From: Digestifier To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Sun, 3 Oct 93 22:13:07 EDT Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #283 Linux-Activists Digest #283, Volume #6 Sun, 3 Oct 93 22:13:07 EDT Contents: Re: LILO Default to MSDOS? (Warrior Of Darkness) Re: How can one switch between DOS and LINUX? (David Barr) Re: Oakdriver for X (Benny Holmgren) Telnet hangs FIXED! (Brett Michaels) compile problem? trivia.. (Jeff Stern) Install Slackware Problem. (Chan Chi Chiu) Re: compile problem? trivia.. (JEFF EPLER) Brauche Hilfe zu p2c / Linux SLS 1.02 (mookie@nostaki.toppoint.de) Re: SoftLanding Message (Xavier Gachon) Re: Forward: QIC-80 (Dave Burgess) Re: Linux Where, Space? (Hasan Diwan) Re: Windows NT, Linux and DOS all together? (Mark A. Davis) Re: HARDWARE: Mitsumi LU005S CD-ROM anyone? (Walter Doerr) Re: Install Slackware Problem. (Aron Bonar) Re: Windows NT, Linux and DOS all together? (Aron Bonar) Re: Busmice (Jerome Lacroix) Re: compile problem? trivia.. (rich@mulvey.com) Re: Oakdriver for X (Steve Goldman) precompiled ext2 fs progs v0.3c released (Cameron L. Spitzer) Re: SoftLanding Message (Ideas for Brainstorming) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 16:26:18 CET From: Warrior Of Darkness Subject: Re: LILO Default to MSDOS? Greetings, I would also like to do what is needed to setup LILO to boot DOS by default, since my system is also used by DOS *puke* users who would prefer booting straight DOS without having to specify the OS explicitly on bootup. So if there is a possibility to do this, please post it here! Thx, DrAkHaI ------------------------------ From: davidb@stein3.u.washington.edu (David Barr) Subject: Re: How can one switch between DOS and LINUX? Date: 3 Oct 1993 17:05:16 GMT q00023@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU writes: >Dear everybody, >I would like to know how one can switch from DOS to LINUX at >different time. Like if I want to use DOS for one thing, later on I >want to use Linux. Do I have to reboot the computer and insert the >boot disk to do that? Please help me on that. >New to Linux, >Gabriel No, you can use LILO to rewrite the boot sector on your hard drive with a program that is run at boot time and lets you choose which partition to boot off of. LILO and it's docs are included with SLS. David ------------------------------ From: bigfoot@astrakan.hgs.se (Benny Holmgren) Subject: Re: Oakdriver for X Date: 3 Oct 1993 17:33:00 GMT Reply-To: bigfoot@astrakan.hgs.se In article 28dvmdINNpam@ford.ee.up.ac.za, nthirion@rkw-risc.cs.up.ac.za (OPV 5-51 - THE ORANGE FARM) writes: >Hello Linuxers > >I am looking for a oakdriver so that i can run X in color. Let me state it >this way, I have looked for one but could not find one and now I am >asking you if you have found one or maybe if you come across one if you >could send it to me. > >Thank you very much. 8-) > I'm running X in colour with an OAK videoboard. Found an Xfree386 that had been hacked to support it somewhere but I can't remember where. If you're interested i can send you the binary (dont have any sources). / Benny ------------------------------ From: brettm@access.digex.net (Brett Michaels) Subject: Telnet hangs FIXED! Date: 3 Oct 1993 14:10:19 -0400 Telnet is fixed for me under SLIP. Header compression needs to be turned off. It would be nice to have this in DIP/ifconfig :). Many Thanks to all those who send me mail! ------------------------------ From: jstern@aris.ss.uci.edu (Jeff Stern) Subject: compile problem? trivia.. Date: 3 Oct 93 18:30:03 GMT ===== main(v,c)char**c;{for(v[c++]="Hello, world!\n)"; (!!c)[*c]&&(v--||--c&&execlp(*c,*c,c[!!c]+!!c,!c)); **c=!c)write(!!*c,*c,!!**c);} ===== FYI: Anyone want to try compiling this on Linux0.99.12 with gcc 2.4.5? It only gets segmentation faults, but I know it works fine on other machines (decmips, for instance). When I call the input file "hello.c" and type "gcc hello.c -o hello", the problems are twofold: 1) First, if you just try to execute the executable (which has rwx permissions in all fields) it says "hello: command not found" so you have to say: ./hello. Isn't this kind of disadvantageous? 2) Secondly, even when you type ./hello, you get: HSegmentation fault (core dumped) which looks like it started to print this out, and then had problems. Comments, anyone? =========================================================================== Jeff Stern "Timex Sinclair UNIX.. coming soon to a dealer near you." =========================================================================== ------------------------------ From: ccchan@cs.cuhk.hk (Chan Chi Chiu) Subject: Install Slackware Problem. Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1993 04:40:00 GMT I've tried to install slackware but failed, here's detail. I've used fdisk in Linux to define Linux Native, Swap partition, then tried 'setup'. After a lot of questions, it seems that it starts copying files, but I always see 'Not enough spaces', 'Directory not exist' something like that. I don't know whether the problem comes from formatting harddisk in the setup process, as it seems that an error messages appear in the process. Can anyone tell me what I should do? thanks in advance. cheers, Charles Chan (ccchan@cs.cuhk.hk) ------------------------------ From: jepler@herbie.unl.edu (JEFF EPLER) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.lang.c.misc Subject: Re: compile problem? trivia.. Date: 3 Oct 1993 19:32:06 GMT Please do not use the comp.os.linux group -- It is scheduled to go away soon. jstern@aris.ss.uci.edu (Jeff Stern) writes: >===== >main(v,c)char**c;{for(v[c++]="Hello, world!\n)"; >(!!c)[*c]&&(v--||--c&&execlp(*c,*c,c[!!c]+!!c,!c)); >**c=!c)write(!!*c,*c,!!**c);} >===== >FYI: Anyone want to try compiling this on Linux0.99.12 with gcc 2.4.5? >It only gets segmentation faults, but I know it works fine on other >machines (decmips, for instance). When I call the input file "hello.c" >and type "gcc hello.c -o hello", the problems are twofold: >1) First, if you just try to execute the executable (which has > rwx permissions in all fields) it says "hello: command not found" > so you have to say: ./hello. Isn't this kind of disadvantageous? This is deliberate: It is a dos-ism to include the current directory in the path searched for executable files. There was a recent thread about this (misplaced) in some col group -- The issue is probably addressed in the FAQs of comp.unix.questions and/or comp.unix.shells >2) Secondly, even when you type ./hello, you get: >HSegmentation fault (core dumped) > which looks like it started to print this out, and then had problems. This can be compiled by gcc -fwritable-strings -o foo foo.c I didn't try to read the obfuscated code, but this appears to indicate that the program tried to write to the string "Hello, world!" which can apparently be forbidden. (By the ANSI standard? Or is -fwritable-strings needed to make GCC ansi-compliant? I don't know.) Please note that the question was originally asked about Linux, and I just tested the above on a sunOS with 2.4.5 GCC. I doubt that I've made a fool of myself in any signifigant manner, however. gcc without the -fwritable-strings on the sun failed just like it's supposed to under Linux. On the MIPS did you use GCC? The same version of GCC? Or did you use the vendor's cc? Followups to comp.lang.c -- This isn't really too appropriate to a comp.os.linux group. ------------------------------ From: mookie@nostaki.toppoint.de Subject: Brauche Hilfe zu p2c / Linux SLS 1.02 Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 05:04:10 GMT Hi ! Kann mir mal jemand einige kommentierte Programme mailen, die per p2c uebersetzbar sind ? (am Besten mit 'ner Zeile, wie man p2c und danach den Gnu aufzurufen hat...) Thanks, Andy Pohl [mookie@nostaki.toppoint.de] ------------------------------ From: shagshag@shagshag.frmug.fr.net (Xavier Gachon) Subject: Re: SoftLanding Message Date: 3 Oct 1993 18:30:13 +0100 Brett Michaels (brettm@access.digex.net) wrote: : Anyone know how to get rid of the softlanding message that appears just : before the login prompt? modify your /etc/issue ... one more but this respons help me to test my news package. -- shagshag@shagshag.frmug.fr.net shagshag:(1).40.30.04.68 login : new nuucp : no password ouverture d'un compte (ACTUELMENT EN TRAVAUX donc pas 24h/24, plutot 10h/24 ) ------------------------------ From: burgess@hrd769.brooks.af.mil (Dave Burgess) Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.bugs Subject: Re: Forward: QIC-80 Date: 3 Oct 1993 15:51:41 -0500 By the way, about two weeks ago, there was an announcement for a QIC-40/80 device driver that would let DOS back up the 386BSD partition using an image backup format. I have just used it to back my drive up, and I am please to say that version 1.1 (which is the most recent version) works at least as well as advertised. While this does not get a native *BSD driver for the tapes written, it does allow us to at leat back up the hard drive while we get it going. The program is available from ftp.uni-duisberg.de (I think). I have put version 1.1 up for anonymous FTP here in the pub directory. It is called rawdsk11.zip and is a DOS zip file. -- ====== TSgt Dave Burgess NCOIC AL/Management Information Systems Office Brooks AFB, TX ------------------------------ From: diwan@delphi.com (Hasan Diwan) Subject: Re: Linux Where, Space? Date: 3 Oct 1993 20:59:46 GMT Kerry J. Parson > Hasan Diwan Re: Linux Where, Space >1. This newsgroup is going away. Use one of comp.os.linux.help/announce/admin/misc/development.