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Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #209
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From: Digestifier <Linux-Activists-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
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To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 93 16:13:11 EDT
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Linux-Activists Digest #209, Volume #6 Tue, 7 Sep 93 16:13:11 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: DLL Jump 4.4pl2 and libc.so.4 incomp. v# DLL's ?? (Mitchum Dsouza)
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Re: BSD UNIX (Rob Healey)
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Does Linux work wit... (DE SCHEEMAECKER MARC)
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Trouble with PL12 compile... (Frank Pikelner)
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Run Linux on Quantum 1.2G SCSI HD (Arthur S. L. Hsieh (BACS 2A))
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Re: Bugs with .99pl12 (Daniel Supernaw-Issen)
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Mouse will not work with dosemu 0.49 (John Fauerbach)
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Re: BSD UNIX (A Wizard of Earth C)
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Re: Trouble with PL12 compile... (Daniel Supernaw-Issen)
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Re: BBS package (MCREYNPA)
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Re: What is QIC02? Mountain Mach 2? (Robert B. Martin)
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Re: NeXTStep & Linux (John Will)
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Re: End of 16-bit 'port posting (Larry Doolittle)
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Is TCP/IP built into XFree86-1.3? (Ron Henderson)
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From: mitch@spuddy.uucp (Mitchum Dsouza)
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Subject: Re: DLL Jump 4.4pl2 and libc.so.4 incomp. v# DLL's ??
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 12:50:14 GMT
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Karsten Steffens asks:
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> what is wrong: compiling a hello.c results in a though working,
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> but nagging executable:
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>
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> libc.so.4: incompatible minor version numbers (DLL Jump 4.4pl2)
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>
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> So, what is incompatible with what? gcc with the libraries, the libraries
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> with the loader, or what? BTW, I use SLS 1.03 version of end of august.
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and Scott Mitchell Jennings similarly:
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> But now, everything I have compiled since then starts with the
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> warning:
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> Warning: [appname]: libc.so.4: incompatible minor version
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> numbers (DLL Jump 4.4pl2).
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>
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> I assume this means that I need to update some DLL's somewhere
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> for, the newer kernel, or that I've somehow overwritten the new
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> DLL's with older copies.
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>
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> How should I correct this problem? I should mention that, appart
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> from the warning messages, I have experienced no (obvious)
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> probmlems.
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It seems that SLS has for some reason distributed a testing only version of
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the libc library (I think because of some networking problems with 4.4.1).
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libc.so.4.4.2 is NOT a public release. The messages you are getting is
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because your stubs (.sa files) and DLL's (.so files) do not match version
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numbers.
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You can tell what the stub version number by doing the following:
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% nm /usr/lib/libc.sa | grep "[DU] ___libc"
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this should give you multiple lines something like
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U ___libc_4_402
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U ___libc_4_402
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U ___libc_4_402
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This means your stub is version 4.4.2.
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Now look in your /lib directory and see what your libc.so.4 file is linked
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to. It is more likely than not linked to a DLL library version lower than
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the stub library .sa - hence the warning mesage when a you compile
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something.
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The idea is to make sure both these versions numbers are the same so what
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you compile gets dynamically linked to the correct version of the DLL at
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run-time. In other words you probably need the new libc.so.4.4.2.
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Please read the GCC-FAQ on sunsite.unc.edu /pub/Linux/docs/faqs for more
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information.
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Mitch
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--
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* Meeeow ! Call Spuddy on (0203) 364436/362560 for FREE mail & Usenet access *
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.386bsd.misc
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From: rhealey@gorp.ssesco.com (Rob Healey)
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Subject: Re: BSD UNIX
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 01:59:11 GMT
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In article <CCuHI1.M97@eunet.ch> mw@eunet.ch (Markus Wild) writes:
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>> Hey now! B^). I'll pit the 3000's 0.9 I/O performance against any
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>> 386 or 486 based system any day!
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>>
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[ stuff deleted ]
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>> I run SVR4 on my Amiga tho so I'm not 100% up to date on 0.9's
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>> status.
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>
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>Huh.. take care Rob.. The A3000 does indeed have nice I/O performance,
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>but you won't exploit it with Amiga SVR4.. this one contains one of the
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>most dreadful implementations of a scsi driver I've seen on the amiga...
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I base that bold claim on tests done on a friends machine and not mine.
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I took care to say the 0.9 SCSI driver would put ISA/EISA based
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SCSI I/O to shame. I agree the SVR4 driver is the most pathetic
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excuse for a SCSI driver I've seen in my entire life.
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Thanks for the info relative to the other aspects of the port.
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-Rob
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From: we39110@vub.ac.be (DE SCHEEMAECKER MARC)
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Subject: Does Linux work wit...
