From: Digestifier To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Sun, 2 Oct 94 23:14:08 EDT Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #136 Linux-Admin Digest #136, Volume #2 Sun, 2 Oct 94 23:14:08 EDT Contents: Idle telnet sessions being killed (Chris Nicol) Re: FIPS or UMSDOS - WHICH ONE??? (Albert Hui) Re: G3->something_nice NEEDED (Toon van der Pas) SLIP idle statistics? (Brian M Berry) Re: No Hostname (Robert J. Shmit) Re: Can Linux Mount a Mac Floppy (Jeff Kesselman) Re: Want to read boot messagezx (Steve Whorwood) Re: X-windows (Stephen Louis Ulmer) GCC for Pentiums (Michael Esler) Re: mounting Misumi CD on 1.1.49 (Mapfumo) PCI vs. VLB (Riku Saikkonen) CD-ROMs (Riku Saikkonen) Re: apsfilter won't print (Stefan M. Schober) Re: ftape and linux-1.1.45 (Stryder) [Q] Linux Box choking Network (SAMUEL BLACK) Re: Ncurses signals broken? (Carlos Dominguez) Re: Printcap from hell (Carlos Dominguez) Re: ftape and linux-1.1.45 (Carlos Dominguez) Re: Telnet & ftp freeze! (Ralph Sims) afio stupid question (Carlos Dominguez) How do you see who logged in? (Serge Solski u) Removable Hard Disk Support (Istvan Fekete) Re: Printcap from hell (Matthew Aaron Armstrong) Re: /sbin/hostname on 1.1.45- (John E. Gotts) tar help ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NICOLC@MAX.CC.Uregina.CA (Chris Nicol) Subject: Idle telnet sessions being killed Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 18:10:35 GMT Hi everybody. I just installed gcc-2.5.8, libc-4.5.26 and libg++2.5.31.2. This made me very tired. But I wanted to do this so that I could upgrade my kernel. I am now running kernel v1.1.45. I use my Linux box, a 486/33 pc, to connect to a Sun SPARC running SunOS 4.1.2 via ppp 2.1.2a at both ends. The Sun is on our University network, so it is my gateway to the Univ network. Since I did the upgrade, I have noticed that login sessions to remote machines on the network (actually, telnet sessions) are being logged out if they are idle for more than a couple of hours. This is a little annoying, and I never had this kind of experience before. I was running v 1.1.20 of the kernel previously. Does anyone know what in this version of the kernel is causing this anti-social behaviour, and how I can circumvent it? I am not running the logoutd daemon, nor do I have an /etc/porttime file, but I never have run logoutd and have never had a /etc/porttime file before either. I feel maybe there is some process running, though, which is checking for activity on the ppp link, and logging out users who are idle for some time. While the telnet sessions are being killed, though, the ppp link remains up. Any advice or pointers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Please reply directly to me by e-mail. Chris Nicol. ------------------------------ From: avatar@excalibur.apana.org.au (Albert Hui) Subject: Re: FIPS or UMSDOS - WHICH ONE??? Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 16:53:39 GMT fox@graphics.cs.nyu.edu (David Fox) writes: >In article <1994Sep28.133850.21368@let.rug.nl> vannoord@let.rug.nl (Gertjan van Noord) writes: >] UMSDOS is _much_ slower than e.g. ext2fs. I'd recommend FIPS. It is >] not difficult to use and contains good documentation. >Does FIPS work with 1 gig IDE drives? I dunno. But I had a whole 540Mb compressed with Stacker 4.0 . When I try to shrink it, I discovered that the Stacker uncompressing routine can't handle that much data! What a crook of Messy Dos. -- `'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._ Albert Hui (The Avatar) | - avatar@excalibur.apana.org.au | "To boldly code where no one has - s931306@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au | man page for." --Joe R. Hacker ------------------------------ From: toon@vdpas.hobby.nl (Toon van der Pas) Subject: Re: G3->something_nice NEEDED Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 12:40:28 GMT gert@greenie.muc.de (Gert Doering) writes: >ps@kis.uni-freiburg.de (Peter Suetterlin) writes: >>: >Does someone have g3topbm or g3->gif that works smoothly? >[..] >>As we are at that topic: >>How to print out a fax? What I tried was raw fax --> g3topbm (from >>mgetty+sendfax. really works nice) --> Postscript (via