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[0263] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter MacDonald) Linux_Activists 01/01/92 01:41 (17 lines)
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Subject: Re: shoelace
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Date: Tue, 31 Dec 91 22:36:19 PST
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From: pmacdona@sanjuan.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In order to use shoelace under linux, someone will have to compile
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laceup.c. If someone does this, I will post the other components
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that have been compiled under minix. A more reasonable method
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would be to just adapt that portion that selects the menu of
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which partition to boot, and make that part of the linux
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distribution.
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This is particularly so since, linux and minix treat device number/names
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differently.
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Integrating the boot code is important because linux will be
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going to a differnt file system (bigger) than minix, which will
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use 32 bit inode pointers instead of 16 bit ones.
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[0264] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (drew@kinglear.cs.Colorado.EDU) Linux_Activists 01/01/92 15:21 (22 lines)
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Subject: Re: Porting g++ 1.40.3
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To: Wolfgang Thiel <UPSYF108@comparex.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de>,
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In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 26 Dec 91 04:02:45 +0700.
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Date: Wed, 01 Jan 92 13:14:17 MST
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From: drew@kinglear.cs.Colorado.EDU
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--------
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Hi,
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Did somebody else try to port g++-1.40.3 to linux? I am having problems
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with the estdio FILE structure. I tried the MASSCOMP define, setting __rend
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--------
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Gcc 2.0 is imminient. Some one in our CS department is playing with a beta
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version, and although I'm unsure of the release date, it may be installed
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before next semester. Gcc and g++ also become one product in 2.0.
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Save the trouble of porting another gcc in the future, and do it when 2.0
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is available. Then send in diffs to the config files to the gnu people,
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any conditionaly compiled code in any source files (should be
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unecessary) and have it part of the standard gcc distribution.
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[0265] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter MacDonald) Linux_Activists 01/01/92 17:06 (81 lines)
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Subject: Re: VC distribution probs.
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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 92 14:03:53 PST
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From: pmacdona@sanjuan.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Thanks to John Schutz for finding the bootsect.s ommission.
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Move bootsect.s to bootsect.S and apply the following patch.
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Its purpose is to avoid defining the same constants in two
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different places.
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*** boot/bootsect.s.orig Tue Dec 24 23:15:32 1991
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--- boot/bootsect.S Tue Dec 24 23:22:17 1991
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***************
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*** 3,9 ****
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! 0x3000 is 0x30000 bytes = 196kB, more than enough for current
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! versions of linux
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!
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! SYSSIZE = 0x3000
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!
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! bootsect.s (C) 1991 Linus Torvalds
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!
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--- 3,10 ----
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! 0x3000 is 0x30000 bytes = 196kB, more than enough for current
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! versions of linux
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!
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! #include <linux/config.h>
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! SYSSIZE = DEF_SYSSIZE
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!
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! bootsect.s (C) 1991 Linus Torvalds
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!
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***************
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*** 33,41 ****
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SETUPLEN = 4 ! nr of setup-sectors
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BOOTSEG = 0x07c0 ! original address of boot-sector
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! INITSEG = 0x9000 ! we move boot here - out of the way
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! SETUPSEG = 0x9020 ! setup starts here
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! SYSSEG = 0x1000 ! system loaded at 0x10000 (65536).
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ENDSEG = SYSSEG + SYSSIZE ! where to stop loading
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! ROOT_DEV: 0x000 - same type of floppy as boot.
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--- 34,42 ----
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SETUPLEN = 4 ! nr of setup-sectors
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BOOTSEG = 0x07c0 ! original address of boot-sector
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! INITSEG = DEF_INITSEG ! we move boot here - out of the way
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! SETUPSEG = DEF_SETUPSEG ! setup starts here
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! SYSSEG = DEF_SYSSEG ! system loaded at 0x10000 (65536).
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ENDSEG = SYSSEG + SYSSIZE ! where to stop loading
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! ROOT_DEV: 0x000 - same type of floppy as boot.
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*** tools/build.c.orig Tue Dec 24 23:22:59 1991
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--- tools/build.c Tue Dec 24 23:23:38 1991
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***************
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*** 26,31 ****
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--- 26,32 ----
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#include <sys/types.h> /* unistd.h needs this */
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#include <sys/stat.h>
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#include <linux/fs.h>
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+ #include <linux/config.h>
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#include <unistd.h> /* contains read/write */
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#include <fcntl.h>
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***************
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*** 32,38 ****
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#define MINIX_HEADER 32
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#define GCC_HEADER 1024
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! #define SYS_SIZE 0x3000
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#define DEFAULT_MAJOR_ROOT 3
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#define DEFAULT_MINOR_ROOT 6
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--- 33,39 ----
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#define MINIX_HEADER 32
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#define GCC_HEADER 1024
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! #define SYS_SIZE DEF_SYSSIZE
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#define DEFAULT_MAJOR_ROOT 3
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#define DEFAULT_MINOR_ROOT 6
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--[0265]--
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[0266] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Linus Benedict Torvalds) Linux_Activists 01/01/92 18:51 (34 lines)
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Subject: gcc 2.0
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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1992 01:47:37 +0200
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From: Linus Benedict Torvalds <torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi>
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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drew@kinglear.cs.Colorado.EDU: "Re: Porting g++ 1.40.3" (Jan 1, 13:14):
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>
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> Gcc 2.0 is imminient. Some one in our CS department is playing with a beta
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> version, and although I'm unsure of the release date, it may be installed
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> before next semester. Gcc and g++ also become one product in 2.0.
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>
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> Save the trouble of porting another gcc in the future, and do it when 2.0
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> is available. Then send in diffs to the config files to the gnu people,
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> any conditionaly compiled code in any source files (should be
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> unecessary) and have it part of the standard gcc distribution.
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I've also been fooling around a bit with a beta version of gcc-2.0 -
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that's the reason I wanted to have some kind of 387-emulation in 0.12.
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I can happily report that cc1 compiles without changes, but the version
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I compiled sometimes aborts without any error message (not due to linux:
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it does the same thing on a Sun). In any case it seems that with the
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387 emulation in place, gcc-2.0 shouldn't need any difficult porting: it
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compiled at once after "./configure --gas i386-gas-sysv", and after I
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removed a "-lPW" and a "-g" from the Makefile.
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This all leads up to the sad thing: gcc-2.0 is /a lot/ bigger than 1.40:
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the binary is about 800kB for cc1 alone, and with all the C++ files, I
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won't be able to port the whole thing after all, due to lack of disk
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space. I gave it one whole 20M partition, and wasn't able to compile
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more than the C-part before it ran out of space. I'd guess you'll need
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at least 25M free to get everything compiled. That's why I have been
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working on the 387-emu: at least whoever ports gcc-2.0 won't have to
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trouble with the floating-point patches.
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Linus
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[0267] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John R. Schutz) Linux_Activists 01/01/92 22:26 (22 lines)
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Subject: More VC distribution problems
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From: john@csrnxt1.ae.utexas.edu (John R. Schutz)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 92 21:18:52 CST
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It's possible that I missed this in the patches somewhere, but the
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following needs to be added to your include/linux/config.h file:
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#define DEF_INITSEG 0x9000
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#define DEF_SYSSEG 0x1000
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#define DEF_SETUPSEG 0x9020
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#define DEF_SYSSIZE 0x3000
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I would have liked to make a diff file, but since I'm a complete loser
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who doesn't know how to use diff, I didn't.
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john
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--
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| John R. Schutz | Email&NeXTmail: |
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| A learning NeXTie | john@csrnxt1.ae.utexas.edu |
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| (512)328-0587 | "We are all victims of dead men." |
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| 3009 Hatley Dr., Austin, TX 78746 | -Charles Fuller |
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[0268] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter MacDonald) Linux_Activists 01/02/92 01:42 (54 lines)
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Subject: VC
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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 92 22:40:45 PST
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From: pmacdona@sanjuan.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Now you know why I am posting this before sending it to Linus.
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Perhaps I should explain. Disk space for me is extremely tight,
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and I do not have enough to do a test patch before posting.
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I have to do incredible contortions just to get this done.
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But with your help, hopefully Linux will not have any serious
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problems. Here is the patches to, not one, but two files.
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*** include/linux/fs.h.orig Wed Dec 25 19:32:44 1991
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--- include/linux/fs.h Wed Dec 25 19:34:39 1991
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***************
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*** 22,28 ****
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*/
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#define IS_SEEKABLE(x) ((x)>=1 && (x)<=3)
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-
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#define READ 0
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#define WRITE 1
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#define READA 2 /* read-ahead - don't pause */
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--- 22,27 ----
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***************
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*** 62,67 ****
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--- 61,71 ----
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#define PIPE_FULL(inode) (PIPE_SIZE(inode)==(PAGE_SIZE-1))
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#define INC_PIPE(head) \
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__asm__("incl %0\n\tandl $4095,%0"::"m" (head))
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+
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+ #define NIL_FILP ((struct file *)0)
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+ #define SEL_IN 1
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+ #define SEL_OUT 2
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+ #define SEL_EX 4
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typedef char buffer_block[BLOCK_SIZE];
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*** include/linux/config.h.orig Tue Dec 24 23:18:14 1991
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--- include/linux/config.h Tue Dec 24 23:49:25 1991
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***************
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*** 44,48 ****
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--- 44,55 ----
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If you want the BIOS to tell what kind of drive you have, just
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leave HD_TYPE undefined. This is the normal thing to do.
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*/
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+ #define VIDEO_VGA_50_LINES
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+
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+ /* Don't touch these, unless you really know what your doing. */
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+ #define DEF_INITSEG 0x9000
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+ #define DEF_SYSSEG 0x1000
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+ #define DEF_SETUPSEG 0x9020
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+ #define DEF_SYSSIZE 0x3000
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#endif
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[0269] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) Linux_Activists 01/02/92 19:07 (97 lines)
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Subject: Final version of the job control patches....
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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 92 19:00:19 -0500
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From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
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The final copy of my job control patches to Linux 0.11 have been sent to
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Linus; if you want an early peek at them, look in
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tsx-11.mit.edu:/ALPHA/jobcontrol. The following is the NOTES file from
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that directory:
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New Features added by these patches
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* Job control (setpgrp(), tcsetpgrp(), signals, wait(), etc.)
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* gethostname(), sethostname()
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- try using the included hostname program!
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* getrusage()
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- not completely implemented, but the skeleton
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is in place.
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* getrlimit(), setrlimit()
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- try using the ulimit command in bash!
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- nothing looks at the limits yet, though
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* gettimeofday(), settimeofday()
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- for that microsecond accuracy some people demand :-)
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(well, 0.01 second accuracy, actually....)
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Notes about patches:
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1) I integrated in John Kohl's patches to tty_io.c, since I had also
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made changes, and at least one of his patches depended on
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my patch being made first. I have included the other patches
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which he sent to me as separate patches in separate files,
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in case you did not get a copy from him.
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2) I changed the name of system_call.s to sys_call.s, since system_call.s
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is too long for RCS and !@#$! 14 character filenames. You
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should either also make this change (and modify the Makefile
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appropriately) or edit the patch file to change the filename
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back to system_call.s
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3) Currently, MAXHOSTNAMELEN is set at 8 characters. I think it
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should be changed to 64 characters (change in sys/param.h),
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to make it like BSD. Unfortunately, doing this will require
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recompiling libc.a and the shell, since it uses the uname()
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system call. Not a big deal, but it means that when you boot
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with the new kernel, you need to make sure you have the right
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version of /bin/sh installed.
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4) When we add time zone support into the library, we will need to
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do something about how Linux sets the time from the CMOS
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registers. The problem is that the CMOS clock ticks localtime,
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and POSIX specifies that we should be ticking GMT time.
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Currently, we're not, so it's not a problem; but once we
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start including TZ routines in the libc, we will need to deal
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with it. My attempt to solve the problem can be found in
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sys.c: adjust_time(). I don't like the solution all that much,
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but it's the best I could think of at the time.
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Things to think about:
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A) Perhaps the task_struct should go in malloc()'ed memory. This
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will free close to 1k for the kernel stack. We may not need
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to do it now, but as more things get added to the task_struct
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(like BSD-style group lists, etc.), and as the kernel gets more
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complicated (for example, when networking code is added),
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I suspect we will need to do it sooner or later.
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B) Speaking of which, I haven't looked at the new VM stuff that does
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paging. Does the malloc() routine still work, or will it
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need to be modified to coexist with paging?
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C) Another good idea would be to unify the buffer management and
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the free pool memory management, ala SunOS and the latest
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Sys VR4 design. This allows free memory pages to be used as
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buffers and vice versa.
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D) Currently, gid_t is a unsigned char. I would strongly suggest that
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we change to be a unsigned short, and represent it internally
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in the kernel as an unsigned int. This will make life much
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easier if (ha, ha) we ever decide add the Andrew Filesystem
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(AFS) to Linux. Since this effects the stat structure, this
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will probably require recompiling large numbers of programs.
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E) If a Linux machine stays up for greater than 248 days, the number of
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clock ticks will become > 2**31, and jiffies will overflow. I
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suspect something really messy will happen then. We can make
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things better by making jiffies (and all places that refer to
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offsets off jiffies) unsigned longs instead of signed longs,
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but even so, it is still conceivable for a machine to be
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up for greater than 500 days.
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This isn't a problem now, since Linux is in beta test, but
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saying that Unix systems are too unstable to worry about what
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happens when they've been up for more than 500 days seems
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a bit wrong to me.
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- Ted
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--[0269]--
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[0270] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter MacDonald) Linux_Activists 01/02/92 21:05 (1676 lines)
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Subject: shoelace
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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 92 17:44:55 PST
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From: pmacdona@sol.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Here is a quick hack to get shoelace to work under native
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Linux. All that required was coaxing laceup to compile.
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The catch was, no minix header files could be used.
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All the executables are provided, so there is nothing to
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compile. I provided laceup.c only in case some adventurous
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soul wishes to try adapting shoelace properly someday so that
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large file systems could be supported.
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Please note. I have only tested this with my floppy drive,
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so be wary..
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Just follow the readme file provided, and you should be fine.
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table
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[0271] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Drew Eckhardt) Linux_Activists 01/02/92 22:01 (33 lines)
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Subject: mkfs -c
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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1992 19:51:55 -0700
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From: Drew Eckhardt <drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU>
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To: drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU, linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi,
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I initally had Linux on the second, smaller partition on my drive.
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It was error free, and I had no problem doing a mkfs on it.
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However, I have another, 32M partition I'd like to sacrifice to Linux, and it
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does have errors on it. However, when I do a mkfs -c, the parameters
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come up, the drive light blinks for a while, and then it just hangs there -
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no disk activity light, nothing.
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I can cntrl-C out of mkfs, but after it's died, I don't get a prompt back again.
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There is NO furthur output from mkfs.
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Pertinient information :
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Software
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Linux .11, as distributed with minor boot sector patches.
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Hardware
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386-33, Elite chipset, 4M ram
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Western Digital WD1006-MM1 - very WD1003 compatable
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Microscience 1050 (1024 X 5 heads, MFM)
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Seagate ST-02 (currently ignored)
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Seagate 296N
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the problem is always reproducable, occurs irregardless of what's mounted
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as the root file system, and any disk accesses performed before the mkfs.
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Any ideas? mkfs source or a newer working binary?
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Some one needs to get gdb up and running. Any takers?
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--[0271]--
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[0272] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Drew Eckhardt) Linux_Activists 01/02/92 22:07 (8 lines)
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Subject: mkfs -c still
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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1992 20:03:42 -0700
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From: Drew Eckhardt <drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU>
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To: drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU, linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi,
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Looking furthur, I find that when the -c flag was specified, only 1000 blocks
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were created. It's getting stuck there...
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:wq
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--[0272]--
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[0273] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter MacDonald) Linux_Activists 01/03/92 02:12 (29 lines)
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Subject: shoelace for linux
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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 92 23:02:03 PST
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From: pmacdona@sol.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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If you didn't get my last message re: shoelace for linux,
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you are probably one of the ones whose mailer cheerfully
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bounced the message because it was two large. So instead,
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I have uploaded shoelace.tar.Z to incoming on nic.funet.fi
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Below I repeat the message...
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--------------------------------------------------------
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Here is a quick hack to get shoelace to work under native
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Linux. All that required was coaxing laceup to compile.
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The catch was, no minix header files could be used.
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All the executables are provided, so there is nothing to
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compile. I provided laceup.c only in case some adventurous
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soul wishes to try adapting shoelace properly someday so that
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large file systems could be supported.
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Please note. I have only tested this with my floppy drive,
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so be wary..
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Just follow the readme file provided, and you should be fine.
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--[0273]--
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[0274] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (jim wiegand) Linux_Activists 01/03/92 02:45 (129 lines)
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Subject: lp support (Alpha level)
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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1992 02:32:11 EST
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From: jim wiegand <V5068U%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@FINHUTC.hut.fi>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Hi Y'all;
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here are the lp files. they aren't much right now but they will make
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the printer go. (that reminds me- put a line in your init code somewhere that
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calls void lp_init( void ). i forgot to put the file in the archive. oops)
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right now i am working on the following (mis-) features :-)
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o ioctl - to handle error recovery, translation, reset, etc.
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o lpd - basic queue services
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in that order.
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and now for a few stupid questions:
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what does the GNU getgroups() do? i wanted to compile cp(1) but make
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barfed on this- not found.
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is the message passing stuff going to be in the pipeline somewhere? i
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am asking this because i need some sort of system log for the lpd.
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what does POSIX say about printers & does anyone care?
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thanks for the airtime. jim[v5068u].vm.temple.edu
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KGN$:ON$<WN$>_N$@'N(B/N(D7N(F?N(HGN(JON(LWN(N_N(P'N,R/N.3#>$8
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end
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[0275] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ari Lemmke) Linux_Activists 01/03/92 09:08 (14 lines)
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Subject: shoelace for linux
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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1992 15:59:12 +0200
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From: Ari Lemmke <arl@sauna.cs.hut.fi>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: Peter MacDonald's message of Thu, 2 Jan 92 23:02:03 PST <9201030702.AA00807@sol.UVic.CA>
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Peter MacDonald:
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> I have uploaded shoelace.tar.Z to incoming on nic.funet.fi
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nic.funet.fi:/pub/OS/Linux/tools/shoelace.tar.Z
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arl
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[0276] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) Linux_Activists 01/03/92 11:24 (63 lines)
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Subject: Re: lp support (Alpha level)
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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 92 11:06:05 -0500
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From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
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To: jim wiegand <V5068U%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@FINHUTC.hut.fi>
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: jim wiegand's message of Fri, 3 Jan 1992 02:32:11 EST,
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Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1992 02:32:11 EST
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From: jim wiegand <V5068U%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@FINHUTC.hut.fi>
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what does the GNU getgroups() do? i wanted to compile cp(1) but make
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barfed on this- not found.
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getgroups() is an optional POSIX system call, derived from BSD systems:
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int ngroups = getgroups(int gidsetlen, gid_t *gidset)
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(this is the POSIX definition. BSD systems have the type of gidset as
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int, which is not the same as gid_t (unsigned short in BSD, and unsigned
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char in Linux) --- this can be confusing)
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This is used to support the feature where a user can be a member of more
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than one group simultaneously. At login-time, login(1) uses the
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setgroups() call to establish a list of groups that the user is in, and
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this list is inherited by all child processes. When a groups-level
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permission check is done, if any of the groups in the groups list match
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the group of the file, then the user is given group access. The
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getgroups() call is a way that the process can inquire about its group
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list.
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If cp(1) from the GNU fileutils is trying to use getgroups(), it sounds
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like there's some sort of mis-configuration going on. Its .h files must
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somehow think that it's being compiled on a BSD-like system. It sounds
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like either something in the /usr/include .h files is tricking it to
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believe that the getgroups() call exists on your system, or you need to
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frob some #define's in the configuration header file of the fileutils
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package. In general, I've found that programs which are told that it's
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compiling on SysV R2 or R3 machine generally work.
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Alternatively, someone could try adding setgroups()/getgroups() to
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Linux --- this would be a good thing, since the BSD way is much easier
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to use when you belong to multiple groups.
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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1992 19:51:55 -0700
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From: Drew Eckhardt <drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU>
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Some one needs to get gdb up and running. Any takers?
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Some one needs to get core dumps and/or ptrace() working first. :-)
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The job control patches have a hook for the core dump routine, but it
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hasn't been implemented yet. (I wanted to wait until after the VFS
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stuff settles out.)
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Another thing which would be really nice to get working would be
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profiling --- both user-level and possibly kernel-level profiling would
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be nice. Also, assuming you have a swap partition, it would be nice to
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change linux to do crash dumps after it panics. In short, it looks like
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there will be plenty of hacking for people to do after Linux 0.12 comes
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out. :-)
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- Ted
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--[0276]--
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[0277] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter MacDonald) Linux_Activists 01/03/92 22:30 (11 lines)
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Subject: serial port hang
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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 92 19:25:00 PST
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From: pmacdona@sanjuan.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Sometimes I when working for a while, including kernel
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rebuilds, reboots and powering of the modem off and on
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The serial port refuses to talk to the modem anymore and
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only a hardboot clears it. Anyone else seen this behavior?
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[0278] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) Linux_Activists 01/03/92 22:41 (17 lines)
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Subject: Re: serial port hang
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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 92 22:37:32 -0500
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From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
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To: pmacdona@sanjuan.UVic.CA
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: Peter MacDonald's message of Fri, 3 Jan 92 19:25:00 PST,
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Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
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Yes, I've had it happen once, and I haven't been able to reproduce it
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since.
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Interestingly enough, only once of my serial ports wedged, so I just
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dealt with the problem by switching my modem to the other port and
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continued work on /dev/tty2. A reboot later on did clear the problem.
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The next time it happens, I'm going to try reading out the serial
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registers using /dev/port to see if there any clues to be found there.
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- Ted
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[0279] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John R. Schutz) Linux_Activists 01/03/92 22:59 (16 lines)
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Subject: Re: serial port hang
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From: john@csrnxt1.ae.utexas.edu (John R. Schutz)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 92 21:55:47 CST
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I have also had this happen every so often. Soft boots haven't
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cleared it, even when I reboot into MessyDOS, and use a comm program
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there, then reboot to Linux. The only thing that seems to clear it is
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power cycle or reset. While it has happened a few times, I have not
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been able to figure out any conditions that lead up to it <sigh>...
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john
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--
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| John R. Schutz | Email&NeXTmail: |
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| A learning NeXTie | john@csrnxt1.ae.utexas.edu |
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| (512)328-0587 | "We are all victims of dead men." |
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| 3009 Hatley Dr., Austin, TX 78746 | -Charles Fuller |
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--[0279]--
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[0280] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bruce Evans) Linux_Activists 01/04/92 06:53 (16 lines)
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Subject: Re: serial port hang
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Date: Sat, 4 Jan 92 15:26:05 +1100
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From: Bruce Evans <bde@runx.oz.au>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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If the serial ports sometimes hang after booting linux, it is probably due
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to inadequate initialization. See the Minix-1.6.16 rs232.c (i.e., my rs232.c)
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for (almost?) correct initialization.
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If they hang after heavy use, it is more likely one of the xx50 bugs. E.g.,
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the interrupt ID reg sometimes reports no interrupt when there is an
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interrupt. It's necessary to check the modem status bits and possibly the
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line status bits directly before leaving the interrupt handler. Someone
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says that these bits sometimes lie too and it helps to disable and enable
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modem status and output interrupts a lot.
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Bruce
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--[0280]--
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[0281] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bruce Evans) Linux_Activists 01/04/92 06:53 (43 lines)
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Subject: Re: lp support (Alpha level)
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Date: Sat, 4 Jan 92 15:42:01 +1100
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From: Bruce Evans <bde@runx.oz.au>
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To: bde@runxtsa.runx.oz.au
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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>getgroups() is an optional POSIX system call, derived from BSD systems:
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I thought it was a required POSIX system call.
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> int ngroups = getgroups(int gidsetlen, gid_t *gidset)
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>(this is the POSIX definition. BSD systems have the type of gidset as
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>int, which is not the same as gid_t (unsigned short in BSD, and unsigned
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>char in Linux) --- this can be confusing)
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To handle this mess, fileutils-1.5 (which implements cp) has
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#ifdef POSIX
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#if !defined(sun) && !defined(ultrix)
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#define GID_T gid_t
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#else
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#define GID_T int
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#endif
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#else
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#define GID_T int
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#endif
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and it assumes (GID_T *) in the prototype. I think another gnu utilities
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package uses GETGROUPS_T to allow for gid_t being different.
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>...It sounds
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>like either something in the /usr/include .h files is tricking it to
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>believe that the getgroups() call exists on your system, or you need to
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NGROUPS_MAX.
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>Alternatively, someone could try adding setgroups()/getgroups() to
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>Linux --- this would be a good thing, since the BSD way is much easier
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Minix has { return 0; } for getgroups. This is good enough for fileutils
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to work.
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Bruce
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--[0281]-- (nref = [0304])
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[0282] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter MacDonald) Linux_Activists 01/04/92 13:15 (47 lines)
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Subject: nonblock read; ptys;
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Date: Sat, 4 Jan 92 10:07:08 PST
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From: pmacdona@sanjuan.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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I also found the tty_read command to be blocking when VMIN=0. Now some
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questions about the solution seen in the job control patches. Which is:
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if (!time && !minimum && !L_CANON(tty)
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nr = MIN(nr,CHARS(tty->secondary);
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Now for the questions:
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- Should open with O_NONBLOCK implemented by setting VMIN=0 and !L_CANON?
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- If so, should the above be changed to just return -EAGAIN?
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- Ditto for fcntrl O_NONBLOCK?
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EAGAIN is what nonblocking read is supposed to return in errno
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on failed reads.
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Next, some pseudo-tty questions:
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Ptys are pairs of ttys, the Master and the Slave. Anything written to the
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Master tty, appears on the input of the Slave, and vice versa.
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I am implementing the Slave as just a normal tty, but to save
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wasted buffer space, I have the Master tty write directly to the
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slave read_q and then call copy_to_cooked. Likewise, the Master
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reads come directly from the the Slaves write_q. This not only
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saves space, but also unecessary shuffling of data to and from
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queues.
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Is this approach sound? Aren't there concurrency problems with
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two processes manipulating the same queue at the same time? Don't
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the serial and tty handlers have the same problem, cause even
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though they have interrupts disabled, the tty_read or tty_write
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processes could have been right in the middle of changing q.head?
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If there are no concurrency problems, then master ptys can just
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use tty_read and tty_write, with modifications to point to the
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right queues, and the q->write() pointer called in tty_write
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calling a function that invokes copy_to_cooked.
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If there are concurrency problems,
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would tty_write have to call a seperate pty_write function
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which would (shudder) cli() and sti() around writing across queues?
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This would result in more code to maintain in future.
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--[0282]--
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[0283] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter MacDonald) Linux_Activists 01/04/92 17:57 (37 lines)
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Subject: A screen dumper for VC
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Date: Sat, 4 Jan 92 14:55:02 PST
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From: pmacdona@sanjuan.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
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||
To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
|
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|
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Someone, somewhere said "when you have virtual consoles, you almost
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don't need a windowing system, except for cutting and pasting, of
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course". Well cut and paste is hard to do without a windowing system
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and mouse, but dumping the contents of the screen isn't to hard.
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One to many times I watched my modem go "NO CARRIER" in the middle
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of a mail message I was composing, leaving me staring at the contents
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of a screen I knew I would have to completely retype. So I implemented..
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setterm -dump n -file dumpscreenfile
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or just
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setterm -dump
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These options to the setterm command cause the screen to be dumped
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to a file. If a console number n is specified, the contents of that
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console are dumped, otherwise the current console is dumped.
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If a file is not specified with the -file dumpscreenfile option,
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then the contents of the screen go to the file screen.dump in the
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current directory.
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Technical Note:
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To avoid adding another system call, I defined TIOCSNAP in termios.h
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and used ioctl to do the dumping for me.
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The SCR_COLS and SCR_ROWS should be defined in <linux/config.h>.
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Instead, I currently just check if VIDEO_VGA_50_LINES is defined,
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else use 25 lines.
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--[0283]--
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[0284] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen Cooper) Linux_Activists 01/04/92 20:44 (12 lines)
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Subject: FAQ: Non-ftp access to linux
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Sat, 4 Jan 92 10:11:35 PST
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From: Owen Cooper <owen@seer.mystic.com>
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Hello
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Do any of the sites that archive linux have email servers? I
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lack FTP access but would very much like to get a copy. sorry if
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this is a FAQ.
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Thanks in advance for any information,
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Owen Cooper (owen@seer.mystic.com)
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,
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--[0284]--
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[0285] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rob Soukoreff) Linux_Activists 01/05/92 03:45 (35 lines)
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Subject: Two Beginer Questions
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Date: Sun, 5 Jan 92 03:37:42 -0500
|
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From: Rob Soukoreff <rwsoukor@descartes.uwaterloo.ca>
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||
To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
|
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|
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Hello Activists:
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I seem to be having a problem figuring-out Disk Partitions. I have
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an IDE drive, with MSDOS 5.0, and two questions.
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Question #1:
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When I use DOS's FDISK, I can only make a maximum of two partitions,
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the Primary Partition, and the Extended partition. Now, since DOS
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wants the Primary Partition for itself, this only leaves the extended
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partition, which Linux won't accept. How do you create a partition
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of a kind other than Primary or Extended for Linux?
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Question #2:
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I see in many places people talking about having four partitions on
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one hard drive, but I seem only able to create one Primary, and one
|
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Extended partition. How are these people creating more than two
|
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partitions? Are they refering to separate Logical DOS Drives within
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one Extended Partition? In particular I am refering to the file:
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INSTALL-0.11, by Linus, under the section titled: "Using it."
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Thanks,
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Rob Soukoreff
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rwsoukoreff@descartes
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--[0285]--
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[0286] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (d88-man@nada.kth.se) Linux_Activists 01/05/92 06:44 (11 lines)
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Subject: short question...
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Date: Sun, 5 Jan 92 12:40:06 +0100
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From: d88-man@nada.kth.se
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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I am trying to read the keyboard via int 0x16 from setup.s
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this seems to work until Linux have booted then the keyboard
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is hanged. But if I for example press ctrl+c after I have done
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the keyboard read the keyboard is not hanged when Linux starts.
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Anybody have any ideas of why and how to avoid ?
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This may be uninteresting to most so please answer to me directly.
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/Mats Andersson (d88-man@nada.kth.se)
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--[0286]--
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[0287] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rick Buhagiar) Linux_Activists 01/05/92 07:13 (8 lines)
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Subject: Unsubscribe to linux
|
||
From: rickb@phoenix.pub.uu.oz.au (Rick Buhagiar)
|
||
To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
|
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Date: Sun, 5 Jan 92 11:30:25 EST
|
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Can you please take me off the linux mail list as I now use xenix.
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Thanks.
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--[0287]--
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[0288] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (d88-man@nada.kth.se) Linux_Activists 01/05/92 10:35 (14 lines)
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Subject: int 0x16
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Date: Sun, 5 Jan 92 16:30:42 +0100
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From: d88-man@nada.kth.se
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
|
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|
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As I mailed earlier int 0x16 seems to hang the keyboard for Linux when
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used in setup.s. I guess the keyboard must be reset or something before
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starting Linux (after the int 0x16). I said something about when pressing
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ctrl+c afterwards seems to "undo" the hanging this was not true (it was
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just as it looked) In fact it seems to hang at random (with possibility
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going towards 1 :-( ) If anybody knows how to reset/or anything the keyboard
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outport etc. Please let me know ! Or any other ideas of why/how/etc.
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Thanks in advance...
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/Mats Andersson (d88-man@nada.kth.se)
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--[0288]--
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[0289] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) Linux_Activists 01/05/92 11:56 (41 lines)
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Subject: Re: Two Beginer Questions
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Date: Sun, 5 Jan 92 11:47:25 -0500
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From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
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To: Rob Soukoreff <rwsoukor@descartes.uwaterloo.ca>
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Cc: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: Rob Soukoreff's message of Sun, 5 Jan 92 03:37:42 -0500,
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Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
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The problem is that the fdisk which MS-DOS uses very limited; it only
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knows how to deal with MS-DOS partitions (my 8-bit CP/M machines from
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ten years ago did better than that!).
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The MS-DOS partitioning scheme does indeed allow for having four
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partitions on one hard drive. The problem was that four is just way too
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small of a number. So what MS-DOS did was that MS-DOS knows how to make
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two partitions --- the "Primary" DOS parition, and the "Extended
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partition", which is in reality one of the four "Primary" partitions
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which can be allocated on a hard disk. This leaves two other partitions
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which MS-DOS FDISK doesn't deal with at all. Other operating systems,
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like OS/2 or Linux, can use them, if they can figure out a way to set up
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the other two partitions. I thought you could indeed use the Extended
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partition for Linux, but this is sort of a bad idea, since the wrong
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MS-DOS commands could easily trash your Linux filesystem.
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If you want to set up one the third and fourth "Primary" partitions,
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there are two ways to do this. The first is to use something like
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Norton Utilities, and mess with partition tables with a disk editor.
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Norton Utilities' disk editor is actually fairly sophisticated, so it
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knows the format of the tables. You still have to do a bit of manual
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calculations to get the ector numbering and double-checking, though.
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The other method is to use a more sophisticated FDISK command; the one
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supplied with OS/2 will work. I don't know if there are any other PD
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versions of FDISK out there that will do the trick. There is a fdisk
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command under Linux, but currently it will only print out the partition
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table. Eventually you should be able to use the fdisk that comes with
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Linux; however, for right now, that's why I only recommend Linux to
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people who are willing to hack on it. :-)
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- Ted
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[0290] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tom Ivar Helbekkmo) Linux_Activists 01/05/92 13:30 (46 lines)
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Subject: Incorrect path parsing in fs/namei.c.
