From: Digestifier To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Mon, 26 Sep 94 08:14:19 EDT Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #108 Linux-Admin Digest #108, Volume #2 Mon, 26 Sep 94 08:14:19 EDT Contents: Re: HPFS Filesystem (Chris Smith) Re: Need DL/Time Limiting ideas - Linux BBS (Riccardo Pizzi) Re: Access problem after changin root password (Brian Kramer) NCSA Httpd server on Linux (Pascal Cleve) Re: 4mm DAT on Linux? (Brian Kramer) Re: Dosemu in X (C. Engelmann) Re: Bug in Linux 'mv'? (Jeff Kesselman) Re: NCSA Httpd server on Linux (Michael Teper) Networking 2 machines? (MacGyver) Printer setup (S.hoffar) Re: NNTP Server (Matthew S. Crocker) WANTED: Routers and Terminal Servers (Tony Schwartz) Re: No Hostname (Alex R. Moon) Re: Has anyone gotten ftape to work? (Vir Lagua) Status on v.35 interfaces (Oystein Homelien) Re: Clean shutdown from X (Svenn Are Bjerkem) Re: NCSA Httpd server on Linux (Aleph One) Re: NNTP Server (Aleph One) Re: How to print out MAN PAGES ??? (Mitchum DSouza) Re: Want to read boot messagezx (Heiko Schlittermann) Re: How to print out MAN PAGES ??? (Heiko Schlittermann) Re: Access problem after changin root password (Aleph One) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: csmith@convex.com (Chris Smith) Subject: Re: HPFS Filesystem Date: 25 Sep 1994 19:00:29 -0500 From: sk001sp@unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Martin Spott) Date: 25 Sep 1994 11:19:46 GMT csmith@convex.com (I think) wrote HPFS for linux. When I asked him he pointed out that write access to HPFS is a very difficult thing when you want to do it right (fragmentation, performance ...), and he didn't know if he would have the time to figure out how OS/2 does it, because IBM didn't release any information about HPFS - the only official document that exists by now is the some years old one by Microsoft. I think it helps us much more if someone continues the work on ext2fs for OS/2. I will try writing HPFS at some point, but as you say it's much harder. Especially if the system crashes -- Linux does not normally write everything out in a way that leaves the disk consistent at all times. Linux fsck can live with this, it's not clear that OS/2 CHKDSK can, especially given the way HPFS directories work. But we shall see. ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.unixbbs From: pizzi@nervous.com (Riccardo Pizzi) Subject: Re: Need DL/Time Limiting ideas - Linux BBS Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 22:41:45 GMT In article <35tseb$4f5@lvl-sun684.usc.edu> killourh@lvl-sun684.usc.edu (Patrick Killourhy) writes: >2) record the time that the FIRST file transmission was begun. when the >first file is completely transferred (at the point where you are currently >checking the time limit) calculate the average throughput of the connection >and use that to estimate the estimated time for transmission of the rest of >the files. This is a great idea, IMHO. But it is only useful if there is more than one file to be transferred. >This could also be done by dumping (for instance) a 1000 >CR characters to the user's terminal, and calculating the average cps from >the time it takes for that. the more characters, obviously, the more reliable >the estimate, but the longer it takes to get the estimate. This can also >be readjusted after each file as per the above. >An even better method would be to calculate the average throughput by >measuring the time it takes to transmit a system banner or motd (or >whatever). That way the user is getting useful text instead of a blinking >cursor.. This is actually a problem, because most (if not all) today's modems have large internal buffers that will drain the whole banner instantaneously... Rick -- Riccardo Pizzi @ the Nervous Consulting Headquarters - Rimini, ITALY E-Mail -> pizzi@nervous.com <*> Data -> +39-541-27135 (V.32bis) NERVOUS CONSULTING brought you UniBoard, the great UNIX BBS package for latest UniBoard info, use: echo SEND LIST | mail uniboard@nervous.com ------------------------------ From: bjkramer@pluto.njcc.com (Brian Kramer) Subject: Re: Access problem after changin root password Date: 26 Sep 1994 00:17:54 -0400 Greg Colin (gcolin@netcom.com) wrote: : After installing Linux 0.99.15g I changed the root password and now : cannot log in as root either with the password I set, or with the default : (blank) password. : Obviously, I have to reinstall Linux, but want to avoid this problem. Can : someone email a clue to this poor newbie? Use the orignal boot disk you used to setup linux. Then mount the