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From: Digestifier <Linux-Activists-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 93 16:13:12 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #258
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Linux-Activists Digest #258, Volume #6 Fri, 24 Sep 93 16:13:12 EDT
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Contents:
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help newbie with setting up "ps" command (Jeffrey Muday)
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Re: [Rev.] startx won't start x.. (Zack Evans)
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Re: Problem while starting X (Zack Evans)
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SLS 1.03 Problems (Bao Chau Ha)
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LINUX NEWBIE, NEED INFO (Steve Stasukewicz)
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$25.95 *NEW* Yggdrasil CD-ROM (Randy Just)
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WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux (Shannon Hendrix)
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Re: Setting up user accts. (rich@mulvey.com)
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Re: LINUX NEWBIE, NEED INFO (Byron A Jeff)
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Using/Starting Xwindows [help] (James F Hall)
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School Science Club may distribute Linux...interested? (Patrick K. Ferrick)
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Re: running X appl. by modem ? (Dhaliwal Bikram Singh)
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Re: WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux (Mark A. Davis)
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DEPCA ethernet card (Rudy Nunez (LAW))
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From: mudayja@wfu.edu (Jeffrey Muday)
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Subject: help newbie with setting up "ps" command
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Date: 24 Sep 1993 14:07:10 GMT
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Linux users:
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I just installed linux on my PC. Many of the basics seem to work
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fine: vi, sed, awk, who... but when I attempt to monitor processes
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with the ps command I get the familiar message that I have to mount
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/proc. The system tells me to make sure /proc exists (and it does) and
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to add the line "/proc /proc proc defaults" to /etc/fstab (which I did
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and then rebooted. But... when I "ps" I get the same message. Can
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one of you solve this mystery for me.
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Also.. what is the /bin/hostname file about. On the bootup disk
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I get one that has a bunch of non-ascii stuff and I get a hostname
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of "softland"; my installed LINUX is missing this file. Can I make one,
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and how do I do it?
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Lastly... And this question demonstrates my lack of attention span for
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reading documentation... What terminal programs are available in the
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basic set-up? I would like to dialup my university account thru
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LINUX (kermit or z-modem file transfer available) on my internal
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"hayes compatible" modem.
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thanks in advance for any help (or flames...)
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--jeff
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From: zevans@nyx.cs.du.edu (Zack Evans)
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Subject: Re: [Rev.] startx won't start x..
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 93 15:30:46 GMT
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In article <1993Sep22.160349.1633@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu> ph9991ha@uwrf.edu (James F Hall) writes:
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> This video adapter is a: VGA WONDER V3
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> Amount of RAM on video adapter: 256k
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> WARNING: Driver may not work correctly with your board!
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>
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>ATI driver requires at least 512k video RAM!
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This is the problem I think; you can't run the colour server with only 256k
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of video RAM... (well that's not quite true, but you certainly can't run it at
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a useful resolution).
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Does the mono driver work?
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Zack
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--
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Zack Evans pyc081@cent1.lancs.ac.uk or zevans@nyx.cs.du.edu
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UNIX was not designed to stop its users from doing stupid things,
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as that would also stop them from doing clever things.
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From: zevans@nyx.cs.du.edu (Zack Evans)
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Subject: Re: Problem while starting X
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 93 15:57:07 GMT
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[keep seeing this - time for a post]
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In article <1993Sep23.204930.27090@knipp.en.open.de> konradin@knipp.en.open.de (Olaf von Wackerbarth) writes:
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>Creating TCP-Socket: invalid argument
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>The File /tmp/.X11-unix/X0= exists!!!
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>
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>Can anyone help about this Problem?
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Yeah, delete it :)
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It's probably left over from if the server crashed without you exiting it
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cleanly.
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Zack
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--
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Zack Evans pyc081@cent1.lancs.ac.uk or zevans@nyx.cs.du.edu
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UNIX was not designed to stop its users from doing stupid things,
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as that would also stop them from doing clever things.
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From: habaoch@eng.auburn.edu (Bao Chau Ha)
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Subject: SLS 1.03 Problems
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 15:36:29 GMT
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I tried to install SLS 1.03. It worked fine during the installation.
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But when rebooting, it hang during the SCSI probe. I had the AHA 1542B
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and a Syquest drive, in addition to the ESDI. This combination used to
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worked well with SLS 1.02.
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Appreciate any comments or pointers.
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Thanks
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Bao
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From: sstasuke@wtc34a.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Steve Stasukewicz)
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Subject: LINUX NEWBIE, NEED INFO
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Date: 24 Sep 93 13:13:04 GMT
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I'm new to this group and also to the LINUX operationg system. Can someone
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give a brief descritpion of the LINUX OS. Will it run MSDOS/WINDOWS and/or
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MAC software? If not, can I configure my MSDOS machine to have both DOS
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and LINUX running. What are some of it's strengths and weaknesses?
