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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Sun, 25 Sep 94 10:15:30 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #820
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Linux-Misc Digest #820, Volume #2 Sun, 25 Sep 94 10:15:30 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: The snatchability factor (was getting absurd) (Joe Doupnik)
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What happened to the supposed code freeze? (Hayim Hendeles)
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reccomend a CD-ROM? (Andrew T. Brown)
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Re: Term - Periodic traffic generation (Matti Suomalainen)
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Re: SB16 MCD and Mitsumi problem - Help (B. Rogers)
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Re: Mitsumi FX001D on SoundBlaster 16 MCD ? (B. Rogers)
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CD-ROM with /pub/Linux tree of SUNSITE? (Carlos Antunes)
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Re: QUESTION: FAX software for Linux/X11? (Holger Koepke)
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How to access Linux filesystem while running dos? (Philip Siming Zhan)
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Re: Royal Computers - How are hey in general and with Linux? (Larry Doolittle)
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Re: More Memory = Slow Linux?? (Brad Matthew Garcia)
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Re: Term - Periodic traffic generation (Bill C. Riemers)
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Re: Don't use Linux or it's to academic! (Jim Graham)
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From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik)
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.hp.apps,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps,comp.unix.unixware
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Subject: Re: The snatchability factor (was getting absurd)
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Date: 15 Sep 94 12:48:25 MDT
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In article <358qs5$q0c@u.cc.utah.edu>, terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) writes:
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> In article <Cw4I97.FDC@novell.co.uk> msohnius@novell.co.uk (Martin Sohnius) writes:
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>
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> [ ... ]
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>
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> ] Assume Ferrari decided not to sell their cars in Greenland. Does that then
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> ] mean you have the right to steal it, put studded tyres onto it, and claim
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> ] to own it, just because you happen to drive it in Greenland only?
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>
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> Is this a private or a public road? 8^).
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>
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> Terry Lambert
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> terry@cs.weber.edu
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> ---
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> Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
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> or previous employers.
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========
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My, this is going rather far. As it turns out the total paved
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road in Greenland is about several miles, from the (ex-)air base at
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Sondrestrom Fjord down to the ship offloading point (around and then
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down the runway, that's it). The better bets on transportation are helos
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(rotten weather permitting), pooches, or feet. Ferrari's would barely rev
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up in first gear before stopping, but zooming across the pack ice would
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be exciting indeed. I doubt that many Italians would be present to check
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on the validity of the vehicle beneath the Ferrari name plate.
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While the above is certainly not a Unix topic it's no farther
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away than the top paragraph. Maybe the thread should now close quietly.
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Joe D.
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From: hayim@alpha.la.locus.com (Hayim Hendeles)
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Subject: What happened to the supposed code freeze?
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Date: 24 Sep 1994 21:24:45 -0700
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In the latest edition of the Linux journal, there was a letter from
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Linus about an imminent code freeze in preparation for a new release
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(I believe 1.2). The letter was dated July 30. It's now nearly 2 months
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later and I haven't seen or heard any talk about this upcoming code
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freeze and new release.
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Any ideas when it can be expected? What still has to happen before
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Linus give the official "freeze" command?
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Hayim Hendeles
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From: s1a7@music.transy.edu (Andrew T. Brown)
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Subject: reccomend a CD-ROM?
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Date: 23 Sep 1994 21:19:23 GMT
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Reply-To: s1a7@music.transy.edu (Andrew T. Brown)
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Hello,
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I was wondering if someone could reccomend a CD-ROM drive for use
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with Linux. I also want to use this drive under MS-DOS and OS/2.
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I'm looking for a 3x or 4x speed w/ a SCSI-2 interface. It will be
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used w/ a SoundBlaster 16 w/ SCSI-2 interface.
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I haven't taken a look at CD-ROM driver support under Linux, so
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I have no idea what types of CD-ROM drives I should or should not
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be considering. TIA.
