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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 94 12:13:12 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #739
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Linux-Misc Digest #739, Volume #2 Sun, 11 Sep 94 12:13:12 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: Anyone running on 386sx? How much mem do you have? (James Harper)
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Re: DOOM and Linux (Christopher Wiles)
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What is the *BEST* SCSI Tape Backup? (Matthew S. Crocker)
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color from ncurses on console (Greg Jarman)
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Re: splitted archives (Michael_Nelson)
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Re: Max size of SCSI HD? (Remy CARD)
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VESA/PCI Motherboard EIDE Video etc. (PAUL LESLIE STROPLE)
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deleteing lilo (Nilesh Sorathia)
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Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ?? ("Jae W. Chang")
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Re: OS/2 vs. Unix Which one is better and why??? (Jeff Kesselman)
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Re: Xconfig for 320x200 or similar mode? (Mihail S. Iotov)
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"voice+data" without special hardware (Alex Ramos)
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Adaptec 294x support? (Donald R Lloyd)
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doom ???
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Re: 320x200 X resolution? (Joe Thomas)
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Re: 486dx4 vs Pentium 60 (Dan Pop)
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running x with Spea Mercury (VL) (Michael Seewald)
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Re: Which is the best Linux CD package? Of 2, Trans-Am... (Pete Deuel)
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Weird problems ( shutdown and mouse ) (Hsu Shu-Fu)
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Subject: Re: Anyone running on 386sx? How much mem do you have?
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From: loon@ironbark.ucnv.edu.au (James Harper)
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Date: 9 Sep 1994 05:14:05 GMT
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Elan Feingold (feingold@avette.zko.dec.com) wrote:
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: > 15 min on a 486dx2 <what i'm upgrading to VERY soon> And I think even
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: > considering running X on a 386sx would be a nightmare...
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: Nawww... I've been doing serious X development work at home (Frisk, for those
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: in the know) for months, with a 386/SX16 w/ 8Mb RAM + 24Mb Swap. Sure, it's
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: slower than the P90 then I'm hoping to upgrade to in a few months, but with
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: my S3 video card it has worked fine for me. Thanks Linus and others!!!
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: Elan
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I run linux on a 386SX25 with 4MB of ram, about 16MB of swap and it runs okay.
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sure, it takes a goodly number of hours to recompile the kernal, but as far
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as allowing me to do assignments from home in a unix environment it is great.
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I actually did have X installed and although it swapped a bit more that I would
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have liked it did run quite reasonably. I had to delete it tho as I needed
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some more disk space.
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LOON
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Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
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From: a0017097@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (Christopher Wiles)
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Subject: Re: DOOM and Linux
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Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 01:32:24 GMT
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lmulcahy@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Larry Mulcahy) writes:
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: I just tried it today on my 486/40 and performance was quite
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: acceptable. The graphics for the -2, -3 and -4 options were hosed
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: though, unless this is supposed to be new Underwater Doom.
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That's four messages so far that report that pixel doubling is trashed.
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Gee, even though the README says "no bug reports," does anyone think iD
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can be convinced to fix this?
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-- Chris
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a0017097@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu wileyc@halcyon.com wileyc@quark.chs.wa.com
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"... but I want to use all eight comm ports SIMULTANEOUSLY!"
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PGP 2.6 public key available by finger for the clinically paranoid.
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From: matthew@crocker.com (Matthew S. Crocker)
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Subject: What is the *BEST* SCSI Tape Backup?
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Date: 11 Sep 1994 13:37:42 GMT
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Howdie,
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I'm looking for the nets opinion, I need to backup ~8 Gigs everyday
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and I want it all to fit on one tape. I have a AHA-1542CF SCSI-2
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controller. What is the best (read fastest, most compatible with
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linux 1.1.45+) Price really isn't an option, I can spend @$3000 for a
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drive I was thinking 10GB DAT or 8mm, it doesn't really matter what
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format, jsut as long as it works.
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BW, 3Gigs of the 8 are on another machine, how should I back those up?
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mount / ? and just tar it via NFS? (3c509 ISA cards for the net).
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STABILITY is VERY VERY important :)
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E-mail replies matthew@crocker.com
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--
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-Matthew S Crocker "The mask, given time, comes
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mcrocker@crocker.com to be the face itself." -anonymous
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*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*
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*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*
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From: amigo@Deakin.Edu.Au (Greg Jarman)
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Subject: color from ncurses on console
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Date: 11 Sep 1994 13:58:33 GMT
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Is there some trick to this?
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Do I need to hack up the console termcap entry, or is it something
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more sinister?
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Thanks,
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Greg.