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From: Tom Ivar Helbekkmo <tih@barsoom.nhh.no>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi (Linux Activists)
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Date: Sun, 5 Jan 92 19:26:17 MET
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There's a problem in fs/namei.c that affects absolute pathnames. It
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can easily be demonstrated by e.g.:
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# cd /etc
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# cp rc /
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...which gives an error message (can't remember the exact wording) to
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the effect that "//rc" can't be opened. This is caused by the
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concatenation of the directory, a '/' and the filename, which gives a
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double slash.
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Of course, multiple slashes should be allowed. Not being familiar
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with how, exactly, namei parsing should work, I can't offer a fix.
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What I did locally, just to minimize the effect, was to check for
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another slash near the top of get_dir(), where it recognizes a leading
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slash as being the root directory, and just skipping that second slash
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if present.
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Also, another bug somewhere (race condition in the file system?)
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showed up after I installed the virtual consoles patches... Starting
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three shells on three virtual consoles from /etc/rc in direct
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succession caused the file system to be damaged. It turned out that
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this was caused by the three instances of bash accessing the
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.bash_history file at the same time. Staggering the shell startups
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sufficiently in time fixed it, as did disabling the history file
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feature from the .profile file. At startup, the kernel would report
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trying to free block (NNNN:NNNN), count = N
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while starting the shells, where the last N would be sometimes 1,
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sometimes 2. Running fsck on the file system would show that number
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of references to the same (actually unallocated) block. On the good
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side, fsck fixed the file system.
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A bit of good news: I'm running with the posted shoelace here, and can
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report that booting from my hard disk with shoelace works great. No
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more floppies here, except for my emergency boot floppy, of course.
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-tih
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--
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Tom Ivar Helbekkmo, NHH, Bergen, Norway. Telephone: +47-5-959205
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Postmaster for domain nhh.no. Internet mail: tih@barsoom.nhh.no
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--[0290]--
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[0291] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Yanek Martinson) Linux_Activists 01/05/92 14:27 (15 lines)
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Subject: Re: int 0x16 (reading keyboard)
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From: Yanek Martinson <yanek@mthvax.cs.miami.edu>
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To: d88-man@nada.kth.se
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Date: Sun, 5 Jan 92 14:22:17 EST
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: <9201051530.AA25892@dront.nada.kth.se>; from "d88-man@nada.kth.se" at Jan 5, 92 4:30 pm
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> As I mailed earlier int 0x16 seems to hang the keyboard for Linux
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...
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> outport etc. Please let me know ! Or any other ideas of why/how/etc.
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You don't really have to go through BIOS int 16 to read keyboard,
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potentially causing problems. You can read it directly, on port 0x60.
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A value less than 129 is a "key pressed" signal, with the value bin
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the scancode of key pressed. A value more than 128 is "key released"
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signal, with the value being scancode+128.
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--[0291]--
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[0292] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rob Soukoreff) Linux_Activists 01/05/92 16:18 (21 lines)
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Subject: Partions ok now...
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Date: Sun, 5 Jan 92 16:13:41 -0500
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From: Rob Soukoreff <rwsoukor@descartes.uwaterloo.ca>
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Hello Activists!
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I wanted to report that my partition problem is fixed! The program
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edpart.zip from wuarchive worked great! Many thanks for all of the
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suggestions.
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Do you think edpart.zip should be mentioned in the FAQ?
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Thanks,
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Rob Soukoreff
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rwsoukoreff@descartes
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--[0292]--
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[0293] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John T Kohl) Linux_Activists 01/05/92 16:28 (14 lines)
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Subject: Re: disk partitioning
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Date: Sun, 5 Jan 92 13:20:27 PST
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To: tytso@athena.mit.edu (Theodore Ts'o)
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Cc: Rob Soukoreff <rwsoukor@descartes.uwaterloo.ca>,
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In-Reply-To: [289]
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From: John T Kohl <jtkohl@cs.berkeley.edu>
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Reply-To: jtkohl@cs.berkeley.edu
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I use the 'edpart' program I picked up from WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL.
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it runs under DOS, and provides an o.k. interface. I believe it lets
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you select partitions on cylinder boundaries, and does the rest of the
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calculations itself.
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[of course, you have to calculate from blocks/MB to cylinders...]
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John
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--[0293]-- (pref = [0289])
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[0294] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Linus Benedict Torvalds) Linux_Activists 01/05/92 17:31 (44 lines)
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Subject: Re: Incorrect path parsing in fs/namei.c.
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Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1992 00:25:45 +0200
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From: Linus Benedict Torvalds <torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi>
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In-Reply-To: Tom Ivar Helbekkmo's message as of Jan 5, 19:26
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To: Tom Ivar Helbekkmo <tih@barsoom.nhh.no>,
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Tom Ivar Helbekkmo: "Incorrect path parsing in fs/namei.c." (Jan 5, 19:26):
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> There's a problem in fs/namei.c that affects absolute pathnames. It
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> can easily be demonstrated by e.g.:
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>
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> # cd /etc
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> # cp rc /
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>
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> ...which gives an error message (can't remember the exact wording) to
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> the effect that "//rc" can't be opened. This is caused by the
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> concatenation of the directory, a '/' and the filename, which gives a
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> double slash.
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This is corrected in my version - it will be in 0.12. I had expressly
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forbidden zero-length pathnames, as I didn't know what to do about them,
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but tytso implemented the same change as you wanted, and it seems that
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is what linux should do.
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> Also, another bug somewhere (race condition in the file system?)
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> showed up after I installed the virtual consoles patches...
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> [ deleted ]
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>
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> trying to free block (NNNN:NNNN), count = N
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Right - this is a race-condition in "open()" when using the O_TRUNC
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flag. I knew about it when I wrote the code, but happily forgot about
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it (as it seldom happens on a single-user machine - I've never actually
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seen it).
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fsck should report "Zone XXXX: no file uses it, marked used in the
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bitmap". If you get another message, please tell me. The reason this
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happens is that I didn't know how to handle a truncate on a file that
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was in use, so I ignored the problem, and forgot about it. I think I
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have a solution, and I'll try to get it corrected in 0.12.
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As far as I know, this bug is totally harmless (except for the message),
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and just results in a unused block on the disk. fsck should repair it,
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but if you got another message than the above, I'm wrong.
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Linus
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--[0294]--
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[0295] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Teresa Selling) Linux_Activists 01/05/92 21:09 (12 lines)
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Subject: kermit
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From: Teresa Selling <tselling@natasha.iusb.indiana.edu>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Sun, 5 Jan 92 21:04:43 EST
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I am having trouble getting Kermit to work with linux. I set the line to
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/dev/tty1 (for com1). Is this correct? Doesn't seem to access the modem.
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Also when I send mail to linux-activists-requests@joker.cs.hut.fi it gets
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returned.
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What am I doing wrong?
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Thanks.
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--[0295]--
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[0296] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher Provenzano | ) Linux_Activists 01/05/92 23:21 (13 lines)
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Subject: VFS
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Sun, 05 Jan 92 23:15:46 EST
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From: Christopher Provenzano | Food is Great! <proven@Athena.MIT.EDU>
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Ok, I just mailed Linus the VFS code. Hopefully he'll include it in the next
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release. Ted there is a prerelease version
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/afs/net/user/tytso/linux/proven/vfs910105.tar.Z, can you make it publically
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available so anyone who wants to look at it can. More stuff for the VFS is
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coming but the current version does include all the functionallity of the old
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fs, and hopefully very few bugs.
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CAP
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--[0296]--
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[0297] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) Linux_Activists 01/06/92 00:41 (21 lines)
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Subject: Re: VFS
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Date: Mon, 6 Jan 92 00:35:43 -0500
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From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: Chris Provenzano's message of Sun, 05 Jan 92 23:15:46 EST,
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Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
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Date: Sun, 05 Jan 92 23:15:46 EST
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From: Christopher Provenzano <proven@athena.mit.edu>
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Ted there is a prerelease version
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/afs/net/user/tytso/linux/proven/vfs910105.tar.Z, can you make it
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publically available so anyone who wants to look at it can.
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TSX-11.MIT.EDU:~ftp/ALPHA/VFS/vfs910105.tar.Z
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- Ted
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P.S. If any one knows of some email archive server software which takes
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little time and energy to set up and run (very important! :-), please
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send me a pointer to it; I've gotten one or two requests for a mail
|
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access path. Thanks!
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--[0297]--
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[0298] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen Cooper) Linux_Activists 01/06/92 02:27 (12 lines)
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Subject: setting up linux with dos 5.0
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
|
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Date: Sun, 5 Jan 92 21:24:13 PST
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From: Owen Cooper <owen@seer.mystic.com>
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|
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Thanks to everyone who replied to my last message. I have now obtained a
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copy of the linux boot & root images (I got them from ftpmail.) I tried to
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create a non-dos partition for linux in fdisk (msdos 5.0) but am unable to
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set up such a partition. The dos manual says that the other operating system
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should set up the partition. any help in resolving this problem would be
|
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appriciated.
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Owen (owen@seer.mystic.com)
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--[0298]--
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[0299] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU) Linux_Activists 01/06/92 02:53 (29 lines)
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Subject: Re: int 0x16 (reading keyboard)
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To: Yanek Martinson <yanek@mthvax.cs.miami.edu>
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 05 Jan 92 14:22:17 -0500.
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Date: Mon, 06 Jan 92 00:48:08 MST
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From: drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU
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--------
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> As I mailed earlier int 0x16 seems to hang the keyboard for Linux
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...
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> outport etc. Please let me know ! Or any other ideas of why/how/etc.
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You don't really have to go through BIOS int 16 to read keyboard,
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potentially causing problems. You can read it directly, on port 0x60.
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A value less than 129 is a "key pressed" signal, with the value bin
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the scancode of key pressed. A value more than 128 is "key released"
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signal, with the value being scancode+128.
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--------
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Infact, you CANNOT use BIOS calls in Linux. BIOS is INACCESSABLE in protected
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mode, which Linux and all other REAL operating systems run under. There is NO
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Code for handling int 16h.
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You either talk directly to the hardware, or let a device driver handle it
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for you.
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code for handling 16h.
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--[0299]--
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[0300] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU) Linux_Activists 01/06/92 03:03 (47 lines)
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Subject: Re: int 0x16 (reading keyboard)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
|
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In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 06 Jan 92 00:48:08 -0700.
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Date: Mon, 06 Jan 92 00:58:16 MST
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From: drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU
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--------
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> As I mailed earlier int 0x16 seems to hang the keyboard for Linux
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...
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> outport etc. Please let me know ! Or any other ideas of why/how/etc.
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You don't really have to go through BIOS int 16 to read keyboard,
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potentially causing problems. You can read it directly, on port 0x60.
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A value less than 129 is a "key pressed" signal, with the value bin
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the scancode of key pressed. A value more than 128 is "key released"
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signal, with the value being scancode+128.
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--------
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Infact, you CANNOT use BIOS calls in Linux. BIOS is INACCESSABLE in protec ted
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mode, which Linux and all other REAL operating systems run under. There is
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NO Code for handling int 16h.
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You either talk directly to the hardware, or let a device driver handle it
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for you.
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--------
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Sorry - misplaced that original mail - whenever I leave even for a short
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time my mail box fills up with mundane sys admin mail, etc and I can't
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always find the good stuff.
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If you're calling int 16h BEFORE the protected mode switch, you should be
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fine. Make sure you haven't cleared the interrupt flag. As far as reading
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the keyboard directly....
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This gives a SCAN CODE, not an ASCII value, which must be converted
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if you are interested in the value.
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You can use an index into a translation table, but this means you must store
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all of the keys you are interested in in the table - a real pain. You also
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have to worry about shift states if case is significant, multibyte scan
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codes, etc.
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--[0300]--
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[0301] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen. Clawson) Linux_Activists 01/06/92 03:14 (28 lines)
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Subject: Re: setting up linux with dos 5.0
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From: sclawson@cadehp12.eng.utah.edu (Stephen. Clawson)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Mon, 6 Jan 92 1:09:38 MST
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In-Reply-To: <m0l0moo-0000LcC@seer.mystic.com>; from "Owen Cooper" at Jan 5, 92 9:24 pm
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>
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> Thanks to everyone who replied to my last message. I have now obtained a
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> copy of the linux boot & root images (I got them from ftpmail.) I tried to
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> create a non-dos partition for linux in fdisk (msdos 5.0) but am unable to
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> set up such a partition. The dos manual says that the other operating system
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> should set up the partition. any help in resolving this problem would be
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> appriciated.
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>
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> Owen (owen@seer.mystic.com)
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>
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Try getting pdisk.arc from wuarchive.wustl.edu in /mirrors/msdos/dskutl.
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Someone else suggested edpart, but I tried it and like the program that comes
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with pdisk better. I'm not sure what the rest of it is, but there is a
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program called part.exe in the archive that will do what you want nicely.
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edpart dosen't seem to understand partitions >32meg and managed to mung
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my partition table up a bit... I used part.exe to set my formerly extended
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DOS partition to XENIX and things have worked fine since.
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steve
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// sclawson@cadehp0.eng.utah.edu - University of Utah
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--[0301]--
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[0302] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (d88-man@nada.kth.se) Linux_Activists 01/06/92 11:58 (293 lines)
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Subject: SVGA-alphanum. modes
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Date: Mon, 6 Jan 92 17:43:12 +0100
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From: d88-man@nada.kth.se
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
|
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I have finally had time to finish the SVGA-detector. This patch will
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look for clues to determine if/what SVGA-card available. If it finds
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a card it will ask (at boottime) if one wants to select from the modes
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supported by the current card or just do a 'normal' init without SVGA-modes.
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This is not the best thinkable way of doing this, I will work on a version
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that can do the modeswitching from 'user-mode', which however is FAR more work than this straightforward hack. But the detection part of it must still lie
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in the kernel (at least that's simplest). But this is good enough to be
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usefull/easy to use.
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I have uploaded this code to both nic.funet.fi and tsx-11.mit.edu.
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I have only been able to test the Trident part of this code. People out
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there with different cards could please test this and mail results. And even
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the Trident part is not guarateed to work since my card seems a bit strange.
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Cards supported: ATI, Ahead, Chips & Tech., Cirrus, Everex, Genoa, Paradise,
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Trident, Tseng, Video7. People with code to guess other cards and what modes
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they support could mail me, or implement them themselves as long as it
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gets spread.
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Finally, the patch someone (can't remember who) sent out with the 'standard'
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80x50 mode for VGA could be implemented in this code as an extra choice
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but I can't remeber how one did it so could please someone send it to me,
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and I can tuck it in at the end ...
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++++++++++++++++++++++CUT+HERE++++++++++++++++++++++CUT+HERE++++++++++++++++++
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begin 664 svga.tar.Z
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M'YV04HH$(=*D"("#"!,J7,BPH<.'$"-*1 BBH@T:-$ J,@1AD:.%3UN!%E1
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MA@T9-RK6B#%#1@P8-V#8F,'QQ@T:,#;FG,BSI\^?0.O,H1-&3D4 <MZ\H0/4
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M8=*E3:-*G4JUJM6K4Z=8.1*D19LW9,J @!.&SA@T9>: H/,&!),T;NK@ ;&F
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[0303] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) Linux_Activists 01/06/92 14:08 (30 lines)
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Subject: Re: SVGA-alphanum. modes
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Date: Mon, 6 Jan 92 13:53:39 -0500
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From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
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To: d88-man@nada.kth.se
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Cc: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: d88-man@nada.kth.se's message of Mon, 6 Jan 92 17:43:12 +0100,
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Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
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TSX-11 FTP server update....
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d88-man@nada.kth.se's SVGA patches:
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~ftp/pub/linux/patches/svga.tar.Z
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edpart and pdisk have been uploaded from wuarcive and placed in:
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~ftp/pub/msdos
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~ftp/pub/linux/info/xterm-seqs.ms
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~ftp/pub/linux/info/xterm-seqs2.txt
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I uploaded the last because it might be useful for people wanting to
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hack on the console driver. In particular, it would be neat if ESC [ ?
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3 h switched the screen to 132 column mode, and ESC [ ? 3 l set it back
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to 80 columns. hint, hint. :-)
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- Ted
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[0304] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) Linux_Activists 01/06/92 14:46 (44 lines)
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Subject: Re: lp support (Alpha level)
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Date: Mon, 6 Jan 92 14:31:59 -0500
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From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: [281]
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Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
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Date: Sat, 4 Jan 92 15:42:01 +1100
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From: Bruce Evans <bde@runx.oz.au>
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>getgroups() is an optional POSIX system call, derived from BSD systems:
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I thought it was a required POSIX system call.
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I stand corrected. It is required; I was getting confused by the fact
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that NGROUPS_MAX can be 0, which means that there is no supplementary
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Minix has { return 0; } for getgroups. This is good enough for fileutils
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to work.
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I've fixed it by actually implementing getgroups() and setgroups(), as
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well as POSIX_SAVED_IDS. Patches have been sent to Linus; if you want
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to look at them, they can be found in TSX-11.MIT.EDU in
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~ftp/ALPHA/job-control/grppatch.tar.Z. The patches are relative to
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Linux 0.11 + the job control patches, but they shouldn't depend on the
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job control changes except for silly things like system call numbering.
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Note that programs which use the getgroups() call will depend on the
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size of gid_t and will need recompiling when/if it gets changed. gid_t
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is currently a unsigned char, but I would strongly recommend that at
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some point we change it to be an unsigned short (at least). The problem
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is that if we do this, all programs which use the stat() or fstat()
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system call will also need recompiling.
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Another change which is similar is MAXHOSTNAMELEN, which is currently 8.
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To change it to something greater (I would suggest the BSD value of 64),
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will require that all programs which use the uname() system call be
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recompiled. No big deal, except that /bin/sh is one of them.
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Neither of these are particularly important to make, so perhaps we
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should batch up all of these changes and make them at some future point,
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at which point everyone will have to recompile all their binaries.
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- Ted
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--[0304]-- (pref = [0281])
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[0305] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter MacDonald) Linux_Activists 01/06/92 14:53 (13 lines)
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Subject: Re: SVGA-alphanum. modes
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Date: Mon, 6 Jan 92 11:45:27 PST
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From: pmacdona@sanjuan.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
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To: d88-man@nada.kth.se
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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It was I who sent out the patches to get to 50 line mode.
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I also implemented the Virtual Consoles coming in .12.
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Note that it would be desirable to run a windowing system in one
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VC and be able to switch to other text-mode consoles.
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This means not using the bio (yuck) or finding a way
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to use V86 mode to do the switching. This would be nice
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because it is a step towards DOS under Linux.
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--[0305]--
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[0306] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John T Kohl) Linux_Activists 01/06/92 15:00 (15 lines)
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Subject: Re: 486 problem
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Date: Mon, 6 Jan 92 11:52:59 PST
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To: nicholas@cs.uwa.oz.au (Nicholas Yue)
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: [128]
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From: John T Kohl <jtkohl@cs.berkeley.edu>
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Reply-To: jtkohl@cs.berkeley.edu
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I finally found and corrected the problem I had with booting a 486/33 at
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full speed.
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The problem was the BIOS "Fast A20 Gate Option". For UNIXes, this
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should be DISABLED; for Mess-Dos, it seems to make no difference.
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[A droid at the computer store said it has something to do with DMA]
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John
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[0307] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mika Matti Jalava) Linux_Activists 01/06/92 15:51 (18 lines)
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Subject: The partitioning problem
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From: Mika Matti Jalava <r36110m@kaira.hut.fi>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Mon, 6 Jan 92 22:44:55 EET
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Oups, I seem to be forgetting the basics. I think I sent my previous
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posting to someone personally instead of the list. Whoever it was,
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sorry.
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Anyway, how are the bigger (>32M) partitions meant to be formatted?
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Now I know where to get a program to make them, but... Is there any
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way other than getting a new dos (I have 3.30)? I am not going to pay
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any more for dos than I've already paid, especially now that there is
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linux for free! And actually, is even a newer dos a solution, haven't
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they got the same 2-partition limit as the older ones, the partitions
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just may be bigger? So, what program should I use to format these
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beasts?
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Mika
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[0308] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) Linux_Activists 01/06/92 16:39 (41 lines)
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Subject: Re: SVGA-alphanum. modes
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Date: Mon, 6 Jan 92 16:30:43 -0500
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From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.edu (Theodore Ts'o)
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To: pmacdona@sanjuan.UVic.ca
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Cc: d88-man@nada.kth.se, linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: Peter MacDonald's message of Mon, 6 Jan 92 11:45:27 PST, <9201061945.AA12593@sanjuan.UVic.CA>
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Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
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I suspect that you would want to use the raw I/O instructions to do the
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switching, and not try to use BIOS in V86 mode. I really don't know if
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I'd want to trust the BIOS, and in any case, if you want real speed, you
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will want to be talking to the VGA card directly anyway. The X server
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in the X11R5 tape already has code to talk to a couple of Super VGA
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cards; it probably shouldn't be that hard the kernel mods integrated
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with VC changes so that you can switch around.
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I've thought about what it would take to add V86 tasks; since each V86
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task requires that it has 0-640k in Virtual space (you can't just give
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it a segment), each V86 task would need to have its own set of page
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tables that would have to be swapped in when it was running. While this
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would be tricky to implement (the task switching code would need to be
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changed --- carefully), it has the advantage that we could at the same
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time get rid of the 64 process limit. For the 65th through 129th
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process, we simply use another set of page tables, and so on.
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We'd also want to intercept all of the BIOS and DOS interrupts and
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replace them with blocking versions of the calls, so that the MS-DOS
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tasks can run efficiently. Yet some programs will try using the raw I/O
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instructions, and in order to handle them we would need to trap
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attempted I/O instructions and attempt to emulate them. Then's there's
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all of the memory-mapped video that would need to be emulating by
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putting in hooks to the VM code.
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All-in-all a pretty big job....
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- Ted
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[0309] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ari Lemmke) Linux_Activists 01/06/92 17:32 (14 lines)
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Subject: SVGA-alphanum. modes
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Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1992 00:23:45 +0200
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From: Ari Lemmke <arl@zen.cs.hut.fi>
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: d88-man@nada.kth.se's message of Mon, 6 Jan 92 17:43:12 +0100 <9201061643.AA21121@dront.nada.kth.se>
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d88-man@nada.kth.se:
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>I have uploaded this code to both nic.funet.fi and tsx-11.mit.edu.
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nic.funet.fi:/pub/OS/Linux/kernel/svga.tar.Z
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arl
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[0310] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ari Lemmke) Linux_Activists 01/06/92 17:34 (25 lines)
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Subject: VT102 codes
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Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1992 00:30:03 +0200
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From: Ari Lemmke <arl@zen.cs.hut.fi>
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: Theodore Ts'o's message of Mon, 6 Jan 92 13:53:39 -0500 <9201061853.AA07025@tsx-11.MIT.EDU>
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>A quick summary of xterm/VT100 escape sequences can be found in
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>
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> ~ftp/pub/linux/info/xterm-seqs.ms
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> ~ftp/pub/linux/info/xterm-seqs2.txt
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Also VT102 codes available at
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nic.funet.fi:/pub/doc/HW/terminals/vt102.codes
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I'm collecting all hardware documentation I can get ;-)
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especially interested in different PC cards and their
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dip-settings.
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Also I'm going to put available my drivers (sources)
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collection (for different PC and non-PC devices/cards).
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arl
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[0311] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU) Linux_Activists 01/06/92 22:01 (134 lines)
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Subject: Re: SVGA-alphanum. modes
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To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
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Cc: d88-man@nada.kth.se, linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 06 Jan 92 16:30:43 -0500.
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Date: Mon, 06 Jan 92 19:47:25 MST
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From: drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU
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--------
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I suspect that you would want to use the raw I/O instructions to do the
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switching, and not try to use BIOS in V86 mode. I really don't know if
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I'd want to trust the BIOS, and in any case, if you want real speed, you
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will want to be talking to the VGA card directly anyway. The X server
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I disagree. The actual mode setting will be called ONCE when the
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Xserver initializes. Initialization code for all different VGA cards is
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often radically different - with registers spread all over the place,
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with different values and functionality. Saving a few hundred clock cycles
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one time on a machine with 20 to 40 million is not a big deal.
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in the X11R5 tape already has code to talk to a couple of Super VGA
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cards; it probably shouldn't be that hard the kernel mods integrated
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with VC changes so that you can switch around.
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I've thought about what it would take to add V86 tasks; since each V86
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task requires that it has 0-640k in Virtual space (you can't just give
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it a segment), each V86 task would need to have its own set of page
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tables that would have to be swapped in when it was running. While this
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would be tricky to implement (the task switching code would need to be
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changed --- carefully), it has the advantage that we could at the same
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time get rid of the 64 process limit. For the 65th through 129th
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process, we simply use another set of page tables, and so on.
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The appropriate CR is stored in the task state structure saved by the 386 -
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so switching can be basically automated. You have some inteligence to
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share the BIOS and manage the IO bitmaps though - to prevent contention
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problems. Also, V86 tasks can only address 1M + ~64K (address carry
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present in 286's and above), requiring at most 256 + 16 second level
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table entries, meaning a single secone level table (1024 entries
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MAX per table) and first table entry. Spares for video memory bank
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switching are also desireable.
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(Excuse my terminology -= I can't keep tables and directories straight)
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We'd also want to intercept all of the BIOS and DOS interrupts and
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replace them with blocking versions of the calls, so that the MS-DOS
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tasks can run efficiently. Yet some programs will try using the raw I/O
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DOS does not need to be trapped. You run one copy of DOS per VM - this saves
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MANY reentrancy problems, etc. As far as what needs to be trapped -
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1. Disk BIOS should write to the Linux routines, with extraneous routines
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trapped - ie no go for format, etc : we want a minimal functionality
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first.
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2. Video set mode int 10h function 0 should be trapped for mode, and
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only allow VALID VGA modes, the setting of which will be sent to
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the Linux window program (outputing to X11) All other BIOS
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video accesses are OK except perhaps the set palette, which
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we would probably only emulate at the register level (eventually)
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and let BIOS do it's thing. Also, we need to keep track of
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state for text / graphics.
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3. Any BIOS routines that talk to registers that are NOT being emulated.
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A simple solution would be to block any and all BIOS calls, a better
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solution would be to change IOPL once in BIOS and cause all read /
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writes to fault -, setting a blocking flag. If the blocking flag is
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set, you wait until it is cleared by a ret / iret from the BIOS code.
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Video RAM access is handled by having a buffer allocated for each machine.
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Text, and CGA are no problem at all - these are not bank switched, and
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lack the special EGA / VGA ALU / barell shifter, plane mask, and
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bank switching used for 16 color modes. Each task has its own
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video memory buffer. You after a refresh alarm expires, you
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look at the accessed bits in the page table and update those regions that
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have changed.
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Trapping interrupts in DOS :
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Not overly complicated. When an INT, INT3, or INTO opcode is executed
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in a vm task, it creates a general protection violation. When you trap this
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fault, you examine the VM flag in the flags on the stack. If it
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is set, you use your special DOS handler which looks for one of these or
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other IOPL or VM sensitive instructions and perform the appropriate
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emulation.
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instructions, and in order to handle them we would need to trap
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attempted I/O instructions and attempt to emulate them. Then's there's
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all of the memory-mapped video that would need to be emulating by
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putting in hooks to the VM code.
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Other stuff for a complete emulation of real mode :
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trapping of EGA / VGA Palette, panning, and palette registers.
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trapping of "normal" PIC mask register, timer ports, keyboard
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registers (tie to the ttyp of the Linux proram) and eventually maybe
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serial / parallel.
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It is a nice idea, and would make an incredible summer project
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after some one has ported X11R5 to Linux.
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Virtual 8086 mode allows you to use almost all of the BIOS and any DOS
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or other real mode OS underneath this mess. You have a few interrupts
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that need dealing with, the hardware interrupts to simulate, and
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some ports to trap, but other than being an exercise in protected and
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VM program - it should be not overly difficult, just time consuming.
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-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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I'd be more worried about getting X11 up in the first place as distribution
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for R5 is around 150 megs. The two possibilities I'm looking at right now
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are
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1. It is possible to use
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NFS servers over serial lines. A direct link, at 38.4K baud
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could be made to a machine with disk and build done locally.
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I think one such NFS program is PPP - are there others?
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How soon until sockets, rpc, etc are implemented on Linux?
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2. Large local SCSI disk
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I've been offered a 340M SCSI drive real cheap (locally),
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and am getting there on my SCSI drivers - after Winter USENIX is a
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definite possibility for completion.
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For work, we're currently installing X11R5 on our HP 68k Unix boxes -
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I'll see how soothly it goes and take a look at the Xserver code
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to see what needs changing.
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Again, a lot of goodies like X hinge not only on some one having enough
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disk space to do a build, but on availability of key Unix networking
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related features.......
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i
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--[0311]--
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[0312] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) Linux_Activists 01/06/92 22:33 (65 lines)
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Subject: Re: SVGA-alphanum. modes
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Date: Mon, 6 Jan 92 22:25:05 -0500
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From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
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To: drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU
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Cc: d88-man@nada.kth.se, linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU's message of Mon, 06 Jan 92 19:47:25 MST,
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Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
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Date: Mon, 06 Jan 92 19:47:25 MST
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From: drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU
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I disagree. The actual mode setting will be called ONCE when the
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Xserver initializes.
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Well, it would be called when the X server initializes and each time you
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switch bach and forth between Virtual Consoles. I suppose you are right
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that it won't be called enough to make it worthwhile. I still would be
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nervous about the BIOS code doing something funky like messing with the
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interrupts and what not, but that's probably just an irrational fear on
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my part.
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DOS does not need to be trapped. You run one copy of DOS per VM -
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this saves MANY reentrancy problems, etc. As far as what needs to be
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trapped -
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Well, in my conception DOS calls would be trapped and emulated by
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calling the appropriate Linux filesystem routine, so that DOS programs
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would be able to use Linux filesystems and Linux devices. Once we get
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the MS-DOS filesystem working in Linux, it could even get to MS-DOS
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filesystems that way. (!)
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The first cut implementation probably would just run native DOS in each
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task, though, since that is much easier.
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It is a nice idea, and would make an incredible summer project
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after some one has ported X11R5 to Linux.
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Agreed; this would be a very big project! You actually don't need to
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port X11 R5, though. It could just be done on top of Virtual Consoles,
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and in fact it may be easier to do it that way, and worry about the X
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interface later.
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We probably shouldn't worry about it too much until after we get Linux
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in a much more polished state, though.
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I'd be more worried about getting X11 up in the first place as distribution
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for R5 is around 150 megs.
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Well, you don't need to grab the whole thing. The X library is 3 meg,
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and the Xt toolkit is another 1.1 meg. You may also need the Xmu library
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which is ~350k. Then the device dependent portion of the X server is
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800k (and you don't need all of it), and the device independent portion
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of the X server is 1200k or so. (All of these sizes are source only,
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with no RCS directories).
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A lot of the X11R5 distribution are big, (somewhat) useless things like
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games and demo programs, and then there are the big, slow, and really
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useless things like Motif. If you strip out all of those programs, X11
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really isn't as big as you might think....
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All of this really doesn't matter until we get sockets and networking
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running, at which point SLIP, NFS and SCSI support might be in the
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kernel already, making the whole space issue moot. My, it's nice to
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dream, isn't it! :-)
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- Ted
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--[0312]--
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[0313] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen. Clawson) Linux_Activists 01/06/92 23:10 (14 lines)
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Subject: tseng et4000 detection
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From: sclawson@cadehp10.eng.utah.edu (Stephen. Clawson)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Mon, 6 Jan 92 21:04:19 MST
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I just installed the svga detection patches to the kernel, and
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while it is *very* nice to be able to use a bigger screen, the auto
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detection didn't seem to work on my system. I'm running a 40Mhz 386
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with a Diamond Speedstar Plus HiColor, which uses the Tseng ET4000
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chipset. Has anyone else had this problem? I had to force the system
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into realizing I have a tseng card to get it to work.
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steve
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// sclawson@cadehp0.eng.utah.edu - University of Utah
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--[0313]--
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[0314] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter MacDonald) Linux_Activists 01/07/92 00:56 (25 lines)
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Subject: Re: SVGA and the kitchen sink.
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Date: Mon, 6 Jan 92 21:49:06 PST
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From: pmacdona@sanjuan.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Two things. First I think bios and therefore V86 access will be required
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if for no other reason than because two many clone vendors rely on it
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to deliver "compatibility".
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Second. Before X11 can even be looked at, another feature will be
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required. That is, shared dynamic linked libraries. I just finished
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working on a Decstation 3100 for 6 months using Ultrix which does
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not have this. The executables are monsterous, and the only thing
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they eat more of than disk space is memory. Plus, if Linux is to
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be distributed over ftp, and we wish to permit access to distributing
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binaries, then much net-width can be saved. But most of all, since
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Linux is fast evolving, if we want to avoid frequent recompiles of
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all utilities every time a library routine changes (such as job
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control requires) then we better get shared libs fast.
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The moral of the tale is, if anyone out there is currently idle,
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and knows something about compilers, and is willing to tackle
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shared libs, please step forward at the sound of the tone.
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^G
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--[0314]--
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[0315] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rwo-Hsi Wang) Linux_Activists 01/07/92 01:34 (15 lines)
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Subject: The way to X11. (was Re: SVGA and the kitchen sink.)
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From: rhwang@cs.utexas.edu (Rwo-Hsi Wang)
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Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1992 00:26:57 -0600
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Peter (pmacdona@sanjuan.UVic.CA) wrote:
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> Before X11 can even be looked at, another feature will be
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> required. That is, shared dynamic linked libraries.
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Could someone give us a list of features (preferably in the order of
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implementation precedence) that are required (and yet to be implemented)
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before X11 can be ported to Linux? I'm curious about how far away
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Linux is from X11. Thanks!