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Date: 7 Sep 93 14:46:03 GMT
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Does Linux support following ethernet-adaptor:
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Abell Pocket Ethernet Adaptor ?
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Thanks
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From: frank@cs.yorku.ca (Frank Pikelner)
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Subject: Trouble with PL12 compile...
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Date: 7 Sep 93 14:03:06 GMT
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Hello,
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Just tried to compile Linux PL12 this weekend. I have MCC 0.99pl10+
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installed, (can't recall ver. of GCC and G++ though). I know that
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gcc 2.4.5 is recommended but everything seemed to compile fine. The
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system now boots and when I try to change TTY (ie. ALT-F2, etc.) the
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system crash with a swap partition error. Is my compiler the problem
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or have I missed on something? Also the ';' key does not seem to
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be working do I need to run a keyboard map?
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Thanks,
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--
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==============================================================================
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___/ / Frank Pikelner /~\
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/ _/ / Technical Assistant, Department of Computer Science <v.v>
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__/ ___/ York University (Toronto, Canada) ,\^/;
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_/ _/ Internet: frank@cs.yorku.ca _{!}_
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==============================================================================
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From: cs221442@csun32.comp.hkp.hk (Arthur S. L. Hsieh (BACS 2A))
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Subject: Run Linux on Quantum 1.2G SCSI HD
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Reply-To: cs221442@comp.hkp.hk
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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 15:40:59 GMT
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I've been using Linux on a system with IDE harddisk for 15 months. Now
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I'm planning to get a new SCSI harddisk for running Linux (0.99.12).
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Could anyone tell me if I'll encounter any problem with the combination
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of following hardware?
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Adaptec 1542C SCSI host adapter
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Quantum PD1225S 1.2G harddisk
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I'm especially interested in knowing if Linux can access any disk space
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over 1000M. I ask this because LINUX HARDWARE COMPATIBILITY LIST (Aug, 93)
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states that it can't for ST41650 1400M harddisk.
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Please email to me or reply to this newsgroup as my site doesn't have
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those new comp.os.linux.* groups yet. :-(
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--
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Arthur Hsieh
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cs221442@comp.hkp.hk
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From: daniel@austin.ibm.com (Daniel Supernaw-Issen)
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Subject: Re: Bugs with .99pl12
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 16:19:25 GMT
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In article <1993Sep6.200921.1@vax.sonoma.edu>, levinson@vax.sonoma.edu writes:
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> I have just compiled and put on my system .99pl12 and noticed several problems
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> that you may want to know about.
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> 1) Sometimes when I boot, I cannot use my keyboard. None of the keys do
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> anything including the numlock keys. I have to reboot and hope the filesystem
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> is not corrupted.
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This is likely due to you not upgrading your keymaps. The pl12 kernel introduced
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new keymaps that were more flexible than the old ones. The big drawback is that
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the new kernel panics when it runs into your old keymaps. If you are using a
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US keyboard the solution is very simple - delete /etc/kbmap - this will a) stop
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the kernel from seeing the old keymaps :) and b) force the kernel to use its
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default - the US keymap. If you are using a different keyboard, boot up with an
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older kernal, upgrade the keymaps and reboot with pl12.
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> I downloaded ext2fsprogs 0.3. When I run e2fsck on my hard disk, it checks,
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> then it marks it clean. If I try to run e2fsck again, it says that the
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> filesystem is clean and exits. I know this is normal conduct for e2fsck. The
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> problem is that when I reboot (using shutdown -r now) the first mount says it
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> is mounting an unchecked file system, which leads me to believe that shutdown
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> marked it dirty??? then when my e2fsck runs (which I placed in /etc/rc) it
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> goes thru the whole kit and kaboodle and checks the filesystem. Anyone know
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> why this is and how to correct it? It should only actually check the system if
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> it is not marked clean.
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This is because the file system must be umounted (or mounted read only ) when
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running e2fsck in order for the clean bit to be set.
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> Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please respond via private mail if you
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> can.
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>
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> --
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> Eric Levinson
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> rcisnet2!root@moon.nbn.com | Home computer (UUCP)
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> levinson@vax.sonoma.edu | Vax
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> I can also be reached on my BBS system, Color Galaxy Milky Way (415) 883-0696
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Hope this helps.
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Daniel Supernaw-Issen
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please send all mail/flames/etc to danielsi@cs.utexas.edu
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I speak for nobody but myself.
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From: fauerbac@clyde.cs.unca.edu (John Fauerbach)
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Subject: Mouse will not work with dosemu 0.49
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Date: 7 Sep 1993 15:51:11 GMT
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My mouse will not work with dosemu 0.49. In the /etc/dosemu/config file I
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have the following line:
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serial { mouse device /dev/cua0 }
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My mouse works fine with X and the mouse is at Comm 1. Any ideas?
