From: Digestifier To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Sun, 19 Sep 93 16:13:07 EDT Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #242 Linux-Activists Digest #242, Volume #6 Sun, 19 Sep 93 16:13:07 EDT Contents: Re: "Memory exhausted" problem in X solved (Marius Hancu) Re: MOTIF FOR LINUX (Kenneth Maier) Re: SLS wont mount /proc (Ben Frank) Re: [ANNOUNCE] Slackware Linux 1.0.3 (Linux 0.99pl13) background (Peter P Chiu) software list for linux? (KWT Wong) xterm problem when telnetting to a sun (Thomas J Bilan) Re: Tape Drive Assistance, Please! ($ Burkhard Kohl) Linux for Atari's (Brian Willan) Re: [Q] on Diamond Graphics card and [Q] on Tape drive (Warrior Of Darkness) Linux won't let me change password for new user (Teddy Winstead) Is there a way to switch Com IRQ's? (Dhaliwal Bikram Singh) SLS is working, sorta ... (Sol Lightman) IRQ 4, BUS Mouse probles...HELP??! (Kwasi Mireku) Re: Trouble in DOS floppy drive (Warrior Of Darkness) Re: Startx disables alias' (Warrior Of Darkness) Re: how many Linux installs? (Andreas Helke) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hancu@crim.ca (Marius Hancu) Subject: Re: "Memory exhausted" problem in X solved Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 13:26:07 GMT gonyo@oswald.cs.odu.edu (John "Mr_Muppet" Gonyo) writes: >I just recently installed Linux and am enjoying it's use very >much! >However, I'm having a hell of a time with getting X to run like >I want it to. >And for the swapping problem: >I've got a 486-66 w/ 16mb RAM and a 5mb SWAP partition. I had a background >script logging the /proc/meminfo every 5 seconds while I ran X and >loaded it up with those goofy games and whatnot. Eventually, no more windows >could be opened, and upon returning to the shell, I noticed that >ram used was near 16mb, while swap used was 0!! It says that there is >5megs of swap, 0 used, 5megs free! Why doesn't it use the swap device? >(Yes, it's mounted from fstab) Hi: I had myself problems with opening more than 2 X windows and 1 emacs window on a 99pl12 linux (SLS 1.03), while having 8M RAM and having declared at partitioning time: mkswap -c /dev/hda2 16500 #16M of swap device swapon /dev/hda2 The problem was only solved after I read an article by Kristian Ejvind on this same moribond comp.os.linux (I did not find anything relevant on the new comp.os.linux.help!!). Following his advice on a related query, I inserted the following lines in my /etc/rc file: mkswap -c /dev/hda2 16500 swapon -a and /dev/hda2 none swap defauts in the /etc/fstab file. Now I can open more emacs and X windows and I am not getting the complaint heard before: "Memory exhausted" at the first command in emacs, like M-x rmail. Would someone comment on why I had to insert these lines in those files? I would have expected to get by just by the commands at partitioning time. Don't they have a lasting effect? If they don't, this should be mentioned in the FAQs (I had all of them in front of me, including the very good Linux Installation by Matt Welsh). By the way fellows, it seems that any fear that not enough pty's are generated, that I had, seems to be unfounded. In another post, someone else mentioned that (naturally!) linux automatically generates as many pty's as it needs. This as I tried in vain to use mknod to generate more pty's for my xterms and emacses. Thanks to Kristian. Marius -- Marius Hancu, Parallel Architectures Group Centre de Recherche Informatique de Montreal (CRIM) 1801, avenue McGill College, Bureau 800, Montreal, Quebec H3A 2N4, Canada phone: (514) 398-5561, fax: 514-398-1244, email: hancu@crim.ca ------------------------------ From: ken@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Kenneth Maier) Subject: Re: MOTIF FOR LINUX Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 16:46:58 GMT In article <27bu68$sgd@sgi.iunet.it> calamaro@dist.dist.unige.it (Surlinelli R. Cardino G. Maranzano L.) writes: >Hi World!! > >I have heard of the availability of MOTIF for linux... >Someone knows where I can get it ???? > > >Thanks and bye! >P.S.: reply to calamaro@dist.dist.unige.it Metro Link Inc. sells a complete Motif development package for Linux for $199 (including a free O'Reilly book). Send mail to: sales@metrolink.com for more info. -ken ==================================================================== Kenneth Maier (ken@cse.fau.edu) "If you can't dazzle FAU Computer Science them with brilliance, baffle 'em with bull!" ==================================================================== ------------------------------ From: ccaabpf@ucl.ac.uk (Ben Frank) Subject: Re: SLS wont mount /proc Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 