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// --------------------------------------------------------------
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// andrew todd brown e-mail : s1a7@music.transy.edu
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// transylvania university
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// --------------------------------------------------------------
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From: msuomala@snakemail.hut.fi (Matti Suomalainen)
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Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.misc
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Subject: Re: Term - Periodic traffic generation
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Date: 25 Sep 1994 11:33:51 GMT
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In article <BCR.94Sep23105318@k9.via.term.none> bcr@k9.via.term.none (Bill C. Riemers) writes:
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>>>>> "Chris" == Chris Herringshaw <xxviper@med.umich.edu> writes:
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Chris> Is there a way to make term generate traffic periodically?
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Most people just open an xbiff, xclock, or some other type of window.
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I've found tmon to do this as well.
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--
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matti.suomalainen@hut.fi -- Matti Suomalainen -- Datalapio Oy p. 940 500 7978
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Asennus & konsultointi & tuki, msdos/windows/linux/www.
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X.400: /G=matti/S=suomalainen/O=hut/ADMD=fumail/C=fi/
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http://www.tky.hut.fi/~msuomala/index.html
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From: brogers@ns1.unicomp.net (B. Rogers)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Re: SB16 MCD and Mitsumi problem - Help
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Date: 23 Sep 1994 04:10:17 -0500
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In article <35qtdv$pcg@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>,
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Raymond Ho <rayho@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
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>I have a Mitsumi FX001D controlled by a Sound Blaster 16 MCD. The
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>SB16 is their latest revision with the Mitsumi CD IO port set at 0x230.
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>The only options I have are 230, 250, 270 and 290, while with the older
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>board, the IO port can be set starting at 0x300. I was trying to install
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>the Yggdrasil Linux, the boot diskette insists on looking for a Sony CD
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>ROM drive, I guest it sees the IO port of 0x230 being set, I believe
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>that is where the Sony default. Can I use the boot command to tell
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>LILO that I have a Mitsumi CD at 0x230 and IRQ 11?
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>
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>Thanks...
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You're Welcome.
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I had the same problem with the SlackWare 2.0 CD-ROM and a Mitsumi Double-
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Speed on an SB16. First of all, if you are making your own boot disks to
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suit the hardware on your system, then don't use the SoundBlaster boot
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disk; use the Mitsumi boot disk. (I don't even know if you have to create
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boot disks from images on the Yggdrasil CD, but that's what I did for Slack-
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Ware. I'm just telling you what I know.) Then, when you boot the floppy,
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at the "LILO boot:" prompt, specify the boot image to use followed by
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"mcd=0x230,11".
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Example:
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LILO boot: bootimage mcd=0x230,11
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NOTE: The "bootimage" above should be substituted with the name of the
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default boot image (the one listed first when you hit Tab).
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Seizure Later!
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--
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/* Brian Rogers, disciple of Java, brogers@unicomp.net */
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From: brogers@ns1.unicomp.net (B. Rogers)
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Subject: Re: Mitsumi FX001D on SoundBlaster 16 MCD ?
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Date: 23 Sep 1994 04:36:44 -0500
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In article <35lup2$rhf@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>,
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Thomas Niederreiter <p7003ad@sun3.lrz-muenchen.de> wrote:
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>Hi!
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>
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>I know, that Mitsumi runs with its own controllercard,
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>but works the SB16MCD ?
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>
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I use a MCD on a SB16. The base I/O address and IRQ were different than
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the SlackWare mitsumi boot floppy's settings. I had to specify the kernel
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parameter "mcd=0x340,11" at the "LILO boot:" prompt. Then I went into
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/usr/src/linux/include/linux, and made a copy of mcd.h to mcd.h-sb16. I
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then editted the address and IRQ in mcd.h-sb16 and copied mcd.h-sb16 to
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mcd.h.
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I hope you can understand that. You need to practice your English grammar,
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but I know how hard it can be to practice on something that is important.
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Sorry.
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Glueck!
