From: Digestifier To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Wed, 15 Sep 93 18:13:20 EDT Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #232 Linux-Activists Digest #232, Volume #6 Wed, 15 Sep 93 18:13:20 EDT Contents: Re: Removing Linux (Chan Lap Wah Samson) [Q] Errors while compiling NFSD, HELP! (Sohail M. Parekh) Quick Question... (Thomas J Bilan) Re: weird fdisk on slackware bootdisk (A. V. Le Blanc) 2 button mouse (how to get third button) (Julie D Cassaidy-1) Re: (was: Re: A Word Processor for Linux) (cairnss@ucsu) Mouse intermittent in X386 (Stephen J Daly - H600/91) Re: Mathmatica like package for linux? (Peter Mutsaers) Re: Using ms-dos compression and linux (David C. Niemi) Re: Port respawning too fast (Simon J Ferrett) Re: running windows pgms under Linux (Mark Galaszkiewicz) Support for TrantoSCSI Controller (Paul To) Re: FTAPE 0.9.5 problem Please help (MCREYNPA) Re: BBS package (Serussi Asher) Re: BBS package (Serussi Asher) Re: Mathmatica like package for linux? (David Simmons) Re: Linux and MS Windows 3.1 (yuck) swap space. (Kristian Ejvind) Re: FTAPE 0.9.5 problem Please help (Andy Beck) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: h9090166@hkuxb.hku.hk (Chan Lap Wah Samson) Subject: Re: Removing Linux Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 17:39:10 GMT ganderson@clark.net (Gary Anderson) writes: : : Dear Whoever, : : I'm am tring to remove linux off my system. I formated my drive, and : : used FDISK to remove the partition. And even after all that, when I boot my : : machine it still says, "Uncompressing Linux" Does anyone know why? Does : : anyone know how to completely remove linux off my system? If so PLEASE send : : e-mail back to me,.. since my school is to cheep to get usenet. Anyway : : Thank You, : : : Brian : : Brian, if you're trying to go back to dos, try the following: : 1.) Boot up from a DOS system diskette. : 2.) Do a 'format c: /MBR' to put a new master boot record in the boot sector. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ That's suppose to be FDISK /MBR, for MessyDOS 5.0 or up only. Sams ------------------------------ From: sohail@trixie (Sohail M. Parekh) Subject: [Q] Errors while compiling NFSD, HELP! Reply-To: sohail@rhonda.jsc.nasa.gov Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 14:55:03 GMT I am trying to compile NFSD from nfsd-150.tar.z on .99p10 with gcc version 2.4.3. I already have the NET-2 binaries so I have NFS up and running but I am trying to build NFSD from source code so I have a better understanding of it and I am getting the following errors a) nfs_prot_xdr.c:615: warning: enumeration value `NFSERR_WFLUSH' not handled in switch (AND MANY MORE OF SIMILAR ERRORS!) b) auth_clnt.c:173: `IPPORT_RESERVED' undeclared (first use this function) For b) I looked every header file on the system for IPPORT_RESERVED, but I can't find it anywhere! Any help would be much appreciated. Sincerely, Sohail -- Sohail M. Parekh Grumman Data Systems sohail@rhonda.jsc.nasa.gov 12000 Aerospace Ave. (713) 483-5912 Houston, TX 77034 ------------------------------ From: bilan@cps.msu.edu (Thomas J Bilan) Subject: Quick Question... Date: 15 Sep 1993 16:25:25 GMT If I want to replace my kernel and I have another zImage do I have to replace the /zImage file or/and do I have to rerun lilo's install etc..? Thanks, Tom -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ $ Department of Death by Engineering ^ Surgeon General's Warning: $ $ Michigan State University ^ Graduate School may cause brain $ $ bilan@cps.msu.edu ^ damage and sporadic loss of hair $ ------------------------------ From: zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc) Subject: Re: weird fdisk on slackware bootdisk Reply-To: LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 16:02:53 GMT In article <1993Sep15.131236.2976@bmerh85.bnr.ca> mlord@bnr.ca (Mark Lord) writes: >My drive pretends to have 2034 cylinders, and fdisk 1.4 gives repeated >warnings about logical.ne.physical parameters for partitions above the >invisible 1024cyl "barrier". If I didn't know better (and I do), I'd panic >and wonder what to do to use a disk over 1024cyl. Perhaps we should get >the maintainer of fdisk1.4 to add a check to remove those warnings for linux >native partitions, possibly replacing them by a more sensible "note" about >bootable kernel images having to reside within the first 1024cyls. The problem is that there is no 'standard' way of handling partitions above the 1024 cylinder limit in the partition table. Thus