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From: nelson@seahunt.imat.com (Michael_Nelson)
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Subject: Re: splitted archives
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Date: 11 Sep 1994 14:00:25 GMT
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Reply-To: nelson@seahunt.imat.com
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->I hoped to get a printed manual for gcc and glibc. In the faq I saw that
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->I had to get the source for gcc and glibc, and get the manuals from there.
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->I found gcc-2.6.0.tar.gz-slplit on ftp.uu.net, but how do I unpack
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->splitted files? Or put them back to one big file.
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You simply "cat" them together. For instance, if you have:
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part01, part02, and part03, do a:
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cat part01 part02 part03 > gcc-2.6.0.tar.gz
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Make the "cat" list of parts so that it includes all the
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parts you have.
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- Michael -
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From: card@masi.ibp.fr (Remy CARD)
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Subject: Re: Max size of SCSI HD?
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Date: 9 Sep 1994 07:02:16 GMT
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In article <34nql8$j3r@csnews.cs.Colorado.EDU>,
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Drew Eckhardt <drew@frisbee.cs.Colorado.EDU> wrote:
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] In article <CvpCEJ.3J0@odin.apana.org.au>,
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] John Saunders <john@odin.apana.org.au> wrote:
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] >Dale Elrod (dale@gate.dungeon.com) wrote:
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] >> What is the max size that a single partition on a SCSI based hard drive?
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] >> I would like to place two 9 gig drives on my ftp server but want to be sure
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] >> that Linux can handle this.
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] >
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] >Going by the partition table format you should be able to get 8 Gig from
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] >a single drive.
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] You can access terrabyte drives under Linux, using the normal
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] partitioning scheme. With Remy's changes to ext2, you can
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] even have 9 gigabyte partitions if you want.
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Note that you have to use Linux 1.1.46 or above for this. Previous
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versions of the kernel are not able to manage 2GB+ partitions because some
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internal functions used some integer local variables to store the size of
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a partition. Linux 1.1.46+ also raises the ext2fs limit from 2GB to 2TB :-)
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You need a new version of mke2fs and e2fsck as well. Old versions
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(up to 0.5a) are not able to use 2GB+ filesystems. Contact Ted Ts'o
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(tytso@mit.edu) or me to get a snapshot of the new version.
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] >a single drive. If the SCSI controller BIOS handles it, 8 Gig should also
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] >If the SCSI controller BIOS handles it, 8 Gig should also
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] >be usable under DOS. I think Linux is limited by the partition table
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] >limitation.
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]
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] Linux ignores the H/C/S fields in the partition tables, and only
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] looks at the 32 bit flat addresses which don't have this problem.
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While the kernel itself does not care about H/C/S, fdisk seems to
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enforce this restriction :(
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Remy
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From: strople@ug.cs.dal.ca (PAUL LESLIE STROPLE)
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Subject: VESA/PCI Motherboard EIDE Video etc.
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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 13:53:47 GMT
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Yup, I'd say the Subject header says it all. I am looking at a PCI/VESA
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local bus combo motherboard; it has 3 PCIs 3 VLBs and 2 ISAs. I have
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read all the HOWTOs and monitored this group for quite a bit, but I
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still have a few unresolved questions.
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1) I read alot about PCI and Linux - mainly that with an (E)IDE hard disk
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you will only get ISA through put. Does the Vesa, as it is extended ISA,
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have better performance than PCI with IDE drives?
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2) I am planning to buy an ATI GUP, or compatible Mach32. Does this unit work
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in both PCI and VESA on Linux?
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3) In general is it a waste to get the dual bus board (486DX2). I plan to use
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Windows etc. but main concern is with Linux compatibility. I figured that
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with the hard disk on one bus, and the video on the other, you would get
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increased throughput as there would be no bus arbitration. As I under-
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stand it, VESA will degrade in a linear fashion which each board installed
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(the bandwidth is divided among active boards.)
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So much for theory! Would appreciate any comments and experiences (hold the
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flames!)
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Thanks,
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Paul.
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From: nsorathi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Nilesh Sorathia)
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Subject: deleteing lilo
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Date: 11 Sep 1994 03:00:03 GMT
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Hi, I have two partitions on my system, one for DOS and one for linux.
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I also have Lilo loaded up everytime when my computer boots up and it works
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as it's suppose to, but now what I want to do is get rid of Lilo and I
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can't seem to do that.
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Does anyone know how I can get rid of Lilo?
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I want it to boot up to just one system rather then prompting me to enter
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the operating system.
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Can someone please help me out?
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Please e-mail me because I won't get a chance to read this news group.
