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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Wed, 28 Sep 94 19:13:16 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #839
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Linux-Misc Digest #839, Volume #2 Wed, 28 Sep 94 19:13:16 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: New Linux Distribution (Dan Newcombe)
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Re: [ppp] (Al Longyear)
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Re: New User HOWTO proposal (Matt Welsh)
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Re: Word Processor Project: What happened? (Ulrich Cyrus)
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Re: New Linux Distribution (Charles Blair)
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Re: Maple V for linux! (Shannon Hendrix)
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Re: Hmmm (Bjorn Kihlberg)
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Re: Contrib. $s for Linux Dev (Drew Eckhardt)
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Re: pkzip for dos? (Peter Suetterlin)
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Re: which is better: Mitsumi or Panasonic CDROM? (Beeblebrox)
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News readers for SL/ip (Ian Colquhoun)
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Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz. (Valery Petrov)
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Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz. (Valery Petrov)
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Re: 256 colors on laptop X (Charlie Krasic)
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Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz. (Valery Petrov)
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Re: Linux on a 386 (Jim Sun)
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Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz. (Orc)
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From: newcombe@aa.csc.peachnet.edu (Dan Newcombe)
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Subject: Re: New Linux Distribution
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Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 15:21:01 UNDEFINED
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In article <36ber3$4ht@gandalf.rutgers.edu> madrid@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Juana Moreno) writes:
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> - Defaults to SINGLE USER mode. No need to show the complications
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> of multiuser accounts to newbies who will likely use it
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> personally.
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Hell...why not make it single process mode.
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> - Only one shell: bash, with lots of aliases that match as closely
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> as possible the COMMAND.COM commands and the utilities in
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> the DOS directory. Maybe it won't be very difficult to
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> include a .BAT->.sh translator.
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Also, rename vmlinuz to COMMAND.COM
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> - Only enough utilities to match the functionality of the DOS
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> standard utilities plus the major unix winners like
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> grep, awk and sed. (But not vi or emacs!!!).
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But you should put something like JED there to replace dos EDIT.
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> - NO NETWORKING, except for maybe a terminal program (minicom) and
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> a mostly configured SLIP (client side only). In that case,
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> maybe Mosaic should be also included.
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Most definatly, as everyone knows that you use windows to connect to the
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information superhighway.
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> -NO SCSI. Most home dos-win users don't even know what SCSI is.
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Not completly true. The higher end systems sometimes come with SCSI.
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> -XFree 3.1 configured to use the VGA16 server (mono or color) with
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> a generic (low resolution) Xconfig.
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And don't foget to use a large font size.
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> - Utilities to match the standard Windows applets:
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> Winfile -> Xfm-1.3
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> Progman -> Xfm-1.3
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> Notepad -> Axe (?)
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> Write -> Ez
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> Terminal -> Minicom (Seyon?)
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> Mediaplay -> ?????
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> Dos windows -> Xterm,rxvt (of course !!!)
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> Whatelse???
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Of course, you'll have to include xpm so you can have all sorts of colorful
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pixmaps. Also a dynamic utility to convert .ico's to .xpm's would help.
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Soundrec should be easy to find a replacement for.
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Mediaplay could be replaced by xanim
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Paintbrush by xpaint
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calender by some x prog (xcal?)
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Include some stupid incomprehensiable and unused program to replace Object
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Packer
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Tons of bitmaps for the background.
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A graphical interface to xkeysym to replace key mapper.
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Through in xsc and they'll think they're getting Lotus for free.
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> - Only one window manager: FVWM
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Don't know....maybe you would need to disable the popup menus and set it up so
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that ctrl-esc will bring up the window list, and alt-esc will cycle through.
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> - The binaries should fit (gzipped) in 10 1.44 floppies.
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Don't forget to add this to the login scripts for that genuine dos look:
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PS1=C:`pwd|sed s/'\/'/'\\'/g`\>
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--
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Dan Newcombe newcombe@aa.csc.peachnet.edu
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-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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"And the man in the mirror has sad eyes." -Marillion
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From: longyear@netcom.com (Al Longyear)
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Subject: Re: [ppp]
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Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 11:46:24 GMT
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pp000547@interramp.com writes:
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> As the moment, I am connected to nntp.interramp.com via PPP.
