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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 94 12:13:23 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #700
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Linux-Misc Digest #700, Volume #2 Fri, 2 Sep 94 12:13:23 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: The snatchability factor (was Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows?) (Martin Sohnius)
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Re: Mosaic on Linux (Wessel du Preez)
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Re: Bink for UNIX (Kamil Kukura)
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Re: Application to format/read/write Macintosh Disks (Sam Oscar Lantinga)
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Re: ObjectCenter. What is it ? (John Prewett)
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Re: APC UPS Software/powerd (Bill Broadley)
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Linux counter: There are 7423 registered Linux users (Harald.T.Alvestrand@uninett.no)
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Re: X-based Sound editor? (Martin.Kraemer)
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Re: Does Linux really benefit from video cards? (las@light-house.uucp)
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Re: Bink for UNIX (Louis Lagendijk)
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Re: Linux BBS Software (Dougal Campbell)
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Is dialog vt100 compatible? (yuan tzeng)
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Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows? (Dan Marner)
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Re: 16550AFN serial card (Andre Fachat)
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Re: Anyone running on 386sx? How much mem do you have? (Elan Feingold)
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.hp.apps,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps,comp.unix.unixware
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From: msohnius@novell.co.uk (Martin Sohnius)
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Subject: Re: The snatchability factor (was Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows?)
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 15:54:47 GMT
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Thomas Tonino (ttonino@bio.vu.nl) wrote:
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: As regarding the making availabele of a 'copy to illegaly copy'
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: wordperfect for Linux on Sunsite, I might want to call to your
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: attention that in the past Wordperfect Netherlands approach to
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: piracy has been something like 'It helps us sell'....
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: So... maybe it would be a good idea... but it should look less official I think.
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I would have my doubts whether Novell-Wordperfect Inc. still has
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this attitude. Why don't you try? (But I would recommend a VERY good
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legal insurance policy first.)
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--
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+--------------------------------------------+
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Martin Sohnius | "It doesn't matter whether the cat is |
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Novell Labs Europe | black or white, as long as it catches |
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Bracknell, England | mice." - Deng Xiaoping |
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+44-1344-724031 +--------------------------------------------+
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(I speak for myself, not for Novell or anyone else.)
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From: wessel@mars.aero.csir.co.za (Wessel du Preez)
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Subject: Re: Mosaic on Linux
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Date: 01 Sep 1994 16:43:46 GMT
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Reply-To: wessel@aero.csir.co.za (Wessel du Preez)
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>"Jae" == Jae W Chang <jae+@CMU.EDU> writes:
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Jae> Setting the default home doc is done through X Resources i.e.
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Jae> .Xresources or .Xdefaults for example.
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That, and also (preferably) in $XUSERFILESEARCHPATH/Mosaic. Same
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stuff, but putting it in its own file keeps .Xdefaults (or whatever)
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short. By helping programs avoid reading stuff in resource files that
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they would just ignore anyway, improves startup time of all X
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clients. (I think more thorough explanation can be found in the X or
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Speeding up X FAQs)
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--
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| Wessel du Preez email: wessel@aero.csir.co.za |
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| Aerotek, CSIR phone: +27 12 841 2807 |
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| South Africa fax: +27 12 86 8803 (for my attention)|
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+--------------------------- My opinion only ----------------------------+
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From: kamk@ccsun.tuke.sk (Kamil Kukura)
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Crossposted-To: alt.bbs.allsysop,alt.bbs.unixbbs,alt.bbs.misc,de.comp.os.linux,fr.comp.os.linux
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Subject: Re: Bink for UNIX
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Date: 2 Sep 1994 06:55:24 GMT
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: Where can I find BinkleyTerm for UNIX ? What is the current version ?
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BinkleyTerm for Linux is freely available from well-known linux archive
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sites.
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--
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-- Kamil.Kukura@tuke.sk
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-- --------------------
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-- MIME, ISO-Latin-2
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From: slouken@cs.ucdavis.edu (Sam Oscar Lantinga)
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Subject: Re: Application to format/read/write Macintosh Disks
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 22:55:07 GMT
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: 19:14:48 luna: ~/SRC/hfs0_3$ ./hfs ls /dev/fd0H1440
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: error: cannot open the device "a:" for use as a Macintosh volume
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hfs needs to be suid root.
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(I think it needs write permission to the drive)
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-Sam
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From: jprewett@igthost.bis.adp.com (John Prewett)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
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Subject: Re: ObjectCenter. What is it ?