root partition. Since that disk has a blank password for the system, you should be able to access the password file and delete the password and try again. -- Brian Kramer - Owner/Systems Administrator - bjkramer@pluto.njcc.com New Jersey Computer Connection - Public Access Unix Site - pluto.njcc.com Voice: 609-896-2799 - Fax: 609-896-2994 - Dialups: 609-896-3191 Dialup or Telnet to pluto.njcc.com and log in as guest for more information. ------------------------------ From: cleve@tiac.net (Pascal Cleve) Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.misc Subject: NCSA Httpd server on Linux Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 00:15:53 GMT Has anybody compiled and ran the NCSA HTTPD server on Linux. Any advice would be appreciated. Pascal -- Pascal Cleve cleve@tiac.net ------------------------------ From: bjkramer@pluto.njcc.com (Brian Kramer) Crossposted-To: utah.linux Subject: Re: 4mm DAT on Linux? Date: 25 Sep 1994 20:07:43 -0400 Pete Kruckenberg (kruckenb@sal.cs.utah.edu) wrote: : I've heard that Linux will support 8mm DAT and a lot of other tape : drives, but I've never heard about 4mm DATs. Does anyone know if they : are supported under Linux, and if so, which brands/models? I'd prefer : SCSI, but if there is an floppy-controlled (or proprietary controller) : one that works with Linux, let me know. I'm assuming that a 4mm SCSI : DAT would be supported with the regular SCSI tape driver, so please : let me know if I'm right or wrong. I'd recommend a Wangdat drive. I am using one now and they are great. I am using their new DDS-2 model. -- Brian Kramer - Owner/Systems Administrator - bjkramer@pluto.njcc.com New Jersey Computer Connection - Public Access Unix Site - pluto.njcc.com Voice: 609-896-2799 - Fax: 609-896-2994 - Dialups: 609-896-3191 Dialup or Telnet to pluto.njcc.com and log in as guest for more information. ------------------------------ From: engel@yacc.central.de (C. Engelmann) Subject: Re: Dosemu in X Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 21:53:41 GMT >ps@kis.uni-freiburg.de (Peter Suetterlin) writes: >>Dan Wold (danw@panix.com) wrote: >>: I just setup pre53_20. It's working pretty well. >>: When I do "dos -AX" the dosemulator starts up in a nice "Dos in a Box" >>: window. I was able to run Telix (a dos telecom program) in the window. >>: I can't seem to figure out how to get backspace & delete to work in >>: this window. When I logged onto a remote system with Telix the backspace and >>: arrow keys worked normally. Does anyone have a hint on how to fix this? >The README tells you something about X (read: xmodmap) sending >keystrokes that dosemu doesn't expect. For german keyboards it is even >worse: you cant get ":", so changing drives is a no-go :-( >Has someone a 'useable' xmodmap for use with dosemu? >>: The other problem is booting from the hdimage file. When I do "dos -CX" then >>: the emulator starts up in the original xterm rather than opening "Dos in a >>: Box". I could use a clue on this one too. >Dont know about this. Maybe try xdos -C ? I have a lot of keyboard problems wit pre53_19, too, but I don't think it's the modmap, because the problems are allways different. Capslock doesn't work on one machine, but works fine on another one. One is compiled with "make doeverything" and the other one with "make most"(If that is the reason ??) Carsten ------------------------------ From: jeffpk@netcom.com (Jeff Kesselman) Subject: Re: Bug in Linux 'mv'? Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 00:26:39 GMT In article <1994Sep20.124345.77@csis.pcscav.com>, Karsten Johansson wrote: >My system is setup with the entire Linux installation on my main hard drive, >and my /home directory on a separate 40Meg hard drive. > >If I move large files from my root disk to the /home disk, the command will TYpically UNIX mv does not work across volumes. I'm suprised it doesnt error out on you. The standard way to move things across volumes is to use tar to copy it, and then rm -r the original. ------------------------------ From: Michael Teper Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.misc Subject: Re: NCSA Httpd server on Linux Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 01:40:09 -0400 Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux.admin: 26-Sep-94 NCSA Httpd server on Linux by Pascal Cleve@tiac.net > Has anybody compiled and ran the NCSA HTTPD server on Linux. Any > advice would be appreciated. The NCSA distribution compiles cleanly on Linux and then you just have to follow the directions in the docs (you can either get