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Are there many applications (word processing, spreadsheet, utils, database
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managers, etc) for LINUX. Because of it's name, I imagine it's similar
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to UNIX. Is this correct? Will most UNIX programs run on LINUX? Is it
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a developer's OS? Does it support GUI? If there is an FAQ that answers
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some of these questions, please point me in the right direction. Thanks.
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Steve
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=========================================================================
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MarlboroWinstonCamelMeritVantageKoolVirginiaSlims.....
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( Cig. file currently under construction )
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Steve.Stasukewicz@wtc34a.DaytonOH.NCR.COM
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...!uunet!ncrcom!ciss!wtcp!wtc34a!sstasuke
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From: rjust@crl.com (Randy Just)
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Subject: $25.95 *NEW* Yggdrasil CD-ROM
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Date: 24 Sep 1993 09:31:33 -0700
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Yes, the new version of the Yggdrasil LINUX CD-ROM is going to be here on
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October 1, 1993. This release promises to be the most comprehensive
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plug-and-play operating system distribution ever. Based on LINUX 0.99.13
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kernel, GCC 2.4.5, Xfree86 1.3 (X11R5) X-Windows and hundreds of other
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programs. The CD-ROM will include 235MB of binaries and 445MB of source
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code.
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Also included will be a graphical "fill in the blanks" install
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interface. Almost all CD-ROM interfaces are now supported including SCSI,
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Mitsumi, Sony 535, Sony CDU-31A and the Soundblaster compatible drives
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such as the new double controller.
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As a special promotional offer, between now and October 1, I am offering
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the release for $25.95 ea. Between October 1 and November 1, the release
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will be $27.95. After October 31, the price will be $39.95. Shipping charges
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for U.S. customers will be $4.
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707-769-1648 Just Computers!
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707-765-2447 FAX P.O. Box 751414
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707-765-1431 BBS Petaluma, CA 94975-1414
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rjust@justcomp.com OR rjust@crl.com
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Visa and Mastercard accepted as well. International orders welcomed!!!
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From: shendrix@pcs.cnu.edu (Shannon Hendrix)
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Subject: WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux
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Date: 24 Sep 1993 12:43:56 -0400
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Reply-To: shendrix@pcs.cnu.edu (Shannon Hendrix)
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os@idfs4.uucp (Ole Sandum) writes:
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>spring@diku.dk (Jesper Honig Spring) writes:
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>Be careful. Terming WP as a wordprocessor might
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>just start a holywar :-)
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I'm sure you just HAD to tell us that. Try to keep your unproductive and
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flame-bait opinions to yourself. I think we are all growing very tired
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of these same arguments over, and over.
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--
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Oh Mark... you just kill me... poor guy... you really DO think WP is
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a word processor... :-)
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Long time no see... have not been able to make it to TWUUG... still
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there eh? Bill Roberts doesn't respond to any mail now... must be
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busy...
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L8r..
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csh / shendrix@pcs.cnu.edu / Christopher Newport University
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From: rich@mulvey.com
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Subject: Re: Setting up user accts.
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 14:59:01 GMT
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Lars Wirzenius (wirzeniu@kruuna.Helsinki.FI) wrote:
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: bilan@cps.msu.edu (Thomas J Bilan) writes:
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: > Which works fine for me but when the users log in they don't have write
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: > permission to their own directory.
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: Are you sure it is their home directory that is the problem? What
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: exactly is the error message, and what exactly was it they were trying
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: to do?
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: One possibility would be that somehow / or /home (assuming their
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: homedirectory was /home/name) did not have execute permission for
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: other or group. Do
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: ls -ld / /home /home/name
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: to see exactly what the permissions are.
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: > chmod 777 name
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: This should certainly allow the owner and anyone else to have write
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: permission to the directory.
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I'll bet the problem is that while the directories have u+rwx
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permissions, they're not actually *owned* by the users in question.
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Do a 'ls -al' in the /home directory and see who the owners are.
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If they're not correct, then use:
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chown user directory
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and
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chgrp group directory
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and you should be OK.
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- Rich
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Rich Mulvey Amateur Radio: N2VDS Rochester, NY
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rich@mulvey.com "Ignorance should be painful."
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From: byron@cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff)
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Subject: Re: LINUX NEWBIE, NEED INFO
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 18:20:45 GMT
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In article <733@wtc34a.daytonoh.ncr.com>,
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Steve Stasukewicz <sstasuke@wtc34a.DaytonOH.NCR.COM> wrote:
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You can find all types of FAQ like files on sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/docs.
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I'm glad to briefly answer your questions but you'll find much more info
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than I can ever put into a single message at sunsite.
