From: Digestifier To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Tue, 5 Oct 93 12:13:10 EDT Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #287 Linux-Activists Digest #287, Volume #6 Tue, 5 Oct 93 12:13:10 EDT Contents: Linux <-> Adaptec Gigabyte-Option (zam036@zam112.zam.kfa-juelich.de) FYI.. benchmarks on linux and 386bsd (Jeff Stern) Re: FYI.. benchmarks on linux and 386bsd (Jeff Stern) Re: Help with Linux Dual Boot system (Mark Chace) Re: help ! dvips failed (Steef S.G. de Bruijn) Re: FYI.. benchmarks on linux and 386bsd (John F Carr) any S.New Hampshire users? (Dan Latham) Re: Office Package (Island Dr (Brandon S. Allbery) lilo booting dos? (un025122@wvnvms.wvnet.edu) Re: Linux Backup? (Koen Holtman) Re: FidoNet software (David Kraus) *Whew!* Installed, but quota question. (Bob Fulkerson) Printer daemon (Bolski) PC UNIX SIG Meeting (Daniel P. Kionka) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zam036@zam112.zam.kfa-juelich.de Subject: Linux <-> Adaptec Gigabyte-Option Date: 5 Oct 93 07:22:17 GMT Reply-To: a.arnold@kfa-juelich.de yesterday I posted my problems with Linux and the gigabyte option of the Adaptec 1542C. Thank you for all the mails I received so far. Their summary is however that I should turn off the option to work with Linux. But by doing so, I am forced to use the standard and slow INT13 driver with OS/2, because the OS/2 Adaptec driver crashes without the gigabyte option (I do not know wether this works better with 2.1, I haven't received it from IBM so far). But I haven't given up hope completely. Yesterday evening, I took a look into the driver source and found this (it is from the 1740 driver, but it is essentially the same) : int aha1740_biosparam(int size, int dev, int* ip) { DEB(printk("aha1740_biosparam\n")); ip[0] = 64; ip[1] = 32; ip[2] = size >> 11; /* if (ip[2] >= 1024) ip[2] = 1024; */ return 0; } The translation parameters are hard-coded into the driver!!! So my question to the linux hackers around the world is: Would it help to change the source to something like this: int aha1740_biosparam(int size, int dev, int* ip) { DEB(printk("aha1740_biosparam\n")); ip[0] = 64; #ifdef GIGA ip[1] = 255; #else ip[1] = 32; #endif ip[2] = size / (ip[0]*ip[1]); /* if (ip[2] >= 1024) ip[2] = 1024; */ return 0; } and compile the kernel with the GIGA flag set ? I will try this at weekend and report my success next week. Any comments and replies in the meantime are also appreciated. Alfred Arnold a.arnold@kfa-juelich.de ------------------------------ From: jstern@aris.ss.uci.edu (Jeff Stern) Subject: FYI.. benchmarks on linux and 386bsd Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc Date: 5 Oct 93 08:04:29 GMT I recently switched from 386bsd to linux, and happened to find some benchmarks I had archived from when the same machine was running 386bsd, and thought I'd run them again under linux. i'm not going to state which system i like better, because frankly i like them both, and also both have their loveable quirks, too :) anyway, since there seemed to be *SO* much 'authoritative information' going around about both systems (usually from people who have tried one but not the other) i thought I'd offer up the output in the effort to produce some actual 'data' to consider. These are two different dhrystone benchmarks, and a dhampstone benchmark which I compiled both under gcc (without optimization) on each system. To be fair, I can't remember which gcc I was running on the 386bsd system, the one on linux is 2.4.5. The version of bsd I had was 0.1, of course, with a few patches. Linux here is SLS 0.99.12/1.03. My box is a 386-33 Micronics with 8MB ram and 64K cache, no wait states, and a co-processor (for what it's worth). Also, for what it's worth, each compile had different problems which I pragmatically hacked, having to do with conflicts with the libraries on previous declarations. i can explain each of these if anyone wanted to get into it.. anyway, here they are. Roughly, the linux system seemed to produce about 3-4,000 dhrystones more than the 386bsd system. i would be interested in theories on why this might be the case, and also to know if someone has done a more careful port and measurement than i, and also if disk speed or tcp/ip access can be measured, either. AS 386BSD: ========== OUTPUT OF DHRY: Microseconds for one run through Dhrystone: 115.0 Dhrystones per Second: 8695.7 OUTPUT OF DHAMP: Start... cresult = 9000 iresult = 32041 uresult = 46368 lresult = 81000000 square = 0 dresult = 9000.000000 dmath = 9000.000000 copy = 1000 ...End OUTPUT OF DHRYSTON: Dhrystone time for 50000 passes = 4 This machine benchmarks at 10714 dhrystones/second ========== AS LINUX: ========= OUTPUT OF DHRY: Microseconds for one run through Dhrystone: 191.7 Dhrystones per Second: 5217.4 