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Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #200
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From: Digestifier <Linux-Activists-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
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To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 93 17:13:16 EDT
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Linux-Activists Digest #200, Volume #6 Fri, 3 Sep 93 17:13:16 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: Slackware installation Q? (Chris Cannon)
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Problems with NET-2 and pl12
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Re: Linux and Tcsh: Soooo Funny!! (A Joke) (Otmar Lendl)
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Linux and OS/2 2.1 Boot Manager Co-existence. How? (Chuck Wegrzyn)
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xvt (Bob Willard)
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xvt (Bob Willard)
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video cards (Peter P Chiu)
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Will Linux run MSDOS applications (which use DMA/interrupts)? (Stan A. McClellan)
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NeXTStep & Linux (Ullrich Martini)
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xvt (Bob Willard)
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What is QIC02? Mountain Mach 2? (Eric Kimminau)
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Re: how do you uncompress zImage ? (Theodore Ts'o)
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Re: [HELP-please] Kernel panic/swapper more info (Theodore Ts'o)
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Re: OS/2 2.1 Boot mMgr and Linux (Mike Mills)
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Re: xvt (Thomas Pfau)
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Re: BSD UNIX (Michael L. VanLoon)
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Re: dosemu won't work (Derek Bischoff)
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Re: eth0: Receiver overrun (Derek Bischoff)
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X386 mice and restart (Derek Bischoff)
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From: cannon@mksol.dseg.ti.com (Chris Cannon)
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Subject: Re: Slackware installation Q?
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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 14:37:38 GMT
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Ken Geis (bogart@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU) wrote:
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: So, I understand that the Slackware release comes on 3.5" disks.
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: Is there any way to make a 5.25" bootstrap disk or any other easy way to
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: install from a 5.25 A: and 3.5 B:? Thanks in advance,
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You may not want to hear this, but you can swap y your floppy
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cables to make a: the 3.5". Thats what I did. Don't forget the
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bios setting, if you have one.
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--
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cannon@lobby.ti.com
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From: pramod@radon.ece.uiuc.edu ()
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Subject: Problems with NET-2 and pl12
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Date: 3 Sep 93 10:28:10 GMT
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Hi,
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I have been having some strange problems with pl12. From some
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previous problems I see that the new kernel is stricter with routing etc.
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Here is a synopsis of the problems.
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1. I can't get access to machines on the local network. All machines outside
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of the local net are fine. On checking netstat I find that my machine does
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realize that another machine is trying to make a connection and it gives
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a SYN_RECV but then hangs. I have gotten aroung this problem by directly
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putting the ip addresses of the local machines into the routing table. Is this
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the correct way of including machines on the localnet ? By the way I am using
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a remote nameserver and a gateway to the outside world. in.telnetd processes
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are also started for each connection that tries to get through.
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2. After reading NET-2-FAQ and trying to follow it through I am also having
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problems. The FAQ specifies that the loopback and at least the local net
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should be specified in /etc/networks. I have found that if my local net is
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included in /etc/networks, all the route add commands end up with a
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SIOADDRT: Network is unreachable error. And the routing table ends up with
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a route localnet that cannot be removed. If the localnet entry is deleted
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from /networks then the routing table is okay.
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3. After the daemons ( nfsd , routed etc) are run the routing table is
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modified vs. looking at the routing table without running the daemons. Is
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that to be expected ?
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4. I have found that telnet sessions to the linux machine crash consistently
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while running NCSA Telnet 2.5b for the Macintosh. The PC versions of NCSA
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telnet and pctcp's tn all seem to work fine. ?????
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Any advice and assistance would be appreciated. Is there a book or docs out
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there yet other than NET-2-FAQ that go into more detail about TCP/IP routing
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networks, etc ?
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Thanks,
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Pramod John
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
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From: lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Otmar Lendl)
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Subject: Re: Linux and Tcsh: Soooo Funny!! (A Joke)
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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 16:59:29 GMT
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In article <265t08$cpk@max.physics.sunysb.edu> paul@pbunyk.physics.sunysb.edu () writes:
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>In some Unixes on 'make love' make answers "I don't know how to make love..." -
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>unfortunately, GNU make adds some unnecessary punctuation.
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>
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On my sun I added the lines
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love:
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@echo "... not war."
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to the /usr/include/make/default.mk file.