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Thanks
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my e-mail address is nsorathi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
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From: "Jae W. Chang" <jae+@CMU.EDU>
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Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
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Subject: Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ??
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Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 22:45:21 -0400
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I'm using a PAS16 sound card, and the sound is all garbled. Anyone
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have any success using the same sound card w/ doom?
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Jae
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jae+@cmu.edu
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy
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From: jeffpk@netcom.com (Jeff Kesselman)
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Subject: Re: OS/2 vs. Unix Which one is better and why???
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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 02:45:03 GMT
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In article <34roo6$m23@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> philb@cats.ucsc.edu (Philip Brown) writes:
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>(for those of you who don't know, OS9 is by a company called micro_ware_,
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>and is vaguely unixlike in that it is preemptively multitasking,
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>multiuser, and has a lot of i/o libraries fairly similar to the unix ones.
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>OS9 is used by bigger companies like Philips (In the CD-I machines, even!)
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>for real-time multitasking stuff.
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I used it, at Phillips, for writing CD-I applications (I worked for 2 yrs
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for AIM, now PIMA. The 1st demo disc in the store kiosks was mine if
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anyone saw it.)
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Vaugely UNIX-like is the word. This is not an OS9 area, so i wont go
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into details, but to call it real-time or multi-tasking is a joke. There
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is NO way to get direct access to the interrrupts on a client level (and
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we were FORBIDDEN to write machine specific drivers by the CD-I
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specification.) The multi-tasking turns OFF every time you enter the
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kernel! Yes, thats right, this so-called multi-tasking system has a
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non-re-entrant kernel.
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In short, most of us actually programming CD-I felt OS9 was the second
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biggest CD-I mistake Philips made (the first was removing the bltters
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that were in the pre-release machines, thereby permenantly crippling its
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games ability.) I wouldn't use the CD-I example as a selling point for
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OS9. if you don't believe me, ask aroudn the CD-I programming
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community. Its one of the few things we all agreed on.
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>(a multitasking, modular kernel in less than 128k. You gotta be impressed
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>by that)
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Why should I be impressed? UNIX was orginally developed and run on 64k
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LSI-11. And it did a whole lot more a whole lot better.
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jeffk@crystald.com
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From: iotov@cco.caltech.edu (Mihail S. Iotov)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Re: Xconfig for 320x200 or similar mode?
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Date: 11 Sep 1994 03:18:56 GMT
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cmay@titan.ucs.umass.edu (Christopher M. May) writes:
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>It did, however, allow me to find a 320x240 video mode I can
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>use to play DOOM on my SONY CPD-1304 *Multiscan* monitor.
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>After you cut the source from this article, and compile
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>it, you can get a 320x240 mode with:
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>xmode -dcf 12 -hsf 29.5
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>refresh rate for this mode: 28.26Hz
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>percent of hfl used: 75.37%
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>mode-name dcf hres hspstart hspend hfl vres vspstart vspend vfl
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>320x240 12 320 352 392 424 240 243 247 252
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>I had to add some values to the vertical timing to correct
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>some weird linearity problem on my monitor (top horiz lines spaced wider...)
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>Of course this refresh rate is really low, (although it looks fine to me )
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According to my math this refresh rate is 112Hz, so it whould not bother you
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at all. What the xmode program
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prints out instead is the horizontal sync freq in kHz (which as you see is
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almost what you specified but not quite.)
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From: ramos@engr.latech.edu (Alex Ramos)
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Subject: "voice+data" without special hardware
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Date: 9 Sep 1994 00:05:57 GMT
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I have an idea, which I plan to implement soon unless someone writes
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me saying it's already been done:
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A daemon process waits around until my phone rings (this is detectable
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on some/all modems). When that happens, it sends an "ats0=1" (turning
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on auto-answer) to the modem, and spawns a (fax)getty on /dev/modem.
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Then, 60 seconds later (if the phone has not rung again) or when the
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user that dialed up logs out, whichever comes first, it turns off
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auto-answer and kills the getty.
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In case it isn't obvious why this is useful: It lets you have both a
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(cheap, non data-aware) answering machine and a (cheap generic modem)
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dialup/fax on the same line, without any special hardware.
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I'd appreciate to hear any comments, suggestions, or reality checks
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you may have.
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Thanks,
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--
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Alex Ramos (ramos@engr.latech.edu) * http://info.latech.edu/~ramos/
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Louisiana Tech University, BSEE/Sr * These opinions are probably mine
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From: don@chopin.udel.edu (Donald R Lloyd)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Adaptec 294x support?