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Regards,
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Rwo-Hsi
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--[0315]--
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[0316] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SMTP@FINHUTC.hut.fi) Linux_Activists 01/07/92 02:19 (43 lines)
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Subject: Undeliverable Mail
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Resent-From: dyslexic jim the domain mangler <V5068U%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@FINHUTC.hut.fi>
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Resent-To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Tue, 07 Jan 92 09:11:16 EET
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From: <SMTP@FINHUTC.hut.fi>
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To: <V5068U@TEMPLEVM.BITNET>
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<V5068U%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@FINHUTC.hut.fi>
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Subject: lp support & daemonology
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To: linux-activists@joker.hut.cs.fi
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hi all;
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I am working on a print spooler daemon to go along with the lp driver
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and have a question about the general init/rc thang. I have installed a test ve
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rsion of my spooler ( it's really an exec that has the personality of a daemon
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:-) ) in the /etc/rc file but the question is this:
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When a person logs out of bash, the lpd is still busy opening & deleting
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files. i.e. it is not safe to turn of the machine & it is possible that it may
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seem like nothing is going on. so, is there/will there/should there be some sor
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t of rc0 like AT&T uses for shutdown? what do you folks w/uucp do? will this be
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in 0.12 & if not it might be a nice project after the lp is mature.
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I have fixed up a bunch of bugs in the lp driver & will post a new versi
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on in a day or so. The lpd uses a printcap file & reads the disk as little as
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possible to build its queue. The lp should be Posix-compliant and will have a
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lot of the features of the BSD lp filter: tab-expand, margins, form size, &
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font, all printcap set. What won't be for a while is queue control.
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&& thanks for all the info & replies.
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v5068u@vm.temple.edu jim wiegand
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[0317] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (d88-man@nada.kth.se) Linux_Activists 01/07/92 03:25 (20 lines)
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Subject: Re: tseng et4000 detection
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Date: Tue, 7 Jan 92 08:58:23 +0100
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From: d88-man@nada.kth.se
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi, sclawson@cadehp10.eng.utah.edu
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Linus has had the same prob. The strange thing is that the code to do the
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'guessing' is taken from a book/vga-doc files that says that it has been
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tested to work properly ! If anybody knows how to do it please let me know.
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I have read the postings about BIOS or no BIOS in SVGA-handling, and I would
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just like to say (in my deffence :-) that this is just a small hack to help
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people having bigger screens (remember Linux is still beta-version) and it
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is not meant to be installed for good. I will work on a stand alone program
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to do mode-switching from a runing shell, it's just that that is A LOT more
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work. This code was finnished in a rush, mainly to let people test the 'feature'
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and to test the somewhat inconsistent card-detection code (I do only have one
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card to test on :-) And for that purpose the BIOS can be used since it's just a
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int-call from the setup which is running in native mode so the BIOS-call there
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really do no harm, it's just a MUCH more simple way of doing it instead of
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doing direct I/O to the card. And by all means nobody is forced to use the
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patch :-)
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/Mats Andersson (d88-man@nada.kth.se)
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[0318] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (d88-man@nada.kth.se) Linux_Activists 01/07/92 14:28 (75 lines)
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Subject: SVGA...
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Date: Tue, 7 Jan 92 19:23:33 +0100
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From: d88-man@nada.kth.se
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Hi again,
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I'm getting more and more confused about this, trying out the code on a
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computer at the place I work it detected a Paradise as a Genoa ! And if one
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looks at the code for Genoa this is mighty impressive how it could !
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Anyway here are two more versions of the Tseng detection, since I guess
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most people have Tseng or Trident those might be most interesting to have.
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Just change the old Tseng part to one of these and try. Please let me know if
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you get either of them working.
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/Mats Andersson (d88-man@nada.kth.se)
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Attempt #1:
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notrid: mov dx,#0x3cd ! Check Tseng 'clues'
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in al,dx ! Could things be this simple ! :-)
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mov bl,al
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mov al#0x55
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out dx,al
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in al,dx
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mov ah,al
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mov al,bl
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out dx,al
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cmp ah,#0x55
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jne notsen
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lea si,dsctseng
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lea di,motseng
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lea cx,selmod
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jmp cx
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Attempt #2:
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notrid: mov dx,#0x3bf ! Check Tseng 'clues' Acoording to
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mov al,#0x03 ! Ferrano
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out dx,al
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mov dx,#0x3cc
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in al,dx
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mov dx,#0x3b8
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and al,#0x01
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jz even
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mov dx,#0x3d8
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even: mov al,0xa0
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out dx,al
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call setATC
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inc dx
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in al,dx
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mov bl,al
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call setATC
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mov al,bl
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xor al,#0x10
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mov bh,al
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out dx,al
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call setATC
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inc dx
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in al,dx
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mov ah,al
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call setATC
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mov al,bl
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out dx,al
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cmp ah,bh
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jne notsen
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lea si,dsctseng
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lea di,motseng
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lea cx,selmod
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jmp cx
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setATC: mov dx,#0x3da
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in al,dx
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mov dx,#0x3c0
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mov al,#0x16
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out dx,al
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ret
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--[0318]--
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[0319] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ari Lemmke) Linux_Activists 01/07/92 14:32 (27 lines)
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Subject: lp support & daemonology
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Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1992 21:22:31 +0200
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From: Ari Lemmke <arl@zen.cs.hut.fi>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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From: "jim wiegand[v5068u].vm.temple.edu" <V5068U%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@FINHUTC.hut.fi>
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Subject: lp support & daemonology
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hi all;
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I am working on a print spooler daemon to go along with the lp driver
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and have a question about the general init/rc thang. I have installed a test ve
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rsion of my spooler ( it's really an exec that has the personality of a daemon
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:-) ) in the /etc/rc file but the question is this:
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When a person logs out of bash, the lpd is still busy opening & deleting
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files. i.e. it is not safe to turn of the machine & it is possible that it may
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seem like nothing is going on. so, is there/will there/should there be some sor
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t of rc0 like AT&T uses for shutdown? what do you folks w/uucp do? will this be
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in 0.12 & if not it might be a nice project after the lp is mature.
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I have fixed up a bunch of bugs in the lp driver & will post a new versi
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on in a day or so. The lpd uses a printcap file & reads the disk as little as
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possible to build its queue. The lp should be Posix-compliant and will have a
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lot of the features of the BSD lp filter: tab-expand, margins, form size, &
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font, all printcap set. What won't be for a while is queue control.
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&& thanks for all the info & replies.
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v5068u@vm.temple.edu jim wiegand
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--[0319]--
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[0320] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter MacDonald) Linux_Activists 01/07/92 14:34 (13 lines)
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Subject: VC final patches
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Date: Tue, 7 Jan 92 08:48:38 PST
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From: pmacdona@sanjuan.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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I mailed the final VC patches to Linus two days ago, and I just heard from
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him that he never got them. I had both mailed a single big file and
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a pile of split ones, but I guess even they must have been too big.
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Well, I have uploaded vc.tar.Z to incoming on nic (For you ARL).
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Linus, can you get them from there.
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PS: this includes the new tty_io.c patch which has pseudo ttys working,
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so throw away the last patch I sent you.
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--[0320]--
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[0321] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John T Kohl) Linux_Activists 01/07/92 14:34 (15 lines)
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Subject: Re: 486 problem
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Date: Tue, 7 Jan 92 11:25:50 PST
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Cc: nicholas@cs.uwa.oz.au (Nicholas Yue)
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In-Reply-To: [306]
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From: John T Kohl <jtkohl@cs.berkeley.edu>
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Reply-To: jtkohl@cs.berkeley.edu
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Yesterday I said:
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> The problem was the BIOS "Fast A20 Gate Option".
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Actually, that wasn't it. At the same time, I upgraded to 4M simms
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rather than 1M simms, and the problem went away. Oh well...?
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John
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--[0321]-- (pref = [0306])
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[0322] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) Linux_Activists 01/07/92 14:35 (69 lines)
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Subject: Re: SVGA and the kitchen sink.
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Date: Tue, 7 Jan 92 11:28:26 -0500
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From: tytso@Athena.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: Peter MacDonald's message of Mon, 6 Jan 92 21:49:06 PST,
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Reply-To: tytso@Athena.MIT.EDU
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Date: Mon, 6 Jan 92 21:49:06 PST
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From: pmacdona@sanjuan.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
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Second. Before X11 can even be looked at, another feature will be
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required. That is, shared dynamic linked libraries. I just finished
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working on a Decstation 3100 for 6 months using Ultrix which does
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not have this. The executables are monsterous, and the only thing
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they eat more of than disk space is memory. Plus, if Linux is to
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be distributed over ftp, and we wish to permit access to distributing
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binaries, then much net-width can be saved. But most of all, since
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Linux is fast evolving, if we want to avoid frequent recompiles of
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all utilities every time a library routine changes (such as job
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control requires) then we better get shared libs fast.
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A couple of points. First of all, job-control does *not* require
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recompiling all of the utilities. /bin/bash needs to be recompiled with
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the job control commands built in, of course, but that's about it.
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Secondly, many of the changes which I (at least) have been talking about
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requiring recompiling all of the utilities because they mean that the
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system /usr/include files would have to be change, and the structures
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passed back from the kernel would change as the sizes changed. A
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dynamically linked library wouldn't solve this problem.
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Finally, people should be aware that many shared libraries implemented
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under Unix are not fully "dynamically linked" --- that is, when you
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change the library, you often have to relink all of the utilities or
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they won't work at all. These designs are great for conserving disk
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space, but they're hell for evolving systems, because with statically
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linked programs, at least you know they will always work as long as the
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kernel interface remains constant. With shared libraries, often times
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replacing the library will cause all the programs which relied on the
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old version of the library to break, even if the kernel hasn't changed
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at all. It is possible to do it right, but whoever tackles this one
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needs to be careful about the design....
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From: rhwang@cs.utexas.edu (Rwo-Hsi Wang)
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Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1992 00:26:57 -0600
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Could someone give us a list of features (preferably in the order of
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implementation precedence) that are required (and yet to be implemented)
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before X11 can be ported to Linux? I'm curious about how far away
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Linux is from X11. Thanks!
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Well, I believe the only unimplemented feature which is absolutely
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required is Berkeley-style sockets (or a socket emulation library,
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although the real thing would be preferable, IMHO). There are a lot of
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features which would be helpful but not required. They include:
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* Networking code that goes with the socket() implementation
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* Symbolic links, to make dealing with the source tree easier
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* SCSI disk driver, to make it easier to hook up big fast disks
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so you have room for the complete X11 distribution
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* Shared libraries, to make the (many) X executables smaller and
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usable on systems with small amounts of memory.
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I suspect that implementing the above items could be done in parallel
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with porting the X server, once we have BSD-style sockets. The port of
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the X server itself may not be trivial, so one should not discount that;
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however, getting the X clients to build should be fairly easy, as long
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as you have the disk space.
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- Ted
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--[0322]--
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[0323] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Drew Eckhardt) Linux_Activists 01/07/92 17:00 (9 lines)
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Subject: symbolic links
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Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1992 14:47:16 -0700
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From: Drew Eckhardt <drew@kinglear.cs.colorado.edu>
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To: drew@kinglear.cs.colorado.edu, linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi,
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Is anybody implementing symbolic links so links can exist across
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file systems?
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Looking at running SLIPP, etc?
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--[0323]--
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[0324] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Linus Benedict Torvalds) Linux_Activists 01/07/92 17:17 (16 lines)
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Subject: Re: symbolic links
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1992 00:07:02 +0200
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From: Linus Benedict Torvalds <torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi>
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In-Reply-To: Drew Eckhardt's message as of Jan 7, 14:47
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To: Drew Eckhardt <drew@kinglear.cs.colorado.edu>,
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Drew Eckhardt: "symbolic links" (Jan 7, 14:47):
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>
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> Is anybody implementing symbolic links so links can exist across
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> file systems?
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I've been meaning to do these for a long time: but something has always
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come in the way - this time it was the VFS patches: I want those in
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place before I start changing the fs structure again. If 0.12 is more
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stable than 0.11 (ie not so many patches), I'll do it then.
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Linus
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--[0324]--
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[0325] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Teresa Selling) Linux_Activists 01/07/92 22:58 (18 lines)
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Subject: micro-emacs
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Date: Tue, 7 Jan 92 22:50:20 est
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From: Teresa Selling <tselling@natasha.iusb.indiana.edu>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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I have been trying to use uemacs, but am having some trouble with saving
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a file. ^X^S I thought was supposed to save a file...but doesn't seem to
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work. How do I manage to save a file I've edited.
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Also my computer doesn't seem to want to do a warm-reboot. Is this normal?
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I have to use the reset button.
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One more thing...when using compress to decompress a large file (the manual
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I think) I get out of memory type errors. I have 8 meg of ram, so that
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doesn't make sense to me. Any suggestions.
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Thanks.
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Teresa
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--[0325]--
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[0326] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Yanek Martinson) Linux_Activists 01/07/92 23:48 (27 lines)
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Subject: lpdemon, init, shutdown, uucp
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From: Yanek Martinson <yanek@mthvax.cs.miami.edu>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Tue, 7 Jan 92 23:41:55 EST
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Cc: V5068U@TEMPLEVM.BITNET
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In-Reply-To: <9201070713.AA15276@joker.cs.hut.fi>; from "SMTP@FINHUTC.hut.fi" at Jan 7, 92 9:11 am
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> and have a question about the general init/rc thang. I have installed a test ve
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> rsion of my spooler ( it's really an exec that has the personality of a daemon
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> :-) ) in the /etc/rc file but the question is this:
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> When a person logs out of bash, the lpd is still busy opening & deleting
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> files. i.e. it is not safe to turn of the machine & it is possible that it may
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> seem like nothing is going on. so, is there/will there/should there be some sor
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> t of rc0 like AT&T uses for shutdown?
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When my init is done, what you do is start lp, gettys, and any other
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such stuff with runlevel 2. So they get killed when runlevel changes
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to 's'. Then write a shutdown script that sets run level to s, then
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cleans everything up, kills any remaining demons, unmounts
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filesystems, etc. Then syncs a few times, and says "Ready to power
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down or reboot" and just sit there.
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> what do you folks w/uucp do? will this be
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There is no uucp for linux yet as far as I know. When I get done with
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init and login next thing I'll do is try to get Taylor UUCP working.
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t is a public domain uucp, pretty comapatible, and with some extra
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options..
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--[0326]--
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[0327] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Pietro Caselli) Linux_Activists 01/08/92 00:22 (24 lines)
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Subject: Yup! ... a bug.
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: 7 Jan 92 10:36:39 MET (Tue)
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From: zaphod@petruz.sublink.org (Pietro Caselli)
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I know 0.12 is on the final rush anyway there is a little strange bug with
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0.11 I cant trace off.
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I just finished porting an AT&T uucp on Linux ( a few more beta-test and I'll
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post it on nic.funet.fi ), well after polling my host and after getting my
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CARRIER LOST ( I said I need some tests :-) ) Linux hangs with "ls -l" !!!
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My question is Why ?
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Anyone had a similar problem ?
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P.S I have a tcsh6.01 working on Linux, I need also some tests on It ... if
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people on the mailing list are interested I'll post it too.
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Ciao.
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Pietro Caselli |
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internet: zaphod@petruz.sublink.org | IF YOU MEET THE BUDDHA
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: pietro@deis33.cineca.it | ON THE ROAD,KILL HIM.
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Mail : V. Pietro Mattiolo, 4 |
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40139 Bologna ITALY |
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--[0327]--
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[0328] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (d88-man@nada.kth.se) Linux_Activists 01/08/92 03:57 (10 lines)
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Subject: Re: micro-emacs
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 92 09:49:03 +0100
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From: d88-man@nada.kth.se
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi, tselling@natasha.iusb.indiana.edu
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saving in uemacs: ^X S not ^X^S as in the real one.
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No warm reboot: I have the same problem as do more people I know of, the
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problem is (as I know it) the AMI-bios in my computer, do you have an AMI ?
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If so that's almost surely the reason. Anybody knows why ? I haven't looked
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into it. You always have the red button ... :-)
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/Mats Andersson (d88-man@nada.kth.se)
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--[0328]--
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[0329] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (d88-man@nada.kth.se) Linux_Activists 01/08/92 04:31 (13 lines)
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Subject: SVGA (again...)
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 92 10:26:11 +0100
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From: d88-man@nada.kth.se
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Linus has tested a new aproach to detecting Tseng which works. I have also
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looked closer at the code for Genoa, I had screwed things up a bit so to say.
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I think that's why it detected a Paradise as a Genoa :-)
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Anyway I have uploaded a file called newsvga.tar.Z to tsx-11 and nic which
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include the new Tseng and the corrected (hopefully :-) Genoa. It is a new
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diff which should be applied to the original setup.s not the patched one.
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I cross my fingers that this one works :-)
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/Mats Andersson (d88-man@nada.kth.se)
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--[0329]--
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[0330] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mika Matti Jalava) Linux_Activists 01/08/92 05:36 (21 lines)
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Subject: what's wrong with ESDI?
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From: Mika Matti Jalava <r36110m@kaira.hut.fi>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 92 12:25:29 EET
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What might be the problem with my ESDI drive that I've tried to get
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running with linux? It is a Magtron MT-4115E and the controller is
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Joincom.
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The problems: I start linux with root on floppy. I get a message like
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"unexpected hd interrupt", but immediately after that "partition table
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ok.". I try fdisk, and that tells just right what's there on the disk
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(a 32 M primary dos and the rest of 115 M as an extended "don't
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use"-partition), but right after that an I/O-error, and if I remember
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it was on on device /dev/hd5! I don't even have a second drive. It
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might have been hd0 though, I'll check it. Anyway, what's this
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unexpected interrupt? I think it shouldn't be too much work making the
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ESDI drive work, as it "half works" even now. The 20 M MFM drive I'm
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using now is getting a bit small...
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Mika
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--[0330]--
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[0331] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (LCDR Michael E. Dobson) Linux_Activists 01/08/92 09:15 (24 lines)
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Subject: Re: lpdemon, init, shutdown, uucp
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From: "LCDR Michael E. Dobson" <rdc30@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil>
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To: yanek@mthvax.cs.miami.edu (Yanek Martinson)
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 92 8:50:22 EST
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi (Linux Mailing List)
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In-Reply-To: <9201080441.AA08208@mthvax.cs.miami.edu>; from "Yanek Martinson" at Jan 7, 92 11:41 pm
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>
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> > what do you folks w/uucp do? will this be
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>
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> There is no uucp for linux yet as far as I know. When I get done with
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> init and login next thing I'll do is try to get Taylor UUCP working.
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> t is a public domain uucp, pretty comapatible, and with some extra
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> options..
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>
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There are several of us working on it. I've played with both the Taylor
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package and Will Rose's UUCP 1.2 The former needs quite a few library
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functions that haven't been implemented yet. I've made some progress with
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the latter but I haven't finished yet, no time :-(
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--
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Mike Dobson, Sys Admin for | Internet: rdc30@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil
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nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil | UUCP: ...uunet!mimsy!nmrdc1!rdc30
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AT&T 3B2/600G Sys V R 3.2.2 | BITNET: dobson@usuhsb or nrd0mxd@vmnmdsc
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WIN/TCP for 3B2 | MCI-Mail: 377-2719 or 0003772719@mcimail.com
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--[0331]--
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[0332] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robert Duncan) Linux_Activists 01/08/92 11:49 (23 lines)
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Subject: AMI BIOS (was: micro-emacs)
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 92 11:38:37 EST
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From: duncan@erim.org (Robert Duncan)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: d88-man@nada.kth.se's message of Wed, 8 Jan 92 09:49:03 +0100 <9201080849.AA21293@dront.nada.kth.se>
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I am running Linux on a 33MHz 386dx clone with an AMI BIOS.
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I have never had any problem doing a three finger salute (warm
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reboot).
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For some reason though, kermit (the binary from tsx-11) doesn't
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seem to be working, although other copies work fine under both
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Minix and msdos. Any ideas? Should I just get the package from
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columbia and build it myself?
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p----------------------------------------------q
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| Robert H. Duncan |
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| Environmental Research Institute of Michigan |
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| PO Box 134001 |
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| Ann Arbor, MI 48113-4001 |
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| (313)994-1200 ext.2880 |
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| Internet: duncan@erim.org |
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b----------------------------------------------d
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--[0332]--
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[0333] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter Cooper) Linux_Activists 01/09/92 00:53 (87 lines)
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Subject: bugs in linux 0.11 and Q's about alarm()
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1992 14:34:56 +0900
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From: comrade@uniwa.uwa.oz.au (Peter Cooper)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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First a few Q's about the alarm() call.
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I had the impression that if a 'slow' system call was processing and
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an alarm signal was recieved, that the slow call would return EINTR.
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Is this in fact the behaviour expected? I have a program that relies on
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the fact that the system call is aborted with EINTR rather than simply
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being restarted by the kernel. (I have hacked my kernel so that
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tty_read() return -EINTR, rather than -ERESTARTSYS )
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Does POSIX say anything about this??
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Also:
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There is a bug in kernel/chr_drv/tty_io.c
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At the end of the tty_read() fn, there is a line that reads
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current->alarm = oldalarm;
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This SHOULD read
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if (flag)
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current_alarm = oldalarm;
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Flag is set if tty_read uses it's own alarm.
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The effect of this bug was to produce 2 alarm signals if an alarm occured
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while read()'ing instead of the single signal it should produce.
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Also:
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Something very odd seems to be happening when there is a key in
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the keyboard buffer.
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I have code like:
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main() {
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signal(SIGALRM, handler);
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alarm(2);
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read(0, buff, 40);
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printf("All ok\n");
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}
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handler() { printf("Alarm\n"); fflush(stdout); }
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Now this works fine if you just run it. In 2 seconds it tells you that the
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alarm went off. BUT if you run it and type a key before the alarm goes off,
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then the alarm doesn't occur untill the buffer is empty. i.e. untill you
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backspace to the beginning of the line, or you hit return.
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NOTES: The alarm definately doesn't occur. I have code that has the alarm simply
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set a variable, and it only runs once, no matter how long you wait before
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emptying the buffer.
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What on earth is happening when there is a key in the buffer? It happens
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in other places as well. Try doing...
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cat < /dev/tty4 > /dev/tty64
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cat < /dev/tty64 > /dev/tty4
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(note. I have the virtual consoles installed. )
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Then get a bunch of stuff comming down the serial port.
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If you type a key while it is comming down, it will stop dead until you
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delete it or hit return, regardless that bytes are pouring continously
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down the serial line. I am very confused as to why this occurs...
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FYI:
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I have a 486/33 with a 120Mb IDE drive. I have jobcontrol and
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lvc-4th installed. I am using shoelace to boot. I have 4Mb of
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memory.
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PS: Just an aside: Does anyone know why
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doshell /dev/tty64 /bin/sh
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doesn't properly attach a shell to the serial port?? Dialing in through
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the modem doesn't get you a shell.
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Also, when you do by rather incredible contortions do get a shell on it,
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you don't get a prompt
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(We achived it by dailingthe machine under DOS, rebooting to
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linux without hangingup and then running doshell /dev/tty64
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/bin/sh. running doshell from /etc/rc DOESN'T work. doing it by
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hand produces a shell with no prompt. Vi doesn't complain about
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it not haveing a term to work on. What gives? anyone ?? )
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--[0333]--
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[0334] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter MacDonald) Linux_Activists 01/09/92 02:27 (178 lines)
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Subject: a df for linux
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 92 23:21:28 PST
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From: pmacdona@sanjuan.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Here is my quick hack for df for linux. Of course, soon VFS
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will come along and more will have to be done, but for now, this should work.
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PS. I did this because by reflex I keep typing df to see if I'm full.
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****CUT HERE *********************************************************
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/* df.c: Copywrite (92) Peter MacDonald: distribute freely, don't restrict. */
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#include <sys/time.h>
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#include <sys/types.h>
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#include <sys/stat.h>
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#include <fcntl.h>
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#include <unistd.h>
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#include <stdio.h>
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#include <linux/fs.h>
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char *hdr1="\n inodes inodes inodes blocks blocks blocks mount";
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char *hdr2= "device total used free total used free point";
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char *hdr3= "--------------------------------------------------------------------";
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char *fmt = "%-9s %-7d %-7d %-7d %-7d %-7d %-7d %s\n";
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void do_df(char *dev, char *dir);
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int main(int argc, char *argv[])
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{ int i;
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sync();
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puts(hdr1);
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puts(hdr2);
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if (argc != 1)
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for (i=1; i<argc; i++)
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do_df(argv[i],"");
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else
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{ FILE *F = fopen("/etc/mtab","r");
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if (!F)
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{ fprintf(stderr,"/etc/mtab not found\n");
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exit(1);
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}
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do
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{ char buf[200], dev[40], dir[150];
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fgets(buf,200,F);
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if (feof(F) || (strlen(buf)<6))
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break;
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sscanf(buf,"%s %s",dev,dir);
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do_df(dev,dir);
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} while (1);
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}
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exit(0);
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}
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#define oops(str,arg) { fprintf(stderr,str,arg); close(fd); return; }
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int fd;
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int nibblemap[] = { 0,1,1,2,1,2,2,3,1,2,2,3,2,3,3,4 };
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ino_t count(unsigned numblocks, unsigned numbits)
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{ unsigned i, j, end, sum = 0;
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char buf[BLOCK_SIZE];
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for (i=0; (i<numblocks) && numbits; i++)
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{
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if (read(fd,buf,sizeof(buf))<0)
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return(0);
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if (numbits >= (8*BLOCK_SIZE))
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{
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end = BLOCK_SIZE;
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numbits -= 8*BLOCK_SIZE;
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}
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else
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{ int tmp;
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end = numbits >> 3;
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numbits &= 0x7;
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tmp = buf[end] & ((1<<numbits)-1);
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sum += nibblemap[tmp&0xf] + nibblemap[(tmp>>4)&0xf];
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numbits = 0;
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}
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for (j=0; j<end; j++)
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sum += nibblemap[buf[j] & 0xf] + nibblemap[(buf[j]>>4)&0xf];
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}
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return(sum);
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}
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void do_df(char *dev, char *dir)
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{ int it,iu,bt,bu;
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struct super_block supstruct;
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if ((fd=open(dev,O_RDONLY))<0)
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oops("df can't open device: %s",dev);
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lseek(fd,BLOCK_SIZE,SEEK_SET);
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if (read(fd,(char*)&supstruct,sizeof(struct super_block))
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!= sizeof(struct super_block))
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oops("super block unreadable: %s",dev);
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lseek(fd,BLOCK_SIZE*2,SEEK_SET);
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if (supstruct.s_magic != SUPER_MAGIC)
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oops("not a valid file system: %s",dev);
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it = supstruct.s_ninodes;
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iu = count(supstruct.s_imap_blocks,supstruct.s_ninodes+1);
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bt = supstruct.s_nzones << supstruct.s_log_zone_size;
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bu = count(supstruct.s_zmap_blocks,supstruct.s_nzones) <<
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supstruct.s_log_zone_size;
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printf(fmt,dev,it,iu,it-iu,bt,bu,bt-bu,dir);
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}
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table
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[0335] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter MacDonald) Linux_Activists 01/09/92 02:42 (5 lines)
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Subject: df
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 92 23:27:37 PST
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From: pmacdona@sanjuan.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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You might want to add a "puts(hdr3)" to main in df.c. It looks "nicer".
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[0336] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SMTP@FINHUTC.hut.fi) Linux_Activists 01/09/92 03:14 (158 lines)
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Subject: Simple su utility
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Resent-From: jim wiegand <V5068U%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@FINHUTC.hut.fi>
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Resent-To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Thu, 09 Jan 92 09:56:26 EET
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From: <SMTP@FINHUTC.hut.fi>
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To: <V5068U@TEMPLEVM.BITNET>
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hi all;
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this is a shameless hack of the BSD su. even though i cut out
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90% of the code it will still give you both a simple su shell
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and a login shell. i needed it to test out setuid/setgid for the
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lp stuff, since it fiddles with the permissions ala BSD.
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enjoy!
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[0337] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brian Syme) Linux_Activists 01/09/92 04:48 (22 lines)
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Subject: linux partition trashed by windows 3 (maybe..)
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1992 09:23:41 +0000
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From: Brian Syme <gxlr07@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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AAGH!
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This is the second time its happened - the first time I put it down to some
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0.10 fs bugs, but this time some text in the corruption gave it away as
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windows 3 (and in particular Word Perfect for Windows - again.) Since it
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only seems to happen when WP4W has been used I'd guess that it's either WP4W
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itself, or windows 3 swapping a large program (never had any problems with
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write, etc.) Has anyone else had such a problem? [I know this isn't really
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a linux problem, but..]
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Never mind - I had full backups, of course [ha ha :-(]. A question: is there
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any way, or how hard would it be to get a way of mapping a given range of
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physical memory into a user process's address space - I'm thinking of the
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full screen addressing provided by many (most?) vga cards..
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--
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Brian
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[0338] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Linus Benedict Torvalds) Linux_Activists 01/09/92 06:46 (38 lines)
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Subject: Re: bugs in linux 0.11 and Q's about alarm()
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1992 13:39:05 +0200
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From: Linus Benedict Torvalds <torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi>
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In-Reply-To: Peter Cooper's message as of Jan 9, 14:34
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To: comrade@uniwa.uwa.oz.au (Peter Cooper), linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Peter Cooper: "bugs in linux 0.11 and Q's about alarm()" (Jan 9, 14:34):
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>
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> There is a bug in kernel/chr_drv/tty_io.c
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>
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> At the end of the tty_read() fn, there is a line that reads
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>
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> current->alarm = oldalarm;
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This is corrected in my version (and will be in 0.12) - the alarm is no
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longer used, as I got tired of the contortions needed, so I added a
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simple "timeout" to the task-structure. Thus system calls with a
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timeout now don't need to mess with saving alarm etc. Using alarm had
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another problem: if it was blocked, the task wouldn't be awakened by it.
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This was no problem in versions < 0.11, but the current version needed
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something better.
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> PS: Just an aside: Does anyone know why
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> doshell /dev/tty64 /bin/sh
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> doesn't properly attach a shell to the serial port?? Dialing in through
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> the modem doesn't get you a shell.
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I have hacked on the tty's quite a bit, and although I never saw this
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problem, I hope it is corrected: I simplified some things in the
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drivers, and I think it should work (also, I've hacked pty's till they
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aren't recognizeable: I think I have the stalling bug fixed.)
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While changing (and simplifying) the virtual consoles, I also changed
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them to use EGA/VGA screen memory, so that they won't take up space in
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the kernel. This means that the vc's in 0.12 will work only on a
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EGA/VGA, and I hope that won't be any problem. It shouldn't be too hard
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to patch it back to use a kernel buffer though.
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Linus
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[0340] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) Linux_Activists 01/09/92 13:05 (39 lines)
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Subject: Re: bugs in linux 0.11 and Q's about alarm()
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 92 12:57:18 -0500
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From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
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To: comrade@uniwa.uwa.oz.au
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: Peter Cooper's message of Thu, 9 Jan 1992 14:34:56 +0900,
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Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1992 14:34:56 +0900
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From: comrade@uniwa.uwa.oz.au (Peter Cooper)
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Is this in fact the behaviour expected? I have a program that relies on
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the fact that the system call is aborted with EINTR rather than simply
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being restarted by the kernel. (I have hacked my kernel so that
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tty_read() return -EINTR, rather than -ERESTARTSYS )
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Does POSIX say anything about this??
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POSIX doesn't say a whole lot about this, and it's somewhat confusing
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what it does say. The problem is that 99% of the code out there
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*doesn't* check for EINTR, so restarting a system call generally works
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as a better default. The problem is that you do lose in the case where
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you're expecting the system call to be interrupted.
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You don't need to hack the kernel to change what tty_read() returns to
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solve your problem, however. You just need to set the sigaction flag
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SIG_INTERRUPT for the alarm signal, and then the signal handling code in
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the kernel will set things up so that the system call returns with EINTR
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after the signal handler is finished.
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It may make sense to set the default flag for the alarm signal so that
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SA_INTERRUPT is set. But then again, it may not. I suspect that no
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matter which default you pick, some set of programs will lose because
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they're either expecting the EINTR and they don't get it, or they're not
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prepared to handle the EINTR and they die when they get it.
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Fortunately, there is a programming interface to select which behavior
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you want, but that may mean that you need to recompile your program to
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set the sigaction flag in order to make things work.
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- Ted
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--[0340]--
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[0341] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Teresa Selling) Linux_Activists 01/09/92 20:01 (10 lines)
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Subject: keyboard when recompiling linux
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From: Teresa Selling <tselling@natasha.iusb.indiana.edu>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 92 19:53:09 EST
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I have just recently started using linux. With some help from people
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here I have got it up and running. Shoelace seems to work ok as well.
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But when I recompile the image and attempt to use it my keyboard is messed
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up. I assume that it is set for other than USA for default keyboard, but
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I cannot find where that is set. Any suggestions?
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--[0341]--
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[0342] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Russ Nelson) Linux_Activists 01/09/92 20:30 (28 lines)
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Subject: Networking.
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 92 17:20:33 EST
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From: Russ Nelson <nelson@cheetah.ece.clarkson.edu>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Hi, all. I'm not on the list (yet), so if you reply to this, include me
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in the CC:.
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Eventually, people are going to want to do networking on Linux. And
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they're going to want to do it with a bunch of different Ethernet
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boards. Well, there is a bunch of freely copyable (copyleft to be
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specific) MS-DOS Ethernet drivers called the Clarkson packet driver
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collection. I'm the editor of that collection.
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These drivers all use a common skeleton that interfaces between FTP
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Software's Packet Driver Specification, and the code that's specific
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to each card. That code could be reused if someone could find a way
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to keep most of the entry points identical, or at least similar. If
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the entry points into the device-specific code need to be changed,
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maybe we could find a way to do it so that all the drivers can get
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ported at the same time?
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I'd do it myself, but I've never seen the source for a Unix Ethernet driver.
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Does anyone know how such code is structured? I've got a book on Unix device
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drivers, so I ought to be able to understand it if I could just see it...
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--russ <nelson@sun.soe.clarkson.edu> I'm proud to be a humble Quaker.
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Peace is not the absence of war. Peace is the presence of a system for
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resolving conflicts before war becomes necessary. War never creates peace.
