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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Wed, 7 Sep 94 10:13:20 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #721
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Linux-Misc Digest #721, Volume #2 Wed, 7 Sep 94 10:13:20 EDT
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Contents:
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Why Linux can't do that? (Thomas Papanikolaou)
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How to find out available memory? (Ivica Rogina)
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jlisp under linux? (Maurycy Szmurlo)
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Linux 1.1.8 vs 1.0.8 (Terence Tan)
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Re: Unix programming question (Erik Corry)
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Exercise for Experts (David Anderson)
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Re: Required: Prolog (Eelco H. Essenberg)
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Re: OS/2 vs. Unix Which one is better and why??? (Owen Lynn)
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lpr and hp520 (Timothy Cullip)
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Re: 1.7MB+ format help wanted... (David C. Niemi)
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Re: FTAPE...Im' soo close, yet so far???? (Abhinandan Jain)
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Re: gcc 2.5.8 / g++ with -g does fail on XOpenDisplay( ) ?! (Mitchum DSouza)
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----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: papanik@crypt10.cs.uni-sb.de (Thomas Papanikolaou)
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Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c,comp.os.linux.help,comp.lang.c++
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Subject: Why Linux can't do that?
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Date: 7 Sep 1994 07:58:41 GMT
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Hello everybody
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I have a C++ class called bigint which has some I/O member functions like
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/**
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** using fread/fwrite
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**/
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void read_from_file(FILE * fp);
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void write_to_file(FILE * fp);
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/**
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** using fscanf/fprintf
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**/
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void scan_from_file(FILE * fp);
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void print_to_file(FILE * fp);
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I tried to port this to an Intel 468 running Linux; well the compilation
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is done without warnings but at linking in a program like
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...
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bigint I;
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I.scan_from_file(stdin);
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...
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I get the error message
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bigint_appl.c:187: cannot lookup method in incomplete type `_fake_filebuf'
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I looked in the stdlib.h an I have seen that stdin, stdout, stderr are
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typedef'ined to this struct.
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Question
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========
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Is there a library I have to link explicitly or another include file (I include
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only stdlib.h stdio.h)
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I would appreciate it if you would answer by email
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(papanik@crypt10.cs.uni-sb.de)
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Thank you in advance for any suggestions,
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Thomas
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--
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Thomas Papanikolaou +49 681 302-4166 (office)
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Max - Braun 1 +49 681 684430 (home)
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D-66123 Saarbruecken papanik@cs.uni-sb.de
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--
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Thomas Papanikolaou +49 681 302-4166 (office)
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Max - Braun 1 +49 681 684430 (home)
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------------------------------
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From: rogina@ira.uka.de (Ivica Rogina)
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Subject: How to find out available memory?
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Date: 7 Sep 1994 10:55:34 GMT
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Reply-To: rogina@ira.uka.de (Ivica Rogina)
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How can I find out how much physical memory is left for some process to use.
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Depending on the shell under which a program is running, it can allocate up to
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3 gigs of memory. Trying to access them just makes the process eat up
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swap pages and almost stop the entire system. Is there a way how malloc() will
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return no more then RAM + SWAP - ALREADY_USED_BY_OTHER_PROCESSES ?
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When fooling around with malloc(), I can even cause segmentation faults and
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similar errors without ever doing anything illegal. This behaviour of the
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system is really annoying, since I'd like run quite big processes without
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paralizing my entire machine.
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Ivica rogina@ira.uka.de
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------------------------------
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From: maurycy@ifi.uio.no (Maurycy Szmurlo)
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Subject: jlisp under linux?
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Date: 7 Sep 1994 13:11:20 +0200
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Anybody around here compiled jlisp under linux?
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I tried but gcc reports some errors and I don't have
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the time to look in the sources.
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If anybody did modify the sources for linux and/or
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has allready compiled version I would be
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thankfull to send me mail
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thanks in advance
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--------------------------------------
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Maurice Szmurlo
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maurycy@ifi.uio.no
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=======================================
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------------------------------
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From: terence@hitech.po.my (Terence Tan)
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Subject: Linux 1.1.8 vs 1.0.8
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Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 03:16:38 GMT
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Just a word of caution for all Linux users out there using v1.0.8 and
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are going to upgrade to v1.1.8.. The SLIP support seems to be broken..