and install the doc html pages or just view them at NCSA via Mosaic or whatnot) to set up the config files. The setup was more or less a piece of cake although I still have a question: how to set up the directory, etc permissions such that when my Linux box is accessed via Mosaic without calling a specific page, it would go straight to the default page as opposed to attempting to list the directory and THEN displaying the page below (if I restrict access to all files there's still lines left indicating that directory is being read but its empty as far as httpd is concerned). Any clues appreciated. PS. To the original poster, if you have any specific questions about the installation, drop me a note. ========================================================================= + Michael Teper | Member: TeamOS/2 + + nuvision@cmu.edu | NuVision Technologies + + mt3q@andrew.cmu.edu | - The Vision of the Future + ========================================================================= ------------------------------ From: macgyver@MCS.COM (MacGyver) Subject: Networking 2 machines? Date: 26 Sep 1994 01:58:59 -0500 Hi there folks, I've got a major problem trying to network a couple of my machines. Basically, I use machine A to dial into SLIP and connect me to the net. Machine B is connected to machine A via PLIP, which works just fine. Machine A can see hosts on the Internet and can telnet anywhere. Machine B can only see Machine A, and nothing else. I want to set it up so I can telnet out from either Machine B or Machine A, by using Machine A as a router or gateway to the net. ANY help would be greatly appreciated. HJD. ------------------------------ From: szhoffar@chip.ucdavis.edu (S.hoffar) Subject: Printer setup Date: 22 Sep 1994 05:19:11 GMT I need help setting up a printer....I have never done it on a unix system before. I have a hp deskjet. Is there some kind of script that can be ran? WHat files need to be on the system to make the printer work? I need all the basics. thank you in advance. Sally ------------------------------ From: matthew@crocker.com (Matthew S. Crocker) Subject: Re: NNTP Server Date: 26 Sep 1994 01:25:32 GMT Craig Peterson (cjp@cc.usu.edu) wrote: : Is there an NNTP Server for Linux? Where can I : get it and what does it work well? Thanks. : Craig Peterson Yes, its called inn v1.4 and it comes with the Slackware v2.0 dist. Yes, it works well, I've had my inn server up for about a month now handling a full feed, its working perfectly -- -Matthew S Crocker "The mask, given time, comes mcrocker@crocker.com to be the face itself." -anonymous *OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2* *linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux* ------------------------------ From: tony@teleport.com (Tony Schwartz) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development Subject: WANTED: Routers and Terminal Servers Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 20:56:29 I have cash and a need for some routers and Terminal Servers. If you have any extras around that you want to part with, please email me with descriptions and pricing. Thanks in advance. Tony Schwartz Portland, OR tony@teleport.com (Not related to teleport.com, just a client) ------------------------------ From: moon@symphony.cc.purdue.edu (Alex R. Moon) Subject: Re: No Hostname Date: 23 Sep 1994 23:55:46 GMT In article <35vp3b$eof@news1.shell>, David - Morris wrote: > >I have both /etc/HOSTNAME and /etc/hostname on my system and it >still can't remember the hostname between boots. I issue: > hostname gate Simply put this command in the appropriate rc init file. (probably rc.M) >from root (gate is the hostname) when I start and that fixes things. > >Dave Morris --Alex moon@symphony.cc.purdue.edu ------------------------------ From: vir@45acp.slip.com (Vir Lagua) Crossposted-To: utah.linux Subject: Re: Has anyone gotten ftape to work? Date: 22 Sep 1994 05:48:29 GMT Pete Kruckenberg (kruckenb@cadesm43.eng.utah.edu) wrote: : I'm going to be setting up some kind of backup system on my Linux box, : and I'm wondering if anyone has gotten ftape to work. I haven't really : tried, but I heard some comments that it didn't work or was difficult : to set up. Are they true? Jeremy Main has written the HOWTO on ftape, I think. : Also, any recommendations on what to get to back-up a 1GB drive (all : Linux ext2)? I was thinking about using a Colorado Jumbo 250, but : that'll take several tapes to backup. Are there any Linux-compatible : tape drives (SCSI or proprietary bus, since I don't have IDE in this : machine) that are pretty affordable (under $500) that are close to : 1GB? SCSI DAT Tape Drives should backup your entire 1GB drive with no problems, except for the under $500 limitation. I use an Archive DAT Tape drive. : Thanks. : Pete. -- CUL, vir ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Network and InterNetwork Solutions + There is only one Amendment yet another computer consultant (yacc) + that ensures all 10. The 2nd. yacc - Vir Lagua