xv). >Ummm, I'm afraid xv may do its own scaling. You may want to try > >"g3topbm | pnmtops" > >(pnmtops being from the pbmplus distribution, forget about netpbm, >it's badly broken) - gives very good results here. I use "g3topbm < fax.g3 | pnmtops -dpi 240 -noturn | gs ...." If I don't use -noturn, then the image is turned 90 degrees and printed on its side. Resized to about a quarter of its original size, of course. I print my faxes on an Epson-compatible 9-pin matrix printer, for the time being. No money yet to buy a decent laserprinter. :-( By the way: Faxes that are sent to me using the 'fine' mode print out just about perfect, while 'normal' faxes look very compressed. I (still) use mgetty*sendfax 0.18 with a ZyXEL U1496E+ modem. Thanks gert, for this great package! Toon. -- Toon van der Pas Tel.: +31 3403 53162 Zomervlinderberm 24 Email: toon@vdpas.hobby.nl 3994 WP Houten ------------------------------ From: berry@ee.cornell.edu (Brian M Berry) Subject: SLIP idle statistics? Date: 2 Oct 1994 19:02:23 GMT I'm looking for a way to detect SLIP connection idle times. I'm connecting my machine to an on-campus SLIP server, for access in both directions. Since others will be using the connection from the outside, I won't necessarily be sitting in front of the machine to terminate the connection when not needed. In essence, I'm looking for a way for a cron job to find out how long the SLIP connection has been idle, then cycle it if required. Any ideas, hacks, etc? ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Brian Michael Berry berry@ee.cornell.edu Graduate Student / Electrical Engineering Cornell University / Ithaca NY ------------------------------ From: cully@ritz.mordor.com (Robert J. Shmit) Subject: Re: No Hostname Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 01:38:28 GMT Brad Matthew Garcia (garcia@ece.cmu.edu) wrote: : Could you please tell me where to get the new bin? Do I need an upgraded : 'a' disk set? Does anyone know? as far as i know slackware 2.0 doesnt have a good bin either.. unfortunately i dont know where to get it (someone /dcc'd it to me when i asked about it) so ill send it to sunsite in /pub/Linux/Incoming -- ======================+================================================== cully@ritz.mordor.com | Send me your poor, your lonely, your crippled masses ======================+ of Atogs. I will still accept them at NO CHARGE to Brian Cully | you! Email me for information about my home for ------------------------------ From: jeffpk@netcom.com (Jeff Kesselman) Subject: Re: Can Linux Mount a Mac Floppy Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 18:28:31 GMT In article <1994Oct2.125653.291@acad.ursinus.edu>, Steve Kneizys wrote: >Tim Bass (Network Systems Engineer) (bass@cais2.cais.com) wrote: > > >: Got some ASCII text files on my Powerbook... Would like to write them >: to the PB floppy and then mount the floppy on my linux box and >: read the ascii text (and do some other stuff). I haven't seen this >: in any FAQ or the The Linux Bible. Any clues for the clueless ;-) > >Well, my solution is, instead of making Linux understand the Mac >format why not make the Mac understand a format Linux does! I have >to exchange data between Mac, PC, VAX, Unix, and use FTP for most of >it. But when I do flopppy exchange, I use a DOS formatted floppy... >the Dayna product DOSMOUNTER for Mac lets me mount Dos floppies on the >Mac, write ascii files, then mount on Unix, etc. You can also use Apple File Exchange. Its not a convenient but it comes with system 7 at no additional charge. (It deosn't mount the DOS disk, but allows you to copy files off it and onto it from the mac.) Alternately, I use ACCESS PC (does basicly the same thing as dos mounter) so there are many choices to accomplish this task. > >I heard a rumor there was a shareware program that mounted DOS disks >on Macs, but never looked into it. But if you want to go this roundabout >way then I'd think some Mac folks could help more than I have. > >Good luck! > >Steve... ------------------------------ From: Steve@vertex.demon.co.uk (Steve Whorwood) Subject: Re: Want to read boot messagezx Reply-To: Steve@vertex.demon.co.uk Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 20:26:21 +0000 In article <35k5vm$4h8@news1.digex.net> gjp@vtci.com "Greg J. Pryzby" writes: > Where (or are) the messages displayed at boot stored? Is there a way > to read the messages that are written to the console at boot? > > Everything scrolls by so fast that I can't read them, but I would like > too. > > Thanks in advance for the help! See if you've go dmesg on your system. That does exactly what you want. -- Steve Whorwood :Resurgam E-Mail Steve@vertex.