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--
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/* Brian Rogers, disciple of Java, brogers@unicomp.net */
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From: cmsa@softsousa.pt (Carlos Antunes)
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Subject: CD-ROM with /pub/Linux tree of SUNSITE?
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Reply-To: Carlos.Antunes@softsousa.pt
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Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 13:05:50 GMT
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Hello, fellow netters!
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Do you know of any CD-ROM that has the complete /pub/Linux tree directory
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has seen in Sunsite?
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Thanx!
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Regards,
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Carlos Antunes.
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--
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Carlos Antunes @ SoftSousa Developing for 32bit MS Windows(tm)
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Voice: 351-1-3975303 Windows NT(tm) and "Chicago"
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Fax : 351-1-3975889 Console, GUI or Kernel Mode Drivers
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From: holger@mms.mms-gmbh.de (Holger Koepke)
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Crossposted-To: comp.dcom.fax
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Subject: Re: QUESTION: FAX software for Linux/X11?
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Date: 21 Sep 1994 17:24:12 -0000
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ereidell@media.mit.edu (Evan A. Reidell) writes:
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>I have both Class 1 and Class 2 FAXmodems...
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>and I can use GhostScript to generate large TIFFs,
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>(question: is 'fine' FAX resolution exactly 196x204 dpi?)
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>and Linux/X11 on a PC can talk to the modem port (I'm using Seyon right now)
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>so: is there any FAXmodem software out there for Linux? And how do I find it?
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>UNIX REVIEW Nov92 pp63-76 has reviews of ArnetFAX, DigiFax, Faximum,
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>FaxLink, FaxTrax and VSI-Fax, but I bet they're all very expensive...
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>If anyone can recommend the best way to send FAXes from a LinuxPC,
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>please send me email!
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I use the mgetty+sendfax from G. Doehring(?) and I'm pretty happy with it.
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It's a replacment for the getty too, and works fine with incoming and
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outgoing fax&data. And it supports the courier V.Everthing!
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Holger
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--
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--
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Disclaimer: Expressed opinions are mine and not necessarily those of MMS
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* Holger Koepke * MMS Communication GmbH * tel.: +49 40 211105-0 *
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* h.koepke@mms-gmbh.de* Distribution for USR * fax : +49 40 211598 *
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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From: szhan@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Philip Siming Zhan)
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Subject: How to access Linux filesystem while running dos?
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Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 12:59:43 GMT
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I know that DOS filesystem is visible from Linux (when you run Linux)
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(you can access un-stackered DOS partition or use DOSemu to access the
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stacked partition.)
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On the other hand, how can I access Linux files when I run MSDOS?
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For example, how can I copy a file from Linux partition to DOS or vice
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verse? (I do not mean to excute linux binaries).
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Phil
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc
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From: doolitt@recycle.cebaf.gov (Larry Doolittle)
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Subject: Re: Royal Computers - How are hey in general and with Linux?
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Reply-To: doolittle@cebaf.gov
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Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 03:40:06 GMT
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Craig (tracker@netcom.com) wrote:
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: Larry Doolittle (doolitt@recycle.cebaf.gov) wrote:
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: : money back guarantee. Has Royal learned to use heat sink compound
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: : (when they install heat sinks on processors) yet?
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: Using the heat sink compound with a cpu cooling fan on Intel cpu's voids the
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: Intel 5 year warranty. Best to use clip-on cpu cooling fans to not void
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: the Intel warranty.
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Heatsink _grease_ is white goo that goes between the chip package and
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the heatsink. Proper use of heatsink grease makes a big difference in
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the actual chip temperature, since without it the thermal contact
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between the rough ceramic package surface and the flat metal heatsink
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is rather poor. Highly recommended - this is what I mused about Royal
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learning about (or not).
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Heatsink _glue_ is used to atttach cheaper heatsinks directly
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to the chip, without any clips/bolts/whatever to otherwise hold
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the heatsink on. You see this technology used on IBM-SLC motherboards.