------------------------------ From: oystein@powertech.no (Oystein Homelien) Subject: Status on v.35 interfaces Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 08:28:18 GMT Could someone please post a summary on what has been done to make Linux support v.35 interfaces - who is working on it, what cards are being supported, at what speeds etc.. If you reply by mail, I'll post a summary here (perhaps more than one person is working on something). -- - - - - - - - - - - Oystein Homelien, Administrator @ PowerTech Information Systems AS Norway. InterNet: oystein@powertech.no -- WWW: http://www.powertech.no/~oystein/ ------------------------------ From: svenn@invalid.ed.unit.no (Svenn Are Bjerkem) Subject: Re: Clean shutdown from X Date: 26 Sep 1994 08:18:52 GMT [Things deleted] : 1. Hit Alt-Ctrl-Backspace (kills X) : 2. As soon as you see the text screen, hit Ctrl-Alt-Del. The release of Xdm I'm running starts up again immediately after it has shut down. I tried to kill the process from a remote term but then the grey background was all I got, and it was stuck. I'm not running xdm frequently so I really don't care. Svenn Are Bjerkem ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.misc From: aleph1@dfw.net (Aleph One) Subject: Re: NCSA Httpd server on Linux Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 11:28:12 GMT Michael Teper (mt3q+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: : Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux.admin: 26-Sep-94 NCSA Httpd server : on Linux by Pascal Cleve@tiac.net : > Has anybody compiled and ran the NCSA HTTPD server on Linux. Any : > advice would be appreciated. : The NCSA distribution compiles cleanly on Linux and then you just have : to follow the directions in the docs (you can either get and install the : doc html pages or just view them at NCSA via Mosaic or whatnot) to set : up the config files. : The setup was more or less a piece of cake although I still have a : question: how to set up the directory, etc permissions such that when : my Linux box is accessed via Mosaic without calling a specific page, it : would go straight to the default page as opposed to attempting to list : the directory and THEN displaying the page below (if I restrict access : to all files there's still lines left indicating that directory is being : read but its empty as far as httpd is concerned). : Any clues appreciated. by default httpd will display the index.html file in a directory if none is specified. : PS. To the original poster, if you have any specific questions about the : installation, drop me a note. : ========================================================================= : + Michael Teper | Member: TeamOS/2 + : + nuvision@cmu.edu | NuVision Technologies + : + mt3q@andrew.cmu.edu | - The Vision of the Future + : ========================================================================= ------------------------------ From: aleph1@dfw.net (Aleph One) Subject: Re: NNTP Server Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 11:30:31 GMT Matthew S. Crocker (matthew@crocker.com) wrote: : Craig Peterson (cjp@cc.usu.edu) wrote: : : Is there an NNTP Server for Linux? Where can I : : get it and what does it work well? Thanks. : : Craig Peterson : Yes, its called inn v1.4 and it comes with the Slackware v2.0 dist. : Yes, it works well, I've had my inn server up for about a month now : handling a full feed, its working perfectly : -- : -Matthew S Crocker "The mask, given time, comes : mcrocker@crocker.com to be the face itself." -anonymous : *OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2* : *linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux* Please note that there is a security problem with inn1.4 and you should get and install inn1.4sec. I've u/l a binary and src to sunsite in the Incoming direcotry *dont know if still there, if not check aournd). a1 http://dfw.net/~aleph1 ------------------------------ From: Mitchum.DSouza@mrc-apu.cam.ac.uk (Mitchum DSouza) Subject: Re: How to print out MAN PAGES ??? Date: 26 Sep 1994 11:37:54 GMT In article <35sk4c$ide@news.uni-c.dk>, pd@kubism.ku.dk (Peter Dalgaard SFE) writes: |> In <1994Sep20.210047.595@habbib.mayn.sub.de> jachmann@habbib.mayn.sub.de |> (Christian Jachmann) writes: |> |> >NISCHELWITZER Alexander Kurt (nischi@tu-graz.ac.at) wrote: |> >: Hello, |> |> >: I want to print out online manpages |> >: (e.g. man cd | lpr -Pxxx ) but I have |> >: problems because I get always ugly |> >: control characters , , etc.). |> |> >: How can I use nroff (groff, troff, etc.) |> >: and the man-macros to avoid these control |> >: characters and my |> >: GREATEST PROBLEM: how can I print |> >: out preformated man pages without |> >: these ugly control characters on my printer? |> |> >If u've got a Postscript-Printer, try to get a2ps. It converts ASCII to |> >PostScript, prints 2 or more pages on one converts all control characters. |> |> Actually, it is a bit of a "verschlimmbesserung" that the |> distribution tend to carry the formatted man pages only. |> Granted, you get faster lookup times, but you lose the ability |> to pretty-print them with 'man -t'. For some of the larger |> "pages", this can actually be the difference between readable |> and not. The slackware contrib directory has a rather extensive |> set of manual sources. |> |> BTW: Can you have the *sources* in compressed form and still |> have 'man' working? Depends on what "man" you have. For definite (I use it) man-1.4b lets you compress (gzip) everthing. This includes sources and preformatted man pages. Mitch ------------------------------ From: heiko@lotte.sax.de (Heiko Schlittermann) Subject: Re: Want to read boot messagezx Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 06:50:56 GMT In article <35n38s$e9p@linus.mitre.org>, Van Zandt wrote: >mmarten@panix.com (Marten Liebster) writes: >>Greg J. Pryzby (gjp@vtci.com) wrote: >>: Where (or are) the messages displayed at boot stored? Is there a way >>: to read the messages that are written to the console at boot? >>Check the /var/adm directory. There should be a file called messages. >>That file contains the messages, older files will be labeled messages.01, >>messages.02, etc. > >When I ran SLS, I found a copy of the boot messages somewhere under >/proc. Now that I'm running Slackware, I no longer have a copy of the >boot messages, under /var/adm or anywhere else I've looked. This >clearly depends on how syslogd is configured. I looked into it, but >haven't found the right combination. Could someone post an example? It should be sufficient to include `dmesg > somewhere' just after the start of your syslogd. --- heiko ------------------------------ From: heiko@lotte.sax.de (Heiko Schlittermann) Subject: Re: How to print out MAN PAGES ??? Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 06:54:03 GMT In article <1994Sep20.210047.595@habbib.mayn.sub.de>, Christian Jachmann wrote: >NISCHELWITZER Alexander Kurt (nischi@tu-graz.ac.at) wrote: > >If u've got a Postscript-Printer, try to get a2ps. It converts ASCII to >PostScript, prints 2 or more pages on one converts all control characters. Or, w/o PostScript-Printer pipe the output to ghostscript. -- heiko ------------------------------ From: aleph1@dfw.net (Aleph One) Subject: Re: Access problem after changin root password Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 11:35:50 GMT Brian Kramer (bjkramer@pluto.njcc.com) wrote: : Greg Colin (gcolin@netcom.com) wrote: : : After installing Linux 0.99.15g I changed the root password and now : : cannot log in as root either with the password I set, or with the default : : (blank) password. : : Obviously, I have to reinstall Linux, but want to avoid this problem. Can : : someone email a clue to this poor newbie? : Use the orignal boot disk you used to setup linux. Then mount the root : partition. Since that disk has a blank password for the system, : you should be able to access the password file and delete the password : and try again. : -- : Brian Kramer - Owner/Systems Administrator - bjkramer@pluto.njcc.com : New Jersey Computer Connection - Public Access Unix Site - pluto.njcc.com : Voice: 609-896-2799 - Fax: 609-896-2994 - Dialups: 609-896-3191 : Dialup or Telnet to pluto.njcc.com and log in as guest for more information. You can also take the system down to single user mode from the lilo boot promt. But the exact command escapes me right now. a1 http://dfw.net/~aleph1 ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Admin-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.admin) via: Internet: Linux-Admin@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux End of Linux-Admin Digest ******************************