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--[0342]--
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[0343] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Teresa Selling) Linux_Activists 01/09/92 20:44 (10 lines)
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Subject: still a keyboard problem
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 92 20:38:57 est
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From: Teresa Selling <tselling@natasha.iusb.indiana.edu>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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I changed the config.h and mused make on kernel directory and src direcotryectory,
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but though it seems aI have a slightly differcent keyboard its definitlely noNOT
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a usUS-101 enhanced keyboard. Namely I cannot find < > keys and - / are on
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the worngrong keys etc. Wheyy is it theat the original image works ok but I
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cannot get a new one to work?
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--[0343]--
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[0344] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Teresa Selling) Linux_Activists 01/09/92 20:53 (9 lines)
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Subject: compressdecompressing large files
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From: Teresa Selling <tselling@natasha.iusb.indiana.edu>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 92 20:45:26 EST
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I am also having trouble decompressing a ~177K file. A 170K or so file
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decompresses fine. Have I hit a limit on compress or can more memory
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be allocated? I get out of memory and segmentation fault errors.
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I have 8 meg of memory, so it seems strange to run out of memory.
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--[0344]--
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[0345] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen. Clawson) Linux_Activists 01/09/92 22:27 (19 lines)
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Subject: Re: still a keyboard problem
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From: sclawson@cadesm12.eng.utah.edu (Stephen. Clawson)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 92 20:19:14 MST
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In-Reply-To: <9201100139.AA06101@joker.cs.hut.fi>; from "Teresa Selling" at Jan 9, 92 8:38 pm
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> I changed the config.h and used make on kernel directory and src directory,
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> but though it seems I have a slightly different keyboard its definetely NOT
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> a US-101 enhanced keyboard. Namely I cannot find < > keys and - / are on
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> the wrong keys etc. Why is it that the original image works ok but I
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> cannot get a new one to work?
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Some things might not be being remade quite right. I have problems with
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this quite a bit, and have just gotten in the habit of doing a 'make clean'
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then re-making the entire kernel. Anyone know why remaking parts of the
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kernel doesn't seem to work? A friend of mine has the same problem.
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steve
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--[0345]--
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[0346] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter MacDonald) Linux_Activists 01/09/92 22:38 (16 lines)
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Subject: make
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 92 19:31:13 PST
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From: pmacdona@sanjuan.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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When changing header files you currently have to go into each sub
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directory and type make. ie:
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cd mm
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make
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cd ../kernel
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make
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cd chr_drv
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make
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etc.
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Don't know why.
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--[0346]--
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[0347] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Teresa Selling) Linux_Activists 01/09/92 23:34 (7 lines)
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Subject: what-goes-where
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 92 23:27:12 est
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From: Teresa Selling <tselling@natasha.iusb.indiana.edu>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Is there some sora file somewhere that tell s what files go in which directory.
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For example what goes in /lib vs /usr/lib.....etc.
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--[0347]--
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[0348] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) Linux_Activists 01/10/92 00:03 (82 lines)
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Subject: Re: still a keyboard problem
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 92 23:52:17 -0500
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From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
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To: sclawson@cadesm12.eng.utah.edu
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Cc: Russ Nelson <nelson@cheetah.ece.clarkson.edu>
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: Stephen. Clawson's message of Thu, 9 Jan 92 20:19:14 MST,
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Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
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From: sclawson@cadesm12.eng.utah.edu (Stephen. Clawson)
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 92 20:19:14 MST
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Some things might not be being remade quite right. I have
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problems with this quite a bit, and have just gotten in the habit of
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doing a 'make clean' then re-making the entire kernel. Anyone know
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why remaking parts of the kernel doesn't seem to work? A friend of
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mine has the same problem.
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The problem is in how the dependancies of the make files are set up.
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Each subdirectory has a bunch of .o files (which depend on the .c and
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the .h files), which are assembled to gether to form one "subassembly"
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.o file for the subdirectory. So for example, all of the .o files in
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the kernel subdirectory are linked together to form kernel.o, and all of
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the .o files in the fs subdirectory are linked to gether to form fs.o
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The problem is that the "image" file is created by linking the
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subassembly files together (fs.o, kernel.o, etc.), and the top-level
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makefile only knows that about this dependency; it has no way of knowing
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that since the .h files have changed, the .o files making up the
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kernel.o file have changed, and it needs to cd into the kernel
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subdirectory and do a remake. This could be fixed by adding more
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dependency rules, but it would substantially complicate the make files.
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Actually, I'm not sure why we have the second level .o files, unless it
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is to speed up the linking of the kernel when you are only making
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changes in one part of the kernel. It would probably faster if the top
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level make file assembled the "image" file from the component .o files,
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and the dependencies were all in the top level make file.
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From: Teresa Selling <tselling@natasha.iusb.indiana.edu>
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 92 20:45:26 EST
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||
Mailer: Elm [revision: 64.9]
|
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I am also having trouble decompressing a ~177K file. A 170K or so file
|
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decompresses fine. Have I hit a limit on compress or can more memory
|
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be allocated? I get out of memory and segmentation fault errors.
|
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I have 8 meg of memory, so it seems strange to run out of memory.
|
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I doubt you are running out of memory. Are you sure that your ~177k
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file isn't corrupted? Typically you will get an out of memory error if
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the .Z file was FTP'ed in ASCII mode instead of binary mode or some such
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||
thing.
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 92 17:20:33 EST
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From: Russ Nelson <nelson@cheetah.ece.clarkson.edu>
|
||
|
||
These drivers all use a common skeleton that interfaces between FTP
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Software's Packet Driver Specification, and the code that's specific
|
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to each card. That code could be reused if someone could find a way
|
||
to keep most of the entry points identical, or at least similar. If
|
||
the entry points into the device-specific code need to be changed,
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||
maybe we could find a way to do it so that all the drivers can get
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ported at the same time?
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First a disclaimer: I haven't locked at the FTP Packet Driver
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Specification; but I suspect the one place that will be a problem is
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interrupt handling. Presumably the Clarkson drivers are interrupt
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driven and not polling off the clock tick, right? I suspect that if
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they're clock tick driven, it would make things easier but it would make
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performance suffer a lot. If they are interrupt driven, then you need
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to worry about installing a 386 protected-mode interrupt gate, and
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saving all of the 386 32-bit registers; and if the drivers were designed
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for the 16-bit DOS world, they might not be up to handling this.
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Also, how nailed-down is the interface between the "common" portion of
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the packet driver and the "device specific" portion of the packet
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driver? I suspect that we would want to dump the "common" portion of
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the driver and speak directly to the "device specific" portion.
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Having an Ethernet driver sounds like a really cool thing! Of course,
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the thing that would really interest me is a SLIP driver.... :-)
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- Ted
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--[0348]--
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[0350] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mika Matti Jalava) Linux_Activists 01/10/92 03:46 (29 lines)
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Subject: Re: keyboard when recompiling linux
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From: Mika Matti Jalava <r36110m@kaira.hut.fi>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 92 10:33:56 EET
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In-Reply-To: <9201100053.AA05736@joker.cs.hut.fi>; from "Teresa Selling" at Jan 9, 92 7:53 pm
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Teresa writes:
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> I have just recently started using linux. With some help from people
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> here I have got it up and running. Shoelace seems to work ok as well.
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> But when I recompile the image and attempt to use it my keyboard is messed
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> up. I assume that it is set for other than USA for default keyboard, but
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> I cannot find where that is set. Any suggestions?
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Here is an excerpt from /usr/linux/include/linux/config.h:
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/*
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* define your keyboard here -
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* KBD_FINNISH for Finnish keyboards
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* KBD_US for US-type
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* KBD_GR for German keyboards
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* KBD_FR for Frech keyboard
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*/
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/*#define KBD_US */
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/*#define KBD_GR */
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/*#define KBD_FR */
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#define KBD_FINNISH
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And KBD_FINNISH is the default. Change it to KBD_US and you should get
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it right.
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Mika
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--[0350]--
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[0352] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ari Lemmke) Linux_Activists 01/10/92 05:48 (42 lines)
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Subject: No subject found in mail header
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1992 12:34:52 +0200
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From: Ari Lemmke <arl@sauna.cs.hut.fi>
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To: SUPERVISOR@novell.oih.no
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: SUPERVISOR@novell.oih.no's message of 10 Jan 92 10:39:16 MET-1 <MAILQUEUE-99.920110103917.416@novell.oih.no>
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>Please delete my name/address from the linux-activists.
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>
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>Thanks
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Really people - stop these _jokes_ - on our mailing list.
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This mailing list is intended ONLY for Linux
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related discussion, not requesting.
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The one and only channel for requests is
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Linux-activists-request@niksula.hut.fi
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I even think this kind of mail do not belong here,
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but .. I wonder where we always have illiterates.
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"The only way to get on this mailing list was
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Linux-activists-request@niksula.hut.fi and the
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only way out is Linux-activists-request@niksula.hut.fi,
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there's no other way than Linux-activists-request@niksula.hut.fi
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for address changes."
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BTW. we have atleast 140 people getting this list
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around the world (+multiple secondary lists). In couple
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of hours (within my session 16.00-12.20 [huh, all nite long])
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we have had more than 20 new subscribers.
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When the list gets bigger we might have more trouble
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request messages on wrong address .. I really want to
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prevent that. And this is yet an other reason for
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the news group.
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arl
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[0354] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Johan Myreen) Linux_Activists 01/10/92 11:55 (18 lines)
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Subject: Three Finger Salute
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From: Johan Myreen <jem@sauna.cs.hut.fi>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 92 18:45:17 EET
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In-Reply-To: <9201080849.AA21293@dront.nada.kth.se>; from "d88-man@nada.kth.se" at Jan 8, 92 9:49 am
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> No warm reboot: I have the same problem as do more people I know of, the
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> problem is (as I know it) the AMI-bios in my computer, do you have an AMI ?
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> If so that's almost surely the reason. Anybody knows why ? I haven't looked
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> into it. You always have the red button ... :-)
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I have seen this problem too, on a MikroMikko 4m346 (also known as
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Alfaskop 4m346) from ICL Data. The funny thing is that the warm boot
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works on model 4m336SX from the same manufacturer. The machine doesn't
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have a reset button, and the power switch isn't even red!
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--
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Johan Myreen
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jem@cs.hut.fi
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--[0354]--
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[0355] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mika Matti Jalava) Linux_Activists 01/10/92 12:06 (12 lines)
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Subject: Re: Three Finger Salute
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From: Mika Matti Jalava <r36110m@kaira.hut.fi>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 92 18:51:06 EET
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In-Reply-To: <199201101645.AA16180@sauna.cs.hut.fi>; from "Johan Myreen" at Jan 10, 92 6:45 pm
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Various users have noted that their machines don't work right after
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warm boot. Sorry, I'm not able to help, but if it helps anything, I
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can tell that something has changed from 0.10 to 0.11: With 0.10 my
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machine had the same problem, but 0.11 boots OK in every situation. My
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machine is a 386-25 with Award BIOS.
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Mika
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--[0355]--
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[0357] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Teresa Selling) Linux_Activists 01/10/92 14:32 (7 lines)
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Subject: length of file names
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 92 14:23:10 est
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From: Teresa Selling <tselling@natasha.iusb.indiana.edu>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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I was just wondering why the file names have to be so short. Would
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it be difficult to implement longer ones, say 32 characters long/?
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--[0357]--
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[0358] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter MacDonald) Linux_Activists 01/10/92 15:47 (162 lines)
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Subject: A kill for linux
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 92 12:32:46 PST
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From: pmacdona@sanjuan.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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There may not be much demand for this one now that Job Controls is
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coming to bash, but for processes that are unattached to a tty
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(like pty pgming) it can be usefull. Also daemon management.
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Here is kill.c. Note that .11 has a bug in sys_kill, which
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is supposed to return -1 on a kill of an unknown process number.
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Because of this, kill.c never warns of illegal kills.
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Use kill -? for info.
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******CUT HERE***************
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/* kill.c : copyright (92) Peter MacDonald: Distribute freely, don't restrict*/
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#include <sys/types.h>
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#include <signal.h>
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#include <strings.h>
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#define ERR 2
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const char *usagestr = "usage: kill [-signal] pid ...\n";
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void oops(void)
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{ write(ERR,usagestr,strlen(usagestr));
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exit(1);
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}
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void oops2(char *str1, char *str2)
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{
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write(ERR,str1,strlen(str1));
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write(ERR,str2,strlen(str2));
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write(ERR,"\n",1);
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exit(1);
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}
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char *itoa(int num)
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{ int sign = 0;
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static char buf[15];
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char *cp = buf+sizeof(buf)-1;
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if (num<0)
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{ sign = 1;
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num = -num;
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}
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do
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{
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*cp-- = '0'+num%10;
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num /= 10;
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} while (num);
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if (sign)
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*cp-- = '-';
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return(cp+1);
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}
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const char *signames[] = {
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"HUP", "INT", "QUIT", "ILL", "TRAP", "ABRT", "UNUSED",
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"FPE", "KILL", "USR1", "SEGV", "USR2", "PIPE", "ALRM", "TERM",
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"STKFLT", "CHLD", "CONT", "STOP", "TSTP", "TTIN", "TTOU", 0 };
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int main(int argc, char *argv[])
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{
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int i, signum = SIGTERM;
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if (argc < 2)
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oops();
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if ((argc>1) && ('-' == *argv[1]))
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{
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if ('?' == argv[1][1])
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for (i=0; i<NSIG; i++)
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if (!signames[i])
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{ write(ERR,"\n",1);
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exit(0);
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}
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else
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{ write(ERR,signames[i],strlen(signames[i]));
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write(ERR," ", 1);
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if (i==10)
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write(ERR,"\n",1);
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}
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for (i=0; i<NSIG; i++)
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if (!signames[i])
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{ i = NSIG;
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break;
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}
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else
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if (!strcmp(signames[i],argv[1]+1))
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break;
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if (i < NSIG)
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signum = i+1;
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else
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if ((!(signum = atoi(argv[1]+1))) || (signum<=0) || (signum>NSIG))
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oops();
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argc--;
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argv++;
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}
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while (--argc)
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{
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argv++;
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if ((i = atoi(*argv)) <= 3)
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oops();
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if (kill(i,signum))
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oops2( "kill: no such process ", itoa(i));
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}
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return(0);
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}
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|
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|
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|
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table
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!"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?
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@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_
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end
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--[0358]--
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[0359] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter Cooper) Linux_Activists 01/10/92 22:30 (9 lines)
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Subject: select()
|
||
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1992 10:02:42 +0900
|
||
From: comrade@uniwa.uwa.oz.au (Peter Cooper)
|
||
To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
|
||
|
||
Are there any plans to implement the select() sys call sometime ??
|
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If no-one is looking at it, does anyone know where I can find detailed
|
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specs on what select does, and a rought idea of how it should be implemented?
|
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|
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Thanks.
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--[0359]--
|
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|
||
[0360] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) Linux_Activists 01/10/92 22:34 (47 lines)
|
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Subject: News group or mailing list?
|
||
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 92 22:24:51 -0500
|
||
From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
|
||
To: Ari Lemmke <arl@sauna.cs.hut.fi>, torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi
|
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
|
||
Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
|
||
|
||
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1992 12:34:52 +0200
|
||
From: Ari Lemmke <arl@sauna.cs.hut.fi>
|
||
|
||
When the list gets bigger we might have more trouble
|
||
request messages on wrong address .. I really want to
|
||
prevent that. And this is yet an other reason for
|
||
the news group.
|
||
|
||
I had earlier proposed a mail digestifer <-> news group gateway; well, I
|
||
finally have that software working on my system. What it does is this:
|
||
|
||
*) Mail sent to List-Name is posted to the newsgroup.
|
||
|
||
*) News group articles are collected together and sent when they
|
||
comprise a digest of between 20k and 30k, or if that
|
||
doesn't happen in 6 hours, the news group articles are
|
||
flushed out into a digest.
|
||
|
||
(All of the numbers, like the 20k, 30k, and the 6 hours can be adjusted
|
||
as appropriate.)
|
||
|
||
The general idea is that we can use this to replace the Linux Activists
|
||
lists at some point. The question is when do do we do this and how.
|
||
|
||
I actually don't have very strong opinions about whether we do
|
||
alt.os.linux now, and transition to comp.os.linux later, or whether we
|
||
start the process for comp.os.linux now, and start doing the transition
|
||
60 days from now, or whether we just wait for a while if the pure
|
||
mailing solution is still holding up.
|
||
|
||
Linus, Ari, what do you think? If you want, I can turn on the software
|
||
on relatively little notice; it's already been installed on my news
|
||
server.
|
||
|
||
For people on the list: how many of you would prefer to get this mailing
|
||
list via news? How many of you would be able to receive alt.os.linux?
|
||
How many of you would be able to receive comp.os.linux? How many of you
|
||
would prefer to receive this via mail regardless? PLEASE DO NOT REPLY
|
||
TO THE LIST. MAIL ONLY TO ME, AND I WILL SUMMARIZE. Thank you!
|
||
|
||
- Ted
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--[0360]--
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[0361] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter MacDonald) Linux_Activists 01/11/92 00:12 (10 lines)
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Subject: select
|
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 92 21:05:38 PST
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From: pmacdona@sanjuan.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
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||
To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
|
||
|
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I hacked together a (very rough) select system call, as well as pseudo
|
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ttys (even rougher) and submitted them with VC to Linus. In further
|
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correspondence with him, I believe Linus has both of these smoothed out
|
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and integrated in 0.12. If your looking for a project, maybe you
|
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could try symbolic links (maybe see plains.nodak.edu:pub/Minix/usenet/
|
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1991.Jun/symlink.sh) or shared dynamic link libraries (thorny).
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--[0361]--
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[0363] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter MacDonald) Linux_Activists 01/11/92 02:06 (97 lines)
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Subject: nice and renice for linux
|
||
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 92 22:59:05 PST
|
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From: pmacdona@sanjuan.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
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||
To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
|
||
|
||
|
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Here is the nice and renice utilities for setting the priority of jobs
|
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at startup and while running respectively. It does not include
|
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the system call sys_renice, which is trivial to implement, so renice
|
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doesn't actually work right now. Note that nice (and renice)
|
||
should be checking that the caller is root if priority is negative.
|
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At least I think the system call should do the checking?
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******CUT HERE**********************************
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/* nice.c: copywrite (92) Peter MacDonald: Distribute freely, don't restrict */
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#include <sys/types.h>
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||
#include <signal.h>
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||
#include <string.h>
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||
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/* link nice to renice to change running processes priorities. */
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||
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||
int is_nice;
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||
|
||
void usage()
|
||
{
|
||
if (is_nice)
|
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puts("usage: nice [-n] command");
|
||
else
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puts("usage: renice [-n] pid");
|
||
exit(-1);
|
||
}
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|
||
int renice(int priority, int pid)
|
||
{
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puts("renice system call not yet implemented");
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return(0);
|
||
}
|
||
|
||
int main(int argc, char *argv[])
|
||
{
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int priority = 10;
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is_nice = (strcmp(*argv+strlen(*argv)-6,"renice"));
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||
|
||
if ((argc>1) && (argv[1][0] == '-'))
|
||
{ priority = atoi(argv[1]+1);
|
||
if ((priority>19) || (priority<-20))
|
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usage();
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argc--;
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argv++;
|
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}
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|
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if (argc<2)
|
||
usage();
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||
|
||
if (!is_nice)
|
||
if (renice(priority,atoi(argv[1])))
|
||
usage();
|
||
else
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return(0);
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||
|
||
if (nice(priority))
|
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usage();
|
||
|
||
execvp(argv[1], argv+1);
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puts("can not execute");
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exit(-1);
|
||
}
|
||
|
||
table
|
||
!"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?
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@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_
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begin 644 nice.c
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[0364] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Linus Benedict Torvalds) Linux_Activists 01/11/92 07:47 (19 lines)
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Subject: Re: select()
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Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1992 14:20:14 +0200
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From: Linus Benedict Torvalds <torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi>
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In-Reply-To: Peter Cooper's message as of Jan 11, 10:02
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To: comrade@uniwa.uwa.oz.au (Peter Cooper), linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Peter Cooper: "select()" (Jan 11, 10:02):
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> Are there any plans to implement the select() sys call sometime ??
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> If no-one is looking at it, does anyone know where I can find detailed
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> specs on what select does, and a rought idea of how it should be implemented?
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Select is already implemented, will be in 0.12. It was originally by
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pmacdona, although I have hacked it quite heavily. It currently works
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(not too much testing though) on pipes and tty's (including pty's).
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I'm hoping that MGR could sometime be ported to linux: does anyone know
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what more it wants - we've got pty's and select, but no /dev/screen yet.
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Is there anything else mgr wants?
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Linus
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[0366] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Linus Benedict Torvalds) Linux_Activists 01/11/92 18:14 (35 lines)
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Subject: Symbolic links
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1992 01:00:35 +0200
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From: Linus Benedict Torvalds <torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi>
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Ok, as I didn't implement the VFS-patches (they seemed a bit raw), I
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found that I no longer had any excuse for not implementing symbolic
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links, so I did :) I haven't tested them very much yet (don't you get
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tired of me saying that? But it usually works anyway), but the small
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tests I have done have worked out beautifully. So 0.12 (still due out
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wednesday January 15th unless I get problems) will have them.
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One problem is that I disallowed nesting links - does anybody feel this
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is too much of a restriction? Hope not, 'cause 0.12 won't have nested
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links, and that's final (unless someone wants to pay me huge sums of
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money for it).
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Note that the symlinks will require a new fsck (don't worry, I've made
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the changes already), so you'll have to install some things from the new
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root-floppy when you install 0.12. Or something like that.
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0.12 will still have these known bugs:
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- the serial line sometimes locks up. I don't know why, and I don't
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want to know. I want a patch that fixes it :-)
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- Some harddisks don't like linux (even though they should). Maybe not
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a bug, but a deficiency.
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New bugs (possibly):
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- When using VM, there are /a lot/ new possibilities for race
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conditions. I haven't heard about problems from those few that have
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tested it, so maybe it's ok. Knock wood.
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- The job control bash for 0.12 is version 1.10, which has a bug with
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command completion. Not fatal, but irritating. 1.11 should hopefully
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be out soon.
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Linus
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[0367] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Linus Benedict Torvalds) Linux_Activists 01/12/92 07:39 (21 lines)
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Subject: Re: Linux (HD-controller reset failed: d0)
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1992 14:29:28 +0200
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From: Linus Benedict Torvalds <torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi>
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In-Reply-To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga's message as of Jan 11, 23:36
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To: zuazaga@ucunix.san.uc.edu, torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi (Linux activists)
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Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga: "Linux (HD-controller reset failed: d0)" (Jan 11, 23:36):
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> [ HD-controller reset failed: d0 ]
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>
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> I've got all the gccbin and sources installed, and want to ask what is
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> the current suggested fix for this? Before I mess with my boot image,
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> that is. For sure this should be in the FAQ. :-)
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The current suggested fix is to wait for 0.12: this particular problem
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should be solved (knock wood). If you cannot wait for 3 days, there
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were some timeouts you can change, but I forgot which: they are in
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blk_drv/hd.c. I /think/ this was solved in the VM prerelease (on
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amaru), but that one has other problems (memory size hardcoded for
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testing).
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Linus
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[0370] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Derek Lieber) Linux_Activists 01/12/92 13:09 (24 lines)
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Subject: trouble booting 0.11
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 92 12:41:08 EST
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From: Derek Lieber <derek@watson.ibm.com>
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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I've copied the 0.11 "bootimage" onto a 1.44M diskette and attempted to
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boot off it. It gets as far as "Loading system..." and then says
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HD-controller reset failed: 80
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Kernel panic: HD controller not ready
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I also see a small "EGAc" in the upper right corner of the screen.
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I've been running protected mode minix on this machine (a 20MHz 386 Everex
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Tempo LX laptop, VGA display, IDE controller)
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using the vanilla at_wini.c driver with no problems.
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I recall being able to boot the old 0.10 version of linux with no problems,
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although I just played on the diskette and never tried to mount a HD
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filesystem.
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Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
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Derek Lieber
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derek@watson.ibm.com
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[0371] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Derek Lieber) Linux_Activists 01/12/92 14:59 (23 lines)
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Subject: trouble booting 0.11 (continued)
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 92 14:39:09 EST
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From: Derek Lieber <derek@watson.ibm.com>
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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I just tried using version 0.10 of "bootimage" to run version 0.11
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of "rootimage". The system comes up fine. I can access the harddisk ok,
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for example by running "cp /dev/hd0 /dev/null".
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But when running "fdisk", I get:
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/dev/hd1: ..stuff about partition 1...
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/dev/hd2: ..stuff about partition 2...
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/dev/hd3: ..stuff about partition 3...
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harddisk I/O error
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dev 0305 block 0
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and the program terminates. Now device 0305 is /dev/hd5 (ie. 2nd harddisk),
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but I don't have a 2nd harddisk. Does linux for some reason expect TWO
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harddisks? Is this the reason I'm unable to boot version 0.11 of the
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kernel (as described in my previous message)?
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Derek Lieber
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derek@watson.ibm.com
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--[0371]--
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[0372] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Linus Benedict Torvalds) Linux_Activists 01/12/92 15:40 (50 lines)
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Subject: Re: trouble booting 0.11 (continued)
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1992 22:25:38 +0200
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From: Linus Benedict Torvalds <torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi>
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In-Reply-To: "Derek Lieber"'s message as of Jan 12, 14:39
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To: Derek Lieber <derek@watson.ibm.com>, Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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"Derek Lieber": "trouble booting 0.11 (continued)" (Jan 12, 14:39):
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> I just tried using version 0.10 of "bootimage" to run version 0.11
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> of "rootimage". The system comes up fine. I can access the harddisk ok,
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> for example by running "cp /dev/hd0 /dev/null".
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>
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> But when running "fdisk", I get:
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>
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> /dev/hd1: ..stuff about partition 1...
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> /dev/hd2: ..stuff about partition 2...
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> /dev/hd3: ..stuff about partition 3...
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> harddisk I/O error
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> dev 0305 block 0
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>
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> and the program terminates. Now device 0305 is /dev/hd5 (ie. 2nd harddisk),
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> but I don't have a 2nd harddisk. Does linux for some reason expect TWO
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> harddisks? Is this the reason I'm unable to boot version 0.11 of the
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> kernel (as described in my previous message)?
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No, this is totally normal: the kernel tries to read from the second
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harddisk, and fails. No problem. The reason that 0.10 works, but 0.11
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doesn't, is that I changed 0.11 so that it does a hd-reset at bootup,
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mostly to test the code. Ok it wasn't so great an idea, but it showed
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up the bug in the reset-code.
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If you can get linux up and running on some machine (0.10 works, but has
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bugs, so 0.11 is better), you can make a new 0.11 that works somewhat
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just by changing the line
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static int reset = 1;
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to
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static int reset = 0;
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at the head of hd.c, and recompiling the kernel. This works, but
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ignores the deeper problem of not being able to reset the disk. I still
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think you'd better wait for 0.12: it's ready, but I want to test
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everything out for a bit yet. I was still adding things to it
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yesterday, now I'm just playing around, and trying to see if 0.12 fails.
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Linus
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PS. Ignore my warning about bugs in bash-1.10: bash 1.11 came out
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yesterday (the day before?), and was very easy to port to linux. I
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haven't found any bugs yet.
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[0373] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John R. Schutz) Linux_Activists 01/12/92 15:40 (31 lines)
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Subject: Re: fdisk problems
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From: john@csrnxt1.ae.utexas.edu (John R. Schutz)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi (Linux Activists)
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 92 14:33:45 CST
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After seeing a couple of people asking this same question, I decided
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I'd reply to the list instead of individually (sorry to the majority
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who probably know this).
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It is normal behavior for fdisk to report the errors about /dev/hd5,
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etc, if you do not have a second hard disk. I am not sure which of
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the following is correct, however
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1) fdisk has it hard coded to check a second hard disk
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2) fdisk checks on all /dev/hd*'s
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I am not able to check since I am not at home, but suffice to say that
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it is normal. I think this was written somewhere, was it not?
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Derek Lieber: This has nothing to do with the fact that you cannot
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get 0.11 to mount your HD. This is a seperate bug that will
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(hopefully) be fixed in 0.12. Linus has stated that it is. It has to
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do, from my understanding, that some delays in the HD init are not
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long enough? Anyways...I'm getting over my head...
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john
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--
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| John R. Schutz | Email&NeXTmail: |
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| A learning NeXTie | john@csrnxt1.ae.utexas.edu |
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| (512)328-0587 | "We are all victims of dead men." |
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| 3009 Hatley Dr., Austin, TX 78746 | -Charles Fuller |
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[0374] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mark_Hahn@transarc.com) Linux_Activists 01/12/92 16:24 (8 lines)
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Subject: frequently-asked-questions file?
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1992 15:42:38 -0500 (EST)
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From: Mark_Hahn@transarc.com
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Is there a FAQ for Linux yet? I'm especially interested in the
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breadth of different machines that have sucessfully booted Linux.
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thanks, Mark.
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[0375] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Thomas E. Kunselman) Linux_Activists 01/12/92 18:14 (50 lines)
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Subject: Device driver text with source.
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 92 17:56:29 EST
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From: "Thomas E. Kunselman" <VAATEK@UKCC.uky.edu>
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||
To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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I was reading misc.books.technical and thought someone on here might be
|
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interested in this. I'm a new subscriber, so hope this hasn't been
|
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posted before.
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Writing UNIX Device Drivers
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By George Pajari
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(c) 1992
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Published by Addison-Wesley
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ISBN 0-201-52374-4
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323 pages, Paperback
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$32.95
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This book provides application programmers with definitive
|
||
information on writing device drivers for the UNIX operating
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system. It explains, through working examples, the issues
|
||
related to the design and implementation of these important
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components of applications programs.
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Written by an acknowledged expert, the book uses full source
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code listings of real devices to explain the underlying concepts.
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Complete source code is provided for 12 drivers, including:
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- block drivers for a SCSI disk and a line printer
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- a character driver for an intelligent serial I/O device
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- a streams driver for a token-ring card
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|
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Covering System V Releases 3 and 4, the book provides essential
|
||
practical advice for all UNIX applications programmers.
|
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|
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--
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Quantum Books | A Technical and Professional Bookstore
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----------------------------+------------------------------------------
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Philadelphia: 215-222-0611 | Mailing List: quanlist@world.std.com
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Information Specialist | BITNET: VAATEK@UKCC
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|
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#4 Administration Building |
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[0376] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Linus Benedict Torvalds) Linux_Activists 01/12/92 18:53 (42 lines)
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Subject: Re: Device driver text with source.
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1992 01:34:24 +0200
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From: Linus Benedict Torvalds <torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi>
|
||
In-Reply-To: "Thomas E. Kunselman"'s message as of Jan 12, 17:56
|
||
To: "Thomas E. Kunselman" <VAATEK@UKCC.uky.edu>,
|
||
|
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"Thomas E. Kunselman": "Device driver text with source." (Jan 12, 17:56):
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> I was reading misc.books.technical and thought someone on here might be
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> interested in this. I'm a new subscriber, so hope this hasn't been
|
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> posted before.
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>
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> Writing UNIX Device Drivers
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> By George Pajari [deleted]
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A small word of warnig: linux looks like a unix, but I implemented it
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from scratch, and with very little litterature on how things "should" be
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done. In fact the only things I knew were how the interface should
|
||
appear to the user: the result is not the same as either minix, sysv or
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bsd when it comes to the kernel innards. Some of the choises I made
|
||
worked out well, some not so well. So far nothing has been a total
|
||
disaster: most things have been relatively easily adaptible to the linux
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kernel (demand-loading and paging comes to mind: they were essentially
|
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painless to do for linux).
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This doesn't mean that this book wouldn't be very practical (it probably
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is), but it does mean that you cannot take the code and use it directly
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for linux. Of course the underlying algorithm may well work splendidly.
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The three books I had as references were:
|
||
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"Maurice J Bach: The design of the unix operating system". This is a
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nice general text, and has some simple algorithms for some things.
|
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Recommended.
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"Tanenbaum: Operating Systems, Design and Implementation". Hmm. I didn't
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use this book much for the actual implementation (other than getting the
|
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minix filesystem design out of it), but unless you understand the
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principles ast writes about, unix kernel hacking is difficult at best.
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"Crawford & Gelsinger: Programming the 80386". What can I say. If you
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want to program the 386-specific stuff, this is a must.
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Linus
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[0377] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Juan Jose T. Noyles) Linux_Activists 01/12/92 18:53 (5 lines)
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Subject: Filesystem
|
||
To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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From: juan@noyles.pha.pa.us (Juan Jose T. Noyles)
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||
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 92 18:13:47 EST
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||
|
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Does Linux use the same format as DOS?
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--[0377]--
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[0378] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lawrence C. Foard) Linux_Activists 01/12/92 20:27 (16 lines)
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Subject: new to this list
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 92 19:59:46 -0500
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||
From: entropy@ee.WPI.edu (Lawrence C. Foard)
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||
To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
|
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I just signed up for this list. As far as I could tell there is no stty
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available for linux yet so I went ahead and wrote one, I'm also adding
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features it needs to perform the same function as getty.
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The todo file says the init program is needed, if no one has done this yet
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I would be interested.
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Is ps available yet?
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Assuming there isn't an stty program available that I missed, I can send the
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stty code to any one who is interested.
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I'm really impressed with what I have seen so far, I've been hoping something
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like this would come along for years :)
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[0379] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Yanek Martinson) Linux_Activists 01/12/92 21:50 (16 lines)
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Subject: Re: init
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From: Yanek Martinson <yanek@mthvax.cs.miami.edu>
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To: entropy@ee.WPI.edu (Lawrence C. Foard)
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 92 20:30:02 EST
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: <9201130059.AA23867@wintermute.WPI.EDU>; from "Lawrence C. Foard" at Jan 12, 92 7:59 pm
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> The todo file says the init program is needed, if no one has done
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My init is almost done, should have been done a while ago but I was
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busy with "real work" (things all crashing for various strange
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reasons)
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I still need to write the stuff that lets it chnge run-levels though
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(I think I will limit it to only 2 levels, so I can use signals
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SIGUSR1 and SIGUSR2, does anyone see any problems with this?)