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I upgraded and every 5 minutes the modems and dip will just hangup on
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each other... I am going to try v1.1.45 and if it doesn't work does
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anybody know where to report this bug too.
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------------------------------
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From: erik@kroete2.freinet.de (Erik Corry)
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Subject: Re: Unix programming question
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Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 03:29:36 GMT
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Al Longyear (longyear@netcom.com) wrote:
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: mai@wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au (Van Dao Mai) writes:
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: >I have programmed UNIX for a long time and feel frustrated with the way
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: >software is installed on the system. Under UNIX people often have to
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: >hardwire the paths and settings into the executable at compile time.
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: >This is in contrast with DOS that passes the full path name of the execuatble
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: >as argv[0] so that you can search for library + data files.
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: >This is why DOS programmers can install all needed files into one
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: >directory making it easier to maintain and backup. In UNIX after a while
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: >you have no idea where to find the files. You also have binary
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: >distribution problem where you have to make so many links and forget about
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: >them.
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: Just because your program is running does not mean that the code file
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: is still addressable under the name that you have in argv[0]. The argv
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: vector is simply that -- arguments. There is absolutely no requirement
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: that argv[0] even contain the name of the program. Several programs
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: even use it for an additional argument.
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: Let's face facts. UNIX is not MSDOS. You are not alone in the computer. An
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: other program running in the system may change the configuration information
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: which will make the data in argv[0] meaningless.
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Despite this, Lucid Emacs is able to do just what the original poster wanted,
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and it seems to work. Since source is available, there's nothing to
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stop anyone looking how it was done.
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--
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Erik Corry, Skagerrakstr. 2, 79100 Freiburg, Germany, +49 761 406637
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erik@kroete2.freinet.de
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------------------------------
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From: davida@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (David Anderson)
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Subject: Exercise for Experts
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Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 11:53:30 GMT
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Like many others, I'm looking to buy a PC to put Linux on. I'm reading
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all the FAQs HOWTOS etc, and getting a lot of information. However,
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I'm still finding it difficult to make a decision about what to buy,
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especially in the area of Bus/Graphics/SCSI etc.
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It would be *really* useful to me, and I suspect to quite a few
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others, if a few experts would be kind enough to give their definitive
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opinion on final configuration for a system. What I'm thinking of, is
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describing three different configurations, one for beginner, one for
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intermediate and one for advanced, all giving the best performance for
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that level.
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The criteria being that the beginner system should be : buy it,
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install Linux (pref from CD) and start using straight away with the
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minumum of problems. The advanced system might include things which
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are semi or nearly supported (MACH64 ??), which need a bit of messing
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about, but probably give you better performance.
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I would be really grateful for opinions on this. As a starting point,
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the system I would really like to buy right now (but am a bit worried
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about problems) is:
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Pentium 90MHz (P54c) PCI
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16 MB
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ATI MACH64 graphics card
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Adaptec 2942 PCI SCSI or BUS LOGIC BT-946C controller
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Disk > 1.0GB SCSI
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17 inch Monitor
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Twin speed Panasonic CDROM
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Galaxy Pro 16 soundcard
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I'm not really interested about windows or Dos performance (I will use
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them but Linux is the most important)
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Thanks a lot in advance.
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Dave
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*My views not Compaqs
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------------------------------
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From: essenber@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl (Eelco H. Essenberg)
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Subject: Re: Required: Prolog
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Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 11:45:20 GMT
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In article <01HGSIJYX0HK8WWTWW@bodkin.ucg.ie>,
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Paul J. Nolan, Dept. of Mech. Eng., University College Galway, Ireland <Paul.Nolan@UCG.IE> wrote:
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>Hi,
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>
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>I am having great difficulty getting a version of Prolog to build on my
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>linux machine. I've tried five of six different versions, all to no avail.
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>The build problems were sticky ones which I couldn't simply resolve either.
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>I even had one which offered a `linux specific' configuration but that was for
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>a v0.99 kernel and wouldn't build either.