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This results in the following response:
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15 lendl@orca:-> make love
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... not war.
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>Sorry for non-linux posting...
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>
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s/>//
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otmar
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--
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| Otmar Lendl (lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.at) | University of Salzburg / Austria |
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| I'm thinking of having my whole body surgically removed. --Lintilla |
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From: wegrzyn@nic.cerf.net (Chuck Wegrzyn)
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Subject: Linux and OS/2 2.1 Boot Manager Co-existence. How?
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Date: 3 Sep 1993 17:41:56 GMT
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Hello. I am trying to get Linux to co-exist on my OS/2 2.1 machine
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by using the OS/2 Boot Manager. I am having troubles.
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When I boot off the Yggdrasil floppy (and use the CDROM), things
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go right -- I can boot up. When I log into INSTALL, and prepare to
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update the partition info on the disk, it tells me it can't read
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device 0800.
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I am using a clone 486/25 CONTAQ motherboard, 32Mbytes of RAM, 256KB
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cache, Adaptec 1542B SCSI controller with a 240MB Maxtor drive.
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Does any one know what I am doing wrong? Or what I should be doing?
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Many thanks for your time,
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Chuck Wegrzyn...
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From: bwillard@eskimo.com (Bob Willard)
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Subject: xvt
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Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1993 20:47:35 GMT
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From: bwillard@eskimo.com (Bob Willard)
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Subject: xvt
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Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1993 20:59:19 GMT
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Has anyone ported xvt to linux?
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From: ppc2@cec2.wustl.edu (Peter P Chiu)
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Subject: video cards
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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 18:21:44 GMT
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Can anyone suggest some video cards that are good for both X and MS windows?
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right now, i have a Diamond Stealth Pro and i don't know how to get it to
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work with X.
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Could someone please let me know?
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Thanks
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--
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.&______~*@*~______&. m Peter Chiu
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"w/%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%\w" mmm*** Washington University, St. Louis
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`Y""Y""Y"""""Y""Y""Y' mm***** ppc2@cec2.wustl.edu
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p-p_|__|__|_____|__|__|_q-q mm**Y** 275 Union Blvd, #711, St. Louis,
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_-[EEEEM==M==MM===MM==M==MEEEE]-_.|..|.... Missouri 63108 (314) 367-3599
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From: sam3103@tamsun.tamu.edu (Stan A. McClellan)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
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Subject: Will Linux run MSDOS applications (which use DMA/interrupts)?
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Date: 3 Sep 1993 13:31:51 -0500
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We like everything I've heard/read about Linux, and we are considering
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installing it on our PeeCees here. However, we have some reservations ...
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We're hoping somebody in these newsgroups can clear this up for us.
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We have several MSDOS applications which use add-on DSP/A-to-D boards and
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we don't want to lose this functionality if we convert to the Linux
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environment.
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(1) How does Linux deal with MSDOS applications? Is it reliable?
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Can it support real-time applications such as A/D and D/A?
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(2) Will any special drivers need to be written/installed for Linux to
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run MSDOS applications which do low-level I/O? If so, I assume that
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software like this is application-specific. Is this correct?
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(3) If the DOS emulator currently won't handle these situations, is there
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work underway to address this, or am I hoping for too much from Linux?
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Thanks for any and all info.
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--
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--
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Stan McClellan Research Assistant
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mcclella@eemips.tamu.edu Texas A&M University
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323A WERC Dep't of Electrical Engineering
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409/847-9493
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From: martini@tournesol.hep.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Ullrich Martini)
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Subject: NeXTStep & Linux
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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 18:52:31 GMT
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hi,
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we here a lot about running ms-windows apps on linux boxes, but there are
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much better user interfaces than windows, for example NeXT Step. this is
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why i am wondering if there are any activities to build a next-linux
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interface like wabi.
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maybe it would be sufficient to have a source-code compatibility. is it true
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that the objective-c compiler used by next is available and ported to linux?
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(heard something like that)
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bye, ullrich
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Subject: xvt
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From: bwillard@eskimo.com (Bob Willard)
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Date: 3 Sep 93 14:45:24 +0600
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Message-ID: <CCqvGD.Cut@eskimo.com>
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Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
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Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1993 20:59:19 GMT
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Lines: 1
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Has anyone ported xvt to linux?