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Date: 1 Sep 1994 12:11:25 -0400
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In <33d024$h88@wcap.centerline.com> jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost) writes:
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>jsun@athena.mit.edu (Jie Sun) writes:
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>>you know as well as i do that in the pcmarket compatibility is rule;
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>>whereas in the workstation market it's exception.
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>You should tell that to the Solaris 2 and BSDI teams. Ask them just
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>how "compatible" most of the PC hardware they have to deal with is.
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>Or read any of the technical newsgroups and see just how many people
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>have motherboard X and I/O card Y and video driver Z and can't get
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>such-and-such to work with it.
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>I find it hard to call the market "compatible" when there are a dozen
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>"standards" for every little piece. Sometimes they all work well
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>together, sometimes they don't. The competition makes the hardware
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>cheaper, but there is a price that's paid.
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>If the damn stuff were that compatible we wouldn't have long "hardware
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>compatibility lists" would we?
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>jim frost
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>jimf@centerline.com
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Yes, Mr. Frost, but then again, when my company purchased your
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product, we were running Solaris 2.3 and when we called for
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technical support, we were told that there (at the time) was no
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certified version of your product for that version of the OS.
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That made me feel that PC hardware compatibility was an easy
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thing to deal with, when faced with the quagmire of the *IX
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world. Presumably, Solaris 2.3 wasn't on your "software compatibility
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lists" ?
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John Prewett - speaking for myself - as always
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jprewett@bis.adp.com
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From: broadley@turing.ucdavis.edu (Bill Broadley)
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Subject: Re: APC UPS Software/powerd
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 00:18:24 GMT
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: The smart mode if the APC is proprietary; you an get the programming
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: information, but only if you sign a non-disclosure agreement (meaning you
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: can't distribute the result or tell anyone else how to write their own).
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I followed this thread along these lines before... conclusion was if you
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want a slick interface to a ups with lots of added functionality pay
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for a premium unit like the best. But don't expect the same price/performance.
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Anyone out there have a 486/586 star complaint computer and monitor?
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Any idea how many watts it takes sleeping? Compatible with linux?
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The idea of a 17" monitor and a 486/66 lasting hours on a 400 or 600VA
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ups is kind of intriguing.
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--
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Bill Broadley Broadley@math.ucdavis.edu UCD Math Sys-Admin
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Linux is great. Bike to live, live to bike. PGP-ok
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From: Harald.T.Alvestrand@uninett.no
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Subject: Linux counter: There are 7423 registered Linux users
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Date: 1 Sep 1994 03:00:05 +0200
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This is the monthly report from the Linux Usage Counter.
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It is posted on the 1st of every month on the newsgroup
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comp.os.linux.misc
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An uptodate version is always available by anonymous FTP from
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ftp://aun.uninett.no/pub/misc/linux-counter, together with other
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reports based on the same material.
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To enter your registration into the statistics, send an E-mail to
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linux-counter@uninett.no, with the SUBJECT line being one of
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I use Linux at home
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I use Linux at work
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I use Linux at school
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The reply will contain information about how to register more
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information about yourself, your machine and your friends, if you
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want to.
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If you can't do FTP, you can get the reports by sending the counter
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an E-mail containing in the BODY one of the lines
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//REPORT short
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//REPORT persons
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//REPORT machines
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//HELP
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Any questions should be adressed to the maintainer of the counter,
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Harald.T.Alvestrand@uninett.no
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Good luck!
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=================================================================
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Status of the Linux counter, as of Thu Sep 1 00:02:45 MET DST 1994
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There are 7423 registered Linux users
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I estimate this as being between 0.2 and 5% of the total number of Linux users,
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giving the total community size something between 148.460 and 3.711.500 members.
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See the file README.ESTIMATES for the details of why I think so.
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PLACES WHERE LINUX IS USED
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==========================
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Self Other Sum %Sum Place
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5613 76 5689 76% home
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1786 42 1828 24% work
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201 510 711 9% school
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546 52 598 7% somewhere
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57 0 57 0% not used
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==========================
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6808 672 7480 100% TOTAL
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NOTE: Some people use Linux in multiple places, so the total is not
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the sum of the columns.