any partition extending above this limit may possibly be a source of difficulty on a machine which adopts a solution different from that adopted in the Linux fdisk. Still, I may be able to change the message to be more helpful in the next revision. -- Owen LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk ------------------------------ From: cassa002@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Julie D Cassaidy-1) Subject: 2 button mouse (how to get third button) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 17:42:47 GMT My apologies if this is a faq, but I haven't been able to find it anywhere. I have a MS mouse (read two button) and want to know how to emulate the middle button. I have heard of using the two buttons together can do this if set up properly. I don't know how to do this. Any help will be appreciated. ------------------------------ From: cairnss@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (cairnss@ucsu) Subject: Re: (was: Re: A Word Processor for Linux) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1993 22:46:07 GMT jrp@widcat.Widener.EDU (Joshua R. Poulson) writes: >In article <26aulc$ier@news.bu.edu>, heiser@bumetb.bu.edu (Bill Heiser) writes: >|> In article weasel@mecom.oulu.fi (Kari T. Salmela) writes: >|> > By the way, I have noticed that old UNIX farts are absolutely >|> >most conservative persons I've ever met. Not even IBM :) mainframe >|> [...] >|> >It's kinda sad to see 25 year old people who are totally fixed to >|> >their old customs, unable and unwilling to learn & use anything which >|> >has been coded in the 80's or 90's.. >|> >|> 25-year old people are "old unix farts"???? >Yeah, really. Looks like I'm getting grief for liking "TeX" here too. :) This is a LINUX news group, take your discussion to comp.os.unix-observations. :):):):):) -- Proud owner of one of the first Hell Credit Cards. "Spend all you want. You'll pay later." ------------------------------ From: u1sjd@ohm.york.ac.uk (Stephen J Daly - H600/91) Subject: Mouse intermittent in X386 Date: Wed, 15 Sep 93 15:33:29 GMT Hi, I am having a teensy bit of trouble running X386 under Linux. I installed the latest SLS release yesterday and everthing works fine, I even managed to configure X-windows to give me 1024x730 non-interlaced from my rather cheap monitor which has never done anything like that before, well anyway back to the plot, I am having some trouble with my mouse. About 3 out of 4 times that I run X the mouse refuses to work properly, the pointer jumps all over the screen randomly as I move the mouse and it thinks I am pressing buttons when I am not, it basically looks as if it is getting the data from the mouse but making a mess of interpreting it. However i can generally cure the problem by switching to another virtual console ( by pressing e.g.) and then switching back to the console with X on. If i do this a few times, the mouse starts working, and stays working as long as I dont switch consoles again. I am using a Microsoft Two button serial mouse in COM1 and it has worked perfectly with everything in the past. The mouse test programs hidden in the X386 directory somewhere work fine, ( although they do tend to play up a bit if I already have X386 running in a different console when I run them)... Unplugging my mouse and plugging it back in doesn't do any good.....I have been fiddling with all the parameters in the Xconfig file that I can think of but nothing does any good., I get the feeling that something else is trying to talk to my serial port and screwing up the settings for the mouse driver, but I can't find anything remotely suspicious.... Has anyone seen anything like this before? All suggestions will be greatly recieved as this is beginning to get annoying. I wanted to try someone elses mouse but I won't be able to borrow one for a while and am completely stuck in the meantime. I would like to try COM2 instead of COM1 but that is 25 way instead of 9 way and I will have to try and scrounge an adaptor from someone which may take a while.....Anyway if anyone has any ideas mail me at sjd8@tower.york.ac.uk Oh...Just another thing...ghostscript complains about IO permissions from VGAlib and I can't figure out what it is having trouble writing to , this doesn't cause me too many problems as I just run Ghostscript as root which cures it , but it would be nice find out what the problem was... Anyway, apart from that everthing works fine, ( and a lot faster that DOS..) Byeeee Steve -- ****************************************************************************** * Stephen J Daly * Department of Electronic Engineering * * U1SJD@OHM.YORK.AC.UK * University of York. York YO1 5DD. England * ****************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc From: muts@compi.hobby.nl (Peter Mutsaers) Subject: Re: Mathmatica like package for linux? Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 23:42:47 GMT >> On Tue, 14 Sep 1993 14:55:43 GMT, jimr@world.std.com (James A Robinson) said: JAR> has anyone got calc-2.02 to work under emacs v19.19-A? I am JAR> having all sorts of problems with Info files and calc. I tried JAR> compiling the calc.el files after I had installed emacs19-19, Get calc-2.02a or b from prep.ai.mit.edu. It's patched to run with emacs 19. -- _______________________________________________________________ Peter Mutsaers, Bunnik (Ut), the Netherlands. ------------------------------ From: niemidc@oasis.gtefsd.com (David C. Niemi) Subject: Re: Using ms-dos compression and linux Date: 15 Sep 1993 18:37:15 GMT Reply-To: niemidc@oasis.gtefsd.com In article 28573@hellgate.utah.edu, jensen%peruvian.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (travis jensen) writes: >I have a question regarding compressing my dos partition >and using linux. Can it be done? Of course, I realize >that I would lose access to the dos files from linux, but >other than that, would it work? Sure, why not? I have been using a couple of compressed DR-DOS 6 partitions with Linux for months, and it is quite true that Linux can't read them (directly). I still recommend booting your Messy-Dos off of a small uncompressed partition, particularly if Double-Trouble is involved. You should be able to access your compressed partition from Linux via dosemu, but that won't come any where near the speed of Linux access to a normal DOS partition (which I have timed as being 2-3 times as fast as native DOS accesses!). --- David C. Niemi The U.S. Constitution may be flawed, but it's David.Niemi@oasis.gtegsc.com a whole lot better than what we have now. ------------------------------ From: c9108932@peach.newcastle.edu.au (Simon J Ferrett) Subject: Re: Port respawning too fast Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 18:33:24 GMT levinson@vax.sonoma.edu writes: >I have created an entry in my inittab for my com1 port on which I have another >terminal with a null modem cable. >I can log on, work, then log off, however on my consople I get the message: >Respawning too fast. Port disabled for 5 minutes >And then 5 minutes later it says the same thine. >Anyone know how I can fix this? I am using .99pl12. yes I had this exact problem, which is caused when the serial port is hung up by getty, it drops the DTR (which, since its a null modem), drops carrier) and gived getty a HUP causing it to quit. I got around this my slightly modifying serial.c so that it didnt ever hang up a serial port. (no hardware of mine needs it) the modifcation in serial.c is as follows: (about line 583) } if (clear_bit(RS_EVENT_HANGUP, &info->event)) { /* simonf Sun Aug 29 17:43:13 EST 1993 tty_hangup(info->tty);*/ wake_up_interruptible(&info->open_wait); info->flags &= ~(ASYNC_NORMAL_ACTIVE| ASYNC_CALLOUT_ACTIVE); } ie: comment out the tty_hangup call. hope this works as well for you as it did for me... -- c9108932@cs.newcastle.edu.au - Simon Ferrett Due to technical difficuties, we are unable to bring you your regularly scheduled .signature - normal transmission will resume as soon as possible... ------------------------------ From: galaszki@maccs.mcmaster.ca (Mark Galaszkiewicz) Subject: Re: running windows pgms under Linux Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 19:02:28 GMT At Softeach 93, The Sun booth was showing SunSoft's version of Wabi, a program running under Unix which supposedly will run Windows pgms as fast if not faster, then a similarily equipped 486 with MSDOS and Windows 3.1 It was a supposed project of a few Unix vendor's but Sun is the first one out to market it with it's version of Unix for PCs. Unfortunatly, I got no information whether Wabi will ever be sold as a separate package, although other Unix vendors will introduce it shortly. The only doc they gave me sez it is not software emulation, but replaces the calls to the Windows API to Unix's API and any system calls are passed through. ================================ Mark Galaszkiewicz galaszki@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca Signiture file? I don't need any STINKING signiture file. Byte me. ------------------------------ Subject: Support for TrantoSCSI Controller From: paul.to@canrem.com (Paul To) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 93 15:27:00 -0400 I am looking for an economical SCSI CD-ROM setup so that I can get started with Linux. Does Linux support the Trantor T-130 SCSI controller? If yes, does it support the controller right of the bat or do I have to recompile the kernel? Also, will the proprietary SCSI controller from NEC, SONY, etc. work? Thank you in advance for any help. Paul To ------------------------------ From: mcreynpa@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (MCREYNPA) Subject: Re: FTAPE 0.9.5 problem Please help Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 19:49:00 GMT In article , nils@hertha.exp-math.uni-essen.de (Nils Rennebarth) writes... >levinson@vax.sonoma.edu wrote: >: I have ftp'd the .99pl12 kernel source in its entirety and have gotten the >: ftape0.9.5. I patched the .99pl12 source and re-built the kernel. On bootup, >Get ftape-0.9.6 please. > >: What is the problem? Am I supposed to have an ftape device in my /dev >: directory? I have a Conner Archive 250MQT QIC80 tape drive hooked to my >: floppy. >Yes. (The documentation is a bit sparse. It's still pre-alpha software, >so you should maybe wait a little) > Does ftape work for QIC-40 drives? I've got a Mountain TD-4000 which, at present, is just gathering dust (and DOS files under DOS -- same thing). --- Phillip McReynolds MCREYNPA@CTRVAX.VANDERBILT.EDU ------------------------------ From: etoasse@etn.ericsson.se (Serussi Asher) Subject: Re: BBS package Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 11:06:06 GMT Testing atp/1st Asher Serussi --- þ 1st 1.11 þ "640k should be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates, 1981. -- Asher Serussi Tel : +47 370 51487 Ericsson Telecom AS E-mail : etoasse@etn.ericsson.se Tangen Alle 39 P.O.Box 44 Memo : eto.etoasse N-4817 His ------------------------------ From: etoasse@etn.ericsson.se (Serussi Asher) Subject: Re: BBS package Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 11:18:44 GMT Testing atp/1st Asher Serussi --- þ 1st 1.11 þ "640k should be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates, 1981. -- Asher Serussi Tel : +47 370 51487 Ericsson Telecom AS E-mail : etoasse@etn.ericsson.se Tangen Alle 39 P.O.Box 44 Memo : eto.etoasse N-4817 His ------------------------------ From: simmons@EE.MsState.Edu (David Simmons) Subject: Re: Mathmatica like package for linux? Date: 15 Sep 1993 21:16:53 GMT Reply-To: simmons@EE.MsState.Edu Does anybody know of a "simple", small program that can handle simplifying algebraic expressions and calculating derivatives and integrals, like MET or DERIVE? I really don't have much of a need for an extensive, programmable math system; i just need something to help me with calculus and engineering classes. Thanks, David Simmons ------------------------------ From: krej@electrum.kth.se (Kristian Ejvind) Subject: Re: Linux and MS Windows 3.1 (yuck) swap space. Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 22:20:16 GMT In article cbeauch@xenon (Chris Beauchamp) writes: > I am about to install SLS (latest version) on a Dell 486sx25, but I'm > only using half the hard disk,the other half being used for DOS and Windows. > > I have a 12Mb Linux swap partition - is this possible to be used as both a > Linux and a Windows swapfile? What does Linux do to this partition? Does it > put anything corruptable on it? OK, here we go again: 'windows-linux swap in common?'. Perhaps time for moving this into the FAQ (I assume it's not there already, havn't checked...)? A swap *file* cannot be shared inbetween, as dos can't access the linux file system and linux can't swap on the dos file system. However a linux swap partion can be made into a swap file for windows at the cost of a few seconds longer time to reboot. If you want to do things the same way as I have done then follow these steps: (remember to subtitute the sizes and partions to match your computer, else.... bad luck!) 1) Decide how much swap space you need and create a partion to swap on with fdisk (or any other disk partioning program). I chose to make it about 6M or to be exact 5967 blocks large and on /dev/hda4. Make the partion a DOS partion. Mine is a primary 12-bit-fat (id 1) partion. 2) Erase the partion completely so that it will compress to the smallest possible size. This can be done with : dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda4 while running linux. If you want you can use norton's wipeinfo to 'Wipe the entire drive' but this must be done after step 3). Neither 'format f:' or 'del f:*.