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This stuff is totally inappropriate for add-on use, and presumably
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_would_ void the Intel warranty.
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My use of the word _compound_ was (at best) ambiguous. Sorry for
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any confusion.
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- Larry Doolittle doolittle@cebaf.gov
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From: garcia@ece.cmu.edu (Brad Matthew Garcia)
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Subject: Re: More Memory = Slow Linux??
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Date: 23 Sep 1994 16:14:55 GMT
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In article <CwL50s.JK8@sci.kun.nl>, mvisser@cs.kun.nl (Marc Visser) writes:
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|> In <35pd26$2ft@fs7.ece.cmu.edu> garcia@ece.cmu.edu (Brad Matthew Garcia) writes:
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|> >I want to know if anyone knows *why* this happens. Please post
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|> >any replies to this newsgroup, since I believe others would also
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|> >be interested in hearing the answers. If you cannot post for
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|> >whatever reason, e-mail me (I will forward to the newsgroup if
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|> >you like).
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|> There is an answer to the question in the comp.os.linux...FAQ
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|> It can be caused by a cache that's not big enough or that's only enabled
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|> for the lower part of RAM. If you read the FAQ you can often solve the
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|> problem, if not inform the net so we can help or avoid the hardware you
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|> have bought.
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|>
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|> Greetings,
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|> Marc.
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Yes, I have read the FAQ. The Faqqin' FAQ just tells me to add cache as
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I add memory, and to make sure all my memory is being cached.
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(Sorry, I just get pissed when people say 'read the FAQ' :)
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I think I got that off my chest now.)
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What I wanted to know is why Linux slows down with more memory/no more
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cache, while MS Windows doesn't appear to suffer a bit.
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I have already had several people reply to me, and have heard a few
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plausible explainations. I will summarize my findings and ask some more
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questions.
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First off, some PC's (I think the ones with ISA architecture) cannot
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address more than 16 meg (without special software, anyhow). This is
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given as the reason linux slows down with >16 meg installed.
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Someone told me that MS Windows does not take advantage of any memory
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over 16 meg. First, can anyone else confirm this? Secondly, this
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would explain why MS Windows doesn't slow down with more memory.
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Now, this would suggest that Linux should *not* slow down as memory
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is added SO LONG AS TOTAL MEMORY IS NO MORE THAN 16 MEG, and all of
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the memory is being cached regardless of the cache size. Sure, with
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more cache there should be an improvement, but after an initial 64k,
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there is decreasing returns on the investment. Can anyone support
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this statement by telling me about a system they have in which they
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have added memory and not cache and experienced no (or little)
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performance drop? Or can someone refute this?
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Lastly, I have seen some posts where people have added memory, with
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total memory *not* going above 16meg, and have experienced a
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performance drop. I would like to hear from any people with this
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experience, and hopefully we can find out why this is happening. I
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imagine it is usually caused by the cache not caching all of main
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memory, whether due to incorrect BIOS setup, wrong jumper settings
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on motherboard, or poorly-designed cacheing controllers.
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I'd like to see this Linux memory slowdown problem solved!
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Thanks for helping me!
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--
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Brad M. Garcia Carnegie Mellon University
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____/ ____/ ____/ Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering
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__/ / __/ "The only Engineering department in the world where
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_____/ _____/ _____/ the secretaries have the most powerful computers."
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From: bcr@k9.via.term.none (Bill C. Riemers)
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Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.misc
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Subject: Re: Term - Periodic traffic generation
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Date: 23 Sep 1994 15:53:18 GMT
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Reply-To: bcr@physics.purdue.edu
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>>>>> "Chris" == Chris Herringshaw <xxviper@med.umich.edu> writes:
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Chris> Is there a way to make term generate traffic periodically?
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Chris> The problem I have is the timeout on the dial-in modem is
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Chris> small, so if I get in the shower or go to lunch right
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Chris> before a tupload ends, the modem times out and closes
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Chris> connection, thus I have to restart everything more often
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Chris> then I'd like.