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COUNTRIES WHERE LINUX IS USED
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=============================
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Country Self Other Sum MPop Linux/M
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===============================================================
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1 is Iceland 12 0 12 0.3 47.2
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2 fi Finland 217 0 217 5.0 43.4
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3 no Norway 136 0 136 4.3 31.7
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4 dk Denmark 100 1 101 5.1 19.6
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5 nl Netherlands 290 0 290 14.9 19.5
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6 se Sweden 153 2 155 8.6 17.8
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7 au Australia 253 4 257 17.1 14.8
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8 de Germany 1009 11 1020 79.1 12.8
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9 ca Canada 324 17 341 26.6 12.2
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10 at Austria 92 11 103 7.6 12.1
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11 us USA 2812 52 2864 249.6 11.3
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12 ch Switzerland 72 0 72 6.7 10.7
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13 si Slovenia 18 1 19 2.0 9.2
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14 gb Great Britain 380 8 388 57.2 6.6
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15 ie Ireland 22 0 22 3.5 6.3
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16 nz New Zealand 19 2 21 3.4 5.6
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17 be Belgium 54 506 560 9.9 5.5
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18 lu Luxembourg 2 0 2 0.4 5.1
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19 ee Estonia 8 4 12 1.6 5.0
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20 fr France 240 14 254 56.2 4.3
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21 il Israel 18 0 18 6.3 2.9
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22 hk Hong Kong 16 0 16 5.9 2.7
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23 sg Singapore 6 0 6 2.7 2.2
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24 hu Hungary 16 0 16 10.5 1.5
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25 pt Portugal 15 2 17 10.3 1.5
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26 it Italy 81 0 81 57.7 1.4
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27 gr Greece 13 0 13 10.1 1.3
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28 cr Costa Rica 4 0 4 3.1 1.3
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29 hr Croatia 6 0 6 4.8 1.3
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30 za South Africa 36 0 36 30.2 1.2
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31 es Spain 44 0 44 39.5 1.1
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32 cz Czech Rebublic 11 0 11 10.0 1.1
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33 cl Chile 14 0 14 13.5 1.0
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34 tw Taiwan 20 0 20 20.3 1.0
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35 jp Japan 94 0 94 123.3 0.8
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36 na Namibia 1 0 1 1.5 0.7
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37 pr Puerto Rico 2 0 2 3.8 0.5
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38 pl Poland 17 8 25 38.4 0.4
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39 sk Slovakia 2 1 3 5.4 0.4
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40 lb Lebanon 1 0 1 3.6 0.3
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41 ro Romania 6 0 6 23.2 0.3
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42 ve Venezuela 5 0 5 20.1 0.2
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43 kr Korea (South) 10 0 10 43.1 0.2
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44 ar Argentine 6 0 6 32.7 0.2
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45 my Malaysia 3 0 3 18.0 0.2
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46 ua Ukraine 6 0 6 51.9 0.1
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47 bg Bulgaria 1 0 1 8.8 0.1
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48 su Soviet Union (former) 15 3 18 147.4 0.1
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49 by Belarus 1 0 1 10.4 0.1
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50 br Brazil 15 3 18 158.2 0.1
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51 co Colombia 3 0 3 34.3 0.1
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52 mx Mexico 6 3 9 81.4 0.1
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53 cs Czechoslovakia (former) 1 0 1 15.7 0.1
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54 th Thailand 3 0 3 57.6 0.1
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55 ph Philippines 3 0 3 68.5 0.0
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56 xe Europe (Somewhere in it) 11 0 11 320.0 0.0
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57 tr Turkey 1 0 1 60.9 0.0
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58 in India 5 0 5 844.0 0.0
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59 xx Unknown 13 19 32 5000.0 0.0
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60 xw The World (Somewhere in i 7 0 7 5000.0 0.0
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From: martin@deejai.mch.sni.de (Martin.Kraemer)
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Subject: Re: X-based Sound editor?
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Date: 2 Sep 1994 12:24:35 GMT
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Reply-To: Martin.Kraemer@mch.sni.de
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Jason Van Patten (vanpatjm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu) wrote:
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: Hi -
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: I was wondering if anyone knows of an X-Windows based .wav
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: player/editory/recorder. Does such an animal exist?
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Look for nas-1.2 (NCD Network Audio System), a fancy client/server based
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networkable audio system; it comes with `simple' demo-tools to play/modify/
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edit/record sounds.
