: frisk (risk clone), xpat2-1.00, xv, xpaint (actually I don't know where this resource file came from but I like it), and Andrew stuff. tcl/tk applications are generally a consistent beige color, although I don't really like the default look of tknews. Then there is xmailtool, which is, well, green. I don't mind it but I know plenty of people who do. And lots of applications are just vanilla -- mumail, emacs, the old version of xsokoban, xcalc(ulator), to name a few I have encountered. Someone (I think it was in a Sunergy email newsletter) once posted a list of foreground/background combinations he liked for terminal windows. I adopted only one: DarkSlateBlue background, LemonChiffon1 foreground. I am not a big fan of black-on-white or white-on-black, but that is my default xterm window, and I use a few other color schemes for specific windows to identify them: black background with amber, green, turquoise, or royal blue; pastel-colored backgrounds (green, pink, blue, ivory) with black text, and some gray backgrounds with hot pink or primary colors for the foreground. It was tough, but I got my olvwm colors to match twm's (maroonish borders with silver-gray text). Just keep me away from cheesy white-on-"dos-blue" (default dos editor colors)! -- Andy Tefft - new, expanded .sig - teffta@erie.ge.com ------------------------------ From: silver.e@grin.io.org (Eric Silver) Subject: MINICOM Downloading Not Working Date: 12 Oct 1994 07:47:17 GMT I tried several times to make the rz and rx part of MINICOM work. I was trying to download a file from a UNIX BBS and the system seems to just sit there. I can perform this same function using DOS based PROCOMM PLUS. The order I do things in is; $sz filename [Enter] from the shell prompt at the BBS ctrl-a r z [Enter] filename typed in pop up box Then the system just seems to sit there and no file is actually transfered. I have checked the pathnames for valid entries. Would some please let me know the specific keystokes to make MINICOM downloading work properly. Thanks, Eric Silver ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help From: mlm@cs.brown.edu (Moises Lejter) Subject: Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be aware Reply-To: mlm@cs.brown.edu Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 03:35:17 GMT In article , jeffpk@netcom.com (Jeff Kesselman) writes: yxiao>3. Plug-and-Play, no-plug, no-play: waning CD-ROM can be a yxiao> challenge We didn't install everything (has anyone?), thus we yxiao> picked packages we wanted from control-panel. Guess what, we yxiao> still have pointers to CD-ROM, such as /usr/X386/lib/libX11*. Jeff> Did you follow the erratta and install usrbin first from the Jeff> command line before you used the X based installer? I've Jeff> instaleld all m ystuff from the commadn lien and so far Jeff> haven't found anything thatw asn't loaded ('course again, i Jeff> don't use X...) I installed Linux from the Yggdrasil Fall 94 CD on a Packard-Bell 486SX33, with 8MB. When prompted for a swap partition, I declined to specify one, since I planned to set one up later, "on top of" my windows swap file. I attempted to install some of the software from the CD-ROM to the disk, before setting up that swap partition - only to have the install process (a) run incredibly slowly, and (b) fail. Reason was that Linux was running out of memory... It might be nice to add a note to the doc that mentions that >8MB VM are needed during the install process - I am pretty sure it is not... Moises -- ============================================================================= Internet/CSnet: Moises_Lejter@brown.edu BITNET: mlm@browncs.BITNET UUCP: ...!uunet!cs.brown.edu!mlm Phone: (401)863-7671 USmail: Moises Lejter, Box 1910 Brown University, Providence RI 02912 ------------------------------ From: cjtwigt@cs.vu.nl (Twigt CJ) Subject: Linux, Adaptec1542C-SCSI-II Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 10:15:59 GMT Hi, I have an Adaptec 1542C-SCSI-II adapter for a SCSI-II HD, this works fine with OS/2 and DOS and stuff. It just doesn't with linux. I read the SCSI-HOWTO about the problems. It seems my adapter is very sensitive to cabling problems. I think this is very very