OUTPUT OF DHAMP: Start... cresult = 9000 iresult = 32041 uresult = 46368 lresult = 81000000 square = 0 dresult = 9000.000000 dmath = 9000.000000 copy = 1000 ...End OUTPUT OF DHRYSTON: Dhrystone time for 50000 passes = 8 This machine benchmarks at 5917 dhrystones/second ========= ------------------------------ From: jstern@aris.ss.uci.edu (Jeff Stern) Subject: Re: FYI.. benchmarks on linux and 386bsd Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc Date: 5 Oct 93 08:11:27 GMT Sorry, typo in last post.. linux produced 3-4,000 dhrystones/second LESS than bsd. apologies.. -j ------------------------------ From: markcha@microsoft.com (Mark Chace) Subject: Re: Help with Linux Dual Boot system Date: 05 Oct 93 01:28:55 GMT In article <28dq63$kee@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> STBH%MARIST.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu writes: >I have installed linux in the past and was never able to get >it to boot up with another OS. I am once again trying to install >Linux and would like to try to get it to boot up with Dos. >If anyone has any Tech Notes on making Linux Dual Boot >can you please send them over. Also, any tips or helpfull hints If you have not already read it, you may want to get the documentation for LILO. It goes into a lot of the detail on how to set up different partitioning/boot schemes. The scheme that I use, which is flexable and quite safe is as follows: 1) Select a drive that will be the boot drive 2) Have at least two partions, one for the linux root and one for the other operating system. 3) Leave the standard MBR on the hard disk. 4) Make the partition for the other operating system (DOS) the active partition. 5) Install DOS in its partition. : Note this will be the condition you are in if you just create a second : partition and reinstall DOS where it use to be. 6) Verify DOS works as desired. 7) Make the Linux boot partition the active partition. 8) Install Linux. 9) Configure LILO to boot either Linux from its partion or Dos from its partition. 10) If any problems occur, you can always switch the active partition back to the Dos partition and use Dos like normal. Notes: 1) Use fdisk (either from Dos or Linux) to change the active partition. 2) Make sure to back up everything, even if you know you are not going to be affecting it. One mistake with fdisk and *crunch*. If you can not figure out what I am talking about, feel free to send mail. Mark --- The above does not represent opinions or agreement from my employer. ------------------------------ From: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl (Steef S.G. de Bruijn) Subject: Re: help ! dvips failed Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 09:56:37 GMT Gwan-Hwan Hwang (ghhwang@pllab1) wrote: : Dear friends, : I install SLS1.03 including latex of it. But the dvips seems not work. : See the following: : The MakeTeXPK created the fonts. However, the dvips cannot find it. : I also had set the TEXFONTS to /usr/TeX/lib/tex/fonts:. : How can i fix it? [ garbage output deleted ] : -- : Sincerely Yours : Hwang, Gwan-Hwan : ----------------- : Email: ghhwang@cs.nthu.edu.tw : < HOME > (035)554147 SLS 1.03 has an error in the TeX distribution: some tfm and pk files are not world-readable. Log in as root, cd to the fonts directory and type chmod a+r *. I hope everything is fine then. BTW: SLS distributors: repair this please! Happy TeXing, Steef E-Mail: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl ------------------------------ From: jfc@athena.mit.edu (John F Carr) Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc Subject: Re: FYI.. benchmarks on linux and 386bsd Date: 5 Oct 1993 11:33:06 GMT 30% is a large enough difference that it might be caused by incorrect definition of the clock tick rate (depending on how the program measures time). A pure CPU benchmark shouldn't change that much (unless the cache is disabled when running Linux?). -- John Carr (jfc@athena.mit.edu) ------------------------------ From: del@mark.enet.dec.com (Dan Latham) Subject: any S.New Hampshire users? Date: 5 Oct 1993 12:41:06 GMT Reply-To: del@mark.enet.dec.com (Dan Latham) I'm very interested in getting Linux on my PC at home, but I'd like to see it in action before I take the leap. Is there anyone in the Nashua, NH area that has it running that would like to take a 1/2 hour or so and show it off? Send me some mail. thanks, dan ------------------------------ From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) Subject: Re: Office Package (Island Dr Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 00:52:17 GMT In article <1.13284.2381.0N2799FA@satalink.com> john.will@satalink.com (John Will) writes: >TO>Now it is your turn!!! Please send me an E-Mail if you are pricipially >TO>willing to bye a package