16:42:43 GMT In article <748188023.AA07652@psybbs.durham.nc.us> Derek.Bischoff%f1.n3641.z1@psybbs.durham.nc.us (Derek Bischoff) writes: > > LR> my fstab : > LR> /dev/sda1 ext2 defaults > LR> /proc /proc proc defaults > > LR> *** The sda1 entry looks suspect but, I dont know enough about linux > LR> to know what it should look like. Also after install the /proc > LR> entry was not there...I had to enter it in. > >May not be an issue, (since I don't quite understand /proc) >however my fstab is: > >/dev/sda1 / ext2 defaults >none /proc proc defaults > >maybe it is because you are looking for device /proc while >mine is stated that there is no device, and just use the directory. >oh, and I am glad to see someone else use the ext2 filesystem >(and not the Linux extfs) >I like the results, and it hasn't crashed yet! > > >... Sincerely, Derek Hi, I think this should be put in the faq ( if it isn't already :) mount at boot time will not work properly if you're root partition is not properly described in the fstab, it doesn't matter if all the other devices are described properly, if root isn't descrided properly mount won't work. If you manually install SLS it makes a wrong entry in the fstab, trying to mount it on /root rather than /, also you have to have one and only one white space chacter between fields, it is easy not to notice a space and a tab. The root device should be described thus: DeviceMountPointFilessytemTypedefaults I think that all right :) Ben Frank. ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc From: ee_hflo@uxmail.ust.hk (Linux 0.99pl13) Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Slackware Linux 1.0.3 Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 09:37:19 GMT Chan Lap Wah Samson (h9090166@hkuxb.hku.hk) wrote: : bf703@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Patrick J. Volkerding) writes: : : : : Version 1.0.3 of the Slackware Linux distribution may be found on : : ftp.cdrom.com in directory /pub/linux/slackware, or : : /pub/linux/zooed_slackware. : : : ARGH!!!!! : I'm in the middle of getting 1.0.2... : Is there major differences or can I ftp the diff portion of it? : Thanks. : Sams Please read the file README.ChangeLog. I remember that Only disk A4 and the Bootdisk was changed. ============================================================================ | Lo Ho Fung Michael | == Internet e-mail address == | | Department of | University : ee_hflo@stu.ust.hk | | Electrical & Electronic Engineering | Radio Call Sign : VR2YJR | | The Hong Kong University | Stand by at | | of Science & Technology | VS6KP repeater : 145.650 MHz (-) | | Major : Computer Engineering | VS6HKA repeater : 145.750 MHz (-) | ============================================================================ ------------------------------ From: ppc2@cec2.wustl.edu (Peter P Chiu) Subject: background Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 17:53:17 GMT i want to put MS WINDOWS wallpaper in BMP format as X background. i tried xv but don't know what the option for that is. can xv do the job or i need some other programs? please let me know by email: ppc2@cec2.wustl.edu thanks -- .&______~*@*~______&. m Peter Chiu "w/%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%\w" mmm*** Washington University, St. Louis `Y""Y""Y"""""Y""Y""Y' mm***** ppc2@cec2.wustl.edu p-p_|__|__|_____|__|__|_q-q mm**Y** 275 Union Blvd, #711, St. Louis, _-[EEEEM==M==MM===MM==M==MEEEE]-_.|..|.... Missouri 63108 (314) 367-3599 ------------------------------ From: els413c@fawlty3.eng.monash.edu.au (KWT Wong) Subject: software list for linux? Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 17:33:02 GMT Hi , I am new with linux. I was just wondering if there exists a list of all the free good software around the place. If there is such a list please point me to the right direction. If such a list does not exist I volunteer to compile such a list. Just send me the name of the program source and the ftp site with a short description of the program. E-mail me. Kevin Wong els413c@fawltyds.eng.monash.edu.au ------------------------------ From: bilan@cps.msu.edu (Thomas J Bilan) Subject: xterm problem when telnetting to a sun Date: 19 Sep 1993 18:13:51 GMT I'm having problems when I telnet to a sun/sparc workstation at school and my term environment variable is set to xterm. I am running x in linux over a slip connection. If I login to my machine and then telnet over to the sun, it sets the variable to vt100 which works great but I only get 25(24?) lines. In my openwin-menu-s file I have the following line: "Sun host" exec /usr/bin/X11/color_xterm -sb -sl 500 -j -ls -fn (continued..) (from previous line) lucidasanstypewriter-14 -T "Sun" And when doing this the sun thinks I'm using an xterm (good) but it doesn't know how many lines my current window is set at and *always* tries to squeeze more lines than possible in the window and it scrolls past the top. HELP!!! :) Tom Bilan -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ $ Department of Death by Engineering ^ Surgeon General's Warning: $ $ Michigan State University ^ Graduate School may cause brain $ $ bilan@cps.msu.edu ^ damage and sporadic loss of hair $ ------------------------------ From: buk@taz.de ($ Burkhard Kohl) Subject: Re: Tape Drive Assistance, Please! Date: 19 Sep 1993 17:55:04 GMT Lawrence Gray (lag@casbah.acns.nwu.edu) wrote: ... : How can I write a script so that tar backs up my laptop's entire 200 mb hard : drive onto the two tapes. Read the tar-manpage and try the +multi-volume switch. If the tar command on the SGI can't handle files split across two volumes, get gnu's tar and compile it on the SGI. -- _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ Burkhard Kohl _/ _/ _/ _/ buk@taz.de _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ die tageszeitung _/ _/ _/ _/ Germany _/ _/ _/ _/ 1000 Berlin 61 Phone: +30-259-02-120 _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ Kochstr. 18 FAX : +30-251-06-94 ------------------------------ From: bwillan4@mach1.wlu.ca (Brian Willan) Subject: Linux for Atari's Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 17:42:32 GMT The subject basically says it all. I am wondering if there is going to be a port of Linux to the Atari ST. In other words the 68000 processor. I have heard rumours about this, so I figured I would as for confirmation first. Cheers ============================================================================= ****** ** ** ** ** ** * ** ****** r i a n ** *** ** i l l a n ** ** **** **** ****** ** ** Wilfrid Laurier University Internet: bwillan4@mach1.wlu.ca ============================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 20:40:55 CDT From: Warrior Of Darkness Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help Subject: Re: [Q] on Diamond Graphics card and [Q] on Tape drive Hi| DONT BY A DIAMOND CARD *arghl* it is really lame; I still couldnt get my Stealth VRAM work; the Stealth 24 might or might not work; good cards for Linux are, I think, ATI graphics ultra, 8514/A cards and the S3 card from Orchid; DrAkHaI ferdlwildsau.idv.uni-linz.ac.at k2002e1alijku11.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at ------------------------------ From: winstead@cs.tulane.edu (Teddy Winstead) Subject: Linux won't let me change password for new user Date: 19 Sep 1993 19:21:17 GMT I used the latest SLS distribution of Linux from sunsite.unc.edu, and when I added a user with useradd, things went smoothly until I tried to log in. The passwd field is totally blank in the passwd file, as is the entry in the shadow file. When I log on, I type the user name, and Linux informs me that my password has expires, and that I should select a new one. It then promptly tells me (without letting me type anything in) that the password cannot be changed. I have triple checked my permissions on all pertinent files, and can't figure out what in the hell is wrong. Anybody got any ideas? Also, it seems that my whole filesystem is mounted on / AND /root. What gives? Thanks in advance, Linux saved my soul! ted ------------------------------ From: a228dhal@cdf.toronto.edu (Dhaliwal Bikram Singh) Subject: Is there a way to switch Com IRQ's? Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 18:52:09 GMT I was wondering if there exists a program to switch the IRQ number of /dev/modem (or /dev/ttys2) to IRQ 5 instead of IRQ 3 (which is controlling my top secret death ray). I know you can do it in the kernal if a #define or something, but I am runing a very small linux system at the moment and don't have the Gnu C compiler working (as well I don't have the swap space). Any help appreciated. -- ======================== a228dhal@cdf.toronto.edu Bikram Dhaliwal (416) 845-4567 ------------------------------ From: verdant@twain.ucs.umass.edu (Sol Lightman) Subject: SLS is working, sorta ... Date: 19 Sep 1993 19:18:13 GMT Reply-To: verdant@twain.ucs.umass.edu I managed to get SLS installed on a 386 with 4 MEG ram, on a 52KBlock HD partition with a 3KBlock swap space (sizes via fdisk.) I encountered numerous problems during installation -- I had to boot a1.3 seven times. It eventually made it all the way through the installation procedure (An,Bn,Cn,Dn,X1) without crashing. It would not set up