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--
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#include <std/dsclm.h> /* SNI SU BS2000 SD124 - Muenchen, W. Germany */
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Martin Kraemer [Martin.Kraemer@mch.sni.de]
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float o=0.075,h=1.5,T,r,O,l,I;int _,L=80,s=3200;main(){for(;s%L||
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(h-=o,T= -2),s;4 -(r=O*O)<(l=I*I)|++ _==L&&putchar(*((--s%L?_<L?--_
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%6:6:7)+"World! \n"))&&(O=I=l=_=r=0,T+=o /2))O=I*2*O+h,I=l+T-r;}
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From: las@light-house.uucp
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Subject: Re: Does Linux really benefit from video cards?
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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 01:50:42 GMT
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Reply-To: whome!light-house!las@planix.com
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Pekka J Taipale (pjt@snakemail.hut.fi) wrote:
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: In article <33vvnk$jqk@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> warren@wam.umd.edu (the stupid one) writes:
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: >las@light-house.uucp said:
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: >> Yes, the 5428 is a very nice card, support true color, and it gets
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: >> 40K xstones on my DX2/66 machine using Xfree 2.0. (about 60% of the
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: >> speed of an ATI Ultra Pro)
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: >> At 100 dollars, it is probably the best performance for the buck.
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: >I've been seeing VL-bus S3 805 based cards going for $85US at the shows.
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: And, while we're comparing performance: I've got a VL-bus el cheapo
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: no-name S3-805 card in an 486SX-33 and it gets 86K xstones using XFree
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: 2.1. I paid 630 FIM for it, so it must be well under $100 in the US.
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Not to be nit-picky, but $100 US is currently 125 Canadian. I paid
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105 Canadian for the card.
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I haven't seen S3 cards in your price range in Canada, but that could be
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the function of the market.
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The CLDG 5428 does 10 Mb/second raw video IO using SVGALIB applications,
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which I am happy with at the moment. I don't believe an ISA card could
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do this, no matter what the chipset is, simply because of the ISA
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bus overhead.
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: 86K xstones seems surprisingly good to me, especially considering that
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: 486SX-33 is nowadays pretty lame. Anyone know if this score correlates
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: with realistic X video performance? I didn't notice that the S3 server
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: would cheat somehow, but don't trust me in that.
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: Note: I'm not flaming CL5428 either. They're also good cards for their
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: price, and very common, which means good support.
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: --
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: Pekka.Taipale@hut.fi
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Cheers,
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Laszlo Herczeg
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*** Ask me about the Toronto Linux Users Group (TLUG) ***
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From: etmelag@dcrosby27.ericsson.se (Louis Lagendijk)
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Crossposted-To: alt.bbs.allsysop,alt.bbs.unixbbs,alt.bbs.misc,de.comp.os.linux,fr.comp.os.linux
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Subject: Re: Bink for UNIX
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Date: 2 Sep 1994 13:28:42 GMT
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In article <346i8s$574@ccnews.ke.sanet.sk>,
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Kamil Kukura <kamk@ccsun.tuke.sk> wrote:
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>: Where can I find BinkleyTerm for UNIX ? What is the current version ?
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>
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>BinkleyTerm for Linux is freely available from well-known linux archive
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>sites.
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But that is only an old Atari St version. The 2.60 is still not released
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so I can not yet release my patches to make it work (Vince might
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even include them in the next public release)
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Cheers, Louis
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>
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>--
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>-- Kamil.Kukura@tuke.sk
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>-- --------------------
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>-- MIME, ISO-Latin-2
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From: dougal@vespucci.iquest.com (Dougal Campbell)
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Subject: Re: Linux BBS Software
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Date: 2 Sep 1994 07:55:34 -0500
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In article <33s4do$t8o@newshost.uni-koblenz.de>, Wayne Hodgen said something like:
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> The problem with all the BBS software out there is that it's all run on the
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> Internet news/mail services lines. A lot of people (me included) run FIDO
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> at home. I have Internet here at work but I can't afford it at home. I just
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> spent 4 days installing the latest Slackware, getting dail-ins working and
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> trying out 8 BBS packages, none of which I found satisfactory.
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> OK, you say, you don't like it, write your own. Well, I'm seriously
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> considering it. A student of ours has written a FIDO scanner/tosser. A FIDO
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> editor using ncurses and is working on a simple mailer (Binkley is a config
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> nightmare). Is anyone already working on a FIDO BBS for Linux? Does anyone
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> know if theres Free source examples of how to do such a thing? Who would
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> be interested in it?