< Thank you for this information. >2. In c.o.l.help (at least), read the regularly posted article entitled (something like) READ THIS BEFORE POSTING. It will either tell you what you want to know, or tell you how to find out.< I've done that. --+Hasan+-- Fido: 1:109/349.9000 Internet: diwan@delphi.com 72704.1640@compuserve.com hasan_diwan@permanet.org Prodigy: nrsm79b (Beta-testing Mail Manager) ------------------------------ From: mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) Subject: Re: Windows NT, Linux and DOS all together? Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1993 20:51:33 GMT snail@lsl.co.uk writes: >Anyone know if you can or cannot have MSDOS/DRDOS, Windows NT and Linux all >on one PC? Why? Wait a few and you will be able to run Unix with Linux, MS-"DOS" under dosemu (or a separate partition), & MS-"Windows" under WINE (or under the MS-"DOS" partition). NT has almost 0 software which isn't just MS-"Windows" software.... -- /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk, VA (804)-461-5001x431 | | Sys.Administrator| Computer Services | mark@taylor.wyvern.com .uucp | \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/ ------------------------------ From: hikaru@infodn.rmi.de (Walter Doerr) Subject: Re: HARDWARE: Mitsumi LU005S CD-ROM anyone? Date: 3 Oct 93 17:44:25 GMT grant@nepahwin.cs.laurentian.ca (Grant R. Guenther) writes: [...] |Watch out, though, the patches on tsx-11 DO NOT support the LU005S. The |code in pl13 does. I'm using pl10, so I used the kernel patches from |mcd-0.3 and modified them for the mcd.c and mcd.h that are in the pl13 |source kit. What about support for the new Mitsumi FX001 doublespeed drive? Is the FX001 compatible to the LU005? What significance has the letter "S" anyway? Is this some kind of version "number" that is relevant (to the kernel software perhaps)? -Walter -- Walter Doerr =*= hikaru@infodn.rmi.de =*= FAX: +49 2421 66910 "The poor folks who only have 100MBytes of RAM five years from now may not be able to buffer a 16MB packet, but that's their tough luck." (John Gilmore on Mon, 10 Oct 88 18:10:21 PDT) ------------------------------ From: aron@tikal.ced.berkeley.edu (Aron Bonar) Subject: Re: Install Slackware Problem. Date: 3 Oct 1993 23:27:29 GMT In article , ccchan@cs.cuhk.hk (Chan Chi Chiu) writes: |> |> I've tried to install slackware but failed, here's detail. |> |> I've used fdisk in Linux to define Linux Native, Swap partition, then |> tried 'setup'. |> After a lot of questions, it seems that it starts copying files, but I |> always see 'Not enough spaces', 'Directory not exist' something like |> that. |> I don't know whether the problem comes from formatting harddisk in the |> setup process, as it seems that an error messages appear in the process. |> |> Can anyone tell me what I should do? |> First off...you have to format your swap partition before you run "setup". Use "mkswap" or something of that nature. It tells you on the screen what you use. Then run "setup"... and remember you have to have about 90 megs of space for the complete install. ------------------------------ From: aron@tikal.ced.berkeley.edu (Aron Bonar) Subject: Re: Windows NT, Linux and DOS all together? Date: 3 Oct 1993 23:32:09 GMT In article <1993Oct01.205133.28852@taylor.uucp>, mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) writes: |> snail@lsl.co.uk writes: |> |> >Anyone know if you can or cannot have MSDOS/DRDOS, Windows NT and Linux all |> >on one PC? |> You can use LILO to boot different partitions of your hard drive that have different OS's on them. OS/2 Boot manager also works well. (Its the only part of OS/2 that I kept. ) ------------------------------ From: ah379@Freenet.carleton.ca (Jerome Lacroix) Subject: Re: Busmice Reply-To: ah379@Freenet.carleton.ca (Jerome Lacroix) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 