like "Draw, Write, Paint" for Linux. > >Since this is the first time I ever heard of "Draw, Write, Paint", it's >not likely that I'd agree to buy it for an unknown amount of money! >I doubt you'll find a lot of people willing to spend an undetermined amount >of money for an unknown package, think about it... :-) The products are IslandDraw, IslandWrite, and IslandPaint. Anyone familiar with Sun machines is probably aware of them (dunno about other workstations, but it seems awfully unlikely for IslandGraphics to be ignoring HP...). I don't know if they have an SCO port or not (and, quite frankly, don't care). If you aren't familiar with them, go pick on your nearest RISC workstation admin. He's probably being driven to distraction by their advertizing :-) and will be only to happy to unload it onto you if you ask... ++Brandon -- Brandon S. Allbery kf8nh@kf8nh.ampr.org bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org "MSDOS didn't get as bad as it is overnight -- it took over ten years of careful development." ---dmeggins@aix1.uottawa.ca ------------------------------ From: un025122@wvnvms.wvnet.edu Subject: lilo booting dos? Date: 4 Oct 93 23:26:13 EDT Hiya, Call me the village idiot, but what does that man page talking about lilo really mean when it shows a cnfiguration where you can boot dos from the unix partition. Does this mean that when I make the linuyx partition active and go into the lilo there is a way to make dos start up instead? That would be nice instead of the boot disk thing. If you can help me, please elaborate in any way possible. I did once try a multiple partition booter from dos, but it made me have to completely reformat my drive 3 times before it worked right again once to remove the old system and then one time for each partition. I twas a mess. oh well, thanks for any help in advance, and lease do email!!! bye bye Joel ------------------------------ From: koen@stack.urc.tue.nl (Koen Holtman) Subject: Re: Linux Backup? Date: 5 Oct 1993 13:55:20 GMT marauder@netsys.com (marauder) writes: >Is anyone familiar with a program(s) that allow multi-volume compressed >backups to /fd0 or /fd1 - something like "tar xvfz backup.tar.Z" supposedly >did? - I unfortunately do not have gobs of hard disk space to >pre-tar/combine/compress them prior to placing them on backup diskettes.. There are several utilities that split the output of tar zcv to multiple floppy disks. Then there's tbackup, see the LSM entry below. Tbackup needs some 3 meg free for temporary files. Title = Tbackup Version = 0.6.1 Desc1 = Tbackup (three backup) is a fault tolerant package for making Desc2 = backups of a linux filesystem. It is primarily designed to Desc3 = make multi-megabyte backups to a set of floppy disks. Desc4 = Tbackup can make compressed archives, and unlike tar+compress Desc5 = it can still deal with them if they are partially damaged. Author = Koen Holtman AuthorEmail = koen@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl Site1 = ftp.win.tue.nl Path1 = /pub/linux/tbackup File1 = tbackup061.tgz FileSize1 = 46755 Required1 = gcc, mtools, fdformat, gawk, gzip, afio. CopyPolicy1 = Freely Redistributable Keywords = tbackup backup floppy disk fault tolerant afio >also are their any disk defragmentation utilities for linux? There is one, I never tried it. The location of this program, and of several tar output splitters, is in the linux software map on sunsite.unc.edu in /pub/Linux/docs/lsm-*.gz. >thanks >td Koen. ------------------------------ From: kraus@rtsg.mot.com (David Kraus) Subject: Re: FidoNet software Date: 5 Oct 93 09:09:32 In article <749718119.AA02748@compsol.fidonet.org>, ben@compsol.fidonet.org (ben elliston) writes: > Has anyone seen FidoNet-compatible mail software anywhere for Linux? > Specifically, I'm looking for a mail processor and a message reader/editor. There is a port of BinkleyTerm that works reasonably well. There is the rfmail package which implements a mail/news tosser/packer. There are also several other packages (nixmail for an EMSI mailer, ifmail for tossing/packing, among others) that can be found. Hmm, you're Fidonet, Zone 3 - I'm not sure where you can find the software out there... Check your local Linux repository, they may be there... -- Dave Kraus Internet: kraus@rtsg.mot.com Motorola Cellular Infrastructure Group FidoNet : 1:115/439.8 Disclaimer: My employer's views and my views may necessarily differ. "Sun to burn out in 1.5 billion years! Clinton has a plan." - Outland ------------------------------ From: rfulk@cwis.unomaha.edu (Bob Fulkerson) Subject: *Whew!* Installed, but quota question. Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 15:10:36 GMT Well, greetings one and all! I finally have Linux installed on the machine that I convinced the Computer Science department to buy! :) Now for a relatively easy question, even though I can't seem to locate the answer through the man pages or elsewhere. I would like to setup the system so that users have a quota of, say, 3Megs of disk space each. I've found the "quotaon" command, which refers to the files quota.user and quota.groups, which need to be located in the / directory. Well, it never says what's supposed to be in those files and in what format. I've tried placing a value, such as 3000000 in the file, executing quotaon and waiting, but to no avail. Where am I misfiring? Thanks, -- Bob -- +-----------------------------------------+---------------------------------+ | Robert Fulkerson, Creighton University | rfulk@{unomaha|creighton}.edu | | Graduate Fellow, Computer Science | | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: iks@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Bolski) Subject: Printer daemon Date: 5 Oct 93 14:29:22 GMT I am trying to get my printer to work with the Slackware version of Linux. At this point in time, I've read the HOW-TO on printing, but it doesn't really help me. I've also read all the man pages on printcap, lpr, lpd, etc. I'm still not getting my daemon to connect. When I boot up, it says that it finds a printer port for /dev/lp2 (address = 0x278). I've set up a printcap file like this: lp|mine:lp=/dev/lp2:sd=/usr/spool/lp2:sh:mx#0: When I do a "ps ax", I don't see my daemon anywhere. If I type in lpd myself, it still doesn't work. If I spool, I get an error, saying my printer is out of paper. I do know that on boot-up, Linux is trying to connect because it gives me a message saying it's connecting to the printer daemon. Yet, nothing happens when I try to print. My printer is a Tandy DMP-202, which is fully compatable with an IBM ProPrinter X24. If anyone has any suggestions, I would appreciate it. I've read every- thing I could imagine possible. I really need this to work, since I'm doing my computer science projects with GCC and need a way to print things out. Thanks for any help, Ivan Samuelson ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: ba.seminars From: dkionka@Cadence.COM (Daniel P. Kionka) Subject: PC UNIX SIG Meeting Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 11:42:28 GMT PC UNIX SIG Wednesday, Oct 6, 7pm Unix on CD-ROM -------------- The worst part about switching to Unix on your PC has always been that you have to back up your hard disk, repartition it, and then load in several (dozen) floppies. Fortunately, this is no longer necessary, because you can now run a Unix clone right off a CD-ROM, just using a floppy. And, since this is freely redistributable software, it tends to be both up-to-date and reasonably priced. The October meeting of the PC UNIX SIG will focus on freeware CD-ROMs related to UNIX. Three companies will show us their products. Two of the companies, Yggdrasil Computing and Trans-Ameritech, have Linux systems that run directly off a CD-ROM. The third company, Prime Time Freeware, has a large (3.5 GB) collection of UNIX-related freeware and a plug-and-play SDK for use with Intel-based SVR4.2 (e.g., UnixWare). All three companies will be available to answer questions from the audience. If time allows, Rich Morin (Prime Time Freeware) will give a short talk on what is involved in producing CD-ROMs. General Meeting Information: Date: Wednesday, October 6, 7:00pm to 9:00pm (First Wednesday of the month.) Place: Stokes Publishing Company (this month only) 1292 Reamwood Avenue Sunnyvale Info: Dan Kionka, 408-944-7941, dkionka@cadence.com Bill Miller, 408-253-3175, slix@hip-hop.suvl.ca.us The PC UNIX SIG is a group that meets monthly to discuss low-end UNIX versions for the IBM PC family. The meetings are free and open to the public. This is a Special Interest Group of the Silicon Valley Computer Society, an IBM PC users group. For more information on SVCS call 408-956-0864. Please note the new location. We are meeting at Stokes Publishing this month only. We are still working on a new regular location. \ 101 | \ | \ | 237 ----\-------------|------------------------------------- \ | \ | /-----+-----+-----+-----+--- \ | / | | | |* <- Stokes Publishing \ | / | | | | . | / | | | | . |/-----+---+----++-----+-----+--- . | | | | | | | | | | | | | Lawrence Reamwood -- Daniel P. Kionka Cadence Design Systems, Inc. dkionka@cadence.com San Jose, CA 95134 (408) 944-7941 ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Activists-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux) via: Internet: Linux-Activists@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux tupac-amaru.informatik.rwth-aachen.de pub/msdos/replace The current version of Linux is 0.99pl9 released on April 23, 1993 End of Linux-Activists Digest ******************************