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Date: 11 Sep 1994 11:16:15 -0400
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I'm hoping to install Linux on a drive connected to an Adaptec
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2940 series SCSI-2 controller (Adaptec's PCI SCSI controller), but
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there doesn't seem to be support for it anywhere yet. I've tried the
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pre-alpha 2842 boot disk, but it doesn't recognize the 2942.
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Is there a driver for this controller, or is anyone working on
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one? I'd really hate to have to move my nice fast SCSI-2 drive over
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to the 1520 controller on my SB16...
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While I'm at it, what are my chances of finding video drivers to run
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X on my VLB Stealth 24?
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--
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Don Lloyd don@chopin.udel.edu "Mmmmmm.... floor pie."
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Stuck using a PC, but still an Amiga guy at heart...
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From: jmantel@worf.infonet.net ()
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Subject: doom ???
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Date: 11 Sep 1994 03:37:00 GMT
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I got doom for linux, pretty cool. I have a few questions though.
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1. It runs pretty choppy on my machine a DX33 with 20 meg of ram.
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I am running xfree86 2.0. I was wondering if anyone with a similar setup
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got doom to run more like it does in dos? At least movement wise (i.e.
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walking and shooting.)
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2. If I register are the problems encountered in the version I have now
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corrected? Such as pixed doubling, configurable keyboard, sound.
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comment: I have noticed that it does run better in twm and better still
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in olwm than it does in fvwm. This is unfortunate since I prefer fvwm.
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jmantel@worf.infonet.net
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From: jthomas@access3.digex.net (Joe Thomas)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.windows.x.i386unix
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Subject: Re: 320x200 X resolution?
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Date: 11 Sep 1994 11:25:37 -0400
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In article <34us0u$d80@kruuna.helsinki.fi>,
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Olli Vinberg <vinberg@cc.helsinki.fi> wrote:
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>In article <1994Sep10.202313.3057@titan.central.de>,
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>Andreas Matthias <andy@titan.central.de> wrote:
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>>
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>>I have one that's working here (ET4000 with 17'' AOC monitor), but it
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>>occupies only about half of the screen in vertical direction. I did
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>>not find out how to make it bigger vertically. Perhaps someone else
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>>can continue with this:
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>># name clock horizontal timing vertical timing flags
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>> "320x200" 25 320 360 424 440 200 200 240 250
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>I seriously doupt that your monitor can handle that kind of
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>refresh-rates.. Te above modedb-entry would mean a refresh-rate of
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>250Hz!!! I tried to make a 320x200 too, and the closest I got was
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Yeah, I've seen a few people post Xconfig entries for 320x200 that would
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have yielded refresh-rates of >250 Hz. I hope people aren't blowing up
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their monitors out there. I managed to come up with a 504x378 mode that
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works fine, and is about the best I can do while keeping my monitor under
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90 Hz, which is all it's spec'ed up to.
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I also have a 360x270 mode that should work, but it needs a 12 or 12.5
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MHz dot clock. My video card's manual says that it has 12.5 MHz dot
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clock that it uses for VGA 320x200 mode, but XFree86 2.1 doesn't find
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that clock when it does the probe. The lowest one it finds is 25 MHz.
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Does anyone know a way to convince the X server to use a dot clock other
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than one it finds in the probe it does at startup?
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(I added c.w.x.i386unix to the newsgroup line, and set followups back
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to c.o.l.misc. For those just joining this thread, lots of people are
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looking for very low res X setups in order to run the recently released
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DOOM port for Linux. I'm running XFree86 2.1 on Linux 1.0, with a Cirrus
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Logic CLGD 5426-based adapter (the MVGA-AVGA3VL) driving a CTX CMS-1561
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multiscan monitor.)
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Joe
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--
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Joe Thomas <jthomas@access.digex.net> Say no to the Wiretap Chip!
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PGP Public Key available by request, finger, or from pgp-public-keys@io.com
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Key 01C3AADB fingerprint: 1E E1 B8 6E 49 67 C4 19 8B F1 E4 9D F0 6D 68 4B
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From: danpop@cernapo.cern.ch (Dan Pop)
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Subject: Re: 486dx4 vs Pentium 60
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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 15:24:36 GMT
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In <1994Sep6.180024.1326@yacc.central.de> engel@yacc.central.de (C. Engelmann) writes:
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>Harddisk-speed isn't that important in Linux. CPU-speed is definitely
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>more valuable. If you could get more RAM it would be more difficult
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>to decide. With 16 Megs you have almost no swapping to HDD.
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How often do you do big compiles under X, with emacs active in another
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window, on a 16 MB box?