a swap space from the menu due to bad (I think) batch files -- I did this on my own from the prompt. I keep on getting the following message: Unexpected HD Interrupt It pops up sporadically just about everywhere. This may be a hardware problem, because I had to install Wordperfect 6.0 3 times on the other partition before it finally took, due to ``Serious disk error''s which occurred, also sporadically, throughout installation. Anyway, a1.3 usually crashed due to a `kernel panic' where the kernel ended up in `swapper mode' and a frozen machine. The swap batch files returned the proper usage line for swap as though it had been invoked with no parameters. Also, they returned the following error message, which popped up a lot (I may not have this exactly right): extended memory exceeded in `new'. I had none of these problems earlier when installing SLS from 5.25" floppy on a 486 with 3.7Meg RAM and a 90Meg Linux partition, no swap partition. Any comments? Help or information would be greatly appreciated. Brian -- The University of Massachusetts at Amherst | _________,^-. 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The only thing different is that the mouse is now installed at IRQ 4. What is my problem??? ================================================================================= * Name: Kwasi Mireku | Once you have flown, you will walk the * * E-mail: kmireku@ic.sunysb.edu | earth with your eyes turned skyward, for * * kmireku@ccmail.sunysb.edu | there you have been, and there you long * * 72627,1643 (Compuserve) | to return to." * * GPCM38A (Prodigy) | * * | - Leonardo da Vinci * ================================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 21:23:34 CDT From: Warrior Of Darkness Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help Subject: Re: Trouble in DOS floppy drive Hi, are your DOS disks formatted plain MS-DOS or some different format like that 1.72 format avail with the VGA-COPY program? I think the mitsumi init failed refers to some CDROM, not sure. DrAkHaI ferdlwildsau.idv.uni-linz.ac.at ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 21:44:57 CDT From: Warrior Of Darkness Subject: Re: Startx disables alias' Hi, I guess the bash started under X only reads the file $HOME/.bashrc or so; if your aliases are defined in /etc/profile, they dont run. Flame me if this is not true. Flames are directed to /dev/null 8) DrAkHaI ferdlwildsau.idv.uni-linz.ac.at ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc From: andreas@fly.mgen.uni-heidelberg.de (Andreas Helke) Subject: Re: how many Linux installs? Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 19:58:10 GMT In article <1993Sep16.083313.13552@truffula.sj.ca.us> cls@truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) writes: >I work for a hardware and systems company. We have an >Interoperability Lab where they install our products on >the OSes our customers run, test our drivers, run >benchmarks, etc. >I want the Lab to install Linux and check it out. But >I can't make a business case for doing it without knowing >how big the Linux market is. (All of Unix is only about >5% of our market.) How many people run Linux, >on how many machines? If you think you know or have a way to >measure, I'd like to hear from you. Thanks. >Cameron in San Jose, the forever newbie In the editorial of the german unix magazine iX 9.93 there are some results of a readership survey wich shed some light on this issue. Of the iX readers 6% use linux at work. The most used commercial (not specified which this is) unix is 33%. At home 60% use DOS, 56% Windows and 29% linux. It seems that linux is on the way to become the most widely installed unix variant, due to the high proportion of home installs. A Novell add in the same magazine claims that there are 4 million computers running unix. If linux is equally widespread in USA as it is in germany, there must be a considerable number of linux systems. Andreas - Andreas Helke, Molekulare Genetik, Universitaet Heidelberg, Germany email un69ef@genius.embnet.dkfz-heidelberg.de andreas@fly.mgen.uni-heidelberg.de andreas@fly is somewhat unreliable, it's on a Linux computer wich has its main duty as DOS/Windows computer and accepts mail only in its Unix incarnation. ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Activists-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux) via: Internet: Linux-Activists@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux tupac-amaru.informatik.rwth-aachen.de pub/msdos/replace The current version of Linux is 0.99pl9 released on April 23, 1993 End of Linux-Activists Digest ******************************