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[0380] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John T Kohl) Linux_Activists 01/12/92 21:52 (11 lines)
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Subject: Re: new to this list
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 92 18:01:40 -0800
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To: entropy@ee.WPI.edu (Lawrence C. Foard)
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: [378]
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From: John T Kohl <jtkohl@cs.Berkeley.edu>
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Reply-To: jtkohl@cs.Berkeley.edu
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The stty from the GNU shell utilities (I think; or some other set of
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utils) works with minimal porting effort.
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John
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[0381] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (tthorn@daimi.aau.dk) Linux_Activists 01/12/92 22:56 (23 lines)
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Subject: No VFS means no FFS?
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 03:53:45 +0100
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From: tthorn@daimi.aau.dk
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: Linus Benedict Torvalds's message of Sun, 12 Jan 1992 01:00:35 +0200
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From: Linus Benedict Torvalds <torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi>
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Ok, as I didn't implement the VFS-patches (they seemed a bit raw), I
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I haven't seen the VFS-patches, but as I understand, they are
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essential for the Berkeley Fast File System.
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The current file system has no impressive performance, and
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was hoping the addition of FFS would improve the situation.
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Also, the ridiculous 14 char limit to file names is blocking
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my use of Linux for a particular application.
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Don't misunderstand. I find Linux great, but it would be
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even better with FFS.
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/Tommy
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PS: What is happening to the SCSI driver project? I might
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be able to write the adaptech 1542 lowlevel driver.
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[0382] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Linus Benedict Torvalds) Linux_Activists 01/13/92 04:23 (29 lines)
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Subject: Re: No VFS means no FFS?
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1992 11:08:42 +0200
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From: Linus Benedict Torvalds <torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi>
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In-Reply-To: tthorn@daimi.aau.dk's message as of Jan 13, 3:53
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To: tthorn@daimi.aau.dk, Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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tthorn@daimi.aau.dk: "No VFS means no FFS?" (Jan 13, 3:53):
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> From: Linus Benedict Torvalds <torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi>
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>
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> Ok, as I didn't implement the VFS-patches (they seemed a bit raw), I
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>
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> I haven't seen the VFS-patches, but as I understand, they are
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> essential for the Berkeley Fast File System.
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The VFS that is available as alpha (tsx-11, ALPHA) has the problem that
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it wants you to rewrite almost everything when you add a filesystem (ie,
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have a minix_open, and a ffs_open etc), which I find a bit boring, and
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also makes for somewhat ugly code (several versions of essentially the
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same set of functions). I decided that I didn't want to lock into that
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yet: it might still be the way linux goes, but I don't want to have an
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official release that binds me to something I think could maybe be
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implemented cleaner.
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VFS will come, but I'd rather see it (I'll implement it too, perhaps) as
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a collection of just the low-level routines (read_inode(),
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write_inode(), read_dir_entry(), write_dir_entry(), _bmap() etc), where
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the general routines like "link()" etc would be the same for all
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systems.
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Linus
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[0383] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (d88-man@nada.kth.se) Linux_Activists 01/13/92 05:47 (25 lines)
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Subject: kernel panic...
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 11:35:20 +0100
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From: d88-man@nada.kth.se
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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I got a nasty kernel panic when using uemacs this morning:
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Kernel panic: Trying to free up swapper memory space.
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In swapper task - not syncing
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Bug or not ?
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The scenario was a uemacs with 2 'windows', I had exited uemacs several times
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(with ^X^C) and used gas in between.
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Although it doesnt't say much I wrote down the preceding infolines
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if they can be some clue:
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EIP: 000f:67c4
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EFLAGS: 13213
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ESP: 17:23558
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base: 0, limit: A0000
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Stack: 0 ffc 13f 5412
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Pid: 0, proc. nr: 00x07
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89 02 eb ef 8d 65 f8 5e 57 c1
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The panic resulted in a corrupted CMOS too ! Which I recall somebody had
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earlier.
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/Mats Andersson (d88-man@nada.kth.se)
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[0384] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (s_ebach@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de) Linux_Activists 01/13/92 09:23 (12 lines)
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Subject: How about 'mvdir' and 'df'
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 15:10:24 +0100
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From: s_ebach@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de
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To: "Linux-activists@niksula.hut.fi"@netway.rz.uni-ulm.de
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Are there allready running mvdir's and df's under Linux?
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These two I REALY miss in the standard-distribution.
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BTW: What's the de-facto-WHERE-SHOULD-BE-WHAT-standard
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setup of GCC?
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TschauTschau
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Bernd
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[0385] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Russ Nelson) Linux_Activists 01/13/92 11:30 (50 lines)
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Subject: still a keyboard problem
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 09:58:59 EST
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From: Russ Nelson <nelson@cheetah.ece.clarkson.edu>
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To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: Theodore Ts'o's message of Thu, 9 Jan 92 23:52:17 -0500 <9201100452.AA04055@tsx-11.MIT.EDU>
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 92 23:52:17 -0500
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From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
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Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
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Address: 1 Amherst St., Cambridge, MA 02139
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Phone: (617) 253-8091
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 92 17:20:33 EST
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From: Russ Nelson <nelson@cheetah.ece.clarkson.edu>
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These drivers all use a common skeleton that interfaces between FTP
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Software's Packet Driver Specification, and the code that's specific
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to each card. That code could be reused if someone could find a way
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to keep most of the entry points identical, or at least similar. If
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the entry points into the device-specific code need to be changed,
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maybe we could find a way to do it so that all the drivers can get
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ported at the same time?
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First a disclaimer: I haven't looked at the FTP Packet Driver
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Specification; but I suspect the one place that will be a problem is
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interrupt handling. Presumably the Clarkson drivers are interrupt
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driven and not polling off the clock tick, right? I suspect that if
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they're clock tick driven, it would make things easier but it would make
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performance suffer a lot. If they are interrupt driven, then you need
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to worry about installing a 386 protected-mode interrupt gate, and
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saving all of the 386 32-bit registers; and if the drivers were designed
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for the 16-bit DOS world, they might not be up to handling this.
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Most of the drivers could be rewritten to operate in a polled mode. The
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3501 and ni5010 will not work that way, because they don't have a buffer
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large enough.
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Also, how nailed-down is the interface between the "common" portion of
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the packet driver and the "device specific" portion of the packet
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driver? I suspect that we would want to dump the "common" portion of
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the driver and speak directly to the "device specific" portion.
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Right, that's what I'm proposing -- to keep the device specific portion,
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and talk to it from protected mode.
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Having an Ethernet driver sounds like a really cool thing! Of course,
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the thing that would really interest me is a SLIP driver.... :-)
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SLIP isn't as tough because it's based on the serial ports...
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-russ
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[0386] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter MacDonald) Linux_Activists 01/13/92 11:31 (13 lines)
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Subject: Easy way to report problems.
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 08:22:23 PST
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From: pmacdona@sanjuan.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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When 0.12 comes out, and you have a problem, like a panic,
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you will be able to take a snapshot of the screen with
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setterm -dump n
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No more will you have to laboriously transcribe all that information
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on you screen. And hopefully, accuracy will improve.
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(That is, if screen dumping made it into .12? Linus?)
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[0387] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) Linux_Activists 01/13/92 11:46 (28 lines)
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Subject: Re: No VFS means no FFS?
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 11:32:30 -0500
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From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: tthorn@daimi.aau.dk's message of Mon, 13 Jan 92 03:53:45 +0100,
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Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 03:53:45 +0100
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From: tthorn@daimi.aau.dk
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The current file system has no impressive performance, and
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was hoping the addition of FFS would improve the situation.
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Note that a lot of the basic ideas of the FFS can be implemented without
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changing the filesystem format.... for example, the idea of having
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cylinder groups and allocating blocks trying to make sure that a file is
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in one cylinder group.
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Of course, you really can't change the 14 char limit without chaging the
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filesystem format, although I could think of some really ugly kludges
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one could use to make the change in a backward compatible way...
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If we're going to redesign the filesystem format, perhaps we should
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start making wish lists (keeping in mind that it may not be practical to
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implement them all). My wish list item is per-file ACL's, with
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expansion room to handle network-authenticated entities: i.e., Kerberos
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principals or X.500 DN's (yeah, right).
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- Ted
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[0388] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) Linux_Activists 01/13/92 11:55 (29 lines)
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Subject: Re: Easy way to report problems.
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 11:43:34 -0500
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From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
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To: pmacdona@sanjuan.UVic.CA
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: Peter MacDonald's message of Mon, 13 Jan 92 08:22:23 PST,
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Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 08:22:23 PST
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From: pmacdona@sanjuan.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
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When 0.12 comes out, and you have a problem, like a panic,
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you will be able to take a snapshot of the screen with
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setterm -dump n
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Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but.....
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After a panic, the Linux OS is looping in kernel mode, waiting for the
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user to type the reboot key. (No other processes are going to be able
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to execute.) How are you going to be able to do the setterm -dump n?
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One comment: when people send in kernel crash reports, they should make
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sure they specify which version of the kernel they are using.
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Obviously, if you are using a kernel with patches, it's going to be very
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difficult to figure out which routine was responsible by looking at the
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EIP output. Hopefully in the future, the kernel will be able do crash
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dumps, and we will have crash dump analysis programs to figure out where
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things actually were dying.
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- Ted
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--[0388]--
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[0389] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (kevin dahlhaus) Linux_Activists 01/13/92 14:37 (5 lines)
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Subject: subscribe
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From: kevin dahlhaus <dahlhaus@cis.ohio-state.edu>
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi (linux mailing list)
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 14:27:43 EST
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subscribe "Kevin Dahlhausen"
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--[0389]--
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[0390] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lawrence C. Foard) Linux_Activists 01/13/92 17:36 (16 lines)
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Subject: stty uploaded
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 17:22:03 -0500
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From: entropy@ee.WPI.EDU (Lawrence C. Foard)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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I uploaded stty.tar.Z (README,stty.c,stty) to the incoming directory on the
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ftp site. It seems to work ok, if you find any problems send me mail and I
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will try to fix them.
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Three problems that I think are OS bugs (or just not finished yet):
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winsize is always 0
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Vt delay and ff delay share the same bit in the header file.
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a shell started on a terminal is always killed when you exit the lowest
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level console shell (I assume this won't be a problem when init arrives).
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stty sane will set all the terminal characteristics to the way the kernel
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has the set on bootup.
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--[0390]--
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[0391] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ari Lemmke) Linux_Activists 01/13/92 18:41 (17 lines)
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Subject: stty uploaded
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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1992 01:32:02 +0200
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From: Ari Lemmke <arl@zen.cs.hut.fi>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: Lawrence C. Foard's message of Mon, 13 Jan 92 17:22:03 -0500 <9201132222.AA25467@wintermute.WPI.EDU>
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entropy@ee.WPI.EDU (Lawrence C. Foard):
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>I uploaded stty.tar.Z (README,stty.c,stty) to the incoming directory on the
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>ftp site. It seems to work ok, if you find any problems send me mail and I
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>will try to fix them.
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Available at nic.funet.fi:/pub/OS/Linux/bin/stty.tar.Z
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Non FTP sites do send to 'mailserver@nic.funet.fi' mail
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with body containing 'help'.
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arl
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[0392] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ari Lemmke) Linux_Activists 01/14/92 18:10 (8 lines)
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Subject: list is functioning
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1992 00:55:49 +0200
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From: Ari Lemmke <arl@zen.cs.hut.fi>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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List should work now.
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arl
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--[0392]--
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[0393] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ari Lemmke) Linux_Activists 01/14/92 18:44 (20 lines)
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Subject: IDE drives and Linux
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1992 01:32:07 +0200
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From: Ari Lemmke <arl@zen.cs.hut.fi>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Received: by peabody.iusb.indiana.edu
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(15.11/9.5teg) id AA28307; Tue, 14 Jan 92 18:19:14 est
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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 92 18:19:14 est -0500
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From: Teresa Selling <tselling>
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To: linux-activists.niksula.hut.fi
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^ ;-)
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Subject: IDE drives and Linux
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I am planning to purchase a new hard drive to replace my cramped 80 meg.
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I am considering a Quantum 240 meg and would like to know if anyone is
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using this drive with Linux or has had trouble using it. Thanks.
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[0394] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) Linux_Activists 01/14/92 18:45 (47 lines)
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Subject: Re: No VFS means no FFS?
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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 92 11:56:40 -0500
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From: tytso@Athena.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: tthorn@daimi.aau.dk's message of Tue, 14 Jan 92 13:49:09 +0100,
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Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 92 13:49:09 +0100
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From: tthorn@daimi.aau.dk
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Which brings me to the question I've always wanted to ask:
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How do you use FFS on a SCSI disk? Given that SCSI disc's use
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logicial sectors and automatic bad sector remapping, it doesn't
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make much sence to talk of cylinder groups. Is it possible
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to avoid the logicial mapping?
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The short answer is: with great difficulty, and not without a lot of
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success.
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Usually, SCSI disks will generally keep logical sector whose block
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numbers which are close together in the same general area of the
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physical disk, but this is not guaranteed. Depending on how automatic
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bad sector remapping is done, the revectored blocks may be at the far
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end of the disk, or scattered through out the disk.
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So the FFS algorithms can be somewhat useful on SCSI disks by
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distributing files across the entire disk, and by reducing (somewhat)
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disk head activity by keeping files in the localized area wrt logical
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sector numbers. But of course it will not be as successful as when the
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kernel has a much better idea of where blocks will end up on the
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platters.
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Another thing which comes up with SCSI disks is that the elevator sort
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algorithm (which sorts the disk blocks in the request queue in an
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attempt to reduce head movement) will also not work as well as
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traditional disk controllers, again because there's no guarantee that
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the logical sector numbering has any relationship to the physical blocks
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(although there usually is some). However, there is usually some cache
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memory on the SCSI controllers on the disk drives themselves to help
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this situation a bit.
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Fortunately, the CPU time required to do the elevator sort and the FFS
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placement of disk blocks is small enough that it gets swamped by the
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time to do the disk I/O. So even if the elevator sort and the FFS don't
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help as much for SCSI disks, it shouldn't cost that much to use the
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algorithms in any case.
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- Ted
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[0395] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Linux_Activists 01/14/92 18:48 (21 lines)
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Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 92 18:19:14 est -0500
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From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@peabody.iusb.indiana.edu>
|
||
To: tselling@peabody.iusb.indiana.edu
|
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Received: by peabody.iusb.indiana.edu
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(15.11/9.5teg) id AA28307; Tue, 14 Jan 92 18:19:14 est
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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 92 18:19:14 est -0500
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From: Teresa Selling <tselling>
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To: linux-activists.niksula.hut.fi
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Subject: IDE drives and Linux
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I am planning to purchase a new hard drive to replace my cramped 80 meg.
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I am considering a Quantum 240 meg and would like to know if anyone is
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using this drive with Linux or has had trouble using it. Thanks.
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[0396] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael K. Johnson) Linux_Activists 01/14/92 18:50 (20 lines)
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Subject: No subject found in mail header
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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 92 17:22:08 CST
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From: johnsonm@stolaf.edu (Michael K. Johnson)
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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While we are discussing what we are missing for X, I would like to
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mention one small thing -- /dev/mouse. It would be a cute trick if
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someone who has the spec's available for several mice put an autoconfig
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mouse driver in the kernel. This might actually be of use before X,
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but I can't think of anything right off....
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I suppose it would make more sense to write it, but not put it in the
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kernel until it was needed -- linux is small and clean; no need to throw
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junk at it until we need the junk...
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michaelkjohnson
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johnsonm@stolaf.edu
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Look, ma, no .sig!
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[0397] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) Linux_Activists 01/14/92 19:08 (34 lines)
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Subject: Re:
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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 92 18:53:23 -0500
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From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
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To: johnsonm@stolaf.edu
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Cc: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: Michael K. Johnson's message of Tue, 14 Jan 92 17:22:08 CST,
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Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 92 17:22:08 CST
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From: johnsonm@stolaf.edu (Michael K. Johnson)
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While we are discussing what we are missing for X, I would like to
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mention one small thing -- /dev/mouse. It would be a cute trick if
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someone who has the spec's available for several mice put an autoconfig
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mouse driver in the kernel. This might actually be of use before X,
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but I can't think of anything right off....
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The 386 X server sources in the X11R5 distribution comes with support
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for the following mice: MicroSoft, MouseSystems, MMSeries, Logitech,
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Mouseman, BusMouse. Except for the BusMouse, all of the other formats
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just require access to the serial port. You don't need to put
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the mouse support in the kernel, except for the BusMouse case, and even
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then most of the hard work can and should be done out of the kernel.
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One thing which will require some kernel work for the X server is to add
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some ioctl()'s to the console for switching it to direct mode, where you
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get scancodes instead of ASCII characters (X will do its own keyboard
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mapping and remapping), and some other ioctl()'s to do set and reset the
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keyboard LED's, and start and stop the speaker at a specified pitch,
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etc., etc. But that shouldn't be too hard to do, although I don't know
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how easy it will be to make these changes work with the Virtual Console
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mode --- we do want to be able to have an X server running in one VC,
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and be able to switch into another VC to do debugging work.
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- Ted
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--[0397]--
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[0398] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Linus Benedict Torvalds) Linux_Activists 01/14/92 19:30 (25 lines)
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Subject: linux-0.12 is available
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1992 02:13:40 +0200
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From: Linus Benedict Torvalds <torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi>
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Ok, the subject says it all. The kernel source and the disk-images are
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available on nic.funet.fi, and I'm assuming they will migrate to other
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places in a couple of days. There is a RELNOTES-0.12, but installation
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is similar to 0.11, so the installinfo in relnotes is pretty minimal.
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Note that even users of 0.11 should boot up from floppy first and copy
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all the binaries to their proper places on the harddisk partition: fsck,
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ls etc have changed with symlinks, and bash (/bin/sh) due to job
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control.
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Also note that I've decided to change the copyright to have the same set
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of rules as the GNU copyleft - I got some mail asking about it, and I
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agree. The old copyright still holds for now - I want to make sure none
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of the "co-authors" would mind, but I'm pretty sure they won't. It won't
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actually change the copyright very much: it's the handling-costs extra
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etc.
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I'll send some additional files (the complete fileutils, the new library
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and libc.a etc) tomorrow.
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Linus
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--[0398]-- (nref = [0403])
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[0399] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Derek Lieber) Linux_Activists 01/14/92 19:59 (14 lines)
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Subject: thinking about graphics programming
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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 92 19:36:45 EST
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From: "Derek Lieber" <derek@watson.ibm.com>
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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With all this talk about X servers and such, I was thinking about
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writing some graphics programs which would be able to do their work
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outside the kernel, by accessing video memory directly. Does linux
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let one establish a mapping between a region of a process's virtual
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address space and a region of physical memory (I'm thinking of
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something like the shmxxx" family of system calls for dealing with
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shared memory)?
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Derek Lieber
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derek@watson.ibm.com
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--[0399]--
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[0400] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Networking Research) Linux_Activists 01/14/92 20:32 (23 lines)
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Subject: Re: IDE drives and Linux
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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 92 19:22:15 -0600
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From: l00017@eeyore.stcloud.msus.edu (Networking Research)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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>Subject: IDE drives and Linux
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>
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>
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>I am planning to purchase a new hard drive to replace my cramped 80 meg.
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>I am considering a Quantum 240 meg and would like to know if anyone is
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>using this drive with Linux or has had trouble using it. Thanks.
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Well, I think you must mean the Quantum 210, since they don't
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(to my knowledge, and I know the quantum line pretty well) make a 240
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meg drive. I've got a Quantum (Plus Impulse) 210AT, and while I haven't
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tested Linux on it, Mach likes it quite a bit. The geometry of the drive is
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873 cyls, 13 heads, 36 secs/track. Maybe this will help people who know
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more about what Linux likes and doesn't like answer your question. I
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haven't, to be honest, brought Linux up yet myself, but I intend to use a
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Quantum 105AT for it.
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-Mark Holden
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l00017@eeyore.stcloud.msus.edu
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--[0400]--
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[0403] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) Linux_Activists 01/15/92 00:29 (15 lines)
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Subject: Re: linux-0.12 is available
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 00:22:14 -0500
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From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: [398]
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Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
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Linux 0.12 is available from TSX-11.MIT.EDU. For most U.S. sites, it
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will be much faster if you grab the distribution from TSX-11 than from
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nic.funet.fi.
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I will grab the 0.12 libc.a sources and include file, and any other
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ancilliary files as soon as they become available on nic.funet.fi.
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- Ted
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--[0403]-- (pref = [0398])
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[0404] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Morgan Schweers) Linux_Activists 01/15/92 01:10 (18 lines)
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Subject: SCSI question
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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 92 22:03:25 PST
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From: mrs@netcom.com (Morgan Schweers)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Greetings,
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Being a novice at fun stuff like kernel development and device
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driver design, I'd like to know under what circumstances I'd need
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a SCSI driver.
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I have a 20Meg floptical disk drive that MS/DOS thinks is just
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another drive. No device drivers are needed, etc... It is,
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however, a SCSI device. Does this mean that I'll need a driver
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for it under Linux?
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Does anyone have any good kernel and driver design books that
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they can refer me to?
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-- Morgan Schweers
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--[0404]--
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[0405] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robert Blum) Linux_Activists 01/15/92 03:07 (14 lines)
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Subject: 0.12 available on tupac-amaru.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 08:55:50 +0100
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From: blum@cip-s01.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Robert Blum)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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As the subject says, the new boot/rootimages are installed on tupac-amaru.
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The library stuff will follow as soon as it appears on nic.funet.fi
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BTW: This means amaru is up and running again....
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C U l8r
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Robert Blum
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--[0405]--
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[0406] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Nicolas CAILLAUD ) Linux_Activists 01/15/92 04:21 (13 lines)
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Subject: Linux & Mgr
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From: nicolas@cli52fb.edf.fr ( Nicolas CAILLAUD )
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 8:29:37 MET DST
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Hi *
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Has someone tried porting MGR to LINUX ?
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Is it much faster than with Minix ?
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Thank you all
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Nicolas
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--[0406]--
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[0407] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Simon Marlow) Linux_Activists 01/15/92 05:17 (11 lines)
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Subject: UK keyboards
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1992 09:53:47 +0000
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From: Simon Marlow <simonm@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Unless I'm wrong, LINUX only have support for Finish and US
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keyboards, so can somebody give me some pointers as to how to add UK
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keyboard support to LINUX? Also, am I the first UK 'customer'?
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Thanks,
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Simon.
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--[0407]--
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[0408] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU) Linux_Activists 01/15/92 05:29 (271 lines)
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Subject: Re: SCSI question
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To: mrs@netcom.com (Morgan Schweers), linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 14 Jan 92 22:03:25 -0800.
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 01:18:28 MST
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From: drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU
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Greetings,
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Being a novice at fun stuff like kernel development and device
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driver design, I'd like to know under what circumstances I'd need
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a SCSI driver.
|
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|
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I have a 20Meg floptical disk drive that MS/DOS thinks is just
|
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another drive. No device drivers are needed, etc... It is,
|
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however, a SCSI device. Does this mean that I'll need a driver
|
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for it under Linux?
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Yes. Most definately. The current SCSI situation is that I'm working on
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a multi-tiered driver (interference from fried SCSI hosts, family visits,
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long ski weekends, sysadmin chores and Usenix) with abstract high level
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disk and tape drivers that interface with low level SCSI drivers in a
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device independant manner. The low level driver needed for each SCSI host
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merely has to send SCSI commands and return the results / data to the
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high level driver- bad block remapping, etc are all handled by the
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high level driver.
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The initial low level driver will be for the seagate ST-01 / ST-02
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controllers. Other hosts should be fairly easy to adapt to - see
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the interface spec following this.
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Does anyone have any good kernel and driver design books that
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they can refer me to?
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-- Morgan Schweers
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--------
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Current interface spec for SCSI driver - should have everything
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(keeping my fingers crossed here) ready within two weeks after
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Usenix. I've added a command queing function, where the driver is
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notified on command completion, so that multiple read/writes etc. can
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be accomplished - much better than the kernel blocking until the
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read/write was done....
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-- hosts.h --
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#ifndef __HOST_H__
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#define __HOSTS_H__
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/*
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File hosts.h
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SCSI host adapter include file.
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*/
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#define MAX_SCSI_HOSTS 1
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/*
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The Scsi_Host type has all that is needed to interface with a SCSI
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host in a device independant matter.
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*/
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typedef struct
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{
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/*
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The name pointer is a pointer to the name of the SCSI
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device detected.
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*/
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char *name;
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/*
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The detect function shall return non zero on detection,
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and initialize all data necessary for this particular
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SCSI driver.
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*/
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int (* detect)(void);
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/*
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The info function will return whatever useful
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information the developer sees fit.
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*/
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char *(* info)(void);
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/*
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The command function shall return the SCSI return
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code in the low 8 bits, a driver error in the high 8
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bits. Target is the target ID, IN normal numbers - not a
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bit. The cmnd is the variable length command to
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be sent,
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buff a pointer to the buffer which will be read from /
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written to, and bufflen the length of that buffer
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*/
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int (* command)(unsigned char target, const void *cmnd,
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void *buff, int bufflen);
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/*
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The QueueCommand function works in a similar manner
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to the command function. It takes an additional parameter,
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void (* done)(int code) which is passed the exit result
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when the command is complete.
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*/
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int (* queuecommand)(unsigned char target, const void *cmnd,
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void *buff, int bufflen, void (*done)(int));
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/*
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present contains a flag as to weather we are present -
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so we don't have to call detect multiple times.
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*/
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unsigned char present;
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} Scsi_Host;
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/*
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The scsi_hosts array is the array containing the data for all
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possible <supported> scsi hosts.
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*/
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extern Scsi_Host scsi_hosts[MAX_SCSI_HOSTS];
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/*
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scsi_init initializes the scsi hosts.
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*/
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void scsi_init(void);
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#endif
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--- scsi.h ---
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#ifndef __SCSI_H__
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#define __SCSI_H__
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/*
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For documentation on the OPCODES, MESSAGES, and SENSE values,
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please consult the SCSI standard.
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*/
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/*
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SCSI opcodes
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*/
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#define TEST_UNIT_READY 0x00
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#define REZERO_UNIT 0x01
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#define REQUEST_SENSE 0x03
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#define FORMAT_UNIT 0x04
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#define REASSIGN_BLOCKS 0x07
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#define READ_6 0x08
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#define WRITE_6 0x0a
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#define SEEK 0x0b
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#define INQUIRY 0x12
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#define MODE_SELECT 0x15
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#define RESERVE 0x16
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#define RELEASE 0x17
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#define COPY 0x18
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#define MODE_SENSE 0x1a
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#define START_STOP 0x1b
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#define RECIEVE_DAIGNOSTIC 0x1c
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#define SEND_DIAGNOSTIC 0x1d
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#define ALLOW_MEDIUM_REMOVAL 0x1e
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#define READ_CAPACITY 0x25
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#define READ_10 0x28
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#define WRITE_10 0x2a
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#define SEEK_10 0x2b
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#define WRITE_VERIFY 0x2e
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#define VERIFY 0x2f
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#define SEARCH_HIGH 0x30
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#define SEARCH_EQUAL 0x31
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#define SEARCH_LOW 0x32
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#define SET_LIMITS 0x33
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#define COMPARE 0x39
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#define COPY_VERIFY 0x3a
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/*
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MESSAGE CODES
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*/
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#define COMMAND_COMPLETE 0x00
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#define EXTENDED_MESSAGE 0x01
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#define SAVE_POINTERS 0x02
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#define RESTORE_POINTERS 0x03
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#define DISCONNECT 0x04
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#define INITIATOR_ERROR 0x05
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#define ABORT 0x06
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#define MESAGE_REJECT 0x07
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#define NOP 0x08
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#define MSG_PARITY_ERROR 0x09
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#define LINKED_CMD_COMPLETE 0x0a
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#define LINKED_FLG_CMD_COMPLETE 0x0b
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#define BUS_DEVICE_RESET 0x0c
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#define IDENTIFY 0x80
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/*
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Our errors returned by OUR driver, NOT SCSI message. Orr'd with
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SCSI message passed back to driver <IF any>.
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*/
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/* NO error */
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#define DID_OK 0x0000
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/* Couldn't connect before timeout period */
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#define DID_NO_CONNECT 0x0100
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/* BUS stayed busy through time out period */
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#define DID_BUS_BUSY 0x0200
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/* TIMED OUT for other reason */
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#define DID_TIME_OUT 0x0300
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/* ERROR from TARGET */
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#define DID_TERROR 0x0400
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/* TARGET was busy */
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#define DID_TBUSY 0x0500
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/* TARGET disconnected prematurely */
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#define DID_TDISCONNECT 0x0600
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/* TARGET was off line */
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#define DID_TOFFLINE 0x0700
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/* TARGET wants US to send IT a message */
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#defibe DID_TREQ_MSG_OUT 0x0800
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/* TARGET parity error */
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#define DID_TPARITY 0x0900
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/* TARGET requested reselect */
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#define DID_TRESELECT 0x0A00
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/* TARGET was not in the range 0-6 inlclusive */
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#define DID_BAD_TARGET 0x0B00
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/*
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SENSE KEYS
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*/
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#define NO_SENSE 0x00
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#define RECOVERED_ERROR 0x01
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#define NOT_READY 0x02
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#define MEDIUM_ERROR 0x03
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#define HARDWARE_ERROR 0x04
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#define ILLEGAL_REQUEST 0x05
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#define UNIT_ATTENTION 0x06
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#define DATA_PROTECT 0x07
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#define BLANK_CHECK 0x08
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#define COPY_ABORTED 0x0a
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#define ABORTED_COMMAND 0x0b
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#define VOLUME_OVERFLOW 0x0d
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#define MISCOMPARE 0x0e
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/*
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DEVICE TYPES
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*/
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#define TYPE_DISK 0x00
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#define TYPE_TAPE 0x01
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#define TYPE_WORM 0x04 /* Treated as ROM by our system */
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#define TYPE_ROM 0x05
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#define TYPE_NO_LUN 0x7f
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/*
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Every SCSI command starts with a one byte OP-code.
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The next byte's high three bits are the LUN of the
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device. Any multi-byte quantities are stored high byte
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first, and may have a 5 bit MSB in the same byte
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as the LUN.
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*/
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#endif
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[0409] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John T Kohl) Linux_Activists 01/15/92 12:12 (19 lines)
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Subject: Re: linux sockets and stuff
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 08:47:28 -0800
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To: ury segal <ury@cs.huji.ac.il>
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: ury segal's message of Wed, 15 Jan 92 16:41:57 +0200,
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From: John T Kohl <jtkohl@cs.Berkeley.EDU>
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Reply-To: jtkohl@cs.Berkeley.EDU
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> From: ury segal <ury@cs.huji.ac.il>
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> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 16:41:57 +0200
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> I understood U R writing the linux socket liberary. When will it be ready ?
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I've said this on the list before, and I'll say it again now. I am NOT
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working on BSD networking.
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I _WAS_ doing some work to port various utilities that come on the BSD
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networking _release_.
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John
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[0410] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Linus Benedict Torvalds) Linux_Activists 01/15/92 13:15 (83 lines)
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Subject: the rest of the linux-0.12 distribution
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1992 19:49:55 +0200
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From: Linus Benedict Torvalds <torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi>
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Ok, I have uploaded the rest of the linux distribution to nic.funet.fi.
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They aren't visible yet, but I guess they'll show up tomorrow or so.
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The new files are:
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- fileutil.tar.Z, which contains most of the GNU fileutils. It's not
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the latest release, so if you want that, you'll have to compile it
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for linux. No source changes, but a lot of -DSTPCPY_MISSING etc in
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the makefiles.
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- hd.c. I have gotten one problem report already about hd-handling in
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0.12. This is a correction to kernel/blk_drv/hd.c, and should
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hopefully correct the problem. There was also a problem with a
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second harddisk not working although the first one did: I think I
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found the problem, and fixed it. If you cannot get linux operating
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at all (but the bug wasn't that severe, I think), and are thus unable
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to recompile it, mail me.
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- include.tar.Z. Yes. Yet another include.tar.Z. I don't save old
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versions, so I don't do cdiffs :(. I still expect patches to be
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cdiffs. Bastard, ain't I?
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- lib.tar.Z. The library sources.
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- libc.a.Z. Compiled libc.a
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- mkswap. This should have been on the root-diskette, but was
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forgotten. See description in RELNOTES.
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- system.tar.Z. The latest sources to the system files: mkswap, mkfs,
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fsck and fdisk.
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- utils.tar.Z. Contains a new tar (you can use the old one to untar
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this, but this should understand about symbolic links etc), make,
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uemacs and some minor programs (sed and basename I think).
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The old utilbin.tar.Z file should be replaced by 'fileutil' and 'utils'.
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The old include.tar.Z, libc.a library.tar.Z should be replaces by their
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newer versions. The old uemacs.Z, bash.Z can also be removed from the
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archives.
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There is some overlapping between these files and the root-diskette (and
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older versions of linux).
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And over to other things:
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Someone asked on comp.os.minix how to move non-tar files to a linux
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partition: the INSTALL-0.11 told about tar-files, but not about things
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like libc.a. The easiest answer is to tar the single file into a
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tar-file, and then the problem is reduced to something we can handle.
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Another possibility is to use the mtools package, but there were so many
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questions about it the last time that I'm not even going to mention it
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this time around.
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A third possibility is to just write the file to a floppy using
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rawrite.exe or NU or something, and then reading the floppy and
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truncating at the filelength. This means you have to remember how long
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the file was. Truncation can be done by 'dd' or by 'head -c'.
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And one warning...
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There are easy ways to make fsck report errors on your harddisk that
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were introduced with the demand-loading in 0.11. It's not a bug, but I
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thought I'd warn everyone:
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While a program is running, it's inode is marked in use. Thus if you
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delete a running command, it seems to be gone, but the file is still
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there (standard unix practice). Sync a thousand times, and the file
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will still not be really deleted until the inode no longer is in use:
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This may not happen if the file was /bin/update or /bin/sh.