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From: ekimmina@pms709.pms.ford.com (Eric Kimminau)
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Subject: What is QIC02? Mountain Mach 2?
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Date: 3 Sep 1993 19:03:57 GMT
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> As you can see, your "QIC36" card is really something that is QIC02 on one
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> end and QIC36 on the other.
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> It does not pay to cut corners :-) I should have elaborated in the original
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> post. Hope that is accurate enuff for you now...
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> Sorry,
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> Remco
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What are some examples of "QIC02" cards? Is the Mountain Mach2 contrller a
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QIC02? Anyone? Class?
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--
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Eric Kimminau Workstation Systems Department
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313-322-3431 Product & Manufacturing Systems
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ekimmina@pms709.pms.ford.com Ford Motor Co.
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Planning and Implementation "Not an official Ford Spokesperson"
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From: tytso@athena.mit.edu (Theodore Ts'o)
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Subject: Re: how do you uncompress zImage ?
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Date: 3 Sep 1993 15:37:01 -0400
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Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu (Theodore Ts'o)
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From: bone@uncledad.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil (Mike Bone)
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Date: 2 Sep 1993 11:12:39 -0500
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I'm just updated to SLS 1.03 and I need to an uncompressed kernel image
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to use for bootlin. How can I uncompress the zImage file in the root
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directory? Can this be done without the kernel source?
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bootlin should be able to work using the zImage file; have you tried
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this?
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Otherwise, there is no way short of recompiling the kernel from source.
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- Ted
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From: tytso@athena.mit.edu (Theodore Ts'o)
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Subject: Re: [HELP-please] Kernel panic/swapper more info
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Date: 3 Sep 1993 15:38:52 -0400
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Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu (Theodore Ts'o)
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From: ajoseph@is.morgan.com (Adrian Joseph)
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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 09:43:37 GMT
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There are a few minor variations on this including the apsence of the first
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line, this being replaced with
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general protection: 0000
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and occationally something like
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NMI received - Dazed and confused trying to continue
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The NMI received message could be caused by a memory parity error.
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Given all of your other symptoms, it sounds like your memory is
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seriously scrod. Are you sure your SIMMS are of the right speed for
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your clock speed?
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- Ted
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From: sam@ms.uky.edu (Mike Mills)
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Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1 Boot mMgr and Linux
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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 19:40:54 GMT
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person@plains.NoDak.edu (Brett Person) writes:
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>In article <1D71C4D0HW@tron.gun.de> cindy@tron.gun.de (Holger Wiese) writes:
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>>Am 26.08.93 um 03:35 schrieb IKS%BSU-CS.BSU.EDU@USENET.ZER unter dem Betreff OS/2 2.1 Boot mMgr and Linux:
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>>i have tried successfully two ways to use OS/2 and Linux
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>>together. But it seems to be unpossible to boot Linux from
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>>the OS/2 Bootmanager directly. So try one of the following
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>>two ways.
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>Slackware will automatically install for Boot Manager and will boot Linux
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>directly from the boot manager.
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>--
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>Brett Person
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>Guest Account
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>North Dakota State University
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>person@plains.nodak.edu || person@plains.bitnet
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I have 2 IDE drives and one SCSI drive. Since I have 2 IDE drives, my SCSI
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drive is NOT controlled by the adapter BIOS. It takes a driver to use it.
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As I understand it, OS/2 Bootmanager doesn't understand SCSI that isn't
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controlled by the adapter BIOS. OS/2 apparently can't even boot off the
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SCSI drive in this situation, because it doesn't understand SCSI (thats not
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controlled by the adapter bios) until the device driver gets loaded.
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I don't know if this is true or not, it just seems to be the case - can
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someone enlighten me on this?
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Thanks,
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--Mike Mills E-Mail: sam@ms.uky.edu, {rutgers, uunet}!ukma!sam
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--UK Math Sciences Dept. mike@ukpr.uky.edu
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--(606) 257-1429 (work) 263-0721 (home)
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From: pfau@coffee.enet.dec.com (Thomas Pfau)
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Subject: Re: xvt
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Date: 3 SEP 93 15:43:01
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In article <1993Sep3.144524.597@nhqvax.hq.nasa.gov>, bwillard@eskimo.com
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(Bob Willard) writes...
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>Has anyone ported xvt to linux?
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If you can't find xvt, look for rxvt. It's slightly more stripped down.