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Dan
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--
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Dan Pop
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CERN, CN Division
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Email: danpop@cernapo.cern.ch
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Mail: CERN - PPE, Bat. 31 R-004, CH-1211 Geneve 23, Switzerland
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Date: 11 Sep 1994 03:36:00 +0200
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From: mseewald@lakeforest.han.de (Michael Seewald)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: running x with Spea Mercury (VL)
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Hallo!
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Is there a way to configure XWindows so that it runs with a Spea Mercury
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(VL)?
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Any help would be appreciated...
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Ciao,
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Michael
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Michael Seewald Usenet: mseewald@lakeforest.han.de
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31134 Hildesheim (Germany)
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From: deuelpm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Pete Deuel)
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Subject: Re: Which is the best Linux CD package? Of 2, Trans-Am...
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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 03:43:38 GMT
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Well, my $.02:
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I've used these 2:
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Yggdrasil Summer '94
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TransAmeritech vol 2 January 1994
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Both were under $50, both have "live" versions so you can run part/all of
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Linux from the CD (bloody slow, I'm sure), both were fully featured
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HOWEVER: If I had to buy again, I'd get the TransAmeritech. A downfall of
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their's is they haven't really updated their CD since we bought it (or we'd
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have bought the newer one again instead of Yggdrasil) put the
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"latest/greatest" stable kernel on, but then again, neither did Yggdrasil...
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I had to upgrade to 1.1.45 anyhow, 'cause I needed to use a 1.6 gig IDE.
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Yggdrasil, while having a lot of nicities, was hardly the "Plug n play" that
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it claimed to be. Trans-Ameritech went in first try as it was supposed to,
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and everything worked (including Email!) The Yggdrasil summer disk had a pink
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leaflet (crammed in the back of the book by the time I found it) that
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described a bug in the install. I fell for this bug twice before the leaflet
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fell out of the book.
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Another problem: I am using this on a machine with the ATI Mach 64, and I
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knew I'd need the alpha X server before running X. From my trans-ameritech
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experience, I figured I'd hop on the net and bring it down. NOPE; the only
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ways to set up the network are under X and by hand. THIS SUCKS, especially
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when running under X is impossible.
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SO, in trying to set up the net by hand, I learned this virtue: Yggdrasil puts
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files in weird places, and files are set up piecemeal--kinda sloppy. This
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made it f**king difficult. I couldn't even look at another Unix box and say,
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"Oh, that's where xxx is" What a pain in the ass.
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And now, I'm still struggling to get smail going. TA's stuff worked right
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after the install and netconfig (a sh-based SHELL SCRIPT) (the smail log shows
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all stuff that goes off the machine as "via: yggdrasil" I've investigated
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routers.inet, but can't seem to make it work--anyone who knows the answer and
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can pass it on, E-mail me!)
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So, that's why. My next CD-based Linux will probably be Trans-Am, or very
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certainly not Yggdrasil anyway...
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Pete
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"Actually, I'm a lab mouse on stilts..."
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E-mail: deuelpm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu
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From: hsu@math.psu.edu (Hsu Shu-Fu)
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Subject: Weird problems ( shutdown and mouse )
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Date: 11 Sep 1994 16:03:32 GMT
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Reply-To: shufu@psu.edu
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[ Article crossposted from comp.os.linux.help ]
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[ Author was Hsu Shu-Fu ]
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[ Posted on 11 Sep 1994 15:56:46 GMT ]
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Hi:
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I have been having this problem since I installed slackware 2.0 kernel
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1.0.9.. My shutdown doesn't reboot my system.. I have to push the reset
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button everytime.. The same problem happens under all kernel I have installed
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from 1.0.9, 1.1.35, 1.1.36, ..., 1.1.50 .. Any suggestion is appreciated..
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Also I have weird problem between modem and mouse.. I have a superio card
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( WINBOND ) with 2 16550a serial ports.. Under kernel 1.0.9, modem and mouse
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can work together.. But under kernel 1.1.* , the mouse dies whenever a modem
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connection is established.. I have modem on port 1 and mouse on port 2.. If I
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switch the ports ( modem on port 2 , mouse on port 1 ), then the mouse dies
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whenever modem is ** turned on **.. The same situation happens under dos..
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I am confused whether this is a OS problem or a SuperIO card problem.. I am
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thinking of buying another serial card for my mouse if it will solve this
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problem.. Any idea, clue, suggestion is much apprciated..
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Thanks a lot..
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shufu@psu.edu Hsu, Shu-Fu
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shufu@psu.edu Hsu, Shu-Fu
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hsu@cse.psu.edu
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hsu@math.psu.edu
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