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>I'm new to this group and also to the LINUX operationg system.
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> Can someone give a brief descritpion of the LINUX OS.
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Free UNIX clone for 386/486 class machines. Source code available. POSIX
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complient.
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> Will it run MSDOS/WINDOWS and/or MAC software?
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DOS - Has an emulator (DOSEMU) runs most non protected mode programs. Not
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read good for games.
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WINDOWS - WINE is the Linux Windows Binary Executive project. Very young
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with no Alpha release yet
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MAC - Not that I know of.
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> If not, can I configure my MSDOS machine to have both DOS and LINUX running.
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Yes. Not at the same time of course. There are several boot loaders that
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will allow you to choose which OS to boot.
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> What are some of it's strengths and weaknesses?
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Strengths - many
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Free. Source available. Uses many of the common hardware devices on PC and
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a few of the not so common. XWindows. Very stable. Has TCP/IP networking and
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the shared filesystems (NFS) and printing that comes along with it. Can
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mount and manipulate MSDOS files systems.
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Weaknesses - few
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Still late Beta so changes fast. Cannot yet run Windows binaries or COFF
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files from SCO. Any others folks? Lacks a real WYSIWYG word processor but
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the DOS emulator can run WordPerfect.
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>Are there many applications (word processing, spreadsheet, utils, database
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>managers, etc) for LINUX.
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Not really (check out doc31),yes,yes,yes,yes.
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> Because of it's name, I imagine it's similar to UNIX. Is this correct?
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No. It is Unix.
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> Will most UNIX programs run on LINUX?
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Source compatible with most SYSV and BSD programs. Most things compile
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with minimal modifications.
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> Is it a developer's OS?
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Is UNIX a developers OS? GCC, GCC+ and OBJGCC are all available. There are
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Fortran and Pascal translators. It has all the typical Unix utils like
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editors, perl, and whotnot.
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> Does it support GUI?
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Xwindows 11R5. Also MGR from Bell labs is supported.
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>If there is an FAQ that answers some of these questions, please point me in
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>the right direction. Thanks.
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Check the top of the posting.
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BAJ
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Another random extraction from the mental bit stream of...
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Byron A. Jeff - PhD student operating in parallel!
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Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332 Internet: byron@cc.gatech.edu
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Subject: Using/Starting Xwindows [help]
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From: ph9991ha@uwrf.edu (James F Hall)
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Date: 24 Sep 93 13:12:38 -0600
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I have posted before on my problem with Xwindow, and I got a lot of
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good advice pointing out that my vga card just doesn't have enough ram
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to support X in color mode. (Thanks for the help!) I'm still happy
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with X in mono, but I can't get it work. I guess I need further help.
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:-)
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When I startx, I get into X, but it's all a series of vertical lines.
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No shapes resolved. I guess I can run my mouse, though, because the
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lines change brightness when I move it. Can't get out of it without
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physically resetting the computer (oh no!).
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Basically, I just need to get X running so I can actually see what's
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there. ;-}
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Other Info: 386DX machine, with 1.03 SLS disks, installed full base +
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X, 80Mb hard drive is 70M filled (10M free), 8Mb physical ram, no swap
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set up by me the user. Card is identified as VGA WONDER V3, with 256k
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ram (I won't dispute this as it is -very- old.)
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I keep notes on all I do to my system (for the benefit of others), so
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here is my xchanges.txt file:
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=================================< xchanges.txt >====================
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Important changes made to my system for X:
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==========================================
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Updated 9-24-1993
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1. I created a file .xinitrc in the home directory to run X. Followed
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the man page on startx to see what should go in it. One line in file.
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I am specifying the twm manager (I use twm at school):
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/usr/X386/bin/twm
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2. Following advice, made a soft link between files so I could run X
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as a mono program (X's fatal error says card does not have enough vga
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ram on it.) Command:
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# ln -sf /usr/X386/bin/XF_Mono /usr/X386/bin/X
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3. X gives a fatal error that I'm not specifying a server. Added
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xserverrc (with a single line) to the home directory:
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XF86_Mono
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From: ferrick@acsu.buffalo.edu (Patrick K. Ferrick)
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Subject: School Science Club may distribute Linux...interested?
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 18:54:06 GMT
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I'm posting this as a sort of a "test balloon"...!
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Our high school science club may distribute Linux on floppies as a means of
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raising money for projects. What we're thinking of is that instead of buying
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the floppies from us, people might be interested in renting the disks (in
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order to make copies of them) at a low rate. Something like this:
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You send them $40, and they mail you the base distribution of the most recent
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Slackware package. You copy the disks, and mail them back in a prepaid box
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of some sort, within say two weeks, and they refund $20. Ie. you get Linux
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for $20. Other parts of the dist would also be made available, as might be
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other packages if the response is good.
