From: Digestifier To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Mon, 12 Sep 94 18:13:38 EDT Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #54 Linux-Admin Digest #54, Volume #2 Mon, 12 Sep 94 18:13:38 EDT Contents: Re: How do I test my mouse installation worked? (Pat McManus) Re: Doom HAS no pixel doubling (Nieuwpoort van RV) patching the kernel (Matthew S. Crocker) Bus Logic SCSI Problem (Marten Liebster) Re: DOMM 4 Linux /X is OUT !!! (Mark A. Davis) Re: DOMM 4 Linux /X is OUT !!! (Highlander) Re: patching the kernel (Ralph Sims) Re: Price/Performance of Overdrive versus Pentium (Peter Suetterlin) Re: A couple of Linux problems... (Greg Cisko) Re: Smallest Linux Distribution (Dirk Eddelbuettel) Re: fvwm startup problems (Bill McCarthy) Re: Slow curses - is there a better/faster curses? (Kai Petzke) How do I change my Configuration??? (Tony Schwartz) Re: mosaic for linux? (Bruce_A._Bollinger@transarc.com) Putting Linux on 20 PC's at a Time (David Hawkins) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mcmanus@cunnin.res.wpi.edu (Pat McManus) Subject: Re: How do I test my mouse installation worked? Date: 12 Sep 1994 12:24:34 GMT last time on comp.os.linux.admin, jhobby@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM said.. >I have installed the Slackware distribution of Linux 1.0.9. The docs >clearly state that the 'selection' utility may not work with a bus mouse. >Fine. I would like to verify that my mouse is installed correctly though. >Are there any utilities that support the mouse? I have not installed any >xwindows stuff. Is it possible to disable the program that that selection >is having a conflict with? > slackware 2.0 comes with a mousetest utility if you installed the svgalib stuff... /usr/lib/svgalib/mousetest is the usual location.. -Pat -- Patrick R. McManus Computer Science 1996 NYSERNet, Inc. mcmanus@nysernet.org mcmanus@wpi.edu Check out the cunnin.res.wpi.edu gopher, web, and ftp servers. My loyalty is to the truth and my ideals; not to expediency or tradition. ------------------------------ From: rvvnieuw@cs.vu.nl (Nieuwpoort van RV) Subject: Re: Doom HAS no pixel doubling Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 12:51:53 GMT bcr@k9.via.term.none (Bill C. Riemers) writes: : >>>>> "Christopher" == Christopher Wiles writes: loads of trash deleted... : 2. Fvwm doesn't work properly with resized screens. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ it does with me (et4000 driver) ------------------------------ From: matthew@crocker.com (Matthew S. Crocker) Subject: patching the kernel Date: 12 Sep 1994 12:56:05 GMT I know this is stupid but: What is the command I use to patch the kernel? I typed cd /usr/src/ patch >In article <34q113$2sht@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, Mike Loseke (mike@bob.sc.colostate.edu) writes: >>In article <34pssk$h3k@chopin.udel.edu>, >>Jason Aaron Fager wrote: >>>Vianney Govers wrote: >>>>Sebastian W. Bunka (seb@i102pc1.vu-wien.ac.at) wrote: >>> >>>>: X-DOOM for Linux is OUT !!!!!!!!! >>> >>>Anybody got feedback on how much memory is required for "decent" play? >>>(I.E., as fast as running it on DOS?) >I too would like to hear how it compares to the DOS version in terms of speed >etc... on the same machine (486/33, 8 MB, 1 MB local bus graphics in my case) OK- I have both MS-"DOS" and Linux DOOM. My machine is a 486 33 DX with 16 MB of 0 wait X 32 RAM. Adaptec 16 bit SCSI controller, Orchid Pro Designer II ET-4000 16bit SVGA card, Sound Blaster Original, etc. The game absolutely flies under MS-"DOS", I can't even tell how many frames per second, but at least 6. The game is completely unplayable under Linux, with a frame rate of 0.5 per second (the is the fastest in 640x480 X, in 1024x768 it is slower). So, the "requirement" for local bus/accelerated video is no joke..... -- /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk,VA (804)-461-5001x431 | | Director/SysAdmin | Information Systems | mark@taylor.infi.net | \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/ ------------------------------ From: tabaer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Highlander) Subject: Re: DOMM 4 Linux /X is OUT !!! Date: 12 Sep 1994 13:52:48 GMT In article <1994Sep12.122248.12528@taylor.infi.net>, Mark A. Davis wrote: >[previous n+1 levels of quoted material deleted for brevity] :) >OK- I have both MS-"DOS" and Linux DOOM. My machine is a 486 33 DX with >16 MB of 0 wait X 32 RAM. Adaptec 16 bit SCSI controller, Orchid >Pro Designer II ET-4000 16bit SVGA card, Sound Blaster Original, etc. > >The game absolutely flies under MS-"DOS", I