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ From: ulmer@cutter.cis.ufl.edu (Stephen Louis Ulmer) Subject: Re: X-windows Date: 29 Sep 1994 19:44:02 GMT In article s010dls@alpha.wright.edu () writes: >When Linux boots I see this: > >Welcome to Linux 1.1.18. >hostname login: > >and it waits for someone to login. This is fine, but I would rather >have Linux boot into X and show somekind of dialog box prompting for >login id and password. I don't need a window manager running or >anything. Actually, I'd rather not have one running and let the >~/.profile load one. > Look in your /etc/inittab. At the very top is a way to set your default runlevel. If you haven't modified this file extensively (and you haven't) runlevel 6 is for an windows only (almost) system. Change the line that is commented about the default rulevel. Next, at the bottom of this file you will see what recource file is run for the Xwindows runlevel. This is PROBABLY /etc/rc.d/rc.6, for runlevel 6. If you look at this file, you will see that it runs xdm (xwindows display manager). This is the daemon that restarts you Xserver and prompts each user for a login. Finally `man xdm`. Read the FAQ, too. Stephen ------------------------------ From: mke2e@watt.seas.Virginia.EDU (Michael Esler) Subject: GCC for Pentiums Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 01:38:38 GMT In a response to a post about Pentiums, I noticed someone mentioned a gcc optimized for Pentiums. Is this GCC 2.6.0? It is the most current version I have been able to find (new as of July) and its README does not include i586 as an optimized processor. Am I missing the boat? Does this exist someplace else or do I already have it? The implications are huge. My box would be *that* much faster, as would X etc. Help please. Mike Esler mike@gauss.dorm.virginia.edu ------------------------------ From: mapfumo@aol.com (Mapfumo) Subject: Re: mounting Misumi CD on 1.1.49 Date: 30 Sep 1994 22:23:02 -0400 In article , David Inwoong Hong writes: When I bought my box, I originally got a mitsumi cd player in it. However, linux could not read (nor could dos) the drive even though it detected it initially. Apparently, when the drive would not respond, Linux tried all the NEC drivers and then the kernal went into panic mode and quite. When I took the cdrom back to the company I bought the computer from (a generic outfit), they finally decided it was a hadware problem (do to other similar dos problems to mine) and set me up with a panasonic SB16 set up. This seems to work fine. I do not know if you could possibly be having the same problem (the company also told me they'd had some similar problems with other mitsumi from the same supplier they got mine from -- were they making excuses to me, i don't know...) At anyrate, If my experience is any indicator, you may be having hardware trouble. :\ ------------------------------ Subject: PCI vs. VLB From: riku.saikkonen@compart.fi (Riku Saikkonen) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 94 21:36:00 +0200 Which system would be better to use for Linux (+X), a VLB motherboard with a VLB display adapter, I/O card, and whatever, or a PCI system? I've heard that PCI would be somewhat faster; how much? Also, I've heard that PCI isn't too stable yet, some cards won't work together; is this right? Does the kernel support VLB or PCI IDE host adapters? Are they much faster than ISA ones? A common PCI display adapter seems to be an 'AvanceLogic' (I don't know of a model) card. Does XFree86 2.1.1 support this? Which chipset does it have? Would I be better off with a Cirrus? (Which is better, a 5428 or a 5434?) Does the kernel support the NCR SCSI-2 controller that is integrated in some PCI motherboards? I