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tom_p
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pfau@coffee.enet.dec.com | Mapmaker's disclaimer:
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16.69.208.195 | 'Not responsible for topographical
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Compuserve: 73303,1136 | errors.'
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.386bsd.misc
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From: michaelv@iastate.edu (Michael L. VanLoon)
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Subject: Re: BSD UNIX
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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 19:27:02 GMT
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In <MUTS.93Sep2205147@compi.hobby.nl> muts@compi.hobby.nl (Peter Mutsaers) writes:
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>I am puzzled a bit by all the Net/386/Free BSD releases. This is a
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>pity. At the moment I use Linux with very good result, but I 'grew up'
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>with BSD and disliking SYSV. Therefore I would actually rather see a
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>real BSD become the widespread and maybe defeat SYSVR4 in the end.
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>However at the moment Linux has, I think, more coordinated development
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>and therefore has a better defined standard and faster development. I
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>wish the net/386/free BSD community(ies?) could agree more and make
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>their Unix more unified and better.
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Actually, from what I can gather, the only one not coordinating is
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Bill Jolitz himself, since he refuses to let anyone see anything til
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he decides to grace the world with his next new great release. It's
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been over a year since his last year.
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On the other hand, the NetBSD and FreeBSD development groups
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cooperate, and in fact, share code and new developments with each
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other. They're on quite friendly terms and have a "working"
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relationship.
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I run NetBSD. I love it and will not move to anything else unless
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something truly momentous were to happen elsewhere. This is my
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opinion.
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The main differences are: 386BSD, the core of them all. NetBSD and
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FreeBSD are derivatives of the original 386BSD work. 386BSD hasn't
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been improved in over a year by its author, but has a "patchkit" that
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helps it along. I would view this as a tedious and masochistic system
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to install.
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FreeBSD is the patchkit taken to an entirely seperate release. It's
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fairly close to the original 386BSD for those who want to stay there,
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but with mucho bug fixes and upgrades.
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NetBSD is a completely current work apart from 386BSD. Although its
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original source started with 386BSD, the massive amount of changes to
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the kernel and other things qualify this as a totally seperate system.
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The NetBSD maintainers have stated a few main goals (from *my*
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understanding): a) The most stable, bugfree, production quality
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release possible in a free unix, b) As complete as possible compliance
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with 4.3BSD and Net/2, c) Incorporate as much of 4.4BSD as possible,
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as it evolves, d) Buildable on as many architectures as possible
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(386/486 currently in production, Amiga & HP300 in beta, many others
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in alpha testing).
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All three are true BSD unixes and are based on 4.3BSD for the most
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part. They all also incorporate Berkeley Net Release 2 networking
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code to a varrying degree (the stuff in 4.3 and 4.4BSD).
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I hope I haven't erred too much in my analysis. :-)
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Linux is a completely different beast. I haven't installed it and I
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don't want it, but I know people who run it. It works for certain
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people, and more power to them. We're all different. :-) Linux is not
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based on any particular pre-existing unix, but is a built-from-scratch
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OS designed to be posix compliant, and SysV/BSD compliant where
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possible. It's development is a bit more erratic, but productive.
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It's kernel structure is not as clean, having had things piled on top
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to add functionality many times. Until recently, its networking was
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not at all complete. They have recently adopted Net/2, but it is
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still somewhat buggy. The advantage of Linux is that it has shared
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libraries so uses much less memory and disk space. Also, its rumored
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to co-exist with DOS better, but this may be more opinion than fact.
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--
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Michael L. VanLoon Project Vincent Systems Staff
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michaelv@iastate.edu Iowa State University Computation Center
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From: Derek.Bischoff%f1.n3641.z1@psybbs.durham.nc.us (Derek Bischoff)
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Subject: Re: dosemu won't work
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Date: 3 Sep 93 16:52:00 GMT
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u> Hello,
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u> I got Linux working just fine! and everything is hunkydory until I
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u> tried running the dosemu thing. when I type dos* it doesn't run
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u> but I get lots of errors. I can't find any literature on t, but if
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u> anyone out there has it working, I would appreciate some advice.
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u> I'm kinda afraid to run the programs in the dosemu directory without
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u> knowing what they do exactly. I had enough problem installing Linux
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u> and I don't wanna trash the partition or something so son.
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u> so thanks
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u> and please email!
