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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 94 20:13:41 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #759
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Linux-Misc Digest #759, Volume #2 Wed, 14 Sep 94 20:13:41 EDT
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Contents:
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XConfig file for MPC 775 notebook (Walter Neuenschwander)
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Re: Installing a new kernel on the Slackware Boot disk! (Steve Larsen)
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Re: Linux DOOM for X released (Alan Cox)
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linux 1.2? (Sean A. Long)
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perfmeter no connect (again?) (Bill McCarthy)
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Re: Linux vs NeXTSTEP (Doug Dejulio)
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Re: Horrific bug in DOOM! (Mark A. Davis)
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Re: Copyright and licensing - a plea to software authors (Matt Welsh)
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Re: Qlogic Fast!SCSI ISA Support? (Michael Griffith)
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Re: Linux Doom available via anon FTP for limited time (Sam Oscar Lantinga)
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Re: Horrific bug in DOOM! (Jake Colman)
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Can XFree work in a portable? (Ricard Torres)
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486 Motherboards (Hayim Hendeles)
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ide CDROM on linux (Tom Mehrkam)
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Re: Linux vs NeXTSTEP (Doug Dejulio)
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Re: Sony MiniDisc (Andreas Zeidler)
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From: waneu@vision.ethz.ch (Walter Neuenschwander)
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Subject: XConfig file for MPC 775 notebook
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Date: 14 Sep 1994 17:51:43 GMT
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Hi there,
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I just bought a notebook from MPC Tech. Inc. and I'm trying to install
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linux on the machine.
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I want to know whether anyone of you does have any experience in
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setting up X for those notebooks.
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The problem is the XConfig file.
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I would appreciate if someone colud send me a XConfig file that works.
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Thanks a lot.
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Regards, Walter
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++ Walter Neuenschwander, waneu@vision.ee.ethz.ch, ETHZ, Switzerland ++
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Date: 14 Sep 94 13:43:20 GMT
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From: slarsen@gonix.com (Steve Larsen)
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Subject: Re: Installing a new kernel on the Slackware Boot disk!
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oak@domen.uninett.no (Olav Kvittem) writes:
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>From: robert@plasma.apana.org.au (Robert Kroes)
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>...
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> I would like to know how I can create a Slackware boot disk (the one used
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> to install Linux from scratch) and install a kernel of my choice...
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> Why? So I can make use of an alpha network driver to perform an NFS install
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> and save copying 100+ MB of Slackware 2.0 on to floppies :-)
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>I have exactly the same need !
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> I've formatted a diskette with "fdformat",
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> added my kernel with "dd if=/zImage of=/dev/fd0",
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> created a ramdisk with "rdev -r /dev/fd0 1440",
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> and changed the root file system with "rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/ram" (I think :-)
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> The bit I can't work out is how to tweak it so it asks for the ROOT disk,
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> and copies that filesystem to the ramdisk, after the kernel has loaded...
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>Done the same thing execept that I did "rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/fd0".
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>After boot the system ask for the root diskette, but when I insert it
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>I get errormessages like 'IO-error on /dev/fd0' and 'could not read
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>masterblock'.
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It seems like you guys have the 'boot' disk figured out, so your'e trying
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for a 'root' disk? Mount the one you currently have for an example. Incident-
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ally, it's Minix! Seriously, I've done it out of necessity, and you can make
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one alot better than what you get with most distributions. I don't know why
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it has to be Minix---I think it hearkens back to the pre-historical days
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of Linux development.......hope this helps.
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Steve Larsen slarsen@gonix.com splinux!root@orifice.omahug.org
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: Linux DOOM for X released
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 15:40:19 GMT
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In article <7670@raven.ukc.ac.uk> gjh@ukc.ac.uk (Greg Harewood) writes:
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>Digging up an old thread, the only way I would like to be using SVGALIB
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>applications on a regular basis is this - the SVGALIB and a suitable
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>window manager/X patches allowed you to flip between full screen and X
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>windowed versions of SVGA programs. And it would be nice if the X versions
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>were portable.