found some NCR PCI drivers in drivers/scsi; do they work with the integrated chip (unfortunately I've forgotten the chip model number)? -=- Rjs -=- riku.saikkonen@compart.fi - IRC: Rjs "From cavern pale the moist moon eyes / the white mists that from earth arise / to hide the morrow's sun and drip / all the grey day from each twig's tip." - J. R. R. Tolkien ------------------------------ Subject: CD-ROMs From: riku.saikkonen@compart.fi (Riku Saikkonen) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 94 21:36:00 +0200 Lots of performance questions today... :) Which is the fastest, a double-speed SCSI CD-ROM with an ISA host adapter, the same with PCI/VLB (does it make a difference with something as slow as a CD-ROM?), or a double-speed Sony interface CD-ROM? -=- Rjs -=- riku.saikkonen@compart.fi - IRC: Rjs "From cavern pale the moist moon eyes / the white mists that from earth arise / to hide the morrow's sun and drip / all the grey day from each twig's tip." - J. R. R. Tolkien ------------------------------ From: stenny@troja.In-Berlin.De (Stefan M. Schober) Subject: Re: apsfilter won't print Date: 30 Sep 1994 23:55:47 +0100 At 26 Sep 1994 23:05:07 GMT, Andreas Klemm (andreas@knobel.gun.de) wrote in article <367k33$2fs@knobel.gun.de>: >> Egbert, try 4.8, see my announcement ... >> 3.0 had problems, 301 cured them. In general 4.8 should work >> pretty nice !!!! Well Andreas, it `should' do so, but for me it didn't--at least not pretty nice. I got apsfilter-4.8 from ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de and installed in in /usr/lib/apsfilter, following the installation instructions. I expected the package to run from scratch, as the further versions (up to now I used V2.3) did, but I was dissapointed. First I recognized, that the file permissions didn't allow any other user except of root, to access any of the files in the apsfilter directory. After changing the permissions I wondered about search path settings, which didn't match my system setup. I had to change the file GLOBAL.SH to meet my needs. What about using the user's PATH? After these changes, apsfilter seems to work 'pretty well' .... stefan -- stenny@troja.In-Berlin.De === Stefan Schober, Berlin === +49-30-361 08 20 ------------------------------ From: stryder@access4.digex.net (Stryder) Subject: Re: ftape and linux-1.1.45 Date: 2 Oct 1994 15:55:39 -0400 mikeh@vkgs.com (Mike Haaland) writes: >After installing and rebuilding my kernel 1.1.45, then compiling >ftape-1.13b, I try to install the new ftape module and get the message >"_irqaction undefined". I looks like the function irqaction() is not >in my kernal. Yup. Exactly. At least I know it's not just me. >What do I need to do to make ftape work? Anyone using ftape with >linux-1.1.45? >Thanks, > Mike Haaland ------------------------------ From: sblack@ee.ryerson.ca (SAMUEL BLACK) Subject: [Q] Linux Box choking Network Date: 2 Oct 1994 20:16:31 GMT Hi We have been having a very serious problem with our Linux boxes. The problem, when it happens, jams our local network. The % network traffic goes through the roof. The problem happens happens every time someone tries to ghostview any of the postscript files on our nfs server. Ghostview is not the problem, because this happens sometimes when nobody is on the machine. I think there is a problem with one of the many daemons (nfsd,mountd,ypbind, etc..). Don't ask me which though. We are using Slakware 2.0, and all that implies. I tried that fix for the portmapper, ie the fix to libc 4.5.26, but it didn't seem to help. Any help would by appreciated. Thanks... Mark Black post or email: sblack@ee.ryerson.ca ------------------------------ From: carlos@interport.net (Carlos Dominguez) Subject: Re: Ncurses signals broken? Date: 2 Oct 1994 16:25:50 -0400 Zeyd M. Ben-Halim (zmbenhal@netcom.com) wrote: : You have an OLD version, try using 1.8.5. Zeyd, If I use the ncurses 185 package and its terminfo, I get no color on my slackware 2.0 utils, and mouseless commander, but I get color on my aumix binary which uses ncurses. If I use the terminfo that comes with slackware 2.0, I get color with my slack utils, but B&W on my aumix binary. How can I modify my setup to display color for *both*, or must I choose between one and the other? ..toodles -- __ __ __ | .