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> I am thinking about moving my PPP account to another server that I will
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>call `snarf.com'.
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> As far as I can tell, the only thing different about the way I now
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>interface with interramp.com via PPP and the way I am supposed to
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>interface with snarf.com is that interramp.com assigns me a "dynamic"
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>IP address each time I dial in, whereas snarf.com has "loaned" me a
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>fixed IP address.
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They both work the same way. If snarf.com is configured properly then you
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could use the identical options.
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> So, since the various scripts that I am using with interramp.com work
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>nicely, I simply copied them all into another directory and modified them to
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>suit snarf.com.
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> However, when I try to connect to snarf.com, the negotiations get
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>bogged down and (I think) my end of the negotiations eventually loses
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>patience and quits.
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> Here is the tail-end of the log:
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> ...
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>Sep 27 01:44:36 bedlam pppd[651]: fsm_sdata(LCP): Sent code 1, id 1.
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>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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>Sep 27 01:44:36 bedlam pppd[651]: Timeout 2194:10910 in 3 seconds.
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>Sep 27 01:44:36 bedlam pppd[651]: Setting itimer for 3 seconds in
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>timeout.
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>Sep 27 01:44:36 bedlam pppd[651]: LCP: sending Configure-Request, id 1
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>Sep 27 01:44:39 bedlam pppd[651]: Alarm
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>Sep 27 01:44:39 bedlam pppd[651]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
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><magic 0x8e417aab> <pcomp> <accomp>]
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There is no one listening at the other end. Notice that the id number
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does not increment. It keeps sending the "hello, I want to talk to
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you. Is anyone there?" (LCP-request) frame. This is sent every three
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seconds. Unfortnately, there is no one home at the other end.
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Your remote end is not running ppp. In fact, it is not doing much of
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anything. You need to talk to the snarf.com admin people and get the
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proper login script or something.
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>Sep 27 01:44:39 bedlam pppd[651]: LCP: sending Configure-Request, id 1
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>----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>Sep 27 01:44:42 bedlam pppd[651]: Alarm
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>Sep 27 01:44:42 bedlam pppd[651]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
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>Sep 27 01:44:42 bedlam pppd[651]: Connection terminated.
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>Sep 27 01:44:42 bedlam pppd[651]: Exit.
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"Oh well. Since there is no one listening then I think that I'll quit
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now. I have tried 10 times without a howdy in reply."
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> Here is what is in the two directories I mentioned:
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This is not important for this problem.
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PAP and CHAP protocols are not exhchanged until the LCP protocol is processed.
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The remote is not even doing that. Check out the remote.
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Al Longyear longyear@netcom.com
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From: mdw@cs.cornell.edu (Matt Welsh)
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Subject: Re: New User HOWTO proposal
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Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 15:11:09 GMT
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In article <merriman.20.015A5865@metronet.com> merriman@metronet.com (David K. Merriman) writes:
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>In light of the experiences I've had getting Linux installed and configured,
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>I'd like to offer to write a Linux New Users HOWTO.
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Your idea is a good one, but I fear that such a HOWTO would be
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extremely long. You want to cover everything from shells to
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man pages to editors to kernel compliations. This is essentially
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what has been done in the I&GS, which covers these things and more.
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You can't condense this information considerably, and if you try
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to do so you'll lose the content. What's wrong with the I&GS?
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Miscellaneous tips, tricks, and so forth are already covered in the
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Tips-HOWTO, by Vince reed (reedv@rpi.edu). Please send that information
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to him. I'd rather see people updating the current HOWTOs instead
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of trying to preempt what we already have.
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Thanks,
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mdw
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From: cyrus@virusdd.GUN.de (Ulrich Cyrus)
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Crossposted-To: alt.flame
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Subject: Re: Word Processor Project: What happened?
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Date: 25 Sep 1994 12:02:42 +0100
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Lars Hofhansl (lars@hboix1.enet.dec.com) wrote:
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: In article <1994Aug23.181008.19079@taylor.infi.net>, mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis) writes:
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: >
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: [...]
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: >
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: >You can run Unix WordPerfect right now using the Linux IBCS emulation code...
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: >It supports both text and X (GUI WYSIWUG) out of the box. Cost is about
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: >$299
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: >
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: Go and get "andrew" from sunsite. It's wysiwyg, it's good, it's fast, and it's
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: for free.