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Chris> If there is not a way to do this, is there a tping or other
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Chris> sort of utility avaiable, that I can throw in a script to
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Chris> periodically ping my router on the net end? I think this
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Chris> would solve the problem, too.
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Chris> Thanks!
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Most people just open an xbiff, xclock, or some other type of window.
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I use the more complicated route of doing "runq" every five minuites
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from my crontab with a termified version of smail. Just make sure
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you don't use something like this to hold open your connection over
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long periods of time without your site administrator's aproval.
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Bill
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p.s. TERM questions/follow ups redirected to comp.protocols.misc.
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From: jim@n5ial.mythical.com (Jim Graham)
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Subject: Re: Don't use Linux or it's to academic!
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Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 01:41:27 GMT
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In article <0DgWkunLQTaG071yn@oslonett.no> serik@oslonett.no writes:
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>Well, thanx a lot for all your comments on my previous posting, as
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>usual, some says I am insane, some says I have a few points of truth.
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I won't say you're insane, but I will say that you seem to be looking at
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things from a very narrow point of view...exactly, I might add, what you
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accuse everyone else of doing. Your first article was, by your own
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admission, flame bait, and frankly, didn't even deserve a reply.
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>I merely states that there are quite a few
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>reasons *at the moment* for *not* putting Linux in a commercial
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>environment. So far none of your postings have made me change my mind.
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Fine. But I have just one request: define ``commercial environment''.
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What kind of commercial environment? I've worked in and been exposed to
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so many *VERY* different environments in the ``commercial'' world that
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your statement above, as it stands, really has no meaning.
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What type of business are we talking about? What type of application? Is
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this something that's mission-critical, where the cost of the high-end
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equipment is trivial compared to the cost of even a moment's worth of
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down-time (in which case, IMHO, *ANY* 80x86 box is out of the question,
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regardless of the software it's running)? Or is this in, perhaps, an
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engineering environment, where you have power users, and the possibility
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of down-time (note---the only down-time my Linux machine sees is due to
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a flaky HD controller that I just haven't gotten around to replacing
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yet) doesn't mean the end of the world?
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Making a blanket statement such as yours is as meaningless as the one
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you made about people in the .edu domain (but that's already been
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covered). Of course, such statements tend to have little, if any
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meaning, so.....
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>When we are talking about customers and their *weird* environment, with
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>LAN's based on NetWare and TokenRing and there's an AS/400 in that ring
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>and they use their PC's to connect to the AS/400, Linux falls through.
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But that isn't the only kind of commercial environment.... For example,
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I work for a government contractor. May paycheck comes from my employer,
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but they get the money directly from the US Government. We have a few
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DOS machines.... One of them is on our receptionist's desk, and she uses
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it for WordPerfect (for what, I'm not sure) and connecting to our Suns.
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Our technical documentation is mostly done on a NeXT running Framemaker.
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I prefer TeX (plain TeX, btw, not LaTeX), and I use it. From comments
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I've heard, I'm not the only one using TeX, and there may well be more
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documentation from our group done with TeX in the future. Either way,
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it's all done under UNIX, not dos.
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We even have some PCs running Novell (as of a few weeks ago ... but it
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isn't working completely right yet---it seems to have problems connecting
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to our Suns via TCP/IP). Token ring? Yeah, right.... We don't even
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have anything remotely IBM-ish anywhere in sight.
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Oh, btw, if I were posting from there (which I don't---most of our computer
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equipment, and our network, is GFE, and posts to comp.linux newsgroups are
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not likely to fall under the appropriate-use rules ... so I don't even
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have col.* on our newsfeed) I would be posting from the .af.mil domain,
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not the .edu domain. Oh, all of my professional employment has been in
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the ``commercial environment'' (i.e., not .edu, etc.).....
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I guess my point is, don't try to speak for the entire commercial world
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based on the environment *YOU* happen to work in.
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Later,
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--jim
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