00:29:51 GMT In a previous article, ag794@Freenet.carleton.ca (Tony Cifelli) says: > >Has anyone got the busmouse that comes with the ATI Graphics Ultra Plus >(NOT the Pro), to work with X on Linux? It uses IRQ2. This can be >changed if necessary. Right now the mouse pointer sits in the middle >of the screen, and is locked up. > >Once this is figured out, I will publish my Xconfig and the magic >formula to make this work for all others in the same predicament. > >regards, >Tony. >-- >[ Tony Cifelli, B.C.S., M.Math. ag794@freenet.carleton.ca ] >[ President Bus: 613-723-7218 ] >[ cifelli systems & software inc. Fax: 613-723-7472 ] >[ 6 Gurdwara Rd. Suite 200 - Nepean, Ontario - K2E 8A3 - CANADA ] > From what I encountered with my Logitech mouse on a Microsoft Inport, the Linux kernel expects the bus mouse to be configured for IRQ 5 by default. You seem to have two choices. Switch your mouse IRQ to 5, or as in my situation, modify the file busmouse.h in the /linux/kernel/char_drv directory to reflect your current IRQ and recompile the kernel. It worked for me. Good Luck! Jerome Lacroix ah379@freenet.carleton.ca -- ------------------------------ From: rich@mulvey.com Subject: Re: compile problem? trivia.. Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 00:28:32 GMT Jeff Stern (jstern@aris.ss.uci.edu) wrote: : ===== : main(v,c)char**c;{for(v[c++]="Hello, world!\n)"; : (!!c)[*c]&&(v--||--c&&execlp(*c,*c,c[!!c]+!!c,!c)); : **c=!c)write(!!*c,*c,!!**c);} : ===== : FYI: Anyone want to try compiling this on Linux0.99.12 with gcc 2.4.5? : It only gets segmentation faults, but I know it works fine on other : machines (decmips, for instance). When I call the input file "hello.c" : and type "gcc hello.c -o hello", the problems are twofold: : 1) First, if you just try to execute the executable (which has : rwx permissions in all fields) it says "hello: command not found" : so you have to say: ./hello. Isn't this kind of disadvantageous? It hasn't got the *slightest* thing to do with GCC or the program. You have to use ./ because . isn't in your current path. This is usually considered to be a security feature. : 2) Secondly, even when you type ./hello, you get: : HSegmentation fault (core dumped) : which looks like it started to print this out, and then had problems. Secondly, the code, as you posted it, cannot compile under *any* correct C compiler. Where is your declaration/definition for v? Please post an accurate copy. Though it appears that you've taken an example from the obsfucated C contest. - Rich -- Rich Mulvey Amateur Radio: N2VDS Rochester, NY rich@mulvey.com "Ignorance should be painful." ------------------------------ From: sgoldman@encore.com (Steve Goldman) Subject: Re: Oakdriver for X Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 01:18:56 GMT I contributed sources that will be included with Xfree86 2.0 for supporting oak 67/77 chipsets. Until that is public you can get my latest version of the server (and sources) via anonymous ftp. Compressed binaries of the oak driver for linux on the machine ns.encore.com and the files are in the directory /pub/development/languages/C and should be obvious. The sources and a readme history are there also. Four people, that I know of, have gotten copies of it. One user is reporting problems which I haven't looked into yet. The others haven't reported problems other than one report of not being able to get a properly sized/positioned color 800x600 screen. I've been using it pretty extensively and haven't had any problems. I'm interested in other users reports. One of the problems that the first user reported is that the server doesn't get the clocks correctly. I've noticed that startup can be touchy and if there is some other activity on the machine that the clocks come out wrong. I've avoided this by adding a clocks line to my Xconfig. The clocks you can expect for an OTI-67/77 are: 25 28 65 45 14 18 40 36 Steve Goldman, Encore Computer Corp (919) 481-3730 901 Kildaire Farm Rd., bldg D Cary, NC 27511 USA internet: sgoldman@encore.com ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help.misc,comp.os.linux From: cls@truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Subject: precompiled ext2 fs progs v0.3c released Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 23:03:56 GMT You'll know your mke2fs is old if it complains: >"Unable to find a block for ...". or you might have the older "Cannot allocate i-node..." problem. In 