From: Digestifier To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Sun, 16 Oct 94 23:13:52 EDT Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #206 Linux-Admin Digest #206, Volume #2 Sun, 16 Oct 94 23:13:52 EDT Contents: Re: Xfig (wong tsang han) Re: On PPP I can FTP but not SMTP (Al Longyear) Re: talkd does NOT work; where to find patches? (Sami M{kel{) Re: Need XF3.1 compiled Mosaic (Karsten Steffens) HELP for HDB-UUCP via TCP/IP (Thomas Rose) Re: PPP documents anywhere? (Al Longyear) Re: Xfig (wong tsang han) Loopback problem (Guy Beaver) Re: [Q] 4M -> 8M RAM worth it? (Tang Ting Fook) Re: formatting tapes (Joel M. Hoffman) Help Setting up mail (Douglas Rankin) Re: Help Setting up mail (Douglas Rankin) Re: Cron Problems - Script runs from shell but not cron (Patrick Schaaf) Re: Big IDE- fdisk 'different phys/log...' (Delman Lee) XFree86 and fonts (Michael Esler) Re: XFree86-3.1 - Whoopee! (Dan Pop) Re: Please don't post security holess... (Matthew Dharm) olwm & XFree 3.1 (Chi-Chung Hui) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mpewth@leonis.nus.sg (wong tsang han) Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.i386unix Subject: Re: Xfig Date: 13 Oct 1994 03:19:18 GMT jon m (icqo409@iupui.edu) wrote: : In article <36tg1pE8uq@uni-erlangen.de>, : Uwe Bonnes wrote: : >Look at the messages of the last time. This has been answered many times : >before: : >There's a cyclic reference in the application-defaults : NOW. why does just about EVERY blasted X program have this in their : app-defaults!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (a cyclic reference) Ok, so where can I get the 'message of the last time'?? Is there an archive of this newsgroup somewhere on the net?? Please give some pointers! BTW, where is this cyclic reference in the app-defaults?? NOTE: xfig2.1.8 runs fine on my DEC 3000/300X, but the same xfig2.1.8 on my Linux just eats up all the memory and swap space!!! HELP!! -- [*]----------------------------------[*]---------------------------------[*] | Wong Tsang Han | | | National University of Singapore | | | e-mail: mpewth@leonis.nus.sg | | [*]----------------------------------[*]---------------------------------[*] Only a few good things in Life comes free, Linux is one of them. ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.ppp From: longyear@netcom.com (Al Longyear) Subject: Re: On PPP I can FTP but not SMTP Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 02:41:55 GMT bini@cli.di.unipi.it (Michele Bini) writes: >I just installed PPP 2.1.1 on two Linux boxes, to setup a >point-to-point modem link (with no Internet connection). >The two systems are referred to as cassandra and pegasus in the >following. >The following work: > ftp > telnet > rlogin > finger >But the following don't: > talk (exits complaining with an "aborted talkd write: network is > unreachable" immediately after having sent the talk request to > the other machine talkd (the other machine rings, then talk > exits)) "network is unreachable" is an error in your routes. It comes from one place and one place only. It only comes from the networking software, AND NOT PPP. Check that you have a route to the target IP address. Both machines must have a route to the other. Make sure that you haven't done something stupid such as putting your host name on the loopback address (127.0.0.1). > smail on smtp (when a message is sent from, say, cassandra, it > arrives to pegasus, but something goes wrong, and it's > not delivered. However, on cassandra, root receives a > mail messages, originating from MAIL-DAEMOD@pegasus, > showing a log about an smtp transfer which seems to > imply that the message arrived to pegasus, but then, > while pegasus was trying to do something in reply, > network went down ("network is unreachable" again)) See above. Same reason. -- Al Longyear longyear@netcom.com ------------------------------ From: samakela@spt.fi (Sami M{kel{) Subject: Re: talkd does NOT work; where to find patches? Date: 16 Oct 1994 23:15:22 +0100 Reply-To: samakela@spt.fi Andrew Robert Ellsworth (are1@ritz.cec.wustl.edu) wrote: : In article <1994Oct12.161924.25801@umr.edu>, Jim Ockers wrote: : >The linux box will receive talk connections from other hosts but always : >fails when trying to establish the connection. Also it always fails when : >attempting to initiate a talk connection. Essentially I can listen but : >I can't talk unless the "talkee" is on localhost. : > : >I am 100% confident that the problem is with the Linux talk daemon, : >because all of the others can make talk connections amongst themselves : >which work quite well. The only one that will not communicate is linux. : Before you go off the deep end and cause a fuss, could you post the error : message you're getting? If it's something like "can't bind to control socket", : then you need to put an entry for