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: sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/X11/andrew/...
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and it does not support umlauts in a reasonable way (no way to input with
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german Xmodmap directly - only by pressing strange key-kombinations :(
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regards, Ulrich
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--
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=============================================================================
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Ulrich Cyrus Voice+FAX: ++49-203-735154 cyrus@virusdd.GUN.de
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Fliederstr. 169, 47055 Duisburg, Germany hg926cy@unidui.uni-duisburg.de
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/earth is 98% full - please delete any unused to free up space!
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From: ceblair@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Charles Blair)
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Subject: Re: New Linux Distribution
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Date: 28 Sep 1994 15:24:43 GMT
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I suspect a lot of novice users never use sed and awk, and that many
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more use vi.
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From: shendrix@escape.widomaker.com (Shannon Hendrix)
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Subject: Re: Maple V for linux!
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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 00:35:55 GMT
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swein@csc.albany.edu (Scott Weinstein) writes:
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>I havn't seen anything on the newsgroups about this... Maple V is
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>available for Linux. It looks and runs just like the Solaris version.
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>The binaries are not staticly linked and the entire installation takes
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>up 24 MB. I'm impressed.
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Where do you get it? How much?
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--
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csh
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shendrix@escape.widomaker.com | Linux... that's it for the moment
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Crossposted-To: alt.fan.linus-torvalds
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From: psybk@pew.psy.gu.se (Bjorn Kihlberg)
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Subject: Re: Hmmm
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Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 14:17:14 GMT
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Chris (e8ne@amalthea.sun.csd.unb.ca) wrote:
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: Jeez - I hadn't realized that Linus had such a loyal following ;)
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: Chris
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But of course! Not anyone would get the idea to start a new .NIX (*NUX?) and
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manage to make it better than all the others combined! :)
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--
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====================================================================
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Bjorn Kihlberg | email: bk@psy.gu.se
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(C) All Copyrighted | bjorn@trillium.se
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From: drew@frisbee.cs.Colorado.EDU (Drew Eckhardt)
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Subject: Re: Contrib. $s for Linux Dev
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Date: 26 Sep 1994 18:41:44 GMT
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In article <1994Sep26.152725.11875@imec.be>,
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Steven Buytaert <buytaert@imec.be> wrote:
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>J.J. Paijmans (paai@kub.nl) wrote:
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>: As for the Great Linus himself: we have to decide yet what to do and how,
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>: but I think dutch or belgian beer will be involved somewhere.
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> Go for the Belgian beer. I can give you a few tips there. But beware,
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> 3 pints of 'Duvel' and the next kernel release will take 3 days extra :-)%
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Duvel's is pretty yummy, although a bit pricey. Lindeman's Kriek is
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nice too, although I don't think Lambics should be considered beer.
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Otherwise, we don't get too much Belgian beer arround here.
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If you can settle for beers from other nationalities, I'd have to
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recommend Sam Smith's Oatmeal Stout and Taddy Porter, McEwan's
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Scotch Ale, New Castle Brown Ale, and Sam Adams Cream Stout.
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There are also plenty of local microbreweries in the states which
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have very tasty beers, with personal favorites being cask conditioned like
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the Walnut Brewery's Cask Conditioned James and Wilderness Pub's Cask
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Conditioned Stout. Other local favorites are Colorado Kind Ale from
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the Mountain Sun Pub and Brewery (very hoppy), Extra Special Bitter,
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etc.
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For light beers, I'd have to go with Sierra Nevada Pale,
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the Walnut Brewery's Buffalo Gold Ale, or Breckenridge Brewery's
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India Pale Ale.
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--
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Since our leaders won't respect The Constitution, the highest law of our
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country, you can't expect them to obey lesser laws of any country.
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Boycott the United States until this changes.
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From: ps@kis.uni-freiburg.de (Peter Suetterlin)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Re: pkzip for dos?
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Date: 28 Sep 1994 13:46:42 GMT
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Rob Janssen (rob@pe1chl.ampr.org) wrote:
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: In <940927155727.22203be1@CHIP.FNAL.GOV> DABOUS@CHIP.FNAL.GOV writes:
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: >Hi All,
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: >Does Linux have a utility to pkunzip DOS .zip files? If yes, would
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: >you tell what site it is on?