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>
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>To summarise: I am running Linux 1.08 and if you have a version of Prolog
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> which will run on my system, contact me by e-mail and I will
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> tell you how best to send it to me.
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>
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>Thanks a lot in advance, this is really driving me crazy.
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>
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If you haven't tried it already I would advise SWI-Prolog. It is a fairly nice
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Prolog environment, and it compiled under different versions of Linux for me
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(at least 0.99.14 and 1.0; the version I compiled with Linux 1.0 also runs
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under Linux 1.1.19).
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SWI-Prolog is available from ftp.swi.psy.uva.nl, can't remember the directory.
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They also store a readline library for Linux somewhere, get it as well.
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>Kieran.
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Good luck!
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Eelco.
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>
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>Kieran Coughlan
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>Department of Mechanical Emgineering
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>University College Galway
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>Ireland
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>0002103s@bodkin.ucg.ie or Paul.Nolan@ucg.ie
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--
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==========================< Eelco Essenberg >===============================
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E.Essenberg@TWI.TUDelft.NL ftp@ftp.twi.tudelft.nl
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FTP Manager: ftp.twi.tudelft.nl
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<a href=http://www.twi.tudelft.nl/People/E.Essenberg.html>Click me!</a>
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------------------------------
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy
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From: lynn@magneto.physics.auburn.edu (Owen Lynn)
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Subject: Re: OS/2 vs. Unix Which one is better and why???
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Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 04:08:49 GMT
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In article <34ai1k$n12@solaris.cc.vt.edu>, <kenliu@vt.edu> wrote:
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> I'm having an argument with my friend here at Virginia Tech, and I
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>need some expert opinions. Please read and reply.
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>
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>Here's the scenario:
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>
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>My friend (let's call him Bob) has a computer (486-33) with 8 MB of RAM and
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>a 200 meg HD. I on the other hand, have a 486-66 w/16 mb of RAM.
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>
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>I run OS/2 on my machine. Up until recently, he ran DOS/Windows. He recently
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>installed Linux on his machine.
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Linux isn't exactly U*IX, but it's pretty damn close. It's a full
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implemetation of the POSIX spec, with SysV and BSD extensions.
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>He's doing this because he "wants to learn more about his computer."
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>He says that by using Unix, he's learning things about his computer that he
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>wouldn't learn otherwise. This is partially true, IMO, because by running
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>into all the problems of getting Unix off the ground, he's learning a lot
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>about his computer (i.e. the hardware specs).
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>
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>My major pet peeve is when someone comes up to me and says "hey I have Unix
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>so I'm better than you and so is my computer." Well maybe, but hey he
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>can't run Microsoft Office, or use multimedia or even run the DOS apps
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>required for engineering classes here. No Xwindows, no graphics, right?
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>In the mean time, I'm running all my Windows and DOS apps, and getting the
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>benefit of crash protection and true multitasking (and all other good
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>stuff with OS/2).
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Linux has DOSEMU and wine, but neither are out of the beta stage yet.
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You can make a good point for DOS/Win compatibility for OS/2, and a
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point about better multimedia support, but Linux 1.0.x is just as stable,
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has better memory protection (granted, you can get the same protection
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in OS/2 if you set IOPL=no, but some sound drivers may not work).
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There's a package for Linux that will let you run SCO binaries, if you're
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concerned about having shrinkwrap apps.
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>Bob has a friend who has a 486 and Linux. What is it that he can "do" with
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>a Linux machine that is really productive? Bob says that his friend does
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>"all sorts of things" with his machine.
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Where Linux really shines is in its *free* TCP/IP package. You can do
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Mosaic native, telnet, ftp, nn, tin, trn, sendmail, cnews, pine, etc.
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Running remote X clients is *way* faster under Linux than under OS/2.
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>What I want to know is:
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>1) Why do CS majors here use Unix? What is it that is so great about Unix
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> that can't be done with OS/2? No flames on this one.
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Unkludged security. Multiuser capability. POSIX compliance (linux).