yourself in /etc/hosts. I'm running a SLIP : connection, and I had the exact same problems you're describing when trying to : initiate a talk session, and adding myself to /etc/hosts (not as loopback, but : as your hostname + your IP) solved the problem. : Let me know if this works. : Andy Ellsworth : are1@cec.wustl.edu ------------------------------ From: karsten@kshome.ruhr.de (Karsten Steffens) Subject: Re: Need XF3.1 compiled Mosaic Date: 14 Oct 1994 08:04:14 GMT X11R5 and X11R6 are slightly incompatable on the source level - that's not astonishing. For instance try to compile the Motif Xterm wich lies on sunsite in .../X11/xutils/terms/mxterm-R5-color.tar.Z. If you tweak it to read the R5-includefiles it comiles ok. If you let it take the R6-includefiles it will fail in several subroutines due to changed definition of some X-intrinsics. (This example is academic, because even if you succeed to compile mxterm with R6 you won't be able to link it, though. I just mention to show an example where existing R5 software is definitely incompatable with R6 on the source level.) -- ==================> Dr.Karsten Steffens <===================== karsten@kshome.ruhr.de | steffens@ikp.uni-muenster.de Marl - close to Recklinghausen | Institut fuer Kernphysik North of the Ruhrgebiet | Westf.Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster ------------------------------ From: tom@vulcan.owl.de (Thomas Rose) Subject: HELP for HDB-UUCP via TCP/IP Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 13:57:33 GMT Hi ! I have a big problem ! Could somebody please, please send me his systems, dialers, devices Files when he uses hdb-uucp via tcp/ip. Please send also the neddes conf Files for the remote Machine ! Thanks Tom -- Thomas Rose Jakbo-Kneip-Strasse 92 40595 Duesseldorf Germany Telefon: +49 5251 370231 | +49 211 707484 E-Mail : tom@vulcan.owl.de ------------------------------ From: longyear@netcom.com (Al Longyear) Subject: Re: PPP documents anywhere? Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 02:49:18 GMT sols7520@mach1.wlu.ca (Serge Solski u) writes: > Are there any documents, files, how-to's, faqs, etc., anywhere >that helps with the install of PPP? Everthing that I've found states that >PPP is new and no documentation is developed yet. Surely something must >exist by now. Probably the best set of instructions on installation are in the package itself. You will find a new set of instructions (well, slightly changed) on ftp.netcom.com:/pub/longyear/ppp-2.1.2/ppp-2.1.2b.tar.gz. In addition, there is a FAQ, or what I could derrive in one evening of recalling the common questions, in the same package. There is a "howto". It is part of the Net-2-HOWTO. I could no see writing one for just PPP. There is a chapter in the Network Admin Guide (NAG). The package includes a man page. This is good as well. Most of the documentation for chat is in the man page. There is a general PPP FAQ for the protocol, in the comp.protocols.ppp group. This is archived on rtfm.mit.edu. -- Al Longyear longyear@netcom.com ------------------------------ From: mpewth@leonis.nus.sg (wong tsang han) Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.i386unix Subject: Re: Xfig Date: 14 Oct 1994 08:58:41 GMT wong tsang han (mpewth@leonis.nus.sg) wrote: : jon m (icqo409@iupui.edu) wrote: : : In article <36tg1pE8uq@uni-erlangen.de>, : : Uwe Bonnes wrote: : : >Look at the messages of the last time. This has been answered many times : : >before: : : >There's a cyclic reference in the application-defaults : : NOW. why does just about EVERY blasted X program have this in their : : app-defaults!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (a cyclic reference) : Ok, so where can I get the 'message of the last time'?? Is there an : archive of this newsgroup somewhere on the net?? Please give some pointers! : BTW, where is this cyclic reference in the app-defaults?? : NOTE: xfig2.1.8 runs fine on my DEC 3000/300X, but the same xfig2.1.8 on : my Linux just eats up all the memory and swap space!!! Ok, I have looked at the app-default files of xfig, there are 3 files ad follows: Fig this is a soft-link to Fig-color Fig-color this has a "include Fig" Fig-standard this is the actual Fig file, I think.... relink Fig to Fig-standard or remove Fig and rename Fig-standard to Fig. This will fix the problem. Cheers!!! Now all I need is a 21" monitor and a superfast graphics card.... -- [*]----------------------------------[*]---------------------------------[*] | Wong Tsang Han | | | National University of Singapore | | | e-mail: mpewth@leonis.nus.sg | | [*]----------------------------------[*]---------------------------------[*] Only a few good things in Life comes free, Linux is one of them. ------------------------------ From: beaver@teton.larc.nasa.gov (Guy Beaver) Subject: Loopback problem Date: 14 Oct 1994 13:22:09 GMT