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Well if you build a shared library with the Xlib calls DOOM makes that
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just happens to map onto SVGAlib bits that suit doom and use that shared
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library earlier in your LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment then by magic you will
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get SVGAlib doom. Aren't shared libraries neat!
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Alan
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// Alan Cox // iialan@www.linux.org.uk // GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU //
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From: LONGSA%DFCS@pcmail.usafa.af.mil (Sean A. Long)
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Subject: linux 1.2?
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Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 21:41:32 GMT
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I caught Linus' post about his trip, and was wondering when the "effective"
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code freeze at 1.2 will be an official 1.2.x release. I didn't want to
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post this to c.o.l.development since I'm asking, not contributing...
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Thanx!
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-=>Sean Long
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slong@cs.usafa.af.mil
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From: bmccarth@gulfaero.com (Bill McCarthy)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: perfmeter no connect (again?)
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Date: 14 Sep 1994 14:00:35 -0400
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Keywords: perfmeter fvwm Ygg Sum '94
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Hi all:
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Dunno if this is an oldie, but..... am running Ygg Sum '94 and
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using fvwm for a window mngr. When I call perfmeter, it comes up
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and I can access the selection window, but I get the message:
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'lost connection'. This happens when I use xview and olvwm as well.
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No biggie, but I'd like to see how it works, as compared to xload and
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xosview. Anyone have any suggestions/pointers/hacks/etc? TIA.
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Bill McCarthy
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bmccarth@gulfaero.com
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"Isn't it pretty to think so."
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TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT\__Jake Barnes___________________________
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LinuX + i486dx2/66
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usual disclaimer
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From: ddj+@pitt.edu (Doug Dejulio)
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Subject: Re: Linux vs NeXTSTEP
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Date: 14 Sep 1994 15:26:06 GMT
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In article <354vi7$jof@bigfoot.wustl.edu>,
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S. Hosseini <saied@lando.wustl.edu> wrote:
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>I know there are lots of Linuxers with high performance PC's, so
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>there is a good chance that some of them have thought about
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>installing NeXTSTEP, or have had experience with
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>it and now converted to Linux, or maybe currently working with both
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>OS's on the same platorm.
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I used to own a NeXTstation, but when NeXT stopped making hardware, I
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sold it to raise the cash to upgrade my PC so it could run NeXTstep.
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For a while I was running with three partitions on my gig drive --
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DOS, Linux and NeXTstep. Unfortunately, NeXTstep performance was so
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bad when compared with Linux performance that I eventually sold my
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copy and now I use Linux exclusively. Running Linux, my PC now
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outperforms my old NeXTstation mono (it had a 40MHz 68040 and 20M RAM)
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as long as I'm not doing graphics (X11 is yucky and brings performance
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down to about the same as my NeXTstation was when it had 8M RAM).
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I had "only" a 486DX2-66 with 8M RAM, gig hard drive, Trident ISA SVGA
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card, Pro Audio Spectrum 16, dual-speed CD-ROM, etc. The 8M RAM and
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ISA SVGA card made NeXTstep virtually unusable. If you've got 32M of
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RAM and one of the supported VLB SVGA cards, you'll probably do a lot
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better.
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What I *really* want is an OpenStep implementation for Linux, with
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Display PostScript and all, so I can throw away X11 and tcl/tk.
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>I want to ask the following:
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>
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>Given the same high performance PC platform,
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>
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>1. Which is cheaper to get?
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> (Answer is easy) Linux, of course. This is one of
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> the main advantages of Linux. Otherwise I wouldn't be using it.
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Yes, Linux, you got this one right.
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>2. Which one is easier to install and has less problem with existing
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> PC hardware?
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Depends. If you've got a really good Slackware 2 based CD-ROM, Linux
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is a lot easier to install. If you don't know what you're doing and
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you FTP bits and pieces from all over, Linux is a lot harder to
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install. On the average, on my machine and those of folks around me
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Linux has been easier to install.
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>3. Which one has more choice of application software?
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Commercial or free? NeXTstep has the edge as far as commercial
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application software, but Linux has the edge as far as free software
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I'd say. Free software matters more to me, so...
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>4. Which one is faster (for the same task) ?