*' will erase the data on the disk, they just delete the information in the directory block(s) and wont work. 3) (Re)Boot dos. The swap partion will show up as a new 'disk letter' in dos, which dos wont be able to read (dos says something like 'Invalid media error on drive F'). My swap partion shows up as F:. Format the new drive: c:\>format f: 4) Start windows (if you are running windows 3.0 you must start it in real mode: c:\>win /r) and create a permanent swap file as large as the new partion. Ignore the warning that windows won't use more than the recommended size, it will. In windows 3.0 this is done by closing ALL active applications excluding the program manager, selecting File/Run and run 'system/swapfile'. In windows 3.1 it's in the control panel under '386 Enh' and 'virtual memory'. 5) Reboot your computer into linux immediately after creating the swapfile. DO NOT start windows. 6) Save and compress the swap partion to a file: dd if=/dev/hda4 | gzip -9 > /.winswap Since you erased the whole partion the compressed file will become very small; from my computer: 23:27-oden:/>ls -l .winswap -r-------- 1 root root 9431 Apr 10 20:23 .winswap 7) Place the following commands in your /etc/rc: /bin/mkswap /dev/hda4 5967 /bin/swapon -a and a line in /etc/fstab describing your swap partion: /dev/hda4 none swap defaults 8) These commands will destroy the dos partion and the windows swap file and must be restored before windows can be used. I do this when I reboot linux automatically with this script which I have named /etc/reboot and with a link to it from /etc/halt: ----/etc/reboot-----snip-----8<-------- #!/bin/sh - if [ "root" != "`whoami`" ] then echo "Sorry "`whoami`. You must be root to reboot!. Exiting. exit 1 fi echo `basename $0` in progress. Please standby swapoff /dev/hda4 /usr/local/bin/gunzip < /.winswap > /dev/hda4 exec /etc/.hidden/`basename $0` $* ----end /etc/reboot-----snip-----8<---- and I have moved the original /etc/reboot and /etc/halt to /etc/.hidden/reboot and /etc/.hidden/halt 9) Enjoy. 10) Realize that 6M swap isn't enough. Sigh :-( I have seen some peolpe suggesting that it is possible to just save the beginning of the partion (just enough to hold the boot block, the fat and the root directory), and others saying that you must save the whole partion but I havn't bothered to investigate this matter, the solution above works just perfect. /Kristian p.s. I hope I havn't mistyped anything but anyway: Be careful when dealing with the disk partions as you will blame yourself to death when you have erased your whole dos partion with your five years worth of work on just because you typed /dev/hda4 instead of /dev/hda3 ;-) -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Kristian Ejvind - krej@it.kth.se I The best way of accelerating The Royal Institute of Technology, KTH I a macintosh is by 9.82 m/(s*s) Stockholm, Sweden I -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Sep 93 02:19:00 +0200 From: Andy_Beck@deds-home.fido.de (Andy Beck) Subject: Re: FTAPE 0.9.5 problem Please help Hi there ! NR> levinson@vax.sonoma.edu wrote: NR> : I have ftp'd the .99pl12 kernel source in its entirety and have NR> gotten the : ftape0.9.5. I patched the .99pl12 source and re-built the NR> kernel. On bootup, Get ftape-0.9.6 please. Not really necessary - you'll just need to do the patching by hand,if you have the kernel version with built-in KLMs.Otherwise this seems to be done twice in a that strange manner,that it will cause a Kernel Panic. Some minor patching of kernel-interface.c is also needed - but that's no big deal. NR> : What is the problem? Am I supposed to have an ftape device in my NR> /dev : directory? I have a Conner Archive 250MQT QIC80 tape drive NR> hooked to my : floppy. Yes,you are supposed to have the char-device /dev/ftape. It should have major 27 and minor ?? (bit 2 means rewind on close - 0 and 1 don't seem to be used now) . CU,Andy Available on Internet as Andy_Beck@deds-home.fido.de :-) ... Documentation - The worst part of programming. ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Activists-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux) via: Internet: Linux-Activists@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux tupac-amaru.informatik.rwth-aachen.de pub/msdos/replace The current version of Linux is 0.99pl9 released on April 23, 1993 End of Linux-Activists Digest ******************************