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Source code free and clear (linux and FSF GPL). It boots! (OS/2 since
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v2.11 has required me to hack the install procedure to get OS/2 to
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boot - it's the broken aha152x.add problem, and it doesn't look like
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IBM is ever going to fix it)
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>2) Isn't the lack of "killer" apps a good reason not to use Unix?
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Use the tools that get your work done. I liked OS/2, when I didn't
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have a net connection. I got a net connection, and my needs/desires
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started changing - Linux has more power and flexibility when it comes
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to talking with the net. And it's light on the wallet, which is a big
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plus for me.
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[snip]
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>My reasoning is that he should just stick to learning about computers in a
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>conventional way (reading mags and books and online literature, and taking
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>classes) rather than wasting his time by fooling around with Unix.
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I think learning about how OSes work is a worthy pursuit, and not a
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waste of time. In the docs that come with the _Linux Kernel Hacker's
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Guide_ they mention several books which you should read first, but
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after that, the only way to learn is to fool around :).
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>I know for a fact that you can't learn Unix (I mean learn it really well)just
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>by fooling around with it. So what's the point?
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That's not a fact, it's an opinion.
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--
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Owen fnord Lynn | Hi Bill, Have you met Linus Torvalds? He's the
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lynn@physics.auburn.edu | man who can write a *true* POSIX compliant, secure
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lynnowe@eng.auburn.edu | *multiuser*, multithreaded/multitasking OS that runs
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Ask me for my PGP23a Key | in 2Mb. Linux - an open system for free minds.
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------------------------------
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From: cullip@radonc.unc.edu (Timothy Cullip)
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Subject: lpr and hp520
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Date: 7 Sep 1994 12:40:29 GMT
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I almost hate to ask this question since my linux version is ancient (0.98
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I think) and I don't remember the history of my lpr/lpd/etc package, and I
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don't claim to understand the intricacies of printcaps, but I'll ask it
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anyways.
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I just recently got an hp520 ink jet printer (mostly for my wife's DOS/WINDOWS
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wordprocessing use) and I'd like to at least get it to be able to print out
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simple text files under Linux.
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If I use a printcap entry that looks like:
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lp:lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/usr/spool/lp0:lf=/usr/adm/lpd-errs:sh
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and I have a text file (called text_file) that looks like:
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this is a
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test of my printer
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too bad it doesn't work
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and I do "lpr text_file" it prints to the page like:
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this is a
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test of my printer
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too bad it doesn't work
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Well, my first thought was that I could write a real simple output filter
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program (called filter) that outputs a carrage return every time it sees a line
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feed. So I wrote one that reads from standard in, writes to standard out, and
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inserts carrage returns. In fact if I do "filter < text_file > /dev/lp0" it
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prints out just like I'd expect. So I figured, I'd modify the printcap as
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follows:
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lp:lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/usr/spool/lp0:lf=/usr/adm/lpd-errs:of=/usr/etc/filter:sh
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where the filter program had the path /usr/etc/filter.
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Well, I must have a very bad understanding of printcaps and output filters
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because this didn't work at all. Now if I do "lpr text_file" nothing happens.
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Nothing is printed on the printer, no errors are printed on the screen, no
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errors logged to lpd-errs. All that happens is I get my bash prompt back.
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If I do an "lpq" it tells me there are no entries in the queue (and sure
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enough /usr/spool/lp0 doesn't have any files queued up).
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It also doesn't help to change the "of=" to an "if=" in the printcap. It's as
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though the filter program isn't called at all (I tried putting some statements
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into the filter program that opens a temporary file, writes something to it,
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and closes it. When I ran "lpr text_file" I don't get that temporary file
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created, which indicates to me that the filter program wasn't even started.
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So my question is, what did I do wrong? Anybody have a solution for me?
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Anyone have an hp520 filter/driver/whatever for lpr under linux?
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--
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Tim Cullip
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cullip@radonc.unc.edu
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------------------------------
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From: niemidc@clark.net (David C. Niemi)
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Subject: Re: 1.7MB+ format help wanted...
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Date: 7 Sep 1994 03:37:26 GMT
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Reply-To: niemidc@clark.net
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In article x0@netcom.com, pageone@netcom.com writes:
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> I would like information on how to set the /etc/fdprm file
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>to hold the correct formats for the 1.7mb and 1.9mb disks (and any other
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>high-density formats). I'm using Slackware 2.0.0 and Linux kernel 1.0.9.