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: Yes it does. It is called "unzip" and you should find it on all the
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: usual Linux sites.
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: Rob
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What's about unzipping multi-volume pkZIP-files? Until now the only way
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to unzip them was using dosemu. Or am I missing something?
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================== Peter 'PIT' Suetterlin =================
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| Kiepenheuer Institut | Sternfreunde Breisgau e.V |
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| fuer Sonnenphysik | |
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| 0761/3198-210 | 0761/71571 |
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-<ps@kis.uni-freiburg.de>-<suettpet@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>--
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From: M.S.Ashton@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Beeblebrox)
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Subject: Re: which is better: Mitsumi or Panasonic CDROM?
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Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 19:30:04 GMT
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Eberhard_Moenkeberg@p27.rollo.central.de (Eberhard Moenkeberg) writes:
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>The specs are lying. The Panasonic is faster than the Mitsumi.
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What evidence do you have for that ?
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---
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M.S.Ashton@dcs.warwick.ac.uk M.S.Ashton@csv.warwick.ac.uk
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"I follow your steps in snow, the traces disappear.
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We know what we've lost when it's gone, I'm wishing you were here."
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From: ianc@bonk.io.org (Ian Colquhoun)
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Subject: News readers for SL/ip
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Date: 27 Sep 1994 02:33:19 GMT
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Thanks for the help guys... I tried using rtin -n but it didn't seem to make a
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substantial enough difference for me. For now I'll just log in to my shell
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server and read news from there!
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Ian
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(ianc@io.org)
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Subject: Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz.
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From: lera@zeus.chem.wvu.edu (Valery Petrov)
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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 17:50:23 GMT
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In article <ianm.780340433@miles>, ianm@qualcomm.com (Ian McCloghrie) writes:
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|> lera@zeus.chem.wvu.edu (Valery Petrov) writes:
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|> >the price difference (similarly equipped SGI is ~3 times more expensive)
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|> >I wonder who whould like to buy those Indigos nowdays.
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|>
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|> (in the future, please try to use lines < 70 characters long)
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|>
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|> The reason people buy Indigos (and SGIs in general) is not to have
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|> general CPU compute servers. The reason, quite simply, is graphics.
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|> (Yup, that's what the 'G' in SGI stands for). The amount of graphics
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|> rendering hardware one can get in an SGI is more than just about any
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|> other off-the-shelf workstation, certainly more than in a PC.
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|> Combine this with their GL 3-d graphics libraries, and you've got a
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|> system for doing really really nice graphics programming.
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You are right about graphics rendering hardware. It costs also certainly
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more then any PC video card. Unfortunately it is highly specific to the
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3-D polygon manipulations and has very moderate speedup for X applications.
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I measured 85 KXstones on my Indigo R-4000 with XZ videocard ($3000 option).
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You can get comparable X performance with ~$100 worth S3 videocard under
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XFree.
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3-D GL libraries is also freely available for Linux and they are
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almost compatible with Silicon Graphics GL format.
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Valery Petrov
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Nonlinear Dynamics Research Group
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Department of Chemistry
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West Virginia University
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Subject: Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz.
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From: lera@zeus.chem.wvu.edu (Valery Petrov)
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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 17:58:29 GMT
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In article <1994Sep24.144514.6157@cs.wm.edu>, haas@phonon.physics.wm.edu (Chree Haas) writes:
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|> Bill Broadley (broadley@turing.ucdavis.edu) wrote:
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|> : : You should note the the Indy has a MIPS R4600 processor, which is
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|> : : much faster than Pentium. Also, the SCSI Drive is faster and more
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|> : : expandable than the Dell IDE. Overall, the Indy will have much
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|> : : higher throughput and lower price/performance.
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|> BTW, when you ran the benchmark, did you add the -mips2 to the command
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|> line for the SGI? That can easily make a 5-10% speedup in the code over
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|> the default -mips1 option. BUT I don't know what using a pentium optimized
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|> compilers effects would be...
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|>
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|> Chree
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Of course I set -mips2 option while compiling. I don't have SGI with R4600
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available to test it, but according to the specs it is slower then P5-90. R4400 is
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faster but it costs much more then P5-90.
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Valery.