can't even tell how many >frames per second, but at least 6. > >The game is completely unplayable under Linux, with a frame rate of 0.5 >per second (the is the fastest in 640x480 X, in 1024x768 it is slower). > >So, the "requirement" for local bus/accelerated video is no joke..... Hmmm... You should be getting better performance than that. Are you playing with or without sound in the Linux version? (Then again, you should also be getting more than 6 fps out of the DOS version...) Without sound, the Linux and DOS version of Doom are almost identical speed-wise on my home machine (486DX50, 16MB+32MB swap, FD 1680 SCSI + separate IDE card for DOS, no-name OEM 90c30-based ISA video, and PAS-16). I'd guess I get between 15 and 20 fps under Linux in 1024x768. Play is somewhat slower on my machine at work (486DX33, similar memory, IDE disk only, S3-based VLB video, and no sound). I haven't recompiled my 1.1.0 kernel with the 2.90-2 sound drivers, so I don't know how much sound slows things down. YMMV, of course. --Troy +--------------------+------------------------------------------------+ | Troy A. Baer | "My soul is painted like wings of butterflies, | | Senior, Aero. Engr.| Fairy tales of yesterday, grow but never die, | | DOS?!? Try Linux!! | I can fly, my friends!" --Brian May | +--------------------+------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: ralphs@halcyon.halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) Subject: Re: patching the kernel Date: 12 Sep 1994 14:01:38 GMT matthew@crocker.com (Matthew S. Crocker) writes: >What is the command I use to patch the kernel? >I typed >cd /usr/src/ >patch --- ------------------------------ From: cisko@d0tokensun.fnal.gov (Greg Cisko) Subject: Re: A couple of Linux problems... Date: 12 Sep 1994 14:33:15 GMT Reply-To: cisko@d0tokensun.fnal.gov In article lbt@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca, kurt@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Kurt Schafer) writes: > Also, when I boot from floppy (linux) there is a section where it says > 'Calibrating Delay loop' 25.04 Bogomips... > > When I boot from hard drive though, immediately after the Bogomips count I get > a 'Failed' message on the next line... > > What is failing ? ANd how can I fix it ? You probably do not have the SAME kernel on the floppy, that you have on your HD. > .. > Thanks for any advice. > ------------------------------ From: eddelbud@qed.uucp (Dirk Eddelbuettel) Subject: Re: Smallest Linux Distribution Date: 12 Sep 1994 14:16:01 GMT In article <3515rj$at8@agate.berkeley.edu>, David Petrou wrote: > Hi. I'm looking for the smallest linux distribution available to >install on my computer. I'm looking for the Bare Essentials only. What I'm >trying to do is get the kernel, /bin, cc and a few other essential tools >on a file system so I can play around and install all major unix programs >(like Xfree, GCC, Emacs, etc...) on my own to get a lot of experience with >unix. (Besides, it seems like a lot of fun and a good way to learn.) Get the MCC distribution. Built at Manchester Computing Center for their Unix and C classes, it fits on 8 HD disks containing all these essentials (kernel, gcc, print stuff, tcp/ip networking, flex, gawk, gprof, kermit, emacs (!!), gdbm, ...). It is small, compact and reliable. Just great. I used it in late April and have installed everything else on top of it at great ease. It comes with a superb Installation Manual (called "interim" in .dvi or postscript or ascii format. You find everything at ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/distributions/MCC/1.0+/ The doc is in distributions/MCC/1.0+/documentation/ Regards, -- Dirk Eddelbuettel ------------------------------ From: bmccarth@gulfaero.com (Bill McCarthy) Subject: Re: fvwm startup problems Date: 12 Sep 1994 12:59:46 -0400 In article <3508rc$p9d@news1.digex.net> srini@igt.com (Srini Seetharam) writes: >I am trying to setup fvwm on my linux machine. >I have looked through the man pages and tried modifying >the xinitrc and the fvwmrc files. > >What I want it to do is start some programs such as an >xterm and xbiff and a clock after I log into the >X console. > >Is this possible with fvwm ? >I know twm can do this but I have had other problems trying >to set it up. fvwm is great but I need to figure out >how to autostart some programs. > Here's an example of my .xinitrc - that's the file I use to start X and load xprogs auto: fvwm & xearth & xld & - a bin file that loads xload and sets fn/bg colors and geometry xclk & - ditto for xclock exec xterm -C name console -fn 9x15bold -fg blue This