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Linux, no contest. Don't even begin to think they might even be
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comprable.
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>5. Which one has a capability that the other doesn't have?
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Both. Linux supports more devices. Linux will let you root about in
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the kernel. Linux is (in my experience) less buggy. Most POSIX-ish
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things just work under Linux. Linux will let you run DOS applications
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(via DOSEMU) without an expensive 3rd party product. Linux has VCs,
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which remove the need for a windowing system for a lot of folks.
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Linux will run SCO binaries (via iBCS) if you know what you're doing.
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NeXTstep comes with a really cool development environment, IMHO
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unmatched anywhere else by any vendor. NeXTstep has a unified imaging
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model (PostScript) -- anything you can throw up on the screen can be
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put on paper, and it will look good.
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So, hm. Systems-level folks and die-hard Unix-heads will probably
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consider Linux more capable, and applications-level folks, publishing
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types and Macintosh fans might consider NeXTstep more capable.
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>6. Which one has better future? (this is a question for discussion
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> and not for a definite answer.)
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I'd say Linux, probably. NeXT *still* isn't really on 100% solid
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footing yet, are they? Let's assume the worst case, and say that both
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Linux and NeXTstep disappear. With Linux, you've got the source, so
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you can keep using it. With NeXTstep, you're tied to a vendor. So,
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Linux has more of a future as far as *I'm* concerned.
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I don't think either of them has much of a commercial future at all,
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though. They're both for folks on the fringes (which is fine).
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--
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Doug DeJulio
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ddj+@pitt.edu
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http://www.pitt.edu/~ddj/
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From: mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis)
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Subject: Re: Horrific bug in DOOM!
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Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 21:15:11 GMT
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scarrow@netcom.com (Shawn L. Baird) writes:
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>mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis) writes:
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>>Linux is DOS. DOS stands only for "Disk Operating System". Most all
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>>operating systems are DOSes. It did not read MS-"DOS", which is a
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>>different story all together.....
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>Hmmm, a case of semantics. I prefer to consider a "Disk Operating System" to
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>be an operating system whose primary concern is simply serving as a way to
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>access physical file storage. DOS does not, for example, manage tasks to any
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>great extent, nor does it provide multiuser capabilities, etc. So, in that
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>sense, I see the term DOS as being a limit to the capabilities of the OS in
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>question.
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Actually, I see it more that a DOS is an operating system which uses
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random, non-volitile storage as its medium for operation. An embedded
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controller with such storage is probably not running a DOS, but certainly
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the traditional view of Unix is that it is a DOS.
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My point, originally, is that the word DOS has nothing to do with
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Microsoft... neither does the word "windows". The proper names for those
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products always have been, and still are MS-DOS and MS-Windows! Microsoft
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could not, cannot, and will not be able to register common, generic
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English words to their exclusive use. That would be like trying to
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make a new computer called "computer" and registering the name so nobody
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else can use it. Then end up confusing the market-
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Is that a computer?
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Yes
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I mean, is it a computer computer?
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What? It is a computer?
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But what brand is it?
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A Compaq.
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Oh, so it is not a computer then.
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(Now substitute "windows", above in context of MS-Windows, X-Windows,
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Amiga Windows, windows on your car, windows as an abstract concept of GUI, etc)
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--
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/--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
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| Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk,VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
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| Director/SysAdmin | Information Systems | mark@taylor.infi.net |
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From: mdw@cs.cornell.edu (Matt Welsh)
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Subject: Re: Copyright and licensing - a plea to software authors
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 14:12:20 GMT
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In article <1994Sep10.005947.4890.chiark.ijackson@nyx.cs.du.edu> iwj10@cus.cam.ac.uk (Ian Jackson) writes:
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>I AM ABSOLUTELY LIVID. FURIOUS DOESN'T EVEN BEGIN TO DESCRIBE IT.
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All right, Ian. Calm down. It is, after all, only USENET.
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>Secondly, because the moderator of comp.os.linux.announce, Matt Welsh,
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>posted this so-called "correction" WITHOUT ANY REFERENCE TO ME. I
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>find this particularly galling considering the fact that Matt is a
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>*member* of the mailing list I mention above.