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John Fauerbach
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.386bsd.misc
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From: terry@cs.weber.edu (A Wizard of Earth C)
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Subject: Re: BSD UNIX
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 93 16:28:43 GMT
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In article <CCu0s1.29o@ssesco.com> rhealey@gorp.ssesco.com (Rob Healey) writes:
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[ ... About NetBSD on the Amiga ... ]
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> Hey now! B^). I'll pit the 3000's 0.9 I/O performance against any
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> 386 or 486 based system any day!
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> I hear the screen/console code doesn't take full advantage of
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> the hardware yet tho. And there is the issue of shared, or
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> better yet dynamic, librarys.
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> I run SVR4 on my Amiga tho so I'm not 100% up to date on 0.9's
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> status.
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The main problem I have with the Amiga version right now is that it requires
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a match coproceser and anMU with all the instructions. This means that an
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030 is needed, or an 020 with a lot of extra chips, and that the 040 can't
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be used until the memory management has been rewritten (both a memory
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management rewrite and a software math coprocesser are reportedly works in
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progress, to be fair).
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The screen/console differences are really another good argument for a
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hardware abstraction layer for the video, keyboard, and mouse I/O; it would
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be best if an X server for *BSD only needed a recompile for each processer
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type, and a 680x0 binary should run unchanged on MACs, Amigas, etc.
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The difference between shared and dynamic libraries boils down to when the
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offset table is filled out. While load tends to be faster with dynamic,
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you do take run-time hits for initial reference of routines with dynamic
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binding; I consider this a loss (it *is* a performance hit that should be
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taken at link time, not runtime -- an application is typically linked
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once and run many times). Also, depending on implementation, you end up
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either losing shared text for each fixup (if it is done wrong) or losing
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shared text for the GOT for the jump-through and reference-through tables
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which could otherwise be marked as shared pages after initial fixup (thus
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increasing the per-instance cost of programs like xterm, etc. -- the size
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of the GOT can be significant for libX + libXt + libc + ...).
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All in all, I'll probably be buying an Amiga to run BSD some time in the
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near future, but it won't be tomorrow.
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Terry Lambert
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terry@icarus.weber.edu
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Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
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or previous employers.
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From: daniel@austin.ibm.com (Daniel Supernaw-Issen)
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Subject: Re: Trouble with PL12 compile...
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 16:36:36 GMT
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In article <2020@yetti.UUCP>, frank@cs.yorku.ca (Frank Pikelner) writes:
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> Hello,
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> Just tried to compile Linux PL12 this weekend. I have MCC 0.99pl10+
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> installed, (can't recall ver. of GCC and G++ though). I know that
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> gcc 2.4.5 is recommended but everything seemed to compile fine. The
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> system now boots and when I try to change TTY (ie. ALT-F2, etc.) the
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> system crash with a swap partition error. Is my compiler the problem
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> or have I missed on something? Also the ';' key does not seem to
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> be working do I need to run a keyboard map?
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>
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> Thanks,
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>
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> --
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> ___/ / Frank Pikelner /~\
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> / _/ / Technical Assistant, Department of Computer Science <v.v>
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> __/ ___/ York University (Toronto, Canada) ,\^/;
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> _/ _/ Internet: frank@cs.yorku.ca _{!}_
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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This has nothing to do with your compiling the kernel. This has to do with
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the pl12 kernel using different keymaps (man this should be in the faq). If you
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are using a US keyboard, the solution is simple - delete /etc/kbmap. This will
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force the kernel to use its default keymapping - the US keymap. If you
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are not using a US keyboard, boot with an older kernel, grab the keymap kit
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(to be found in the same directory you grabbed the pl12 source in) and install
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the new keymap for your keyboard. Then reboot with your new kernel.
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Have fun.
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Daniel Supernaw-Issen
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please send all mail/flames/etc to danielsi@cs.utexas.edu
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I speak for nobody but myself.
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From: mcreynpa@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (MCREYNPA)
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Subject: Re: BBS package
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 17:02:00 GMT
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In article <26ggf0$c8a@nwfocus.wa.com>, ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) writes...
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>mcreynpa@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (MCREYNPA) writes:
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>
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>>>to Linux. I found Eagle BBS, but it would require a couple hours of
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>>>porting work to get up and running. I am looking for something that would
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>>>be like a mess-dos setup, but allow higher level users to get to the shell.
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>>How about waffle? See comp.bbs.waffle for details.
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>A user in waffle would become userid 'bbs' in the shell, unless
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>a 'wrapper' (setname, in this case) were used. While what you
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>suggest is not trivial, is it not impossible. For some, waffle
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>has the disadvantage of being commercial (for UNIX), at a cost
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>of $120 for the source. I think for the original poster's question,
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>waffle is not a viable alternative, in spite of its other features.