weird, because my computer is a finitestate machine. But apart from that, the SCSI-HOWTO describes a method to MINIMIZE the problems of random errors, Is there anyway in which I can SOLVE the problem ? Chris. ------------------------------ From: tkay@crl.com (Anthony W. Kay) Subject: Re: DoomX where Date: 15 Oct 1994 07:37:28 -0700 Spire Technologies (spire@teleport.com) wrote: : Where in the world can I find doomX? sunsite.unc.edu I think it is in /pub/Linux/X11/games/action/doom (or maybe /pub/Linux/games/action/doom...I forget). -Tony ------------------------------ From: tkay@crl.com (Anthony W. Kay) Subject: Re: IDE or SCSI CD-ROM Date: 15 Oct 1994 07:40:00 -0700 Janusz Smolak (jsmolak@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU) wrote: : I'm considering buying a CD-ROM kit and I need some help with selection : a good package. Can I install Linux and OS/2 using IDE CD-ROM, or do I : have to use a SCSI? Can anyone suggest a brand name of a good CD-ROM : drive and sound card that will work well with those two systems. : I'd really appreciate any info.ct. Use ftp to pop over to sunsite.unc.edu or tsx-11.mit.edu and pick up the CD-ROM and SCSI HOWTO (in a directory something like /pub/Linux/doc/HOWTO). They will tell you everthing you need to know. -Tony ------------------------------ From: ltsun@newstand.syr.edu (Benny) Subject: ?????? how many space do I need ?????? Date: 12 Oct 1994 22:11:31 GMT Reply-To: ltsun@mailbox.syr.edu Hello, I have one 120mb IDE drive in notebook, and a 1.08gb external SCSI2 drive. Now I'm going to repartition/reformat both drives in order to install OS/2 and Linux OSs. I wish to place all OSs in drive C: 120mb drive and all data/applications in 1.08gb drive. So I will repartition C: into four primary partitions, ie, BootManager, DOS, OS/2, and Linux. My question is 'how many disk spaces do I need to reserve for Linux in drive C in order to boot Linux by using OS/2's boot manager?' (I don't want to make a bootable floppy disk.) (I want to use X-WIN or OpenWin.) (I use Linux 1994 cd-rom release 4.) Thank you very much.. Benny ltsun@mailbox.syr.edu ------------------------------ From: jwest@jwest.ecen.okstate.edu () Subject: Re: What is Linux good for? Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 14:57:23 GMT In article newcombe@aa.csc.peachnet.edu (Dan Newcombe) writes: >In article SA073@getty.onu.edu (Daniel Woodard) writes: > >>>FAQ??? They even don't check the name of the group on which they are >> That's an outright lie. I looked for a faq. Not finding one, I posted >>this message. > >Where did you look? > >There is one. There is quite a bit if you count the HOW-TO's etc... But it is not posted to this group, which is probably the most logical place for a newbie to look (based on names). I think this is a very good argument for support of Ian Jackson's proposal to post the FAQ in all Linux groups. jw > >-- >Dan Newcombe newcombe@aa.csc.peachnet.edu >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >"And the man in the mirror has sad eyes." -Marillion -- Jim West jwest@jwest.ecen.okstate.edu Associate Professor jwest@master.ceat.okstate.edu Electrical and Computer Engineering Oklahoma State University ------------------------------ From: bass@cais2.cais.com (Tim Bass (Network Systems Engineer)) Subject: [Q] Linux for PowerBooks Date: 15 Oct 1994 14:56:16 GMT Get this.... Just bought a new laptoy manufactured in a small island near China that starts with a "T". Dual Color Scan, 486/66, 20 MB ram, 250M removable hard drive, and 2 PCMCIA cards (Megahertz and some ethernet card). Here I am, about to lay back on the couch and write some really cool network utility to give to the linux community and the %#&! trackball breaks - THE FIRST NIGHT OUT OF THE BOX!. I've owned a PowerBook 100 since it was first released. We've been to Asia together, climbed mountains together, my finance' and I fight over who can use it. It has never, never had a H/W failure. (I've even dropped it a time or two). Can I help someone port linux to a robust HW laptop, like the PowerBook? I'm really mad at cheap 'Made Over There" hardware that can't even make it 'through the first night'!!!! ------------------------------ From: marko@hisplace.rhein-main.de (Marko Schuetz) Subject: Re: Problem with TERM Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 06:53:41 GMT mental@hydra.unm.edu (Kevin C. Dorff) writes: >and after pressing returns a few times I get the prompt, I can do >a little and then it just stops transmitting for no obvious reason. >I can see the send/receive lights flashing on the modem, so the >two sides are talking to each other, BUT it is dead. At this point, Had the same problem. My connection is through a terminal server. Escaping and ignoring the codes linecheck returned was not sufficient, I had to go to seven bit. Now it runs smoothly (termncftp reporting 1.24 K/s). Marko -- --- Marko Sch"utz / Koselstr. 7 / D 60318 Frankfurt / Germany marko@hisplace.rhein-main.de / Tel: +49 69 5971621 ------------------------------ From: jrhett@netcom.com (Joe Rhett) Subject: getty/uugetty problems in slackware (BUG REPORT) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 09:11:49 GMT A _LOT_ of people who get Slackware complain about not getting the getty_ps package to work correctly. I fought it round and round, until I got the source code, and found these things... First of all, debug mode can be enabled with -D 777 on the command line. This is _NOT_ documented in the man page, and it should be! If uugetty isn't reading the right file, it won't see DEBUG=777 in it's defaults file. therefore you have nothing to assist you in debugging. You need -D777 to find this out (see above!) ALL the documentation (getty man page, the howtos, etc) that come with Slackware tell you that the configuration files go in /etc/default. That is true, _IF_ compiled that way. It's _NOT_. It is compiled to look in /etc/conf.(device) I recompiled the code with no change. When I looked in tune.h, I found a line about the FSSTND - Filesystem Standard. When I removed the "ifndef FSSTND" and it's results, it properly compiles for using /etc/default. A - Distribute Slackware with proper documentation and/or B - Change tune.h, or change the documentation! -- ===== ===== Joe Rhett Navigist, Inc. Systems Engineer (408) 397-5803 * My opinions are my own, unless they are printed on company letterhead. * ------------------------------ From: ppearson@folio.com (Paul Pearson) Subject: How to setup Linux to be a WWW server? Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 17:25:46 Can Linux be used as a WWW server? I assume it can but unsure how. If you could point me in the direction of some information, that would be very helpful. I have looked through most of the HOWTO's but can't seem to find anything. Perhaps I overlooked it? --Paul Pearson ppearson@folio.com --Paul Pearson ppearson@folio.com "Please Wait... Brain booting from floppy." ------------------------------ From: acg@kzin.cen.ufl.edu (Alexandra Griffin) Subject: Which fonts to get for Mosaic? Date: 15 Oct 1994 19:50:45 GMT Could someone recommend a fast way to get and install the particular fonts that the pre-compiled Linux Mosaic binaries try to use (for each of the Times, New Century, etc. families)? When a "normal" or "large" sized font is selected from within that program, a smaller font seems to get scaled up to the requested size, resulting in horrible-quality type. "Small" fonts look fine. Could someone post either a pointer to the specific .pcf-format fonts I need to install (for X11R6, XFree-3.1), or what resources I should change to coerce Mosaic into using more standard font sizes? Thanks a lot, -- alex ------------------------------ From: acg@kzin.cen.ufl.edu (Alexandra Griffin) Subject: Re: siscad Date: 15 Oct 1994 19:58:22 GMT In article <37lse4$ir1@svin09.win.tue.nl>, Student van Paul de Bra wrote: >I've been looking for the siscad package at sunsite and at ftp.Germany.EU.net >and I can't find it there ! >Where is it FTP to ic.eecs.berkeley.edu:/pub/Sis; be sure to grab the "sis-temp" file as well as the main source archive, since it contains needed patches for Linux. -- alex ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Misc-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.misc) via: Internet: Linux-Misc@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux End of Linux-Misc Digest ******************************