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u> J
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Hello back.
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I wouldn't consider what I have as a working dos system.(yet)
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but I just got it to respond correctly yesterday.
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this is the jist of a README file I had in my release:
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mount your dos partition to /usr/dos
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format a dos system disk, no autoexec.bat or config.sys
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put it in your drive.
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My existing dos binary was screwed up for some reason, so
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I just rm'd it and ran make in /usr/src/dosemu
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staying in that dir I ran ./dos > /dev/null
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this caused my a: to whirl, and I had dos 5.0 on A:
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go to C: drive, and run "LINUX.EXE D"
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this puts what ever partition that is mounted to /usr/dos
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on your "D:" drive.
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that is as far as I have gotten. Can't run much, but it is
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definitely dos.
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... Sincerely, Derek
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From: Derek.Bischoff%f1.n3641.z1@psybbs.durham.nc.us (Derek Bischoff)
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Subject: Re: eth0: Receiver overrun
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Date: 3 Sep 93 16:54:01 GMT
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SB> Maybe this is a FAQ, but the problem is very serious and I couldn't
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SB> find any help. I've 2 machines running Linux (386/25 8MB, 486/33 16MB).
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SB> Both of them upgraded to SLS 1.03 with 0.99pl12 kernel. The ethernet
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SB> cards are an old 8003 8-bit WD card and an Elite 16. Directly after
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SB> rebooting the messages: eth0: Receiver overrun
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SB> or
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SB> eth0: Couldn't allocate a sk_buf of size 282
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SB> occurs on both machines. What can I do to fix this?
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SB> I tried different settings for the ther cards but nothing changed :(
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Look for a README file that describes eth_if (I am away
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from my Linux box, so I can't do it for you)
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I recall that I had to change eth_0 to eth_if in one or more of the
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files to get my 3c503 card to work. If I didn't I had the same
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results you have now.
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... Sincerely, Derek
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From: Derek.Bischoff%f1.n3641.z1@psybbs.durham.nc.us (Derek Bischoff)
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Subject: X386 mice and restart
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Date: 3 Sep 93 17:25:02 GMT
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Hello folks.
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I am not on the Internet, and have to comb the bbs's
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about to find any information that I need.
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With much heartache, headache, and a few cartons of
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cigarettes, I have successfully configured my display
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to show me X. And let me start off by saying, I am impressed!
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this looks at least as good as Xview, which I spent megabucks
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for. I do however have a few problems to clear up, and
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hope that someone would be good enough to give me some feedback.
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First, I am running a HP 386/25 with 12Meg ram.
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I have SLS 1.0, running 0.99.pl6-30
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I have tcp/ip running well, with a 3c503 card attached.
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I have (your choice) a HP Bus mouse (the old style, not ps/2)
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and a microsoft serial mouse.
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1. my Serial ports are autoconfigure in the kernel and they come up
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with the same memory and IRQ as MSD.EXE does.
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whether or not my Xconfig file says :
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Busmouse "/dev/mouse"
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Microsoft "/dev/ttys0" or
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Microsoft "/dev/ttys1" I get the same response:
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When I run X I can see the mouse cursor, but it just does not respond.
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2. as I said, tcp/ip works great. (what performance!) however
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when I run X it says "Setting TCP SO_LINGER: Protocol not available.
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no SIOCGIFCONF
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Where did I go wrong?
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3. when I do a ctrl-alt-F2 to get another screen, it works great.
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how do I jump back to tty1? that is , w/o getting the text config
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screen. (I want to return to X)
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4. Lastly, I have literally, 4 3 ring binders of FAQ's and README's
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(my wife thinks I'm nuts, and I should just buy Unix if I want it)
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But I enjoy seeing the ins and outs, being I admin SCO and HP/UX at
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work, and know little about how everything works together.
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Is there a FAQ that focuses on troubleshooting? Linux
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has many verbose errormessages, and if I knew where to look
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when I get one, it would have aided my installation.
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Oh, and thanks to all that helped make Linux possible. I hope
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to do serious development soon on it so I can donate to the cause
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as well.
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(PS if anyone gives me an Internet address to find info,
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again, I have no access. Would someone please put up a BBS
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that remains quit current? I will call just about anywhere
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in the US)
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Thank you to Unix people of vision. :)
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... Sincerely, Derek
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