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The result is that if you reboot with a deleted file in use, fsck will
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wanr about a lot of unused blocks that are marked in use. No problem,
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'fsck -a' repairs it, and it /really/ isn't a bug, it's just that we
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haven't got something like shutdown yet that sees to these kinds of
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problems.
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Linus
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[0411] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) Linux_Activists 01/15/92 14:16 (31 lines)
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Subject: Re: raw disk device
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 13:58:51 -0500
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From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
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To: Peter Gober <qed@cs.tu-berlin.de>
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi, erweka@cs.tu-berlin.de
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In-Reply-To: Peter Gober's message of Wed, 15 Jan 92 19:48:32 MET,
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Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
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From: Peter Gober <qed@cs.tu-berlin.de>
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 19:48:32 MET
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Having not much knowledge about UNIX devices I tried to port "mtools", a PD
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collection of MS-DOS read/write-tools for Unix. It compiled well, but didn't
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work, obviously, because it requires a raw disk device instead of a block
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disk device. A driver for this seems to be missing from the Linux kernel.
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No, you can just use the block disk device. It's already been ported to
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Linux, however. (although it's pretty easy to port)
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On TSX-11.MIT.EDU:
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/pub/linux/ports/mtools-patches.tar --- contains some patches to make
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mtools compile on linux and to add support of > 32 Meg
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DOS hard disk partitions.
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/pub/linux/sources/usr.bin/mtools_sh.?.Z --- contains the latest
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version of the mtools package
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- Ted
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[0412] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter Gober) Linux_Activists 01/15/92 14:17 (20 lines)
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Subject: raw disk device
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From: Peter Gober <qed@cs.tu-berlin.de>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 19:48:32 MET
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Cc: erweka@cs.tu-berlin.de (Reinhard Koehn)
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Running Linux on an IBM PC, what could more interesting than being able to
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read/write MS-DOS diskettes directly?
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Having not much knowledge about UNIX devices I tried to port "mtools", a PD
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collection of MS-DOS read/write-tools for Unix. It compiled well, but didn't
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work, obviously, because it requires a raw disk device instead of a block
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disk device. A driver for this seems to be missing from the Linux kernel.
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I am not able to write this driver, but would be very thankful if someone
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could tell me whether I did something wrong, or would write it (it can't be
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difficult for one of those experiences Unix hackers...).
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Thank you.
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Peter (qed@cs.tu-berlin.de)
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[0413] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter MacDonald) Linux_Activists 01/15/92 14:58 (82 lines)
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Subject: console problems
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 11:43:06 PST
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From: pmacdona@sanjuan.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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There are a few small anoyances in the console patches for VC.
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All in all, .12 is an amazing leap over .11.
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First, to the termcap, you should add to your termcap entry,
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:rs=\Ec:
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This defines the reset string. Otherwise, window sizes etc hang around.
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It seems some systems define \E> instead of \Ec, but this according
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to DEC (who created vt100) is to reset to application keypad. So
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console uses \Ec. Argg.
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Second, autodectection correctly identifies my ATI card, but only supports
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132 line mode, which my monitor (and preferences) don't. So, anyone know
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the correc mode to use? The old code I have has to use int 10 twice, once
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to set the mode and once to set the font. Also a termcap entry for 50 line mode
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needs to be added.
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Screen dumping isn't working cause the handler in tty_ioctl.c didn't make
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make it through Linus's vicous editing. Screen blanking ditto.
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I note that when at the bottom of the screen now, hitting enter causes
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an unpleasant jitter on the screen, in VC. This is probably as
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a result of using Video memory. I plan on posting a patch (as soon
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as I get time) that will let you use ram buffers instead of video
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ram, as a conditional compile. It turns out that when X shows up,
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we will need buffers to store video contents in anyways, but ...
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The problem is that the screen size can be determined dynamically
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at boot time. This is nice, but I think a conditional compile
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should be added to setup.S to allow the individual to select a
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screen dimension as the default, either with a timeout upon
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selection, or with just a hardcoded one videomode. ie
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#define DEFAULT_VIDEO_MODE ati3
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#ifdef DEFAULT_VIDEO_MODE ati3
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use ati3 as default
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#else
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use detection, (maybe default to 80x25 if timeout)
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#endif
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The other problem with my old console.c was that the buffer size had
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to be hard coded. This was tough to do when the screen dimensions
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could vary dynamically. My new approach will be:
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/*#define RAM_BUFFER_SIZE (MAX_CONSOLES*MAX_COLS*MAX_ROWS)*/
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#ifdef RAM_BUFFER_SIZE
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static short vc_video_buf[RAM_BUFFER_SIZE];
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#endif
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This will allow each individual to either specify exactly how much
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precious kernel memory they want to give up or, how many consoles
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they desire of whic maximum dimensions, all without modifying code.
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This will also allow VC to work with non EGA/VGA, not a problem
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for me, but no good reason to exclude them.
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It will also allow screen blanking to work on all systems, again.
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None of this should be too tough, since Linus has already done all the
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knotty work of dividing up a single big buffer. And when
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X (or MGR) comes, coexistance should be easy.
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Finally, setterm.c will be changed to no longer consult your terminal
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type. Else, you will note that con132x44 does not allow setterm to
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do anything.
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Sorry about all this mess, but due to my situation (sob, sob), I
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don't have all that much time to devote to Linux. Most of the
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stuff I submitted to Linus was, shall we say, half baked, but
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well intentioned. But I am ecstatic to play any part in it.
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In fact, it looks like Linus and I, between us, have managed
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to pound out a design for shared libraries that is excruciatingly
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simple to implement. That is what I will be working on next,
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(unless Linus beets me to the punch).
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--[0413]--
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[0414] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Linus Benedict Torvalds) Linux_Activists 01/15/92 15:27 (29 lines)
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Subject: policy for accepting patches to 0.12
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1992 22:09:37 +0200
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From: Linus Benedict Torvalds <torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi>
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Ok, I forgot to mention this in my last post, but I'm afraid I'll have
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to warn all of you that want to implement a new feature: I will not
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accept big non-localized patches to 0.12. This doesn't mean you cannot
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implement something neat, but it does mean that it probably won't be in
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0.13 unless it's so neat I cannot live without it.
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There are good reasons for this: I'll have to do some studuing that I
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missed the last semester due to working on linux, and the courses start
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tomorrow. That was one of the reasons for the fixed release-date of the
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current version.
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Also, VFS support (which is missing in 0.12, although there were
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alpha-patches for it) will probably be implemented for 0.13, and I need
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a relatively clean kernel for that: as pmacdona found out, the patches
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that get in put after other patches have to be extensively edited to
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fit.
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This does NOT mean that I won't accept bug-reports and patches. Also,
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it doesn't mean I won't accept the init/login package: I assume that
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won't touch the kernel very much. I hope this won't be a big problem:
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most of the things people wanted are in 0.12. And with VFS we'll
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eventually get the longer filenames that was also high on the list of
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wanted things.
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Linus
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--[0414]--
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[0416] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steve McCoole ) Linux_Activists 01/15/92 16:42 (20 lines)
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Subject: Adaptec SCSI driver work underway?
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From: smm@acd4.acd.com ( Steve McCoole )
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 15:37:13 EST
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Greetings,
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Does anyone know of any current work underway on a Linux SCSI
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driver for the Adaptec 154x series? I'd really be interested
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in Linux but all I have available to me is a SCSI drive ( have
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to cross-develop and experiment on the same disk, not good.. ).
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I'm also not really clear on what type of setup was needed
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under Minix(?) to do cross development for Linux if I under
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took working on this myself.
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Thanks!
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Steve
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--
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Steve McCoole | smm@acd4.acd.com / uunet!acd4!smm
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Applied Computing Devices, Inc.
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Terre Haute, IN "The Silicon Cornfield"
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--[0416]--
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[0417] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU) Linux_Activists 01/15/92 18:17 (30 lines)
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Subject: Re: Adaptec SCSI driver work underway?
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To: smm@acd4.acd.com ( Steve McCoole ), linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 15 Jan 92 15:37:13 -0500.
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 15:57:59 MST
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From: drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU
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Greetings,
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Does anyone know of any current work underway on a Linux SCSI
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driver for the Adaptec 154x series? I'd really be interested
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in Linux but all I have available to me is a SCSI drive ( have
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to cross-develop and experiment on the same disk, not good.. ).
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I'm also not really clear on what type of setup was needed
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under Minix(?) to do cross development for Linux if I under
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took working on this myself.
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Thanks!
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Steve
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--
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Steve McCoole | smm@acd4.acd.com / uunet!acd4!smm
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Applied Computing Devices, Inc.
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Terre Haute, IN "The Silicon Cornfield"
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--------
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If it hasn't been lost, you might want to write the low level interface part
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of what i'm working on - I've got disk and tape drivers on the way that are
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independant of the SCSI host and low level software. The final (I think)
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revision of the interface hosts.h and scsi.h files were posted to the
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mailing list.
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--[0417]--
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[0418] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tad Hunt) Linux_Activists 01/15/92 18:21 (15 lines)
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Subject: Linux-0.12
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From: hunt@cthulhu.control.com (Tad Hunt)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 17:59:23 EST
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I'm having a problem booting the new Linux 0.12 bootimage disk.
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I downloaded it, uncompressed and wrote it to a 1.44MB disk with RaWrite.
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Unfortunately, when I boot, I get this:
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(some IBM graphics character)
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Loa
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And the system halts. I don't know what's wrong since Linux-0.11 worked fine.
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Does this have something to do with the graphics card detection? I have
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an ET4000-based SVGA card, if that matters. Any suggestions?
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--[0418]--
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[0419] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tad Hunt) Linux_Activists 01/15/92 18:33 (21 lines)
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Subject: Re: Linux-0.12
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From: hunt@cthulhu.control.com (Tad Hunt)
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To: drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 18:17:45 EST
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: <199201152316.AA07001@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU>; from "drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU" at Jan 15, 92 4:16 pm
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> Has linux bootstrapped (Ie the loading..... mesage finished)?
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>
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> Do you get hex numbres too - or a single character?
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>
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>
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>
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No, that's the problem... It starts to say "Loading..."
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but only gets to "Loa" when it freezes.
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At first I thought it was a bad download but I went and downloaded
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the file again, compared the file size to the original but it still
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won't work.
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So basically I get a single graphics character (same one every time)
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and "Loa" and that's it.
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--[0419]--
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[0420] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU) Linux_Activists 01/15/92 18:34 (37 lines)
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Subject: Re: Linux-0.12
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To: hunt@cthulhu.control.com (Tad Hunt)
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 15 Jan 92 18:17:45 -0500.
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 16:24:05 MST
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From: drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU
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--------
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> Has linux bootstrapped (Ie the loading..... mesage finished)?
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>
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> Do you get hex numbres too - or a single character?
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>
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>
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>
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No, that's the problem... It starts to say "Loading..."
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but only gets to "Loa" when it freezes.
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At first I thought it was a bad download but I went and downloaded
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the file again, compared the file size to the original but it still
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won't work.
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So basically I get a single graphics character (same one every time)
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and "Loa" and that's it.
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--------
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Your binary is corrupt - Loading is printed in a single int 10h call, so at
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least that much should be printed. The graphics character and hang would
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indicate the boot sector had been corrupted. You might examine it with
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debug or NU and look at the Loading message, etc, and compare a disassembly
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to the source.
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probably isn't getting to the first int 13h call.
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--[0420]--
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[0421] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jon Tombs) Linux_Activists 01/15/92 19:16 (38 lines)
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Subject: Linux install
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1992 23:15:00 +0000
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From: Jon Tombs <jon@robots.oxford.ac.uk>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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:->From simonm%uk.ac.glasgow.dcs@fi.hut.santra Wed Jan 15 23:32:57 1992
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:->Also, am I the first UK 'customer'?
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Maybe not :-).
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I've just got round to installing linux on my hard disk, after being
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suitably impressed with the 0.11 bootable images. I've today ordered
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a second disk so until that arrives I'm sorry that I won't be doing any
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programing.
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A couple of points:
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In the INSTALL documents it asks you to (in a for loop):
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cp -r /dev /user
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Not surprisingly this hangs as cp trys to read the devices and doesn't cp
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special devices (well it didn't for me!). Can I suggest the documentation
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changes to:
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uncompress < /usr/bin/tar.Z > /user/tar
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/user/tar xf - bin dev etc usr tmp | (cd /user ; tar xfv -)
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which will copy the /dev entries.
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Also has anyone got the -M (multivolumes) to work? I get EIO at the end
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of disk and never asked for the next volume.
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Thanks for a fun time.
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Jon.
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---
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_________
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/ <jon@uk.ac.oxford.robots> UK
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/ _ __ <...!mcsun!ukc!robots.oxford.ac.uk!jon> Uck
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(_/ (_) / / <jon%robots.oxford.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk> World
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[0425] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robert Blum) Linux_Activists 01/15/92 21:19 (11 lines)
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Subject: All V0.12 stuff is now available on tupac-amaru
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 03:09:24 +0100
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From: blum@cip-s01.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Robert Blum)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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The subject says it all... And my apologies to all who downloaded
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the corrupted (0 Byte) bootimage of 0.12
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This is corrected now
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C U l8r
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Robert Blum
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[0426] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Teresa Selling) Linux_Activists 01/15/92 22:55 (10 lines)
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Subject: kermit send/receive
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From: Teresa Selling <tselling@natasha.iusb.indiana.edu>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 22:46:21 EST
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I cannot seem to send/receive files since I started using 0.12
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I think the problem lies in the virtual consoles because I know I cannot
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upload/download when I am rlogged-in to one of my other accounts at school.
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Is there a way around this? It would be nice to upload/download in the
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background by using the virtual consoles. Does anyone have any comments or
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suggestions?
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[0427] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Teresa Selling) Linux_Activists 01/15/92 23:06 (8 lines)
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Subject: Availability of additional 0.12 files at tsx-11
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 22:53:18 est
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From: Teresa Selling <tselling@natasha.iusb.indiana.edu>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Does anyone know when the fileutil.tar.Z utils.tar.Z ... new include and
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library files for ver 0.12 will be available at tsx-11?
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[0428] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (boltonja@cs.rose-hulman.edu) Linux_Activists 01/15/92 23:21 (14 lines)
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Subject: virtual consoles?
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 23:14:19 EST
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From: boltonja@cs.rose-hulman.edu
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Can someone please tell me how to use the virtual consoles under
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Linux? I can switch to the alternate consoles, but there is no command
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prompt. I am relatively new to the Unix world, so I am probably missing
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something simple.
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Also, how do I take advantage of the alternate SVGA screen modes?
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Thanks.
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Jerry Bolton, Jr.
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[0429] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Andrew Gillham) Linux_Activists 01/15/92 23:43 (61 lines)
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Subject: Re: Linux
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 23:35:49 -0500
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From: gillham@edmund.cs.andrews.edu (Andrew Gillham)
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To: tim@maths.tcd.ie
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In-Reply-To: <1992Jan13.141829.2257@maths.tcd.ie>
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In article <1992Jan13.141829.2257@maths.tcd.ie> you write:
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>Is any independent person actually running Linux,
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>and can give an opinion on its merits
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>vis-a-vis 386-Minix?
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I've used both, Minix386 about 6months ago, Linux for the last month.
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Linux is a lot faster I feel, and ports better according to people on
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the mailing list. It is compiled with gcc, and feels pretty stable
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and solid. I would suggest you give it a go for a couple of days
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and see how you like it.
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>While I could be convinced on this,
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>it seems to me pretty unlikely on the face of it
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>that anyone could really write a reliable operating system
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>from scratch in a short time.
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>After all, it took Tanenbaum years to write Minix,
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>and he worked night and day without stop,
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>and had a team working under him too.
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>One only has to look at the sources
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>to see the sheer intellectual work involved
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>in such an enterprise.
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Then Linus is a f**king code poet. I don't know how long he's been
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working on it, but if it's been "months" I'd be *super* impressed!
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Right now I'm just real impressed.. :-)
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Seriously though there have been quite a few contributions from other
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net.code.poets to Linux so it's not like it was a total one man effort,
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though Linus seems to have done most the core operating system stuff.
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I'd suggest you send a note to "linux-activists-request@joker.cs.hut.fi"
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and ask to be put on the mailing list if you're real interested or that
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you just download linux itself and play with it or read some of the release
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notes and/or code if you're just mildly intrigued. I don't have a lot
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of time to dedicate to development (ok, none really) but I *really* like
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the idea of a free, evolving (rapidly) UNIX clone that isn't "owned" by
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a big company like Prentice-Hall and has all the hassles (and costs) that
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come along with commercialization. It's Linus' system but because it's
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free (except for your net connections) I think it has the potential to
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become a popular, well supported (ports) system..
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(ok, I got carried away..basic thought: I like it!)
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>Timothy Murphy
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>e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie
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>tel: +353-1-2842366
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>s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
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-Andrew
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--
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=====================================================================
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Andrew Gillham ****** Andrews University ****** (gillham@andrews.edu)
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I would've added a cool .signature, but I already mailed this letter.
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[0430] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga) Linux_Activists 01/15/92 23:49 (31 lines)
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Subject: Re: virtual consoles?
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 23:37:48 EST
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From: zuazaga@ucunix.san.uc.EDU (Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga)
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In-Reply-To: <9201160414.AA17439@cs.rose-hulman.edu>; from
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To: boltonja@cs.rose-hulman.edu
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi (Linux activists)
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Reply-To: zuazaga@ucunix.san.uc.EDU
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X-Envelope-To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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boltonja@cs.rose-hulman.edu wrote:
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> Can someone please tell me how to use the virtual consoles under
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> Linux? I can switch to the alternate consoles, but there is no command
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> prompt. I am relatively new to the Unix world, so I am probably missing
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> something simple.
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first do: doshell /dev/tty2 sh &
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Then switch to tty2 (Left ALT - F2) and bingo! Shell prompt. This is
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real neat.
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By the way, in case any of you were wondering, your serial ports are now
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on /dev/tty64 and /dev/tty65.
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> Also, how do I take advantage of the alternate SVGA screen modes?
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I pass on this one.
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--
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Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga INTERNET: zuazaga@ucunix.san.uc.edu
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Dept. of Physiology & Biophysics BITNET: picone@ucbeh
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University of Cincinnati CIS: 72301,2303
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--[0430]--
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[0431] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 00:32 (66 lines)
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Subject: Re: Availability of additional 0.12 files at tsx-11
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 00:26:51 -0500
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From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
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To: Teresa Selling <tselling@natasha.iusb.indiana.edu>
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: Teresa Selling's message of Wed, 15 Jan 92 22:53:18 est,
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Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 22:53:18 est
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From: Teresa Selling <tselling@natasha.iusb.indiana.edu>
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Does anyone know when the fileutil.tar.Z utils.tar.Z ... new include and
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library files for ver 0.12 will be available at tsx-11?
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They're there now. My apologies for the delay. First it took a while
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because I couldn't log into nic.funet.fi (because too foreign users were
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logged in), and then I was away at a wine tasting class (we did white
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wines tonight; yum! :-)
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Also, someone (qpliu@phoenix.prinnceton.edu from the source files) has
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uploaded to TSX-11 a quick and dirty implementation of init/login. I've
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placed it in ~ftp/pub/linux/sources/sbin on TSX-11, and I've also
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forwarded a copy to nic.funet.fi. It looks pretty minimal and
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bare-bones (it doesn't appear to support run levels), but it appears to
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be functional.
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Perhaps this and the other init development efforts can be merged
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together, with the best code being taken from each.
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The README file for the qpl init/login follows:
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------------------------------------------------------------------
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Although there are other people working on init/getty/login,
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I couldn't wait. Being dumped into root is not so nice.
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There is no getty here. I put /bin/login in the getty field of /etc/ttytab.
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What is here:
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a patch to init/main.c that makes it exec /etc/init.
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init.c
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getttyent.c
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getttynam.c
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ttyent.h (from BSD)
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login.c
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init.c:
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written based on sunos init(8) manpage. differences are
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that the -sb switches are ignored, the window="command" in
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/etc/ttytab is ignored, runs only /etc/rc and ignores
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the result code, utmp and wtmp are not updated, SIGTERM
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is ignored, does not create /etc/ttys, and any
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undiscovered bugs.
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since the manpage doesn't say how the getty entry in
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/etc/ttytab is parsed, using strtok seems reasonable.
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works for /dev/tty0 in 0.11. should be able to hang
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terminals off the serial ports, but i can't test it
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without terminals or cables.
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getttyent.c, getttynam.c, ttyent.h:
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functions to read /etc/ttytab.
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login.c:
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does the basic login stuff. accepts and ignores -p switch.
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uses stuff in getttyent.o and getttynam.o to set TERM.
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makes a better filler in /etc/ttytab than /bin/sh, making
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it easier to avoid being root.
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--[0431]--
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[0432] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Timothy L. Kay) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 01:21 (59 lines)
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Subject: Use PERL rather than C for system commands?
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From: tim@pokey.cs.caltech.edu (Timothy L. Kay)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 22:08:25 -0800
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I've been following the Linux discussion with great interest, and I
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hope to download a copy and try it as soon as I have time.
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I'd like to make a suggestion to the activists group. The suggestion
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goes against the grain of typical Unix system administrator
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philosophy, but I think the suggestion warrants serious consideration.
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Here is my suggestion.
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It seems to me that the language PERL is ideal for implementing many
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of the pieces that are currently missing from Linux. For example,
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init, getty, login, shutdown, halt, cron, inetd, etc. could very
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easily be written in PERL rather than C. Most OS-support programs
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(including the ones mentioned previously) are not time critical. They
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run very infrequently, and the performance degradation (if there is
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any) should be inconsequential.
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There are several advantages to using PERL rather than C.
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First of all, programs would take up much less disk space and RAM. It
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is true that the PERL executable must be in RAM in order to run a PERL
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program, but only one copy ever need be in RAM at any time, and I
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think the savings elsewhere will more than make up the difference.
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(On my workstation, the PERL .text section is about 4 times as large
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as the login .text section. If perhaps four or five memory-resident
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programs are replaced by PERL scripts, the break-even point is
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reached.) Also, if the PERL executable is always resident, then
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loading PERL programs from disk should require very little time.
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A more obvious advantage is that writing PERL programs is much less
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time-consuming that writing C programs. This is due to the fact that
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the compile step gets skipped, and because PERL has a built-in
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debugger.
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Third, I find PERL a *much* better script language than either sh or
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csh.
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Additionally, PERL contains special support to aid in writing secure
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programs. It is easier to write secure SUID programs in PERL than it
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is in C.
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Finally, PERL scripts are architecture-independent. If Linux ever
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gets ported to multiple architectures (which I am guessing it will),
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all support programs written in PERL port with no effort at all.
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There are several disadvantages to using PERL.
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First of all, PERL must be ported to Linux. Of course, PERL should be
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ported to Linux whether or not my suggestion is adopted.
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PERL is a very *expert* friendly language. Learning to program in
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PERL involves a steep learning curve. It takes quite a bit of
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practice to become proficient at writing in PERL. I believe the
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effort is well spent.
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--[0432]--
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[0433] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 01:57 (17 lines)
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Subject: Re: virtual consoles?
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi (Linux activists)
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 23:42:42 MST
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From: drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU
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> Also, how do I take advantage of the alternate SVGA screen modes?
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--------
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If your SVGA chipset is supported, you get a prompt to choose a screen
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mode, or continue for normal EGA operation.
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(Personally, I like the 132 X 60)
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--[0433]--
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[0434] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter MacDonald) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 02:19 (20 lines)
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Subject: PERL
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 23:14:50 PST
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From: pmacdona@sanjuan.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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I am a little opposed to using PERL for development.
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Because.
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We already are using C for most things.
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Sh script has to be there because bash is.
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Everyone would have to become experts in a third language.
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I mean, as far as I am concerned, I'am a little peaved that sh isn't
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more like C. Going to PERL will take us even further from the KISS
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principle. And..
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Shared libraries are coming, so executables will be getting smaller,
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and the break even point for PERL will be increased.
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Don't get me wrong, DO port PERL. But sell the farm...
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--[0434]--
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[0435] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 02:37 (37 lines)
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Subject: Re: Use PERL rather than C for system commands?
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To: tim@pokey.cs.caltech.edu (Timothy L. Kay)
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 15 Jan 92 22:08:25 -0800.
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 00:28:19 MST
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From: drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU
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It seems to me that the language PERL is ideal for implementing many
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of the pieces that are currently missing from Linux. For example,
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init, getty, login, shutdown, halt, cron, inetd, etc. could very
|
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easily be written in PERL rather than C. Most OS-support programs
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(including the ones mentioned previously) are not time critical. They
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run very infrequently, and the performance degradation (if there is
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any) should be inconsequential.
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Can't do standard library calls in perl :( -
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init, shutdown are definates
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getty - maybe
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cron - probably want to use alarms for the next event, so no
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inetd - we want to use listen, so no
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Third, I find PERL a *much* better script language than either sh or
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csh.
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Agreed! Let's get perl for Linux.
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Finally, PERL scripts are architecture-independent. If Linux ever
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gets ported to multiple architectures (which I am guessing it will),
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all support programs written in PERL port with no effort at all.
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Non-issue : any of the programs mentioned above, halt excepted (If we
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are to code in an infinite loop with interrupts disabled) will go
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no deeper than mayuking system calls.
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--------
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--[0435]--
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[0436] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Karl Heinz Kremer) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 02:46 (23 lines)
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Subject: Problems with bootimage
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Reply-To: kremer@sisd.sisd.Kodak.COM
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 08:37:05 +0100
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From: kremer@sisd.sisd.Kodak.COM (Karl Heinz Kremer)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Hi linux specialists,
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i've downloaded the linux software yesterday and tried to create the boot disk. I write the bootimage to a 360k and 1.2M disk with rawrite and used both as bootdisk. In both cases i got the following output on my screen:
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Loading.
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@X:0404
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AX:020A
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000
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CX:0006
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DX:0000.
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@X:0404
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AX:020A
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and so on. What is my problem? Is the bootimage corrupted, or is my machine not able to hanlde linux (386SX 16MHz)?
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Thanks for your help
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Karl Heinz
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--[0436]--
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[0437] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 02:49 (13 lines)
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Subject: Re: Filesystem
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To: juan@noyles.pha.pa.us (Juan Jose T. Noyles)
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 12 Jan 92 18:13:47 -0500.
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 00:42:13 MST
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From: drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU
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Does Linux use the same format as DOS?
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Nope. Supposedly, it uses a minix file system.
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[0438] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mark Denovich) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 03:00 (36 lines)
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Subject: How to get Started
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1992 02:46:53 -0500 (EST)
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From: Mark Denovich <md3z+@andrew.cmu.edu>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Cc:
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I just learned of Linux today. I have a few questions:
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What files do I need to get this running?
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Where?
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How Much disk space do I need?
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Does linux support communications? (i.e. Token Ring card)
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Thanks,
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Mark Denovich
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Computer Consultant
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Carnegie Mellon University
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@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
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@@ Mark "it's only a small blast furnace" Denovich @@
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@=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=@
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@ md3z@andrew.cmu.edu or r746md3z @vb.cc.cmu.edu @
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@ phone: (412)-268-406 Standard Disclaimers Apply @
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@ Quotes: 'Hey I smell smoke' - Eric Furst @
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@ 'Aggggh my computer!!!!!' -me @
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@ 'fizzle'- computer @
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[0439] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (ury segal) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 03:14 (13 lines)
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Subject: swaping
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From: ury segal <ury@cs.huji.ac.il>
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 10:07:23 +0200
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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I have a 25Mhz 386 running linux. I have 40M hard disk, which divide into
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2 patritions: 32M for the root and (hopefully) 8M for swap. Althow
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I read in the release note that mkswap is avleable on the root disk,
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I couldn't find it. Can someone tell me where is it ?
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Also, What about TCP/IP? s someone working on it?
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and ; where is /usr/include ?
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--ury
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[0440] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (IJW11@phx.cam.ac.uk) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 03:14 (9 lines)
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Subject: No subject found in mail header
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 14:56:28 GMT
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From: IJW11@phx.cam.ac.uk
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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I'm interested in a UK keyboard too. The American one is infuriating. I've
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just repaired my machine (faulty RAM) so I have enough memory to compile, so
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I can probably do one within two days or so.
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Ian Wells.
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[0441] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (IJW11@phx.cam.ac.uk) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 03:17 (8 lines)
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Subject: No subject found in mail header
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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 92 02:59:22 GMT
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From: IJW11@phx.cam.ac.uk
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Apparently-To: Linux-activists@niksula.hut.fi
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Has anybody done a British keyboard yet? The American one is getting infuriating.
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I'll do one if no-one else has, but I'm lazy... 8-)
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Ian Wells
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[0442] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rwo-Hsi Wang) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 03:18 (12 lines)
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Subject: Linux and ESDI
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From: rhwang@cs.utexas.edu (Rwo-Hsi Wang)
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1992 02:08:19 -0600
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Does Linux support ESDI hard drive? I checked the mail archive of Linux
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but couldn't find an absolute confirmation to this question. (Linus put
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"ESDI drives should work ok, but ...". Another person mentioned that his/her
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ESDI drive didn't seem to like Linux.)
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Thanks.
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Rwo-Hsi
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[0443] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rwo-Hsi Wang) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 03:23 (12 lines)
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Subject: Linux and ESDI
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From: rhwang@cs.utexas.edu (Rwo-Hsi Wang)
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1992 02:08:19 -0600
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Does Linux support ESDI hard drive? I checked the mail archive of Linux
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but couldn't find an absolute confirmation to this question. (Linus put
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"ESDI drives should work ok, but ...". Another person mentioned that his/her
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ESDI drive didn't seem to like Linux.)
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Thanks.
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Rwo-Hsi
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[0444] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mika Matti Jalava) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 03:30 (28 lines)
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Subject: Re: Linux and ESDI
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From: Mika Matti Jalava <r36110m@kaira.hut.fi>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 10:19:51 EET
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In-Reply-To: <9201160808.AA25887@cs.utexas.edu>; from "Rwo-Hsi Wang" at Jan 16, 92 2:08 am
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> Does Linux support ESDI hard drive? I checked the mail archive of Linux
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> but couldn't find an absolute confirmation to this question. (Linus put
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> "ESDI drives should work ok, but ...". Another person mentioned that his/her
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> ESDI drive didn't seem to like Linux.)
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I have been writing about my ESDI disk every now and then. Now it
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SEEMS to work OK, but be warned: if I get any read errors, the system
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just hangs, doesn't even boot with ctrl-alt-del. Also I had to remove
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the printk statement in hd.c that puts "unexpected hd interrupt" on
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the screen, because I was getting so many of those messages that
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sometimes I couldn't see anything else on the screen. Luckily I had
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other drives to compile a new system.
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I am going to try fixing the driver so that the interrupt gets handled
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as it should, but it might take some time as I'm not experienced
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systems programmer. Anyway, the hd driver LOOKS simple enough for me
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to try. But first I have to find some info on the ESDI controller, so
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I'll know what it wants.
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In the meantime, you should be able to use ESDI drives, if you can
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live with these nuisances.
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Mika
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[0445] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (ury segal) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 03:31 (13 lines)
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Subject: swaping
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From: ury segal <ury@cs.huji.ac.il>
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 10:07:23 +0200
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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I have a 25Mhz 386 running linux. I have 40M hard disk, which divide into
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2 patritions: 32M for the root and (hopefully) 8M for swap. Althow
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I read in the release note that mkswap is avleable on the root disk,
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I couldn't find it. Can someone tell me where is it ?
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Also, What about TCP/IP? s someone working on it?
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and ; where is /usr/include ?
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--ury
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[0446] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (ury segal) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 03:53 (13 lines)
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Subject: swaping
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From: ury segal <ury@cs.huji.ac.il>
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 10:07:23 +0200
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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I have a 25Mhz 386 running linux. I have 40M hard disk, which divide into
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2 patritions: 32M for the root and (hopefully) 8M for swap. Althow
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I read in the release note that mkswap is avleable on the root disk,
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I couldn't find it. Can someone tell me where is it ?
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Also, What about TCP/IP? s someone working on it?
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and ; where is /usr/include ?
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--ury
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--[0446]--
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[0447] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (drew@kinglear.cs.colorado.edu) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 03:53 (95 lines)
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Subject: Re: Problems with bootimage
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To: kremer@sisd.sisd.kodak.com
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 16 Jan 92 08:37:05 +0100.
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 01:41:02 MST
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From: drew@kinglear.cs.colorado.edu
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Hi linux specialists,
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i've downloaded the linux software yesterday and tried to create the boot d
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isk. I write the bootimage to a 360k and 1.2M disk with rawrite and used bot
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h as bootdisk. In both cases i got the following output on my screen:
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Currently, unless you patch the boot image, Linux will not boot off of a
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360K disk in a 1.2M drive. Messy-Loss hard codes the number of sectors
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into the boot image, where as Linux finds the number from the BIOS.
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Problem is that the BIOS returns the MAXIMUM capacity of the drive, not
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what the current disk has on it.
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As far as the 1.2, the error dump shows that it was probably formatted
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as a 360K disk.
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This is the error dump code, working perfectly in the MASM version of the
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source, binged by me on the translation back to Unix assembler
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(Perl script was one way.)
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I should probably explain it :
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The loading prompy prints one '.' for each track read, before it is read.
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The Loading. means a read was attempted on the first track
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Loading.
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I left off a conditional jump in the translation to Bruce's assembler
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syntax, so a register was printed where it should have been,
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but the first hex number is the return code (from AX) of the failed
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int 0x13.
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ah = error code, 4, I believe sector not found?
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al = sectors successfully read.
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@X:0404
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After that, the registers as they were on entry to the int 0x13 call are
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printed so we know exactly what is going on.
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AX:020A
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000
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CX:0006
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DX:0000.
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AH = 2 read
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AL = sectors requested
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bx = address
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CL is the starting sector, 6
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CH is the track
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DH is the head
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DL is the disk
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This means that the read of ten sectors, starting at sector 6 head 0
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disk 0 cylinder 0 failed after successfully reading four sectors starting at
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sector 6. Means sector 10 was not found, 9 sector diskette,
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or perhaps CMOS setup wrong.