__. __. :::: Carlos Dominguez - proprietor - sysadmin | __| | | | | |__ :::: carlos@basselope.com |__ |__| | | |__| .__| :::: Basselope *nix systems --------------------------- Internet services consulting is our forte ------------------------------ From: carlos@interport.net (Carlos Dominguez) Subject: Re: Printcap from hell Date: 2 Oct 1994 16:29:51 -0400 Jean Baril (baril@phoque.info.uqam.ca) wrote: : The printer is online, ie, things like "cat >/dev/lp1 hello.txt" : works ok... read the "Printing-HOWTO" and re-read it again ;) then get the apsfilter package aps48.tgz install it, follow the instructions. It will work wonders for you :) -- __ __ __ | .__. __. :::: Carlos Dominguez - proprietor - sysadmin | __| | | | | |__ :::: carlos@basselope.com |__ |__| | | |__| .__| :::: Basselope *nix systems --------------------------- Internet services consulting is our forte ------------------------------ From: carlos@interport.net (Carlos Dominguez) Subject: Re: ftape and linux-1.1.45 Date: 2 Oct 1994 16:32:11 -0400 go to sunsite.unc.edu and ftp the latest version patched to fix this boo-boo. -- __ __ __ | .__. __. :::: Carlos Dominguez - proprietor - sysadmin | __| | | | | |__ :::: carlos@basselope.com |__ |__| | | |__| .__| :::: Basselope *nix systems --------------------------- Internet services consulting is our forte ------------------------------ From: ralphs@halcyon.halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.development Subject: Re: Telnet & ftp freeze! Date: 2 Oct 1994 19:45:01 GMT root@jaguar.tigerden.com (System Administrator) writes: >Trevor Lampre (trevor@xanax.apana.org.au) wrote: >: As the admin of a public access system it is of great concern to me, I've >: had sendmail die for about 2 days before I noticed as well as the other >: problems described. I spend more time now checking/killing/rebooting >: my network stuff than I do giving more value to my users. I might just >: switch to *BSD, at least the network code works. >Thank WHATEVER that others are seeing this problem! And thanks to ... >for confirming what we've been seeing! I suggest we keep this thread >open and fill it with additional information until the problem gets the >attention it needs. I'm not a programmer, much less a kernel hacker, so >I can only voice frustration with the situation. And what about those of us that DON'T see it? Basic setup is a dedicated PPP link on a 14.4 dialup, NET-3 stuff, ppd 2.1.2a, etc., with an InfoMagic/TransAmeritech CD-ROM combined install. I move many megabytes of files around via FTP daily, and another many megs around with mosaic and lynx. Sendmail+IDA's been rock-solid. >I'm new to all this, and don't know all the avenues to pursue. I'd >appreciate any help in getting this problem hilighted and information >flowing to the *someone* who understands how the net interfaces really >work and who can really and *finally* *fix* it! How do we proceed? The AMPR code is still beta-stuff, I think. Do you really need it? Also, are your users using ncftp or 'stock' ftp? Aside from the X25 stuff in your kernel, and the fact your dialin users are seeing/causing this, there probably isn't much difference in the way we do things. I have no dialup users. So, if that's any help, there might be something in the way your getty handles buffering (if there is such as thing); I use agetty. ------------------------------ From: carlos@interport.net (Carlos Dominguez) Subject: afio stupid question Date: 2 Oct 1994 16:34:09 -0400 ..I just switched to afio from tar, and am pleased so far. BUt I could not figure out how to do a diff run from tape to filesystem to check the integrity of my backup. I looked at the man pages.. didn't mention "diff" at all. hints, ideas and polite rtfms with chapter and verse are welcomed :) -- __ __ __ | .__. __. :::: Carlos Dominguez - proprietor - sysadmin | __| | | | | |__ :::: carlos@basselope.com |__ |__| | | |__| .__| :::: Basselope *nix systems --------------------------- Internet services consulting is our forte ------------------------------ From: sols7520@mach1.wlu.ca (Serge Solski u) Subject: How do you see who logged in? Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 20:17:05 GMT Early this morning, someone dialed into my Linux system and logged-in. I know they were on for a while, because I could hear my hard-drive thrashing away. I was too ill (some sort of flu thing) to attend to my computer, but I thought I could see how they logged in later. The only thing I could find, was that someone dialed in at 4:30 am. It doesn't say who (I forget which file this was in.) Is there a file somewhere that keeps track of who logs in and when? -Mark -- "Key chuckles. 'If Skinny Puppy, in terms of the movie _Alien_, is a chest-burster, then Doubting Thomas is more of a face-hugger,' he informs, as if that were an explanation." -Keyboard, Jan '92 ------------------------------ From: feksa@panix.com (Istvan Fekete) Subject: Removable Hard Disk Support Date: 1 Oct 1994 00:30:52 -0400 What types of removable hard disks are supported under Linux? E.g. Iomega 105/150 MB models SyQuest 44/88/105/200/270 MB models Bernoulli Box 35/65/90/105/150 MB models (This is pretty much all I've heard of.) Thanks for any help. Feksa ------------------------------ From: armstron@fenton.cs.ucdavis.edu (Matthew Aaron Armstrong) Subject: Re: Printcap from hell Date: 02 Oct 1994 20:42:26 GMT In article <36n57v$24v@interport.net> carlos@interport.net (Carlos Dominguez) writes: Jean Baril (baril@phoque.info.uqam.ca) wrote: : The printer is online, ie, things like "cat >/dev/lp1 hello.txt" : works ok... read the "Printing-HOWTO" and re-read it again ;) then get the apsfilter package aps48.tgz install it, follow the instructions. It will work wonders for you :) -- Carlos Dominguez - proprietor - sysadmin carlos@basselope.com I got apsfilter (see comp.linux.announce for a recent upgrade) and, while it now works like a charm, I'd caution anyone using it to be VERY warry of the printcap entries it sticks in your /etc/printcap file. I spent an entire day to find the following out: apsfilter installation puts printcap entries of the form: lp|lp2|deskjet-letter-auto-mono|deskjet auto mono:\ :lp=/dev/lp1:\ :sd=/usr/spool/deskjet:\ :lf=/usr/spool/deskjet/log:\ :af=/usr/spool/deskjet/acct:\ :if=/usr/local/lib/apsfilter/filter/aps-deskjet-letter-auto-mono:\ :mx#0:\ :sh: Into your /etc/printcap. The entry looked EXACTLY like the above entry but failed to work on my system (a page with a dribble of nonsense always printed before the real thing). Solution: Eliminate all the whitespace and continuation characters (\) in the entry, and then re-format it yourself, with tabs beginning each line and no spaces after the continuation slashes. This solved the problem for me anyway. I hope my hours of frustration helps someone else. -- | Matt Armstrong Successfully installing and using Linux at home | armstron@cs.ucdavis.edu makes my CS classes a breeze! ------------------------------ From: jgotts@jgotts.ccs.itd.umich.edu (John E. Gotts) Subject: Re: /sbin/hostname on 1.1.45- Date: 1 Oct 1994 06:23:34 GMT Riku Saikkonen (riku.saikkonen@compart.fi) wrote: : How to fix the problem: Remove the above commands and put just : hostname reston.cber.nih.gov : there. -- But that causes problems. One of which (the only one I really care about) is the login sequence gets screwed up: jgotts.ccs.itd.umich.edu login: instead of: jgotts login: My solution for this was to use the new hostname program and the old domain- name program in my /etc/rc.d/rc.M: /bin/hostname jgotts /bin/domainname.old ccs.itd.umich.edu This should resolve one of the most recently asked questions around here (besides "How do I configure my X server?" and a few others). -- John Gotts (jgotts@umich.edu) 73 de N8QDW URL: http://www.umich.edu/~jgotts GE -d+ H s+: g-- p? !au a-- w+ v C++++ UL++++ P+>++ L++ 3- E--- N+++ K- !W M-- V-- -po+(---) Y+ t+ 5 j+ R- G? tv b+ D B- e+ u--- h f+ r n- y? ------------------------------ From: s010dls@alpha.wright.edu () Subject: tar help Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 20:37:43 GMT I'm having trouble with tar. When I try to us it, all I get is: tar: can't open /dev/rmt0 : No such device or address Why does it say this? I looked for /dev/rmt0 and it's there. 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