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One of my fellow admins here at interQuest is running a mailing list
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for discussion of Linux BBS software. If you'd like to join, send the
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command 'subscribe linux-bbs' in the body of a message to
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'majordomo@magellan.iquest.com'.
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--
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Dougal Campbell | Check out the interQuest home page:
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System Administrator | http://www.iquest.com/
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dougal@iquest.com | interQuest: "We can hook you up!"
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From: yuan@cfic2.com.tw (yuan tzeng)
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Subject: Is dialog vt100 compatible?
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Date: 2 Sep 1994 21:01:00 +0800
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I am setting up my Linux machine as a terminal server and
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use dialog to write a user interface. After I write one I use
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a DOS machine to dialup and login (login shell is that dialog
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script). I use both MS-Kermit and Telix to test it. Unfortunately
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I find that there seems to be a terminal type compatible problem
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(keyboard mapping and screen format/color problem).
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So here I ask if anyone know if dialog vt100 compatible? Or is
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there any solution that I can get around this?
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Thanks.
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--
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<EFBFBD>O<EFBFBD>W<EFBFBD><EFBFBD> <20><><EFBFBD>緽 -- Tzeng Ruey Yuan, an independent network consultant
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Your company (head & all branches) wants to have Internet email? Ask me How.
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yuan@cfic2.com.tw
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From: dmarner@mis.nu.edu (Dan Marner)
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware
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Subject: Re: WABI vs. SoftWindows?
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Date: 2 Sep 1994 00:22:03 -0700
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In article <CvD37n.DK0@csfb1.fir.fbc.com>,
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Kevin Brannen <uunet!csfb1!kbrannen> wrote:
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>[With UnixWare] I also get complete and up-to-date man pages (this is
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>a real sore spot with me and gives me many negative feelings towards the FSF
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>despite the good utilities they produce).
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>
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Complete? Well, by some definitions. Novell ships UnixWare without
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man source, which renders commands such as 'apropos' not terribly
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useful. Note that 'apropos' DOES ship with the system, and, when
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asked, Novell says "Yup, it's broken alrighty, nope we aren't gonna
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fix it, why aren't you using the Fingertip Librarian?"
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Or did you mean complete as in "all commands have man pages?" Try
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"man dfspace." One of many I have encountered without a man page.
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In general, I like UnixWare, I support a dozen or so systems
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running it. It definitely has its good points, but the man pages
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certainly aren't one of them. IMHO, of course.
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--
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Dan Marner dmarner@mis.nu.edu
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Network Weasel Finger for PGP 2.6 key including the
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National University words "GMAAAEEAK", "god" and "JAAUUR"
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From: fs1@aixterm1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Andre Fachat)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Re: 16550AFN serial card
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Date: 2 Sep 1994 13:27:58 GMT
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Naji M. Khudairi (naji@myhost.subdomain.domain) wrote:
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: : >Does LINUX support any 16550AFN serial card?
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: Great, but how do you enable the 16 byte buffer in order to take advantage
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: of overrun protection?
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Another silly question
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Can I just remove the 8250 from an (very) old Serial Card and replace
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it with a 16550 to improve serial throughput?
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Thanks
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Andre
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--
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Andre Fachat mail me! fachat@galileo.rhein-neckar.de
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For some it is MS-Windows, for others it's the longest batch file on earth...
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From: feingold@avette.zko.dec.com (Elan Feingold)
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Subject: Re: Anyone running on 386sx? How much mem do you have?
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Date: 2 Sep 1994 13:27:31 GMT
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Reply-To: feingold@avette.zko.dec.com (Elan Feingold)
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> 15 min on a 486dx2 <what i'm upgrading to VERY soon> And I think even
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> considering running X on a 386sx would be a nightmare...
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Nawww... I've been doing serious X development work at home (Frisk, for those
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in the know) for months, with a 386/SX16 w/ 8Mb RAM + 24Mb Swap. Sure, it's
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slower than the P90 then I'm hoping to upgrade to in a few months, but with
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my S3 video card it has worked fine for me. Thanks Linus and others!!!
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Elan
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--
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===============================================================================
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|| Elan Feingold (Cornell '94) || "Two of the most famous products of ||
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|| Software Engineer II || Berkeley are LSD and Unix. I don't ||
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|| Digital Equipment Corporation || think that is a coincidence." ||
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|| Work: 603.881.1115 || - Anonymous ||
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