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Try reformatting a disk with format a: /n:15 /t:80 and rawrite to that.
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CMOS setting of the floppy.
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@X:0404
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AX:020A
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K eeps retrying.
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and so on. What is my problem? Is the bootimage corrupted, or is my machine
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not able to hanlde linux (386SX 16MHz)?
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Thanks for your help
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Karl Heinz
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Floppy disk problem, no more.
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--------
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Well, I'll fix the cosmetics of the error dump, and can also fix it so that
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if a sector is
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not found, it changes sector count to that, so it can adjust itself to
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9 sector disks. Any other sugestions?
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--[0447]--
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[0448] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Nicolas CAILLAUD ) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 04:19 (9 lines)
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Subject: Re: Linux & Mgr
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From: nicolas@cli52fb.edf.fr ( Nicolas CAILLAUD )
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 8:38:24 MET DST
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MGR is the Bellcore Window Manager
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See Comp.os.minix, certainly also
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comp.sources.unix
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Nicolas
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--[0448]--
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[0451] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lars Wirzenius) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 05:41 (11 lines)
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Subject: Re: Linux
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 12:27:46 +0200
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From: wirzeniu@cs.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius)
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To: tim@maths.tcd.ie, gillham@edmund.cs.andrews.edu
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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> Then Linus is a f**king code poet. I don't know how long he's been
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> working on it, but if it's been "months" I'd be *super* impressed!
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> Right now I'm just real impressed.. :-)
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I think he's been at it since about April, 1991. Can't be much longer than
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that, since he didn't get a 386 until spring 1991.
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--[0451]--
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[0452] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jack Dunn) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 07:44 (14 lines)
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Subject: Obtaining Linux
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 07:31:27 EST
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From: Jack Dunn <jack@headless.larc.nasa.gov>
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To: Linux-Activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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I am interested in obtaing the source
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to Linux. Could you please tell
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where I can ftp the sources from.
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I am also interested in being
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added to your mailing list.
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Jack Dunn
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jack@headless.larc.nasa.gov (128.155.20.25)
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--[0452]--
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[0453] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (ury segal) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 08:39 (11 lines)
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Subject: easyest way
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From: ury@mosque.huji.ac.il (ury segal)
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 15:06:03 +0200
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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What is the easyest way to move files from my sun to the linux machine?
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I'm tyerd of using the diskkets, so I thout to use the RS232 port I have,
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and connect it to the Sun's, and use kermit. Does someone ever tryed that?
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--ury
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--[0453]--
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[0454] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jon Allen Boone) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 10:22 (8 lines)
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Subject: Short Introduction to Linux please
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1992 07:56:29 -0500 (EST)
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From: Jon Allen Boone <jb3o+@andrew.cmu.edu>
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To: Linux-Activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Reply-To: jb3o+linux@andrew.cmu.edu
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Cc: Jon Allen Boone <jb3o+linux@andrew.cmu.edu>
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--[0454]--
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[0455] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Timothy Cullip) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 10:28 (30 lines)
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Subject: Uncompress corrupting files
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 10:05:42 -0500
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From: Timothy Cullip <cullip@cs.unc.edu>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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I am new to Linux (I've installed 0.12 and used it for less than 2 hours).
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It looks great!
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So far I've found one problem: uncompress can do weird things.
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This is what I did:
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cd /
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mkdir test
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cp bin/* test
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cd test
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compress *
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uncompress *
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What everything seemed fine up to and through the compress. But
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uncompress * resulted in some of the files uncompressing fine and
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others not. The ones that didn't typically left the .Z file and a
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corresponding non .Z file (that was bad - like 0 bytes).
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If I did an uncompress on each file individually by name (rather than
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using the wildcard *) all is fine.
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Is it the fault of uncompress, or the wildcard *, or am I doing something
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stupid?
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Tim Cullip
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cullip@cs.unc.edu
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--[0455]--
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[0456] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jay Maynard) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 10:44 (18 lines)
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Subject: Boot problem with 0.11
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 09:26 CST
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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From: Jay Maynard <S0JM@ADMIN.HSC.UTH.TMC.EDU>
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(Yes, I know 0.12 is out. Will it fix this problem?)
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System hardware is Mylex 386SX-16 motherboard with 7.5 MB of RAM, an Everex
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EV332 ST506/MFM disk controller, and a Seagate ST251 40 meg disk.
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When I try to boot 0.11, I get an error message complaining that the hard
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disk controller reset got a return code of D2 or D0, and a kernel panic.
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This happens no matter whether I boot up from power off, from the front
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panel reset switch after booting DOS, or with an Alt-Ctrl-Delete from DOS.
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Is my hardware flaky? Is my hardware even supported? How do I go about
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figuring out the problem?
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...Jay Maynard
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--[0456]--
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[0457] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Linus Benedict Torvalds) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 10:50 (38 lines)
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Subject: Re: Uncompress corrupting files
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1992 17:35:42 +0200
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From: Linus Benedict Torvalds <torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi>
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In-Reply-To: Timothy Cullip's message as of Jan 16, 10:05
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To: Timothy Cullip <cullip@cs.unc.edu>, linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Timothy Cullip: "Uncompress corrupting files" (Jan 16, 10:05):
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> uncompress *
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Ok, this has come up before. The bug is (I'm told) in the
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estdio/compress pair: either compress does something it shouldn't really
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do, or estdio has a subtle bug that shows up /only/ with compress, but
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the fact is that [un]compress doesn't like several arguments. There
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should be a fix for this (a patch to estdio), but I have never seen it.
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Do the uncompresses one by one (or in a for-loop), and things are well.
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Someone:
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> kermit on 0.12 doesn't work.
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Yet another thing I forgot to say about the new release: the device
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numbers for tty's have changed: tty0 is now a "general console" - it
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always uses the current console to read/write things (current at the
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time of the system call), tty1-63 are reserved for virtual consoles,
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tty64-127 are reserved for serial io (possibly line printer: how about
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making it a tty-device?) and tty128- are reserved for pty's.
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The com1 is now called /dev/tty64, and com2 is called /dev/tty65. Users
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of the alpha vc package for 0.11 will recognize this numbering. Hope
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this was the only problem.
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Yet someone else:
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> Cannot find mkswap & include.tar.Z
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mkswap was intended to be on the root disk, but I forgot it: it can be
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found at least on nic: /pub/OS/Linux/bin/mkswap. include.tar.Z is in the
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kernel subdir. I think the other sites have them too - search for them
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from the closest site first.
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Linus
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--[0457]--
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[0458] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 11:14 (28 lines)
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Subject: Re: Uncompress corrupting files
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 11:00:02 -0500
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From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
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To: Linus Benedict Torvalds <torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi>
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Cc: Timothy Cullip <cullip@cs.unc.edu>, linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: Linus Benedict Torvalds's message of Thu, 16 Jan 1992 17:35:42 +0200,
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Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1992 17:35:42 +0200
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From: Linus Benedict Torvalds <torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi>
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X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.1.1 5/02/90)
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Timothy Cullip: "Uncompress corrupting files" (Jan 16, 10:05):
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> uncompress *
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Ok, this has come up before. The bug is (I'm told) in the
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estdio/compress pair: either compress does something it shouldn't really
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do, or estdio has a subtle bug that shows up /only/ with compress, but
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the fact is that [un]compress doesn't like several arguments.
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There's also a problem where if you control-C a "zcat filename", it will
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often delete it's input file! I usually type "zcat <filename" because I
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get paranoid....
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I suspect at least some of the problems is that we're using an old
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version of compress. I know I've seen patches on the net to fix at
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least the zcat lossage problem.
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- Ted
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[0459] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Derek Lieber) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 11:15 (62 lines)
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Subject: uncompress and estdio
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 10:54:37 EST
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From: "Derek Lieber" <derek@watson.ibm.com>
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Attached below is a patch to estdio that was posted to comp.os.minix
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awhile back. Last time I looked, the linux version of estdio did *NOT*
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have these patches applied. Maybe that's what causes the uncompress
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problem?
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Derek Lieber
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derek@watson.ibm.com
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-----------------------------------attachment--------------------------------
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Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
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Path: arnor!bywater!uunet!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!ira.uka.de!fauern!NewsServ!rommel
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From: rommel@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Kai Uwe Rommel)
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Subject: Yet another bug in estdio (fread.c)
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Message-ID: <1991Oct3.111254.23702@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE>
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Sender: news@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (News System)
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Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1991 11:12:54 GMT
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Lines: 38
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I noticed another bug in estdio/fread.c. It does not set the _IOEOF flag
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when hitting EOF during an __ioread() call.
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The diff below fixes it and included the previously known bug with
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readsize. I don't know if this fix catches all situations, it works for
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me.
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*** fread.c~ Tue Oct 30 05:33:23 1990
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--- fread.c Thu Oct 3 11:17:50 1991
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***************
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*** 66,71 ****
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--- 66,72 ----
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MEMCPY(p, q, (size_t) readsize);
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p += readsize;
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q += readsize;
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+ readsize = 0;
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}
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else {
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do
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***************
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*** 105,110 ****
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--- 106,114 ----
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reed != 0 && (red = __ioread(fileno(fp), (char *) p, reed)) != 0;
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p += red, reed -= red)
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;
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+
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+ if (red == 0)
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+ SETFLAG(fp, _IOEOF);
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if (reed != 0) {
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if ((readsize -= reed) >= leftover) {
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Kai Uwe Rommel
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/* Kai Uwe Rommel, Munich ----- rommel@informatik.tu-muenchen.de */
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DOS ... is still a real mode only non-reentrant interrupt
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handler, and always will be. -Russell Williams
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[0460] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 13:32 (24 lines)
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Subject: Re: Boot problem with 0.11
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 13:09:29 EST
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From: zuazaga@ucunix.san.uc.EDU (Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga)
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In-Reply-To: <9201161528.AA13668@joker.cs.hut.fi>; from "Jay Maynard" at Jan
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To: S0JM@admin.hsc.uth.tmc.EDU (Jay Maynard)
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi (Linux activists)
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Reply-To: zuazaga@ucunix.san.uc.EDU
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X-Envelope-To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Jay Maynard wrote:
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> (Yes, I know 0.12 is out. Will it fix this problem?)
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It did for me, your milage may vary.
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> When I try to boot 0.11, I get an error message complaining that the hard
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> disk controller reset got a return code of D2 or D0, and a kernel panic.
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I got 0.11 to work by turning off turbo mode. The 0.12 version works at
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full speed, with no complaints. (Thanks Linus!)
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--
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Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga INTERNET: zuazaga@ucunix.san.uc.edu
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Dept. of Physiology & Biophysics BITNET: picone@ucbeh
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University of Cincinnati CIS: 72301,2303
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[0462] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (gordon grant) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 13:52 (18 lines)
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Subject: FAQ anyone ?
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 15:53:14 GMT
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From: gg@jet.uk (gordon grant)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Is there a FAQ for this list ?
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An information sheet ?
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A couple of sentences to get me going ?
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anything at all ? :-)
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Where can I get Linux by mail ? we don't have FTP access here.
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Can I run it from a partition or my SCSI disc ? (Adaptec 1542 with
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Fujitsu disc).
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gg@jet.uk Gordon Grant Jet Abingdon OX14 3EA UK
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Voice +44 235 528822 x4822 Fax +44 235 464404
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--[0462]--
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[0463] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Donald.B.Taber@SYBIL.RISC.ROCKWELL) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 13:52 (23 lines)
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Date: 16 Jan 1992 08:37:29 PDT
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From: Donald.B.Taber@SYBIL.RISC.ROCKWELL.COM
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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X-Vms-Original-To: LINUX
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I'm new to linux and am, of course, filled with burning questions.
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I've been playing with the floppy versions and am all excited about
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installing it on a hard drive. I have noticed, however, that 0.12
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seems to be lacking /dev/hd8 and /dev/hd9. Does this mean that I
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will have trouble installing it on a 2nd (hd5) hard drive? Should
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I swap hard drive positions to avoid it? I imagine that once I'm
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up with sources & a compiler I can get everything straightened out.
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I'm reasonably proficient in C/C++ but have only a user's knowledge
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of Unix. Can anyone suggest a good reference to get me started
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on the real guts of unix architecture, administrative details, etc?
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Thanks.
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Don Taber
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dbt@victoria.risc.rockwell.com
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[0465] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (ury segal) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 14:02 (8 lines)
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Subject: Socket for the people !
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From: ury segal <ury@cs.huji.ac.il>
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 20:28:29 +0200
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Is someone working on sockets ??? If not, I may do it.
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--ury
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--[0465]--
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[0466] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Timothy L. Kay) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 14:19 (15 lines)
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Subject: Re: Use PERL rather than C for system commands?
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From: tim@pokey.cs.caltech.edu (Timothy L. Kay)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 10:55:30 -0800
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I recently submitted a message suggesting that Linux use PERL as the
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implementation lanugage for many of its system support programs. The
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follow-ups indicated that people aren't familiar with the abilities of
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PERL. To address specific points mentioned in the followup, PERL does
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give access to essentially all of the Unix system calls, including
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alarm() and listen(). There is no technical reason why PERL couldn't
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be used; it is simply a question of whether people think the
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philosophical change is justified by the advantages gained.
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Tim
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--[0466]--
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[0467] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter MacDonald) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 14:26 (29 lines)
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Subject: shoelace, and console
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 09:25:33 PST
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From: pmacdona@sanjuan.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Beware, that the shoelace patches I posted overwrite the byte at offset
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that is used for the swap device. That is because I tried to get
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clever and put the "rootdev" in that is in the shoelace config file
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and put it where Linux expects it, ie offset 508. It never worked,
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but I never took it out of the code in shoe.c. Somehow,
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it ends up at 506, where the swapdev is now stored!
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So guess when I found this out, go on, take a guess.
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You got it, right after I blew away my minix partition, to create
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a swap partition. So I can't recompile shoelace without reinstalling
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minix. I don't have the diskspace for this.
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If someone out there has installed my shoelace patches, and has minix,
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can you change the 508, to 510 in shoe.c at around line 548, and recompile.
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Then maybe upload the executable to nic? And maybe let me know?
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Also, there is a problem with special characters in console.c now.
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Even reset doesn't clear it. When I figure it out, I will post
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it as part of my console patch for blanking, dumping et al.
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I don't want to repeat the slew of patches I put out in .11.
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Peter.
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--[0467]--
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[0468] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Linus Benedict Torvalds) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 14:52 (24 lines)
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Subject: No subject found in mail header
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1992 21:19:58 +0200
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From: Linus Benedict Torvalds <torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi>
|
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In-Reply-To: Donald.B.Taber@SYBIL.RISC.ROCKWELL.COM's message as of Jan 16, 8:37
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To: Donald.B.Taber@SYBIL.RISC.ROCKWELL.COM, Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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|
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Donald.B.Taber@SYBIL.RISC.ROCKWELL.COM: "" (Jan 16, 8:37):
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>
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> I'm new to linux and am, of course, filled with burning questions.
|
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> I've been playing with the floppy versions and am all excited about
|
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> installing it on a hard drive. I have noticed, however, that 0.12
|
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> seems to be lacking /dev/hd8 and /dev/hd9. Does this mean that I
|
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> will have trouble installing it on a 2nd (hd5) hard drive?
|
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|
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Argghh. Yet another root-diskette bug. This one is simple to rectify:
|
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make the new devices with;
|
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|
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# mknod /dev/hd8 b 3 8
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# mknod /dev/hd9 b 3 9
|
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|
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and all should be well. I don't have hd8 and hd9, and used just a "cp
|
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+recursive" to get the files copied to the root-diskette. I will write a
|
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C-program to print out 1000 times:"check the rootdiskette next time".
|
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|
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Linus "shamefaced" Torvalds
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--[0468]--
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[0469] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Arlie Davis) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 14:52 (24 lines)
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Subject: Re: PERL
|
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From: Arlie Davis <aldavi01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu>
|
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi (Linux Mailing List)
|
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 14:24:46 EST
|
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|
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> I recently submitted a message suggesting that Linux use PERL as the
|
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> implementation lanugage for many of its system support programs. The
|
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> follow-ups indicated that people aren't familiar with the abilities of
|
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> PERL. To address specific points mentioned in the followup, PERL does
|
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> give access to essentially all of the Unix system calls, including
|
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> alarm() and listen(). There is no technical reason why PERL couldn't
|
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> be used; it is simply a question of whether people think the
|
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> philosophical change is justified by the advantages gained.
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>
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> Tim
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The technical abilities of PERL are not being questioned. But using PERL
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would greatly complicate matters, when there is no storage benefit and a
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performance degradation. (Before you reply that PERL is interpretted, or
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interpiled, remember that very soon Linux will have shared libraries, and I
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believe Linux already has shared and sticky binaries.)
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--
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Arlie Davis
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--[0469]--
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[0470] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Timothy Cullip) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 14:53 (13 lines)
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Subject: VI for Linux
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 12:27:29 -0500
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From: Timothy Cullip <cullip@cs.unc.edu>
|
||
To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
|
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|
||
|
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Is there an ftp'able vi (yes, I'm a dinosaur) binary available for Linux?
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I have this sickening feeling that it will take me awhile to get gcc up
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and working to the point where I can easily compile a version of
|
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vi (e.g. elvis) so I'd like to have a binary if there is one available.
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Tim Cullip
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cullip@cs.unc.edu
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--[0470]--
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[0471] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Arlie Davis) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 14:54 (8 lines)
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Subject: newsgroup?
|
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From: Arlie Davis <aldavi01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu>
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||
To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi (Linux Mailing List)
|
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 14:20:35 EST
|
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There is enough traffic here to warrant a newsgroup, wouldn't you think? Or
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is the privacy worth it? comp.os.linux would be pretty impressive.
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--[0471]--
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[0473] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Timothy Cullip) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 15:07 (13 lines)
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Subject: VI for Linux
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 12:27:29 -0500
|
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From: Timothy Cullip <cullip@cs.unc.edu>
|
||
To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
|
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|
||
|
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Is there an ftp'able vi (yes, I'm a dinosaur) binary available for Linux?
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I have this sickening feeling that it will take me awhile to get gcc up
|
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and working to the point where I can easily compile a version of
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vi (e.g. elvis) so I'd like to have a binary if there is one available.
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Tim Cullip
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cullip@cs.unc.edu
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--[0473]--
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[0474] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Corvin Zahn) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 15:10 (10 lines)
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Subject: linux on PS/2 P70-386?
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From: zahn@nova.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de (Corvin Zahn)
|
||
To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
|
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 20:49:41 MEZ
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Hi,
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does linux run on a PS/2 P70-386 (ESDI-drive) ?
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Corvin
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--[0474]--
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[0475] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lawrence C. Foard) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 15:29 (18 lines)
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Subject: BSD sockets+TCP/IP
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 15:14:19 -0500
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From: entropy@ee.WPI.EDU (Lawrence C. Foard)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
|
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|
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IF YOUR WORKING ON TCP/IP OR SOCKETS READ THIS...
|
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|
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It appears that no one is working on sockets or TCP/IP yet? A friend and I are
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planning to start working on this if no one has already started work.
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If you are working on it please please write so we don't waste our time
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duplicating efforts.
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Questions:
|
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What ethernet boards would you like to see supported?
|
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Currently we are planning to buy an intel board but don't have money to buy
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other boards so would appreciate donations or loans of other manufactorers
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cards. Any technical docs would be helpful, or source code for software that
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uses them.
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--[0475]--
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[0476] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Pietro Caselli) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 15:34 (21 lines)
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Subject: Re: VI for Linux
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 21:08:17 MES
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From: pietro@deis35.cineca.it (Pietro Caselli)
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To: cullip@cs.unc.edu, linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
|
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If people on the mailing list is enough patient I'll post my
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porting of Berkeley Vi 3.0 ( I don't know if I'm going against
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any copyright ... if some one knows plese tell me ! )
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It worked well with Linux 0.11, I don't see why it shouldn't with
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0.12.
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I just need some time, a week, since I destroyed my HD and I'm waiting
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for a brand new :-(
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Ciao.
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_
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| Pietro Caselli
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| Dipartimento di Elettronica, Informatica e Sistemistica
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| Universita' di Bologna
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| Undergraduate Student
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--[0476]--
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[0477] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Linus Benedict Torvalds) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 15:43 (24 lines)
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Subject: No subject found in mail header
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1992 21:19:58 +0200
|
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From: Linus Benedict Torvalds <torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi>
|
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In-Reply-To: Donald.B.Taber@SYBIL.RISC.ROCKWELL.COM's message as of Jan 16, 8:37
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To: Donald.B.Taber@SYBIL.RISC.ROCKWELL.COM, Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
|
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|
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Donald.B.Taber@SYBIL.RISC.ROCKWELL.COM: "" (Jan 16, 8:37):
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>
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> I'm new to linux and am, of course, filled with burning questions.
|
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> I've been playing with the floppy versions and am all excited about
|
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> installing it on a hard drive. I have noticed, however, that 0.12
|
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> seems to be lacking /dev/hd8 and /dev/hd9. Does this mean that I
|
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> will have trouble installing it on a 2nd (hd5) hard drive?
|
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|
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Argghh. Yet another root-diskette bug. This one is simple to rectify:
|
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make the new devices with;
|
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|
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# mknod /dev/hd8 b 3 8
|
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# mknod /dev/hd9 b 3 9
|
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|
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and all should be well. I don't have hd8 and hd9, and used just a "cp
|
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+recursive" to get the files copied to the root-diskette. I will write a
|
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C-program to print out 1000 times:"check the rootdiskette next time".
|
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|
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Linus "shamefaced" Torvalds
|
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--[0477]--
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[0478] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (LCDR Michael E. Dobson) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 16:24 (38 lines)
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Subject: Re: your mail
|
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From: "LCDR Michael E. Dobson" <rdc30@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil>
|
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
|
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 15:23:56 EST
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In-Reply-To: <199201161919.AA06121@kruuna.helsinki.fi>; from "Linus Benedict Torvalds" at Jan 16, 92 9:19 pm
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>
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> Donald.B.Taber@SYBIL.RISC.ROCKWELL.COM: "" (Jan 16, 8:37):
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> >
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> > I'm new to linux and am, of course, filled with burning questions.
|
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> > I've been playing with the floppy versions and am all excited about
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> > installing it on a hard drive. I have noticed, however, that 0.12
|
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> > seems to be lacking /dev/hd8 and /dev/hd9. Does this mean that I
|
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> > will have trouble installing it on a 2nd (hd5) hard drive?
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>
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> Argghh. Yet another root-diskette bug. This one is simple to rectify:
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> make the new devices with;
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>
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> # mknod /dev/hd8 b 3 8
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> # mknod /dev/hd9 b 3 9
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>
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> and all should be well. I don't have hd8 and hd9, and used just a "cp
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> +recursive" to get the files copied to the root-diskette. I will write a
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> C-program to print out 1000 times:"check the rootdiskette next time".
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>
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> Linus "shamefaced" Torvalds
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>
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Either that or include the instructions in the INSTALL/RELNOTES and/or
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keep them on your working copy even though you don't have those partitions.
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I don't have 4 partitions on my first hd but keep the devices in /dev "just
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in case"
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Regards,
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--
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Mike Dobson, Sys Admin for | Internet: rdc30@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil
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nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil | UUCP: ...uunet!mimsy!nmrdc1!rdc30
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AT&T 3B2/600G Sys V R 3.2.2 | BITNET: dobson@usuhsb or nrd0mxd@vmnmdsc
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WIN/TCP for 3B2 | MCI-Mail: 377-2719 or 0003772719@mcimail.com
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[0479] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Arlie Davis) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 16:38 (7 lines)
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Subject: Duplicates...
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From: Arlie Davis <aldavi01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi (Linux Mailing List)
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 16:14:13 EST
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I'm starting to see duplicate messages from the mailing list -- any clues, or
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is this just a net.hiccup?
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[0480] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (IJW11@phx.cam.ac.uk) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 16:48 (21 lines)
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Subject: No subject found in mail header
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 21:21:41 GMT
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From: IJW11@phx.cam.ac.uk
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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> Color me an ignorant american, but what is the difference between a
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> U.S. and a U.K. keyboard (besides the pound symbol for currency)?
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First, thanks for replying, I wasn't sure whether this got though.
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The differences involve:
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Key '2' has a '"' when shifted;
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Key '3' Has a pound sign, nort a hash;
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The ' and " key is pound sign and '@';
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and there are some other odd keys, noticeably the fact that the
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backslash and backquote characters have moved by miles.
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I have an American keyboard, but it's twice as heavy as the
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British one that I uae, and since I go by key symbols when
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typing (professional typing, eh? 8-) it gets on my nerves.
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Ian Wells.
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[0481] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rob Soukoreff) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 16:49 (30 lines)
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Subject: gcc questions
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 16:35:30 -0500
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From: Rob Soukoreff <rwsoukor@descartes.uwaterloo.ca>
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Hello Activists!
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I am unable to compile with gcc, (on Linux 0.12, 2meg ram, 386-sx, AMI bios).
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When I type gcc filename, I get:
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gcc: installation problem, cannot exec cpp: Exec format error
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I think I just don't have the correct things in the correct places, so:
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1) Where does gcc (and accompanying files) go? /usr/gnu/bin?
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2) Where do libc.a & libreadline.a go?
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3) Where do I put the files in lib.tar.Z
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4) Where do I put the include files, include.tar?
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5) Is there anything else I need, and where should I put it?
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I appologize if these questions are FAQ, if so could someone point me
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to the FAQ?
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Thanks,
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Rob Soukoreff
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rwsoukoreff@descartes.uwaterloo.ca
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[0482] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lawrence C. Foard) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 17:12 (10 lines)
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Subject: WD card
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 16:44:24 -0500
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From: entropy@ee.WPI.EDU (Lawrence C. Foard)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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I got about 10 requests for the WD card in the minutes after posting it :)
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If I can get ahold of one I will probably try to make the first driver for it
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(this is assuming no one else has claimed sockets+TCP/IP yet). Does any one
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know the name of the company that bought the card production from WD?
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[0484] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Hetrick) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 17:20 (40 lines)
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Subject: Re: BSD sockets+TCP/IP
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 17:04:15 EST
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From: hetrick@sparky.eeel.nist.gov (Paul Hetrick)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: <9201162014.AA00798@wintermute.WPI.EDU>
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> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 15:14:19 -0500
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> From: entropy@ee.WPI.EDU (Lawrence C. Foard)
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> To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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> Subject: BSD sockets+TCP/IP
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>
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> IF YOUR WORKING ON TCP/IP OR SOCKETS READ THIS...
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>
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> It appears that no one is working on sockets or TCP/IP yet? A friend and I
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> are planning to start working on this if no one has already started work.
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> If you are working on it please please write so we don't waste our time
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> duplicating efforts.
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>
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> Questions:
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>
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> What ethernet boards would you like to see supported?
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> Currently we are planning to buy an intel board but don't have money to buy
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> other boards so would appreciate donations or loans of other manufactorers
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> cards. Any technical docs would be helpful, or source code for software
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> that uses them.
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>
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TCP/IP and Sockets are more than I have time to tackle, but I might be
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able to point you to some Code and docs. Try FTPing to zaphod.ncsa.uiuc.edu
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[141.142.20.50]. They have a PD (or at least freely distributed) telnet
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program for MS-DOS with drivers for LOTS of ethernet boards. The source
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code for all the drivers is in one BIG .zip file. If you could base your
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low-level drivers on this code it would probably make it easier to port to
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other boards.
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Hope this helps
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Paul
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hetrick@eeel.nist.gov
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[0485] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 17:30 (34 lines)
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Subject: Re: BSD sockets+TCP/IP
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 17:12:39 -0500
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From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
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To: hetrick@sparky.eeel.nist.gov
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To: entropy@ee.WPI.EDU (Lawrence C. Foard)
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: Paul Hetrick's message of Thu, 16 Jan 92 17:04:15 EST,
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Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 17:04:15 EST
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From: hetrick@sparky.eeel.nist.gov (Paul Hetrick)
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TCP/IP and Sockets are more than I have time to tackle, but I might be
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able to point you to some Code and docs. Try FTPing to zaphod.ncsa.uiuc.edu
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[141.142.20.50]. They have a PD (or at least freely distributed) telnet
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program for MS-DOS with drivers for LOTS of ethernet boards. The source
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code for all the drivers is in one BIG .zip file. If you could base your
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low-level drivers on this code it would probably make it easier to port to
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other boards.
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If this is the Clarson packet driver stuff, be aware that the code
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assumes you are running in 16 bit real mode. It may be non-trivial to
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port them so that they work in a 32-bit protected mode. You may want to
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look at them and form your own opinion.
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Whether or not you use the MS-LOSS packet drivers, it would be a very
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good idea to have a well-defined abstraction boundary between the
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Networking/IP layer and the Ethernet driver layer. Then you can publish
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the interface early on, and people can write their own drivers for their
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ethernet cards with a minimum of pain.
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Lawrence, I assume that you will be using the BSD networking release as
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a base?
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- Ted
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[0486] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ari Lemmke) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 17:37 (30 lines)
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Subject: Hmmmm...too much of a good thing? =8^)
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1992 00:26:50 +0200
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From: Ari Lemmke <arl@zen.cs.hut.fi>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: "Ken Corey, CSCI Major..."'s message of Thu, 16 Jan 1992 15:59 CDT <01GFE18S1YRK003ISR@vaxb.acs.unt.edu>
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>Is it just me, or are we ALL getting 2 copies of the mail about linux?
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It should not happen. There was only one person who had
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2 entries caused by requesting two times ;-)
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We have no 300+ Linux activists on the mailing list, and
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every day there's 20 or more requesting for joining.
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You can check the mailing list:
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'telnet niksula.hut.fi 25'
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'vrfy linux-activists'
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and to quit use ;-)
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'quit'
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I'm going to start RFD about comp.os.linux, and when
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the voting comes, I hope you do vote for it ...
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Still we are _not_ going to end this mailing list,
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because there are sites which don't have access to news.
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Also for the future we might need special hackers
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||
list .. where only Linux kernel hacking is
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discussed.
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arl
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[0487] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Randy Appleton) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 18:08 (22 lines)
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Subject: Mtools and Me
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From: Randy Appleton <randy@ms.uky.edu>
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1992 17:52:47 EST
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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I'm rather new to the Linux world, but I have been able to boot it and
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get it to recognize my hard drive. However, I'm having a bear of a
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||
time getting things onto the hard drive. Does anyone have the
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binaries for the Mtools package they can send me, or tell me where I
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can ftp the same. I'd really appricate it.
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Also, can whoever adds people to this list make sure I'm on it. I
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sent in a subscription request, but havenn' heard back. Nor did my
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mail bounce.
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-Thanks
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-Randy
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--
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==============================================================================
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Is it fair to the young people of today that we keep raising the
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national debt? Vote against George Bush!
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============================================Randy@ms.uky.edu==================
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[0488] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Linus Benedict Torvalds) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 18:47 (42 lines)
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Subject: Re: gcc questions
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1992 01:22:52 +0200
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From: Linus Benedict Torvalds <torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi>
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In-Reply-To: Rob Soukoreff's message as of Jan 16, 16:35
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To: Rob Soukoreff <rwsoukor@descartes.uwaterloo.ca>,
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Rob Soukoreff: "gcc questions" (Jan 16, 16:35):
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>
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> I am unable to compile with gcc, (on Linux 0.12, 2meg ram, 386-sx, AMI bios).
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Ok, this comes up every once in a while, and I agree a FAQ would be a
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good idea. We had one, but it got out-of-date even before it was ready:
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linux has evolved rather quickly. Just as a pointer, there are
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linux-activists mail collected at tsx-11 (or was some time ago), and
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people new on the list might want to know what the problems of
|
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yesterweek have been.
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Gcc can install in several directories, but the following is what I use:
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from gccbin.tar:
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/usr/local/bin - gcc
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/usr/local/lib - all the other stuff
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/usr/local/bin needs to be in the path (as an aside: bash-1.11 has a bug
|
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which results in an abort() if your path ends in a colon, and you try to
|
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execute something that doesn't exists: eg xyzzy).
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include.tar.Z should untar to the /usr/include -directory tree if you
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untar it in the root directory. Check with "tar tf include.tar".
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lib.tar.Z doesn't need to go in any special place: I have a source tree
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under /usr/src, and I put it under that. You don't need this file unless
|
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you want to recompile the library.
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Additionally, I've linked (use symbolic links if you wish, testing out
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new features) gcc to just 'cc', as that means I sometimes don't have to
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change the makefiles at all. Likewise, gcc-ld, gcc-as, gcc-ar can with
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success be linked to the files 'gld', 'gas' and 'gar', somewhere on the
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path. I have all the /usr/local/lib/gcc-XX files linked both to
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/usr/local/bin/XX and /usr/local/bin/gXX.
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Linus
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--[0488]--
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[0490] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (klaus@ced.utah.edu) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 19:26 (11 lines)
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Subject: debugger for linux?
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 17:05:25 MST
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||
From: klaus@ced.utah.edu
|
||
To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
|
||
X-Envelope-To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
|
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|
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Is there any kind of debugger for linux? SOmething like gdb would be nice.
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Is there such a beast.. yet?
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-klaus@ced.utah.edu
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--[0490]--
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[0491] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Rubin) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 19:57 (16 lines)
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Subject: Re: BSD sockets+TCP/IP
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 16:46:58 -0800
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From: Paul Rubin <phr@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
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To: hetrick@sparky.eeel.nist.gov, linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
|
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|
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There are at least a couple of free implementations of TCP/IP,
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though I don't know about sockets. One was written by Russ Nelson
|
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and is GNU-copylefted, but I don't know what functionality it
|
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includes. I believe it is ftpable from grape.soe.clarkson.edu.