My goal is to get a SLIP going into a shell account with TIA. I've read through the NET-2-HOWTO, and the TIA FAQ, and have (apparently) successfully run a dip script, which appears to work. If I try ifconfig, I get something like: sl0 Link encap AMPR AX.25 HWaddr inet addr 192.0.2.1 P-t-P 128.155.17.47 Mask 255.255.255.0 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING MTU 1500 Metric 0 Rx packets 0 errors 0 dropped 0 overrun 0 Tx packets 0 errors 0 dropped 0 overrun 0 However, I've apparently installed or configured something incorrectly, because I can't even ping myself. If I try "ping localhost" or "ping 127.0.0.1" I get: ping: unknown protocol icmp. Or if I try "telnet localhost" or "telnet 127.0.0.1" I get: telnet: tcp/telnet: unknown service. Can someone shed some light on this, or suggest a diagnostic to reveal what I'm missing? Thanks, GM Beaver -- Guy M. Beaver * -- G & A Technical Software, Inc. (GATS) * / / __ beaver@hops.larc.nasa.gov * | |/ |ATS (804) 864-5763 * \___/ ------------------------------ From: tftang@kuanyin.pc.my (Tang Ting Fook) Subject: Re: [Q] 4M -> 8M RAM worth it? Date: 16 Oct 1994 15:03:51 GMT Dan Pop (danpop@cernapo.cern.ch) wrote: : In rcas1@giaeb.cc.monash.edu.au (Robert Casiano) writes: : >I`ve just installed linux at home. My pc is 486DX33 with 4M of RAM. : >It looks good but x runs very very slow. Thus, it swaps a lot to : >hard disk, and I fear that its life span is being shortened : >considerably. So I might buy more memory. With my tight budget, I : >could only afford another 4M. Question is, is it worth it to buy the : >4M now, or just wait for probably another year and get 16M?n If I : >buy the 4M now, wuold it improve things a lot, or not much : >improvement? : Upgrade now. You'll see a quantum leap in X performance. The difference : between 4M and 8M is far more significant than the one between 8M and 16M, : IMHO. I agree with Dan. I just upgraded mine to 8 MB and X runs really smooth. Before when I have only 4 MB, starting and application often take ages. But now it is almost instantaneous. Also moving the windows around is fast not like when I have only 4 MB. You have to wait a while before the window moves. : Dan : -- : Dan Pop : CERN, CN Division : Email: danpop@cernapo.cern.ch : Mail: CERN - PPE, Bat. 31 R-004, CH-1211 Geneve 23, Switzerland -- TF Tang (tftang@kuanyin.pc.my) ------------------------------ From: joel@wam.umd.edu (Joel M. Hoffman) Subject: Re: formatting tapes Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 17:33:23 GMT This is probably an ignorant question, but why is it so hard to format tapes under Linux? -Joel (joel@wam.umd.edu) -- ============================================================================= |_|~~ Germany, Europe. 1944. "The diameter of the bomb was 30 centimeters, __|~| 16 Million DEAD. and the diameter of its destruction, about 7 meters, and in it four killed and 11 wounded. cnc Bosnia, Europe. 1994. And around these, in a larger circle of pain cnc HOW MANY MORE? and time, are scattered two hospitals and one cemetery. But the young woman who was buried in the place from where she came, at a distance of more than than 100 kilometers, enlarges the circle considerably. And the lonely man who is mourning her death in a distant country incorporates into the circle the whole world. And I won't speak of the cry of the orphans that reaches God's chair and from there makes the circle endless and godless." ============================================================================= Tell Clinton to stop the genocide: president@whitehouse.gov ------------------------------ From: hitman@dgs.dgsys.com (Douglas Rankin) Subject: Help Setting up mail Date: 12 Oct 1994 15:23:24 -0400 I am trying to get mail setup on my system at work. Right now I can send mail to remote hosts and to people local on the machine. the problem is that my machine can not recieve mail from local hosts. Every time I send mail to myself it gets bouces back. It say unknow host or unable to resolve host name. Is this a problem wirth my mailer or is it because the name server I am using does not have my address list correctly. What do I need to do inorder to recieve mail from remote machine.any help would be appreciated. I am using smail!! Doug " The Hitman" Rankin hitman@dgs.dgsys.com ------------------------------ From: hitman@dgs.dgsys.com (Douglas Rankin) Subject: Re: Help Setting up mail Date: 12 Oct 1994 15:39:31 -0400 Douglas Rankin (hitman@dgs.dgsys.com) wrote: : I am trying to get mail setup on my system at work. Right now I can : send mail to remote hosts and to people local on the machine. the problem : is that my machine can not recieve mail from local hosts. Every time That is suposed to be a remote host not a local one. Sorry!!!! : Doug " The Hitman" Rankin : hitman@dgs.dgsys.com : ------------------------------ From: bof@wg.saar.de (Patrick Schaaf) Subject: Re: Cron Problems - Script runs from shell but not cron Date: 15 Oct 1994 10:17:50 -0000 mfaurot@phzzzt.atww.org (Michael Faurot) writes: [snip] >So, is this a quirk of bash or of crond? I had this happen some days ago; one of my scripts, which ran perfectly started by hand or from vixie-cron, stopped working when I switched to dcron. I was unable to strip down the script to a point where I understood what was happening - bash was definitely acting wierd. The bug is too esoteric for me to track down, I simply solved the problem by upgrading to a newer version of bash (from 1.12.?? to 1.14.??) dcron was definitely not the culprit, bash was. Patrick ------------------------------ From: delman@mipg.upenn.edu (Delman Lee) Subject: Re: Big IDE- fdisk 'different phys/log...' Date: 11 Oct 1994 18:11:35 GMT [*] Mark Lord writes: ] kfandre@comp..uark.edu (Kevin C. Fandre) writes: >Does Xfree86 3.1 "feel" like a memory hog to anyone? I've recompiled >everything I regularly use, fvwm and all, to use the X11R6 libraries >and it still feels like the hard drive has to thrash a bit to even run >a few measly xterms and xtetris. Running term mosaic( I havent I'm using only the servers and the fonts from 3.1. Everything else is from 2.1.1 and works fine. I've upgraded the servers because I was needing a couple of the new features in 3.1 for my clgd6225 notebook. Dan -- Dan Pop CERN, CN Division Email: danpop@cernapo.cern.ch Mail: CERN - PPE, Bat. 31 R-004, CH-1211 Geneve 23, Switzerland ------------------------------ From: mdharm@ooze.cs.hmc.edu (Matthew Dharm) Subject: Re: Please don't post security holess... Date: 11 Oct 1994 18:27:25 GMT Well.. I've offended at least one person. So, I appoligize. Offence was not my intent. But, getting back to the subject of security holes, I have to admit that I used to break into systems. Back in my HS days (I don't have any time anymore). One of the ways that I found holes in systems was by talking to my friends who also did the same thing. Therefore, I think that it is a perfectly reasonable conclusion to say that (there is a good probability that) the first person to know about a hole is a cracker (thanks to whoever posted the correct terminology). In my experience, I knew about the holes that I used before the sysadmins did. I used to think that breaking in was harmless too. Lately I guess I become sort of paranoid. My system is on the net. It doesn't have very much, but it's mine. It's my property, and in a way, it is my virtual living space. My cyberspace side of myself lives there. If you are breaking into my system, you are breaking into my dwelling. So what if you just look around? Does that make you feel any less violated? I have to draw one exception/line here. As was pointed out earlier, (someone said this, I forgot who) if you crack my system, and do nothing else but let me know about my hole, you better believe that I'm gonna be grateful. But, once you've cracked my security, how can I guarantee that you haven't done anything else? I'm a freshman in college now. I have freshman lab. And there I use a simple rule of thumb: Once I'm in the lab, everything I touch is potentially contaminated. Either by me or by the guy before me. Therefore, I don't scratch my nose when it itches. I don't use the phone. Maybe my hands are perfectly clean. But suppose they're not. The potential harm is too great. So it is with crackers. Yes, there are probably some folks out there who crack security and are harmless. But what about those who aren't? The risk of letting in the latter makes it necessary for me to be paranoid about everyone, including the former. I'm sorry I have to be like that. But, I have to feel safe. I think that is a basic right. That's why my system asks for a password, and why your systems do too. I don't think I'm being facist or extremist to worry about things like this. It is a part of life, like guns and drugs. Now I'm up to $0.04. Soon I'll be bankrupt. Matthew Dharm mdharm@hmc.edu ------------------------------ From: cchui@xvnews.unconfigured.domain (Chi-Chung Hui) Subject: olwm & XFree 3.1 Reply-To: cchui@cs.ust.hk Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 09:38:04 GMT I upgraded my Linux box to XFree 3.1. Everything seems fine except one: when I am running 16 bpp mode with olwm, all the windows (e.g., border, openwin-menu) cannot display any colour except black and white. How can I fix this problem? I am using Linux v1.1.53 + XFree v3.1 + Xview v3.2 + S3-805 display card. Thank you. C.C. Hui The Hong Kong University of Science and Technology ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Admin-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.admin) via: Internet: Linux-Admin@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux End of Linux-Admin Digest ******************************