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If the main issue is cost, the Waffle is definitely out. If not, then it's
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a good bet insofar as 1) it's easy to port, 2) it has loads of features
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(access to news, shell access for priviledged users, lots more), 3) it's
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highly configurable (without programming experience). On the other hand,
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if you want a Unix bbs with shell access for certain users, you could
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also just use XBBS and install vi as the default editor. Instant shell
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access! Or, if you like the format of the Searchlight BBS, you could
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get the code for PBBS (Pirate's BBS - what the Mars Hotel used to run)
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from erc.msstate.edu and port it. PBBS was written for the Sun 4/110
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running Solaris but it has also been ported to Oracle or some other strange
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Unix OS for Vaxen (BSD variant). If you're not into porting, but like
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the PBBS format, you might also as Ed Luke if he'd do the port. I'm
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sure he won't mind :-).
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>--
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> halcyon.com, A World of Information at Your Fingertips
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> login: new; +1.206.382.6245, 672.4554, 927.5834, 456.0770, 427.0102 (data)
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>Northwest NEXUS, Inc. +1.206.455.3505 or 1.800.539.3505 (24-hour voice lines)
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---
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Phillip McReynolds
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MCREYNPA@CTRVAX.VANDERBILT.EDU
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Reply-To: bmartin@bmartin.win.net (Robert B. Martin)
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From: bmartin@bmartin.win.net (Robert B. Martin)
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Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1993 18:49:39 GMT
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Subject: Re: What is QIC02? Mountain Mach 2?
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>What are some examples of "QIC02" cards? Is the Mountain Mach2 contrller a
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> QIC02? Anyone? Class?
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>
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>
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>--
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>Eric Kimminau Workstation Systems Department
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>313-322-3431 Product & Manufacturing Systems
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>ekimmina@pms709.pms.ford.com Ford Motor Co.
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>Planning and Implementation "Not an official Ford Spokesperson"
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I don't know about the mountain card , but I have an Everex EV-811b
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that works with Linux and the QIC-02 driver.
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--
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===/ |=========================================================
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| / | Bob Martin |
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| / | Engineer/ would-be programmer Vicksburg, Ms 39180 |
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| \ | Email: |
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| | | bmartin@bmartin.win.net |
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| /* | bmartin@hip-hop.suvl.ca.us |
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==/ |=========================================================
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|______ | Linux... A free *NIX OS || Dump DOS
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|____| A happy user/experimenter/tester since 0.11
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From: john.will@satalink.com (John Will)
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Subject: Re: NeXTStep & Linux
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Date: 7 Sep 93 04:23:00 GMT
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J >It took me less than an hour to setup the networking on my NeXT. I
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J >can now log into it from my Macintosh with NCSA Telnet. On my linux box
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J >I've been trying to get the thing to even recognize my host's name and
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J >the ethernet card for about 2 weeks.
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That's more of an indictment of your expertise than a criticism of Linux,
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if you read the FAQ's and followed your nose, you'd have been networking
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long ago. Two weeks is ridiculous.
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From: doolitt@cebaf4.cebaf.gov (Larry Doolittle)
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Subject: Re: End of 16-bit 'port posting
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Reply-To: doolitt@cebaf4.cebaf.gov (Larry Doolittle)
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 14:24:57 GMT
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In article <1993Sep6.204542.1533@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu>,
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ph9991_hall@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes:
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> As the originator of the post, it's time to give the answers to my query. We
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> can stop discussing this one and save bandwidth.
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>
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[ some other ideas ]
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>
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> - Use them as X terminals. I like this idea, as it keeps them productive.
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^^^^^^^^^^^
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> (They both have vga.)
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Bzzzt! Misinterpretation. I was one of many people who wrote in suggesting
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they be used as _terminals_. However, if there is a good 286 VGA X terminal
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program available, I don't know about it (and it would probably be expensive
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and slow). In my mind they are useful as text only - well, maybe some
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Tektronix graphics emulation like Kermit gives you.
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- Larry Doolittle doolittle@cebaf.gov
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From: rhh2h@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Ron Henderson)
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Subject: Is TCP/IP built into XFree86-1.3?
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 16:28:31 GMT
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Hello all,
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I have XFree86-1.3 installed along with SLS1.03 pl12. I see there
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is a specific 8514 server with tcp/ip installed. Does my version
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of X have it?
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I cannot port X output from other machines to the linux box. I have
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executed the standard 'xhost +' on one end and `export DISPLAY' on the
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other. No error messages are given ... the image simply never arrives.
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Does anyone have a (helpful) suggestion?
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--
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Ron Henderson Internet: rhh2h@Virginia.EDU
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EE PhD student BITNET : rhh2h@VIRGINIA
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THN C237 UUCPNet : ...!uunet!virginia!rhh2h
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University of Virginia Voice : " HEY Ron!! "
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