is from memory, but pretty much does it. For an xterm you can create a bin file that calls the xterm, sets the colors and geometry and then call the file in the .xinitrc. Hope this helps. Bill McCarthy bmccarth@gulfaero.com "Isn't it pretty to think so." TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT\__Jake Barnes___________________________ LinuX + i486dx2/66 usual disclaimer ------------------------------ From: wpp@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de (Kai Petzke) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Slow curses - is there a better/faster curses? Date: 12 Sep 94 15:09:09 GMT jamesd@teleport.com (James Deibele) writes: >Console output under Linux was very quick and I'm sure X performance is >pretty good. But curses performance is a little sluggish and adding >lines near the bottom of the screen is a real killer - curses seems to >clear the screen with blank lines adds the new text. What do you mean? Elvis performance under X or elvis performance on console or curses performance under X/console? Elvis does not use curses, it has its own terminal interface. This is *very* fast on Linux the console. However, in an X-Term, scrolling is very slow when you do not have accelerated video, and that affects the insertion and deletion of lines with elvis. Kai -- Kai Petzke | How fast can computers get? Technical University of Berlin | Berlin, Germany | Sol 9, of course, on Star Trek. wpp@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de | ------------------------------ From: tony@teleport.com (Tony Schwartz) Subject: How do I change my Configuration??? Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 21:15:53 This is a rookie question so be thus advised: I have been using Linux for 4 days now and am impressed. However, I can only get my system to recognize my CDROM (Mitsumi) when I boot off floppy. I did the entire installation and have ran the configure option that is in the setup program. Is there someplace that I need to move a file or something??? Please help... Second problem: I cant get the X windows stuff to work. When I use any of several Xconfig files that are set up for my exact hardware, I get an error saying something about No Graphics Device Defined (Something like that). Your help is greatly appreciated. Tony Schwartz Portland, OR ------------------------------ From: Bruce_A._Bollinger@transarc.com Subject: Re: mosaic for linux? Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 13:26:21 -0400 jacek@eng1.uconn.edu (Jacek A. Ponarski) writes: > Hi, > Is there a mosaic version for linux. Or maybe some other w3 client. In the doc directory of the Linux archive sites (sunsite.unc.edu: /pub/Linux/doc), there is a great text file called linux software map (lsm-05jun94 latest). You don't even have to use an editor to find the information you are looking for (and more): Location1: sunsite.unc.edu: /pub/Linux/system/Network/info-systems/mosaic-2.0.tar.z (700000) Location1 There you go! I currently am using the term aware version. IT IS GREAT!!!!!! -Bruce bruceb@transarc.com ------------------------------ From: dhawk@netcom.com (David Hawkins) Subject: Putting Linux on 20 PC's at a Time Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 17:18:39 GMT I have 5 classrooms with 20 PC's in each classroom. (Different make/model/everything in each classrooom. No CD-ROM drives). We plan on teaching on DOS one week, Linux the next, going back at forth on a weekly basis. So we need to rebuild on a weekly basis. Some of the classrooms have a Novell sever, others are Windows NT, and the new ones coming up will have Windows for Workgroups. Rebuilding DOS is not my problem, Linux is. What I had planned for the initial install of Linux was Step 1: boot from the scsinet and umsdos144 disks Step 2: fdisk Step 3: run a modified 'setup' script with my answers already in there [since setup is a shell script I can modify it] Step 3: mount a partition from a UNIX box (HP or Sun) Step 4: un'tar dumps made to the UNIX partition A similar process could be used to rebuild the Linux stuff after the class. (Classes are in System Adminstration so a rebuild is necessary). I'm open to ideas on how to do the initial install better, but with the above scheme my first problem is with Step 2: fdisk fdisk is menu driven, which would be a pain to do 20 times in a row, especialy since I'll be doing the same partitions each time. later, david -- David Hawkins dhawk@netcom.com "It's not the world that's got so much worse but the news coverage that's got so much better." -- G. K. 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