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The other was written by Phil Karn KA9Q and includes pretty
|
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much everything, but I'm not sure of the exact distribution
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permissions. It's called the KA9Q TCP package. I'm not sure
|
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where to ftp a copy but "archie" should be able to find it,
|
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or I could ask someone. Having no network hardware I haven't
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really looked into either of these. I believe there was also
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a free package written at MIT that was the basis for FTP Software's
|
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implementation but I don't know more details.
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--[0491]--
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[0492] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter Cooper) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 20:13 (8 lines)
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Subject: Re: VI for Linux
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1992 09:58:36 +0900
|
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From: comrade@uniwa.uwa.oz.au (Peter Cooper)
|
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To: cullip@cs.unc.edu, linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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I have a compiled version of elvis. It took virtually nothing to compile
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it if I remember rightly (no patches). I will upload it to nic.funet.fi
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and tsx-11.mit.edu in a few hours.
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--[0492]--
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[0493] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter MacDonald) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 20:24 (12 lines)
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Subject: Re: VI for Linux
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 17:13:34 PST
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From: pmacdona@sanjuan.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
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To: comrade@uniwa.uwa.oz.au
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Elvis has some problems, including failure to keep the screen representation
|
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accurate (extra, missing and duplicated lines) and no line wrap.
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I know, cause I have been using it for several years. If something out
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there does a better job, lets see it instead.
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Ps. I am currently using it under linux as well.
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--[0493]--
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[0494] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tad Hunt) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 20:31 (9 lines)
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Subject: Device numbers
|
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From: hunt@cthulhu.control.com (Tad Hunt)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 20:12:01 EST
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Can anyone tell me the device numbers for /dev/hd3 and /dev/hd4?
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The docs only seem to mention hd1 and hd2 and I'm having trouble
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figuring out the minor device numbers. I want to use /dev/hd3 as root
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and /dev/hd4 as swap. Thanks in advance.
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--[0494]--
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[0495] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Adam Goldberg) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 21:31 (29 lines)
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Subject: Booting problems...
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 20:15:44 CST
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From: Adam Goldberg <goldberg@iastate.edu>
|
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I can't get Linux 0.12 to boot:
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|
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Here's my equipment:
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386DX-25, 4M, AMI BIOS (dated '89), Hercules Mono.
|
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105M Priam RLL drive, which has >1024 cylinders, hence I have a DTC 7287
|
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controller, which maps the harddrive to having 32 sectors/track.
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Here's the problem:
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I boot & get the Loading..., then '*MDA' goes in the upper-right corner
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of the screen, then '2 Virtual Consoles' & '4 pty's' then (argh)
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'Kernel Panic: HD Controller not ready'.
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Sometimes I don't get past the Loading..., sometimes I get to the
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panic.
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Any clues?
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+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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! Adam Goldberg ! "It's simple! Even a PASCAL programmer could do !
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! goldberg@iastate.edu ! it!" !
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! tabu6@isuvax.BITNET ! "Remember: the sooner you fall behind, the !
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! #include <disclaimer> ! more time you have to catch up!" !
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+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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[0496] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael K. Johnson) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 21:37 (12 lines)
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Subject: FIFO's
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 20:19:32 CST
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From: johnsonm@stolaf.edu (Michael K. Johnson)
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
|
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Is anyone working on FIFO's? if not I might try them next month or
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so. Anyone with any advice on this, please mail me.
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michaelkjohnson
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johnsonm@stolaf.edu
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I don't do .sig's
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ha. got it right this time.:-)
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[0497] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael K. Johnson) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 21:40 (33 lines)
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Subject: DTC SCSI
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 20:18:01 CST
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From: johnsonm@stolaf.edu (Michael K. Johnson)
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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DTC (division of qume) is sending me chip specs so that I can write
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a low-level SCSI driver for the DTC3180A/DTC3280A pair of cards. I
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don't know what other DTC cards it will work on, but I should find
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out when the docs come. When I do know, I will post.
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A word of warning -- There is a miniscule but non-zero chance that
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some people will have to upgrade their driver BIOS to use such a driver.
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if and only if this turns out to be true, I will contact DTC and
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get the necessary information for upgrading.
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When I do this, I will need beta-testers, because all I have is a
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very brain-dead ST296N that responds to almost no SCSI commands. I
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will need someone with an advanced SCSI drive ti check to see if it
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passes SCSI commands correctly.
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If you wish to beta this (due to my busy student status, I make no
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guarantees about time frames) please send me a note, and I will
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keep your address. Bear in mind if you do this that it may be
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awhile before I even get the specs, let alone start coding the
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driver, and that is dependant on the high-level drivers coming
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out....
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happy linuxing...
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michaelkjohnson
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johnsonm@stolaf.edu
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I don't do .sig;s
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' oops.
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[0499] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael K. Johnson) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 22:11 (33 lines)
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Subject: DTC SCSI
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 20:18:01 CST
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From: johnsonm@stolaf.edu (Michael K. Johnson)
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To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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DTC (division of qume) is sending me chip specs so that I can write
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a low-level SCSI driver for the DTC3180A/DTC3280A pair of cards. I
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don't know what other DTC cards it will work on, but I should find
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out when the docs come. When I do know, I will post.
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A word of warning -- There is a miniscule but non-zero chance that
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some people will have to upgrade their driver BIOS to use such a driver.
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if and only if this turns out to be true, I will contact DTC and
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get the necessary information for upgrading.
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When I do this, I will need beta-testers, because all I have is a
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very brain-dead ST296N that responds to almost no SCSI commands. I
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will need someone with an advanced SCSI drive ti check to see if it
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passes SCSI commands correctly.
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If you wish to beta this (due to my busy student status, I make no
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guarantees about time frames) please send me a note, and I will
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keep your address. Bear in mind if you do this that it may be
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awhile before I even get the specs, let alone start coding the
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driver, and that is dependant on the high-level drivers coming
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out....
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happy linuxing...
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michaelkjohnson
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johnsonm@stolaf.edu
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I don't do .sig;s
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' oops.
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[0500] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 22:14 (28 lines)
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Subject: Re: VI for Linux
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 16 Jan 92 21:08:17 +0600.
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 20:02:59 MST
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From: drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU
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If people on the mailing list is enough patient I'll post my
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porting of Berkeley Vi 3.0 ( I don't know if I'm going against
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any copyright ... if some one knows plese tell me ! )
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It worked well with Linux 0.11, I don't see why it shouldn't with
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0.12.
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I just need some time, a week, since I destroyed my HD and I'm waiting
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for a brand new :-(
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Ciao.
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---------
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elvis, compiled with the SYSV options works fine, also can emulate ex,
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and has other neato faetures like scrolling left to right instead of
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wrapping lines, and allowing the cursor controls to remain functional
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when in edit mode.....
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I've got binaries if people are interested - I just couldn't live
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without my vi!!
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[0501] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Morgan Schweers) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 23:07 (12 lines)
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Subject: GNU Emacs?
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 19:50:13 PST
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From: mrs@netcom.netcom.com (Morgan Schweers)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Greetings,
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O-o-o-kay, I just found the 'Emacs' patches on tsx-11.mit.edu, and I'd
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like to know if these are 1) for .12, and 2) for GNU Emacs. If so, I'll
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be spending a bunch of time compiling tonight... *grin*
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Suggestions?
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-- Morgan Schweers
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[0503] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Almond) Linux_Activists 01/16/92 23:27 (23 lines)
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Subject: DOS emulator
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From: mra@searchtech.com (Michael Almond)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 23:11:55 EST
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Has anyone considered creating a DOS emulator for linux? I have heard
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the the GNU hurd folks had expiremented with this with reported success,
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but I don't remeber ever seeing any details of how they did it.
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Does anyone see how the current design of linux might prevent creating
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and emulator?
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I'm not sure what all would need to be done in order to create an
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emulator. Anyone have any pointers?
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Thanks.
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--
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Michael R. Almond (Georgia Tech Alumnus) mra@srchtec.uucp (registered)
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digital presence associates mra@searchtech.com
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1017J oak chase drive uupsi!srchtec!mra
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tucker, georgia 30084 (404) 491-0036 (office/home)
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*** League for Programming Freedeom member / GNU supporter ***
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[0504] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter MacDonald) Linux_Activists 01/17/92 03:19 (37 lines)
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Subject: ps, and some vc junk.
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 92 00:04:08 PST
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From: pmacdona@sanjuan.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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I have all of the features of VC working again, including
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screen blanking, screen dumping and using memory buffers so
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more consoles than your single page of video memory will allow
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can be used. These buffers use kernel memory, but would have
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been required when a windowing system comes along anyways.
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The unpleasant juddering of the screen when scrolling is also
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eliminated. Does anyone else see this or is it just me?
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Also, terminal reset is fixed. It wasn't resetting back from
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graphics char mode. Finally, I got rid of the check in
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setterm.c for the terminal type. But since setterm wasn't
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distributed with .12, it won't affect to many people.
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I will probably not release it for a few more days, so I can
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test it some more, and figure out whats going on with
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vt100 graphics chars, but if you are desperate to alpha test,
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drop me a note. The patches are not too extensive, and the
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main goal was to disturb .12 as little as possible.
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I have also written a poor persons version of ps. Actually,
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it is more like a skeleton. But it correctly gets info from
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the kernel, and runs as a standalone program rather than being.
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driven by function keys.
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However, it should be made to look more like what
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people are used to. If someone wants to volunteer to take
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it and extend it to have all the nice options, let me know.
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I think ps is one of those very system specific functions that
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we can not pull in from GNU. But, if you have an idea of
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what it should be modelled after (Sun?) speak up now.
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I am announcing all this so hopefully, duplication is avoided.
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[0505] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (tthorn@daimi.aau.dk) Linux_Activists 01/17/92 03:20 (19 lines)
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Subject: Adaptec SCSI driver work is underway, yes..
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 92 07:59:38 +0100
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From: tthorn@daimi.aau.dk
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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(I'm double copies of many, but not all mails also.)
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I'm working on a lowlevel driver for the Adaptech-1542.
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I've just read my first sector:-) I'm planning to base
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it on drew (drew@hazelrah.cs.Colorado.EDU)'s highlevel
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stuff.
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I'm in as much need for the driver as any, since without
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it I'm only running floppies:-<
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/Tommy
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Tommy Thorn email: tthorn@daimi.aau.dk
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Computer Science Department "People shouldn't work because they love it,
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Aarhus University they should work because it hurts."
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DENMARK -- Bob Sparacino, former Xerox executive
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[0506] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (gaia@leland.Stanford.EDU) Linux_Activists 01/17/92 03:43 (169 lines)
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Subject: US extended keyboard
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 23:40:21 PST
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From: gaia@leland.Stanford.EDU
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Greetings,
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The following is a patch to kernel/chr_drv/keyboard.S to switch the
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infamous keys of a US extended keyboard:
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ESC <-> [`~]
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Ctrl <-> Capslock
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-Alfred
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*** keyboard.old Thu Jan 16 12:28:26 1992
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--- keyboard.S Thu Jan 16 12:15:09 1992
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***************
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*** 304,316 ****
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#elif defined(KBD_US)
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key_map:
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! .byte 0,27
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.ascii "1234567890-="
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.byte 127,9
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.ascii "qwertyuiop[]"
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.byte 13,0
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.ascii "asdfghjkl;'"
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! .byte '`,0
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.ascii "\\zxcvbnm,./"
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.byte 0,'*,0,32 /* 36-39 */
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.fill 16,1,0 /* 3A-49 */
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--- 304,324 ----
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#elif defined(KBD_US)
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key_map:
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! #ifdef EXTENDED_KEYBOARD
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! .byte 0,'`
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! #else
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! .byte 0,27
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! #endif
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.ascii "1234567890-="
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.byte 127,9
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.ascii "qwertyuiop[]"
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.byte 13,0
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.ascii "asdfghjkl;'"
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! #ifdef EXTENDED_KEYBOARD
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! .byte 27,0
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! #else
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! .byte '`,0
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! #endif
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.ascii "\\zxcvbnm,./"
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.byte 0,'*,0,32 /* 36-39 */
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.fill 16,1,0 /* 3A-49 */
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***************
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*** 321,333 ****
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shift_map:
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! .byte 0,27
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.ascii "!@#$%^&*()_+"
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.byte 127,9
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.ascii "QWERTYUIOP{}"
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.byte 13,0
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.ascii "ASDFGHJKL:\""
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! .byte '~,0
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.ascii "|ZXCVBNM<>?"
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.byte 0,'*,0,32 /* 36-39 */
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.fill 16,1,0 /* 3A-49 */
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--- 329,349 ----
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shift_map:
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! #ifdef EXTENDED_KEYBOARD
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! .byte 0,'~
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! #else
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! .byte 0,27
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! #endif
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.ascii "!@#$%^&*()_+"
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.byte 127,9
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.ascii "QWERTYUIOP{}"
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.byte 13,0
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.ascii "ASDFGHJKL:\""
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! #ifdef EXTENDED_KEYBOARD
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! .byte 27,0
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! #else
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! .byte '~,0
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! #endif
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.ascii "|ZXCVBNM<>?"
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.byte 0,'*,0,32 /* 36-39 */
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.fill 16,1,0 /* 3A-49 */
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***************
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*** 518,531 ****
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.long do_self,do_self,do_self,do_self /* 10-13 q w e r */
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.long do_self,do_self,do_self,do_self /* 14-17 t y u i */
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.long do_self,do_self,do_self,do_self /* 18-1B o p } ^ */
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! .long do_self,ctrl,do_self,do_self /* 1C-1F enter ctrl a s */
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.long do_self,do_self,do_self,do_self /* 20-23 d f g h */
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.long do_self,do_self,do_self,do_self /* 24-27 j k l | */
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.long do_self,do_self,lshift,do_self /* 28-2B { para lshift , */
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.long do_self,do_self,do_self,do_self /* 2C-2F z x c v */
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.long do_self,do_self,do_self,do_self /* 30-33 b n m , */
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.long do_self,minus,rshift,do_self /* 34-37 . - rshift * */
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! .long alt,do_self,caps,func /* 38-3B alt sp caps f1 */
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.long func,func,func,func /* 3C-3F f2 f3 f4 f5 */
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.long func,func,func,func /* 40-43 f6 f7 f8 f9 */
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.long func,num,scroll,cursor /* 44-47 f10 num scr home */
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--- 534,555 ----
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.long do_self,do_self,do_self,do_self /* 10-13 q w e r */
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.long do_self,do_self,do_self,do_self /* 14-17 t y u i */
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.long do_self,do_self,do_self,do_self /* 18-1B o p } ^ */
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! #ifdef EXTENDED_KEYBOARD
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! .long do_self,caps,do_self, do_self /* 1C-1F enter ctrl a s */
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! #else
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! .long do_self,ctrl,do_self,do_self /* 1C-1F enter ctrl a s */
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! #endif
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.long do_self,do_self,do_self,do_self /* 20-23 d f g h */
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.long do_self,do_self,do_self,do_self /* 24-27 j k l | */
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.long do_self,do_self,lshift,do_self /* 28-2B { para lshift , */
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.long do_self,do_self,do_self,do_self /* 2C-2F z x c v */
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.long do_self,do_self,do_self,do_self /* 30-33 b n m , */
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.long do_self,minus,rshift,do_self /* 34-37 . - rshift * */
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! #ifdef EXTENDED_KEYBOARD
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! .long alt,do_self,ctrl,func /* 38-3B alt sp caps f1 */
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! #else
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! .long alt,do_self,caps,func /* 38-3B alt sp caps f1 */
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! #endif
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.long func,func,func,func /* 3C-3F f2 f3 f4 f5 */
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.long func,func,func,func /* 40-43 f6 f7 f8 f9 */
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.long func,num,scroll,cursor /* 44-47 f10 num scr home */
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***************
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*** 550,563 ****
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.long none,none,none,none /* 90-93 br br br br */
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.long none,none,none,none /* 94-97 br br br br */
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.long none,none,none,none /* 98-9B br br br br */
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! .long none,unctrl,none,none /* 9C-9F br unctrl br br */
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.long none,none,none,none /* A0-A3 br br br br */
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.long none,none,none,none /* A4-A7 br br br br */
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.long none,none,unlshift,none /* A8-AB br br unlshift br */
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.long none,none,none,none /* AC-AF br br br br */
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.long none,none,none,none /* B0-B3 br br br br */
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.long none,none,unrshift,none /* B4-B7 br br unrshift br */
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! .long unalt,none,uncaps,none /* B8-BB unalt br uncaps br */
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.long none,none,none,none /* BC-BF br br br br */
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.long none,none,none,none /* C0-C3 br br br br */
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.long none,none,none,none /* C4-C7 br br br br */
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--- 574,595 ----
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.long none,none,none,none /* 90-93 br br br br */
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.long none,none,none,none /* 94-97 br br br br */
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.long none,none,none,none /* 98-9B br br br br */
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! #ifdef EXTENDED_KEYBOARD
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! .long none,uncaps,none,none /* 9C-9F br unctrl br br */
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! #else
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! .long none,unctrl,none,none /* 9C-9F br unctrl br br */
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! #endif
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.long none,none,none,none /* A0-A3 br br br br */
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.long none,none,none,none /* A4-A7 br br br br */
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.long none,none,unlshift,none /* A8-AB br br unlshift br */
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.long none,none,none,none /* AC-AF br br br br */
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.long none,none,none,none /* B0-B3 br br br br */
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.long none,none,unrshift,none /* B4-B7 br br unrshift br */
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! #ifdef EXTENDED_KEYBOARD
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! .long unalt,none,unctrl,none /* B8-BB unalt br uncaps br */
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! #else
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! .long unalt,none,uncaps,none /* B8-BB unalt br uncaps br */
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! #endif
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.long none,none,none,none /* BC-BF br br br br */
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.long none,none,none,none /* C0-C3 br br br br */
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.long none,none,none,none /* C4-C7 br br br br */
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--[0506]--
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[0507] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lawrence C. Foard) Linux_Activists 01/17/92 03:48 (12 lines)
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Subject: mga trouble
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 92 01:48:36 -0500
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From: entropy@ee.WPI.EDU (Lawrence C. Foard)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Has anyone else had trouble with virtual consoles on monocrome cards? I
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downloaded the new version and it worked fine on a system with CGA or EGA but
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doesn't work on my monocrome system. When you try to change to another console
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the cursor goes away but the screen doesn't change, also typed input goes
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someplace else (I assume to the other console). Playing with this for a while
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made the system spontaneosly reboot.
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I'm not sure if this is a software problem or just incompatible hardware.
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--[0507]--
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[0508] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brett McCoy) Linux_Activists 01/17/92 05:05 (32 lines)
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Subject: trying to free free page errors
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 92 02:55:19 CST
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From: brtmac@maverick.ksu.ksu.edu (Brett McCoy)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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I just got linux-0.12 up and running on a machine here at work tonight.
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Works great except for one problem, I keep getting these kernel panic's
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and messages that say 'trying to free free page'. I don't have any of
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the other information that it printed out right now but if anyone would
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like it I'm sure I can get it without much problem and send it to them.
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I have a sneaking suspicion that the particular hardware setup I have is
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partially the cause for the crashes: 20Mhz 386sx, 85M 3.5 drive with a
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15M partition for root and a 6M partition for swap, VGA (although the
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VC stuff doesn't recognize any of the VGA text modes, EGA 80x24 only :( )
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and 1 (that's right folks, ONE) Meg of memory. I have a feeling that the
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amount of paging and swapping that it is having to do is overworking some
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portion of the kernel and is exercising a bug pretty rigirously, but hey,
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what better test?
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I am amazed at how well it runs even with only 1M of physical memory. Now
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for a question, is there any way I can decrease the default number of disk
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buffers from 405 to something more reasonable like 100 or 200 so that there
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is a bit more free memory for programs (380k or so is a little tight). I
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can deal with a little bit decreased disk I/O performance due to the increase
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in buffer cache misses.
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Well, that's in for now folks.
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--
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Brett McCoy Computing and Network Services
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brtmac@maverick.ksu.ksu.edu Kansas State University
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If the minimum wasn't good enough it would't be the minimum.
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--[0508]--
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[0509] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (meajjk@Skferc.NL) Linux_Activists 01/17/92 06:38 (33 lines)
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Subject: No subject found in mail header
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From: meajjk@Skferc.NL
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 92 08:42:41 +0100
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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Lawrence C. Foard wrote:
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>IF YOUR WORKING ON TCP/IP OR SOCKETS READ THIS...
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>It appears that no one is working on sockets or TCP/IP yet? A friend and I are
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>planning to start working on this if no one has already started work.
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>If you are working on it please please write so we don't waste our time
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>duplicating efforts.
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I am not working on it, in fact i haven't managed to get Linux running yet. But
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i will need something like sockets to get X running.
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>Questions:
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>What ethernet boards would you like to see supported?
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>Currently we are planning to buy an intel board but don't have money to buy
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>other boards so would appreciate donations or loans of other manufactorers
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>cards. Any technical docs would be helpful, or source code for software that
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>uses them.
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The WD8003E from Western Digital would be nice to start with because it cheap
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(about $200). The source of a device driver should be somewhere on the
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sun.soe.clarkson.edu site and i think i also have it somewhere.
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Jan Jitze Krol
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PS. Are there any brave guys out there who want to help porting X-Windows to
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Linux? I think it is a bit big for one person to do it. (X11R4 is about
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150Mb and X11R5 i even don't dare thinking about). But first i want to
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figure out what i needed for this port.
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[0510] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Simon Marlow) Linux_Activists 01/17/92 06:55 (27 lines)
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Subject: Strange GCC error
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1992 11:13:27 +0000
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From: Simon Marlow <simonm@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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I got this really wierd error from GCC yesterday while trying to
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compile the GNU textutils package v1.1 (I know its already been done
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but I don't trust anything unless I've compiled it myself). The
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particular error occurred when compiling the file lib/regex.c using
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the command
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gcc -O -I. -I../lib -DSTDC_HEADERS -DPOSIX -DUSG -c regex.c (I think)
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the error was something like 'unrecognised insn at line 5285'
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followed by a short listing of GCC intermediate code which I havn't
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written down. It only occurred when optimization was turned on.
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I believe the problem is caused by the include file 'string.h' which
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defines all the string operations as inline assembly code (as the
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error only happened when this file was included) and in particular
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the 'strlen' function (as this is at line 5285 in the source).
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Unfortunately I was unable to repeat the error on a smaller test
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file but the error was completely repeatable on the regex.c file.
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Is this a bug in GCC? Can anyone help?
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Simon.
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[0511] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Kent Williams) Linux_Activists 01/17/92 07:54 (18 lines)
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Subject: Re: BSD sockets+TCP/IP
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 92 06:43:01 -0600
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From: williams@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Kent Williams)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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> [141.142.20.50]. They have a PD (or at least freely distributed) telnet
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> program for MS-DOS with drivers for LOTS of ethernet boards. The source
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>
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>If this is the Clarson packet driver stuff, be aware that the code
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>assumes you are running in 16 bit real mode. It may be non-trivial to
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>port them so that they work in a 32-bit protected mode. You may want to
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>look at them and form your own opinion.
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>
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What you need to know about an ethernet card IS contained in a packet driver;
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which is, after all, fairly low level. You need to know what port to
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stuff commands in, how to set up interrupts, where to get data out of it,
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and not much more. Most of the stuff will be congruent -- in fact, if
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linux provides any support for setting up interrupts and DMA transfers, the
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drivers will be simpler than the clarkson drivers.
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[0512] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Prof.Dr.Ir. Stolk (Brammie)) Linux_Activists 01/17/92 08:50 (21 lines)
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Subject: Re: X11
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 92 14:36:43 +0100
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From: stolk@fwi.uva.nl (Prof.Dr.Ir. Stolk (Brammie))
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi, meajjk@Skferc.NL
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Hi,
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About X11: Try ftping to 131.159.8.35
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It features an 386 port of X11.
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The neat thing about it: it takes only 18MB, and features
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some SVGA cards.
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The stuff runs using SCO UNIX... the big question: will Linux
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do as well?
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About the binaries: let's get some more of them :-)
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Surely binaries of vi and the like are sheer nescesities.
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My attempt to compile elvis failed, but that was probably
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due to using old include files.
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Long live Linux,
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Bram Stolk
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[0513] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Simon Marlow) Linux_Activists 01/17/92 08:59 (27 lines)
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Subject: Strange GCC error
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1992 13:29:00 +0000
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From: Simon Marlow <simonm@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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I got this really wierd error from GCC yesterday while trying to
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compile the GNU textutils package v1.1 (I know its already been done
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but I don't trust anything unless I've compiled it myself). The
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particular error occurred when compiling the file lib/regex.c using
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the command
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gcc -O -I. -I../lib -DSTDC_HEADERS -DPOSIX -DUSG -c regex.c (I think)
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the error was something like 'unrecognised insn at line 5285'
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followed by a short listing of GCC intermediate code which I havn't
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written down. It only occurred when optimization was turned on.
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I believe the problem is caused by the include file 'string.h' which
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defines all the string operations as inline assembly code (as the
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error only happened when this file was included) and in particular
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the 'strlen' function (as this is at line 5285 in the source).
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Unfortunately I was unable to repeat the error on a smaller test
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file but the error was completely repeatable on the regex.c file.
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Is this a bug in GCC? Can anyone help?
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Simon.
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[0514] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alan B Clegg) Linux_Activists 01/17/92 09:16 (18 lines)
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Subject: Re: your mail
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To: meajjk@Skferc.nl
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 92 9:01:34 EST
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: <9201170742.AA04804@ercx39.Skferc.NL>; from "meajjk@Skferc.nl" at Jan 17, 92 8:42 am
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From: Alan B Clegg <abc@concert.net>
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> The WD8003E from Western Digital would be nice to start with because it cheap
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> (about $200). The source of a device driver should be somewhere on the
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> sun.soe.clarkson.edu site and i think i also have it somewhere.
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I have three of these boards that I am willing to let go for $120 each. Please
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let me know if you are interested. They are still in their original boxes with
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original documentation, etc...
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-abc
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--
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abc@concert.net Alan Clegg - Network Programmer
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MCNC -- Center for Communications
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[0515] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robert Duncan) Linux_Activists 01/17/92 11:01 (11 lines)
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Subject: mga trouble
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 92 10:33:42 EST
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From: duncan@erim.org (Robert Duncan)
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To: entropy@ee.WPI.EDU
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In-Reply-To: Lawrence C. Foard's message of Fri, 17 Jan 92 01:48:36 -0500 <9201170648.AA02616@wintermute.WPI.EDU>
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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I've had the same problem with a hercules compatible monochrome
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system. Probably Linus doesn't have a monochrome system to test
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the code on.
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-Rob Duncan
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[0516] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jay Maynard) Linux_Activists 01/17/92 11:10 (21 lines)
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Subject: Re: BSD sockets+TCP/IP
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 92 09:26 CST
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To: Paul Rubin <phr@OCF.BERKELEY.EDU>
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From: Jay Maynard <S0JM@ADMIN.HSC.UTH.TMC.EDU>
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Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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(Paul Rubin, about existing TCP/IP packages:)
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> The other was written by Phil Karn KA9Q and includes pretty
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> much everything, but I'm not sure of the exact distribution
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> permissions. It's called the KA9Q TCP package.
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The KA9Q NOS TCP/IP package is available in several flavors for anonymous
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FTP from ucsd.edu; look in the hamradio/tcpip/nos directory. It is licensed
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for amateur and non-profit educational use.
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NOS is probably going to be a lot of work to port to a native Linux
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environment, as it is a monolithic program with its own built-in
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multitasker and user support system...some work has been done in that area,
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but it's a pain. Different folks' efforts can be found on ucsd.edu as well.
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...Jay Maynard
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[0517] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Engel) Linux_Activists 01/17/92 11:12 (19 lines)
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Subject: Re: debugger for linux?
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From: David Engel <david@istwok.ods.com>
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To: klaus@ced.utah.edu
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 92 9:17:11 CST
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Cc: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: <9201170005.AA10496@ced.utah.edu>; from "klaus@ced.utah.edu" at Jan 16, 92 5:05 pm
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> Is there any kind of debugger for linux? SOmething like gdb would be nice.
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> Is there such a beast.. yet?
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I'm looking into it. I suspect implementing the ptrace system call will be
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the hardest part. If anyone with kernel experience (any would be more than
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me :-) wants to tackle ptrace, let me know and I'll concentrate on compiling
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gdb. Also, does anybody with access to gcc 2 know of any changes from 1.4
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that might affect porting gdb 4.3 to Linux?
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BTW, does anyone know how to patch the keyboard driver to increase the repeat
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rate? I like a fast keyboard and the default repeat rate is driving me nuts.
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David
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--[0517]--
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[0518] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gautam H Thaker) Linux_Activists 01/17/92 11:14 (15 lines)
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Subject: Please remove me. TOo much mail traffic.
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 92 11:04:26 EST
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From: Gautam H Thaker <gthaker@ANDREW.dnet.ge.com>
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X-To: aitgw::Linux-Activists@niksula.hut.fi
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To: LINUX-ACTIVISTS@joker.cs.hut.fi
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|
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I can't keep up. Please remove me.
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Thanks
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Gautam H. Thaker
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Internet: gthaker@atl.ge.com ("reply" won't work).
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GE DECNET: atl::gthaker Dialcom 8*777-6412
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GE Adv. Tech. Lab. 609-866-6412 (office)
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Route 38, Bldg 145-2 609-866-6397 (fax)
|
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Moorestown, NJ 08057 609-767-4396 (home)
|
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[0519] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gautam H Thaker) Linux_Activists 01/17/92 11:29 (15 lines)
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Subject: Please remove me. TOo much mail traffic.
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1992 11:01:04 -0500
|
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From: Gautam H Thaker <gthaker@ANDREW.dnet.ge.com>
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X-To: advax::Linux-Activists@niksula.hut.fi
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To: LINUX-ACTIVISTS@joker.cs.hut.fi
|
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|
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I can't keep up. Please remove me.
|
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Thanks
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Gautam H. Thaker
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Internet: gthaker@atl.ge.com ("reply" won't work).
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GE DECNET: atl::gthaker Dialcom 8*777-6412
|
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GE Adv. Tech. Lab. 609-866-6412 (office)
|
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Route 38, Bldg 145-2 609-866-6397 (fax)
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Moorestown, NJ 08057 609-767-4396 (home)
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[0520] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) Linux_Activists 01/17/92 11:49 (89 lines)
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Subject: We really need a FAQ!
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 92 11:34:50 -0500
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From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
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To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
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In-Reply-To: Lawrence C. Foard's message of Fri, 17 Jan 92 01:48:36 -0500,
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Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
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Hmm.... I think we really need a FAQ soon..... a lot of new people have
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joined the mailing list and they're posting questions which have already
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been discussed on this mailing list. Which is fine, since they don't
|
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know that, but it may be frustrating to people who are already on the
|
||
list. Is someone willing to volunteer putting together a FAQ and
|
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posting it every month or so, along with diff's of the previous month's
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FAQ sheet?
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To all you newcomers --- Welcome! If you have the time, you may wish to
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look at the mailing list archives, which can be found on TSX-11.MIT.EDU.
|
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It's in ~ftp/pub/linux/mail-archives, and I have archived everything on
|
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the Linux-Activsts mailing list since November, 1991 (during the time of
|
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Linux 0.10). You may find that many of your questions are ones which
|
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have already been answered.
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 92 01:48:36 -0500
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From: entropy@ee.WPI.EDU (Lawrence C. Foard)
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Has anyone else had trouble with virtual consoles on monocrome cards? I
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downloaded the new version and it worked fine on a system with CGA or
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EGA but doesn't work on my monocrome system.
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The version of virtual consoles included with Linux 0.12 does indeed not
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work with MGA cards. This is because it attempts to use the CGA video
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memory. I believe Peter MacDonalnd (pmacdona@sanjuan.uvic.ca), who
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wrote the original VC code, has patches to change the VC code back to
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using buffer memory instead of video memory.
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1992 11:13:27 +0000
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From: Simon Marlow <simonm@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>
|
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|
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I got this really wierd error from GCC yesterday while trying to
|
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compile the GNU textutils package v1.1 (I know its already been done
|
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but I don't trust anything unless I've compiled it myself).....
|
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the error was something like 'unrecognised insn at line 5285'
|
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followed by a short listing of GCC intermediate code which I havn't
|
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written down. It only occurred when optimization was turned on.
|
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|
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It's a bug in the machine description file included with the distributed
|
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binary of GCC. Linus added some instruction patters so that it could
|
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take advantage of the string instructions, and they didn't work out
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completely right. The way to fix it (for now) is to just compile that
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module without optimization (-O). When a new version of GCC binary is
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posted, hopefully the MD file can be made smart enough so that these
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errors won't happen.
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From: meajjk@Skferc.NL
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 92 08:42:41 +0100
|
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|
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PS. Are there any brave guys out there who want to help porting X-Windows to
|
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Linux? I think it is a bit big for one person to do it. (X11R4 is about
|
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150Mb and X11R5 i even don't dare thinking about). But first i want to
|
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figure out what i needed for this port.
|
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 92 14:36:43 +0100
|
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From: stolk@fwi.uva.nl (Prof.Dr.Ir. Stolk (Brammie))
|
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|
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About X11: Try ftping to 131.159.8.35
|
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It features an 386 port of X11.
|
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The neat thing about it: it takes only 18MB, and features
|
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some SVGA cards.
|
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The stuff runs using SCO UNIX... the big question: will Linux
|
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do as well?
|
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|
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What you've pointed out is the 386 server which is included in X11R5.
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It will probably be quite useful in bringing X to Linux, but first we
|
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need to get minor little details like BSD Networking and Sockets to
|
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Linux... A previous message sent out to mailing list (look in the
|
||
archives) discussed other kernel features which would be nice to have in
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conjuction with X.
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|
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About the binaries: let's get some more of them :-)
|
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Surely binaries of vi and the like are sheer nescesities.
|
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My attempt to compile elvis failed, but that was probably
|
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due to using old include files.
|
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|
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Look at the "binaries" directory of the FTP sites; there's quite a bit
|
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of stuff ported already, including elvis. The program "em" which is
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available on in the utils.tar.Z file is a micro-gnuemacs, which may be
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quite useful to many people.
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- Ted
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