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I've already mailed you about this, but here's my defense: I
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decided to approve Ted's posting to present an "alternate viewpoint"
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to the opinions (yes, opinions) stated in your article. In retrospect,
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neither article should have been posted to c.o.l.announce. But I'm
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having to put on the moderator hat, so I can't play favourites.
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Get me? There were a number of impassioned responses both to your
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article as well as Ted's, but I refused to post them, because c.o.l.a
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shouldn't be a mudslinging match between Linux enthusiasts.
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Both articles were accurate as to their claims. The rest is opinion.
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I'm not going to defend my decisions any further. Maybe I screwed up. Cope.
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>This has greatly damaged the cause of free software, and will no doubt
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>make the lives of all the developers and users of Linux much more
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>difficult as they wrestle with the problems caused by missing,
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>unclear, home-built or otherwise unhelpful copyright notices.
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You have a gift for overstatement, Ian.
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M. Welsh
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From: grif@corsa.ucr.edu (Michael Griffith)
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Subject: Re: Qlogic Fast!SCSI ISA Support?
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Date: 14 Sep 1994 16:42:53 GMT
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In article <3570ko$3a2@news.duke.edu>,
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Greg Badros <gregbadr@acpub.duke.edu> wrote:
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>
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>Does anyone know the current status of Qlogic host adapter support by Linux?
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>The SCSI howto says it's under development, but the howto is several
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>months old.
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>Has anyone gotten a Qlogic SCSI adaptor to work with Linux? Please respond
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>via email to gjb@cs.duke.edu
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Its working for some people. Try it out from:
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ftp://cs.ucr.edu/pub/linux/qlogic/stable
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--
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Michael A. Griffith (grif@cs.ucr.edu)
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Department of Computer Science
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University of California, Riverside
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From: slouken@cs.ucdavis.edu (Sam Oscar Lantinga)
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Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
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Subject: Re: Linux Doom available via anon FTP for limited time
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Date: 14 Sep 1994 16:09:36 GMT
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Dave Ahn (ahn@wfu.edu) wrote:
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: I've had Linux Doom (the original and patched) available via anon
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: FTP for the last few days on a very temporary basis, but I've gotten
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: a few messages suggesting that I keep it available for a few more
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: days, since some people are having problems getting a copy from
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: sunsite.unc.edu. I have no problem with that.
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Me too. Check out dewdrop.water.ca.gov:/pub/doom
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Also check out the interesting collection of Linux stuff in /pub/Linux
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Feel free to upload any _LINUX_ONLY_ doom utilities there. Hopefully
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I'll be able to provide a small archive of Linux stuff there. :)
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Uploading should be done to the /incoming directory.
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Enjoy!
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-Sam
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From: jcolman@lehman.com (Jake Colman)
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Subject: Re: Horrific bug in DOOM!
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 14:35:05 GMT
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Kevin Lentin (kevinl@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au) wrote:
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: Huh? I know QDOS as a separate product. Sort of in the lvein of 4DOS. Is
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: this a coincidence?
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QDOS is a product from Gazelle Systems which is more like X-Tree than it
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is like 4DOS. The latter is a replacement command processor for DOS
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in that it fully replaces COMMAND.COM. QDOS is a file selector/browser
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tool with a few other goodies thrown in as well.
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--
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Jake Colman email: jcolman@lehman.com
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Lehman Brothers, Inc. voice: (212) 526-1762
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3 World Financial Center FAX : (212) 526-1411
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21st Floor
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New York, NY 10285
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From: torres@upf.es (Ricard Torres)
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Subject: Can XFree work in a portable?
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Date: 14 Sep 1994 16:46:05 GMT
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I have been using linux on my desktop at home for quite a while. Now
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I am about to buy a (not very sophisticated) portable with a grant,
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and I wonder if I will be able to use XFree when I install linux
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in it. Does anyone know?