28kbtk$b4s@samba.oit.unc.edu (in c.o.l.announce), Remy Card announced: > The new release of the second extended file system support programs >[...] should soon be moved to [sunsite.unc.edu:] /pub/Linux/system/Filesystems/ext2. To help out folks installing Linux for the first time, I grabbed e2fsprogs-0.3c.tar.gz from sunsite, compiled it (with gcc-2.4.5 and libc-4.4.1), and made a little floppy using the new binaries. Then I copied the new binaries, man-pages, and the README onto it. You may want to use this mke2fs and e2fsck instead of the older ones which are probably in the SLS or MCC you grabbed a week or more ago. I'm packing the files two ways. There's a gzipped tar and a gzipped 360KB image of the little floppy. If you don't have room to "untar" the tar.gz, you can gunzip the little floppy onto a floppy (any size :-), mount -t ext2 it in your second floppy drive, and execute mke2fs directly from there. This may be easier and safer than trying to make room on your ramdisk or boot/root floppy. After fdisk, you might make a 100 MB filesystem on partition 2 this way: mkdir /zlor mount -t ext2 /dev/fd1h360 /zlor /zlor/mke2fs -tv /dev/hda2 100000 umount /zlor The files are e2bin3c.tgz (the gzipped tarfile) and e2bin3c.egz (the gzipped file system image) in /pub/Linux/Incoming on sunsite and will move to system/Filesystems/ext2 soon. These files replace e2bbin.tgz and e2bbinfs.gz. LSM entry follows. Cameron in San Jose California Begin2 Title = The ext 2 fs support programs, precompiled Version = 0.3c Desc1 = dirdump displays a directory structure Desc2 = e2fsck checks a file system consistency Desc3 = mke2fs creates a file system Desc4 = mklost+found re-creates the directory lost+found Desc5 = tune2fs changes the parameters of a file system Desc6 = The kit of 5 tools are compiled and packed 2 ways Desc7 = for use during initial installs when compiler Desc8 = is not yet available. Desc9 = e2bin3c.tgz is a gzipped tarfile with executables and manpages. Desc9 = e2bin3c.egz is a gzipped 360K ext2 file system image. Desc10 = with the same files, for use with 2nd floppy drive etc. Author = Remy Card AuthorEmail = card@masi.ibp.fr Maintainer = Cameron Spitzer MaintEmail = cls@truffula.sj.ca.us Site1 = sunsite.unc.edu Path1 = /pub/Linux/system/Filesystems/ext2 File1 = e2bin3c.egz FileSize3 = 33262 bytes File1 = e2bin3c.tgz FileSize3 = 32290 bytes Required1 = should work with GCC or SLS boot/root diskette Required2 = e2bin3c.egz requires 2nd floppy drive CopyPolicy1 = Freely Restributable, Copyright by Remy Card Keywords = Filesystem e2fs efs2 ext2 install precompiled Entered = 03OCT93 EnteredBy = Cameron Spitzer CheckedEmail = cls@truffula.sj.ca.us End ------------------------------ From: idea@dynamic.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Ideas for Brainstorming) Subject: Re: SoftLanding Message Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 02:08:31 GMT My system: 485-50 ATI Ultra Pro 2 meg PAS 16 sound card 32 meg of RAM Adaptec 1542B Segate 4385N 315 meg Quantum 200S 200 meg Quantum 120S 120 meg Sony 541 CD-ROM My system is mainly used as a DOS/Windows system. I am trying to set up the Quantum 120 for a Linux system. When I boot the Linux A1 disk it ID's all 3 drives, the CD and sound card correctly. However when I try to issue the command "fdisk /dev/sdc" it tells me that it cannot open that device. From the docs I assume that the system will support more than 2 SCSI drives. ie: Hard drive device names are: /dev/hda First IDE drive /dev/hdb Second IDE drive /dev/sda First SCSI drive /dev/sdb Second SCSI drive ...and so on. Where am I going wrong? I am able to partition the 3rd drive for DOS using Adaptec's software. All of the SCSI ID's are set correctly. Everything appears to be correct with the exception that to Linux the 3rd drive does not exist. Please Email response to idea@dynamic.heart.rri.uwo.ca Thank You, Harvey -- ============================================================= Harvey MacKenzie idea@dynamic.heart.rri.uwo.ca ============================================================= ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Activists-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux) via: Internet: Linux-Activists@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux tupac-amaru.informatik.rwth-aachen.de pub/msdos/replace The current version of Linux is 0.99pl9 released on April 23, 1993 End of Linux-Activists Digest ******************************