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If you'd like to get Linux cheap, and help out a relatively worthy cause,
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could you please drop me some email? (I'm the advisor to the science club,
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in case that isn't obvious!)
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thanks,
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pat ferrick
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Town of Webb School
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Old Forge, NY
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From: a228dhal@cdf.toronto.edu (Dhaliwal Bikram Singh)
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Subject: Re: running X appl. by modem ?
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 18:49:00 GMT
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In article <1993Sep21.183248.28107@hellgate.utah.edu> predard%sunset.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Pablo Redard) writes:
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>Hi everyone,
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>
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>I'm wondering if I can log into my account at the university
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>from home (through modem) and run an X application?
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>I have linux and I'm running openwin.
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>thanks.
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>
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The following is a artical on news by g9wayne@cdf.toronto.edu :
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There are numerous ways of dialing out from any Unix box, including Linux.
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I use kermit(1) to make the initial connection. It has good vt100
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emulation, and is a basic command-line communications program. There
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are others that are more "graphical" under X, like seyon, but I've never
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used it.
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After I make the connection with kermit, I always exit kermit and start
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term(1), which allows me to have multiple virtual connections over the
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modem, and to run X programs remotely. For example, I can run xmaple
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or matlab remotely, over my modem. There is also reportedly a version
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of oot running under Linux. Ask Prof. Holt for more info.
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If you installed kermit and term on your Linux box, then this is how you'd
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do what I just explained.
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linux$ kermit
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kermit> set line /dev/cua0 # or whatever you terminal line is
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kermit> set speed 2400 # or your speed...
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kermit> connect
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at
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OK
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atdt9787239 # wait...
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CONNECT
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PACX....
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SERVICE? cdf
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eddie.cdf login: g9wayne
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Password:
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[login message...]
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g9wayne@eddie> term -s2400
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[now get back to kermit command mode, or exit kermit]
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kermit> !term -s2400 </dev/cua0 >/dev/cua0 &
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kermit> quit
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linux$ trsh # start a remote shell
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g9wayne@eddie> txconn # start up remote X server.
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Then you can go to another Linux screen, or linux xterm, and type another
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"trsh", and you'll have two shells running on eddie.
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Get, install, and read the docs for kermit & term for more info.
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[For those of you not running Linux at home, other people will have to help
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you, I can't.]
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God I hate this damn machine, I wish that they would sell it.
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It never does quite what I want, but only what I tell it. -- unknown
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Wayne Hayes INTERNET: g9wayne@cdf.utoronto.ca CompuServe: 72401,3525
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Wayne is a guy here in the CS department. Please contact him, not me.
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From: mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis)
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Subject: Re: WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 18:40:52 GMT
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shendrix@pcs.cnu.edu (Shannon Hendrix) writes:
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> os@idfs4.uucp (Ole Sandum) writes:
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> >spring@diku.dk (Jesper Honig Spring) writes:
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> >Be careful. Terming WP as a wordprocessor might
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> >just start a holywar :-)
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> I'm sure you just HAD to tell us that. Try to keep your unproductive and
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> flame-bait opinions to yourself. I think we are all growing very tired
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> of these same arguments over, and over.
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> --
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>Oh Mark... you just kill me... poor guy... you really DO think WP is
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>a word processor... :-)
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Oh how demented we are here :-) :-) :-)
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Call me a defender of what we like, choose to use, and meets our needs
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nicely. Tex, as seen by the original poster (and by many), really IS a
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text formatter, not wordprocessor. He didn't mean the posting to sound like
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a slam. I'm still waiting for COFF in Linux so I get buy WP for home......
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(plus other stuff)
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>Long time no see... have not been able to make it to TWUUG... still
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>there eh? Bill Roberts doesn't respond to any mail now... must be
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>busy...
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Sorry we haven't seen you lately. The meetings were moved to first Tuesday
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at 7:30 (just incase).
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| Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk, VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
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| Sys.Administrator| Computer Services | mark@taylor.wyvern.com .uucp |
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From: rnunez@mailer.cc.fsu.edu (Rudy Nunez (LAW))
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Subject: DEPCA ethernet card
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 18:51:02 GMT
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Hello all,
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I was just at work and found some old DEC Depca Ethernet cards.
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Considering these are older 8 bit ethernet cards, and all we
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use at work is the newer 3com cards, I asked the ole boss, "
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eh, we using these....".......Needless to say, I go two Depca
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ethernet cards free (and could probably get 10 more if I wanted
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them..)
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Question is, I have not even attempted to setup TCP/IP with these
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guys, and I figured before I even try, I would ask if anyone
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knows of any problems that I might encounter. Or will I still
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have to shell out $160 bucks for 3com cards.
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Hopefully the reponse I get will be
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, "they work great!"... Thanks all.
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