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Thanks,
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Ricard
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--
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Ricard Torres e-mail: torres@upf.es
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Department of Economics Phones:
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Universitat Pompeu Fabra (34-3) 542-1755 (office)
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Balmes, 132 (34-3) 542-1746 (fax)
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08008 Barcelona, Spain (34-3) 340-4790 (home)
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From: hayim@quark.la.locus.com (Hayim Hendeles)
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Subject: 486 Motherboards
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Date: 14 Sep 1994 14:56:11 -0700
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I am in the process of buying a 486 system. As everyone I spoke
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to recommended says PCI is the way to go, (with SCSI), I reviewed
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the PCI-HOWTO for more information.
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The HOWTO's recommended a specific 486 PCI Motherboard (ASUS-486-PCI ...)
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which uses the Saturn Chipset rev. 4. However, my dealer has just
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informed me that that chipset is no longer used, and they now use
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the ARIES (sp?) chipset.
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Does anyone know anything about this chipset?
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On a tangential issue, I am in the process of buying a system which I
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would like to run LINUX on, and am curious if anyone knows of any
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vendors in the Los Angeles area who are Linux-knowledgeable, and
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that I can trust to deliver a system which is 100% Linux compatible.
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Needless to say, I would hope the dealer to be honest and reputable.
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Can anyone recommend me a specific dealer? Or am I better off assembling
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a system myself?
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Any advice suggestions would be very much appreciated. Please reply
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via E-mail, if possible. If there is any interest, I will post a summary
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of the responses.
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Thank you,
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Hayim Hendeles
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E-mail: hayim@locus.com
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From: tom@se28.wg2.waii.com (Tom Mehrkam)
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Subject: ide CDROM on linux
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Date: 14 Sep 1994 21:49:45 GMT
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I receintly purchased a Compudyne 2x CDROM from Comp Usa. At the time I did
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not intend to run Linux. The drive seems to be made by AZTECH. The interface
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card definently is. The model number displayed when the DOS driver is loaded
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is AZTECH CDA 268-01A.
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I am using Slackware 2.0. I have tried using the sbpcd boot disk. The ALPHA
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version of the sbpcd driver says that it supports the Kotobuki/Matsushitha/
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Panasonic CD5xx drives and the AZTECH card/"drive ?". my AZTECH card is at
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address 320. When I load the boot disk no cdrom device is foud.
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Can anybody help me with this drive.
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Has anybody heard of this drive.
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From: ddj+@pitt.edu (Doug Dejulio)
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Subject: Re: Linux vs NeXTSTEP
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Date: 14 Sep 1994 15:28:35 GMT
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In article <3574me$fcv@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>,
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Doug Dejulio <ddj+@pitt.edu> wrote:
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>copy and now I use Linux exclusively. Running Linux, my PC now
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>outperforms my old NeXTstation mono (it had a 40MHz 68040 and 20M RAM)
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^^^^^
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OOPS, I mean 25MHz. Sorry.
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--
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Doug DeJulio
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ddj+@pitt.edu
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http://www.pitt.edu/~ddj/
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From: zeidler@ai-lab.fh-furtwangen.de (Andreas Zeidler)
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Subject: Re: Sony MiniDisc
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Date: 14 Sep 1994 01:42:17 +0200
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Hi Alberto,
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>Does anybody have some info about the new Sony MiniDiscs (or whatever they
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>are called)? I heard they will be 340MB magneto-optical R/W 2.5" discs
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>costing less than 10$ apiece; the controller will be also very low-cost
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>(400$?), maybe with floppy interface, maybe IDE.
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hmmm... as far as I know, they will only hold about 120mb each. The
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prices within this rumours were the same, but IMHO the main
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disadvantage is the speed. I've heard, that they won't be much faster
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than a usual floppy disk...
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In case they have SCSI, Linux will support them without trouble, but
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otherwise I'm afraid it won't, unless somebody writes a device driver...
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Btw, I've just bought the new SyQuest 270mb removable harddisk drive,
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and I'm very pleased with it... here're the facts:
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270mb, 14-16ms, SCSI or IDE, 3.5", bootable, no problems with Linux
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media: 120 DM (probably 65-70$)
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drive: 700 DM (probably 380-420$)
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so long,
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Andi
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--
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...and if I died today,
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I'd be the happy phantom...
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