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Kernels prior to 1.1.41 do not support higher-capacity floppy densities.
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There are some patches to get up to 1.68MB (21 sectors) on a 1.44MB floppy
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on prior kernels; 1.1.41 through 1.1.49 support these formats and up to
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24 sectors equivalent (1.92 MB).
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However, be warned that 1.1.x kernels are development kernels, not for
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the casual user and not without risk. If you do feel up to doing kernel
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testing, make sure you get 1.1.49 or later; and get the "util" and new
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"mtools" versions that go with it (on sunsite.unc.edu in /pub/Linux/kernel/patches/diskdrives/fdpatches-3.1-for-1.1.38.src.tar.gz).
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Ignore the kernel patch, as it is already folded into the latest kernels.
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If you don't feel confident experimenting with new kernels that could
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potentially cause you serious problems, I suggest you wait for 1.2.0 of
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the kernel to come out.
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> I'd like to see the parameters posted to the group, along with
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>any other info related (e.g. reliability) on this topic.
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I'm not sure /etc/fdprm is even needed any more; there's also /etc/mtools
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that actually gets in the way (e.g. on Extra Density 3.84 MB disks).
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=================================================================
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David C. Niemi (SLMA, Herndon, Virginia, USA) niemidc@clark.com
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Know the difference between the color of the wine and the color of
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the glass. (Jalaluddin Rumi)
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From: jain@telerobotics.jpl.nasa.gov (Abhinandan Jain)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
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Subject: Re: FTAPE...Im' soo close, yet so far????
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Date: 05 Sep 1994 13:57:03 GMT
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>>>>> "Michael" == Michael James Porter <mike@strauss.udel.edu> writes:
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In article <3467fh$340@strauss.udel.edu> mike@strauss.udel.edu (Michael James Porter) writes:
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Michael> Define FLOPPY_HACK, I think.
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Michael> In article <CvH8HH.5vx@ecf.toronto.edu>,
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Michael> RYAN Colin Patrick <ryan@ecf.toronto.edu> wrote:
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Michael> =>Hello,
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Michael> =>
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Michael> =>
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Michael> =>I'm trying to get ftape to go and have run into a snag. I have kernel 1.0.0,
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Michael> =>ftape -1.13.b and modutils 0.99.15.pl1. I have succesfully complied the
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Michael> =>modules and went throught the drv. hello world test without any problems.
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Michael> =>I'm pretty sure that make made it to the end of the compile as ftape.o does
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Michael> =>exist. The problem is when I do 'insmod ftape.o'. I get:
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Michael> =>
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Michael> =>darkstar:/usr/src/ftape-1.13b# insmod ftape.o
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Michael> =>_enable_irq undefined
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Michael> =>_disable_irq undefined
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Michael> =>_free_dma undefined
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Michael> =>_free_irq undefined
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Michael> =>_request_dma undefined
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Michael> =>_irqaction undefined
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Michael> =>
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Michael> =>Whats up??
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Michael> =>
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Michael> =>Thanks ahead....Colin Ryan: ryan@ecf.utoronto.ca
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Michael> =>
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Michael> =>
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Michael> =>
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Make sure to use gcc 2.5.8. Earlier versions lead to this problem.
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--
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Abhinandan Jain Jet Propulsion Laboratory
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jain@telerobotics.jpl.nasa.gov 4800 Oak Grove Drive, Pasadena, CA 91109
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From: Mitchum.DSouza@mrc-apu.cam.ac.uk (Mitchum DSouza)
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Subject: Re: gcc 2.5.8 / g++ with -g does fail on XOpenDisplay( ) ?!
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Date: 7 Sep 1994 13:16:26 GMT
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In article <zxmgv07.778888011@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de>,
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zxmgv07@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Will) writes:
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|> Well, if I compile the objectfiles with -g and link without -g it works,
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|> I can debug and all.
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Please give the *exact* messages yoy get when compiling with -g.
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Mitch
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