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From: buck@wic.waterloo.shl.com (Charlie Krasic)
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Subject: Re: 256 colors on laptop X
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Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 14:50:06 GMT
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In article <369k0e$dl6@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> gmarzot@whaler.wellfleet.com () writes:
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> VGA16 seems to be the only mode detected by X when I start up on an NEC
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> UltraLite. I looked at the sample Xconfigs and found that the toshiba
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> laptop only listed VGA16 as well. Is there some inherent limitation here
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> or can I get 256 colors on my laptop? I know it can handle it since
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> windows runs with 256 colors.
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The original Ultralite Versa uses a Chips and Technologies chipset.
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XFree86 doesn't support that chipset, so the only server that works is
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the generic VGA16 server. It is extremely slow and you run out of
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colours real fast.
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The Versa E's have a Western Digital chipset which is supported and
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works _very_ nicely in 256 colour mode. It can also drive an external
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monitor at 1024x768 in 256 colours which is nice too. :)
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Don't know about the Versa 'S' models.
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-- Buck
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Subject: Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz.
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From: lera@zeus.chem.wvu.edu (Valery Petrov)
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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 18:19:03 GMT
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In article <2966@nikhefh.nikhef.nl>, h28@nikhef.nl (Andres Kruse) writes:
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|> In article <CwJE4z.MGs@cerc.wvu.edu> lera@zeus.chem.wvu.edu (Valery Petrov) writes:
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|> >Some benchmarks comparison:
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|> >
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|> > DELL XPS-90 SGI with R4000 cpu (100MHz):
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|> >Integer: 19.2 sec. 23.3 sec.
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|> >Floating point: 200 sec. 199 sec.
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|> >
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|>
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|> Oh yeah? What about SGIs superb graphics ?
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I've tested it with Xbench and got 85 KXstones - compare it to 250 KX of #9 GXE
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card on DELL XPS-90.
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|> can put 256MB RAM in them (and it works! (have you ever seen a PC
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|> with > 64MB?))
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Personaly I don't have that much money but I've seen 128 MB is a standart for P5
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motherboards.
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|> What if you want to develop code which runs then in parallel on SGI Challenges ?
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Power C costs you $5000. Are you gonna spend that much to have a possibility to
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run this code on Challenges ?
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|> Remember that the Indigo is the low end of a rather big line of workstations.
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|> R4000SC is actually a processor which is already 2 years old and obsolete.
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|> The processor you should be comparing to is R4400@150Mhz which can be up
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|> to two times as fast depending on your code.
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I think it would be atmost 1.5 times faster, since bus still runs at 50 MHz.
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|> And if you were using R8000
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|> your floating point speed would be almost four times as fast (looking
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|> at the SPEC FP92 numbers (Intel 815/100: ~80, PowerChallenge R8000: ~310).
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And how much machine with R8000 costs? It was ~$50,000 last year.
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I can buy 10 Peniums for that money and organize Parallel Virtual
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Machine that would be faster then R8000.
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Valery Petrov.
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Nonlinear Dynamics Research Group.
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Department of Chemistry.
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West Virginia University.
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From: jsun@athena.mit.edu (Jim Sun)
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Subject: Re: Linux on a 386
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Date: 28 Sep 1994 22:52:16 GMT
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jeffpk@netcom.com (Jeff Kesselman) wrote:
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>Note however that NOT all 486's are equal. The IBM
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>blue-lightening 486 for instance, is really a 386 with improved caching.
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>it does NOt have the improved micrcode and runs somewhere btw a 386 and 486
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>in performance....
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The first sentence is correct; the remainder are misinformation at best.
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IBM's SLC and DLC processors are indeed merely improved 386s; however, the
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BlueLightenings are true 486-class processors; they use the 486 architecture
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provided by Intel itself (such as BL75) or Cyrix (such as BLDX2-66).
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Jim
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From: orc@pell.com (Orc)
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Subject: Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz.
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Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 18:04:08 GMT
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In article <364o5j$2upc@yuma.acns.colostate.edu>,
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Larry Pyeatt <pyeatt@cervesa.cs.colostate.edu> wrote:
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>Your belief is not based in reality. Apparently you did not call Dell
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>as I suggested. Did you not even read my post? I read the add in
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>Computer shopper and then called Dell to get a price quote.
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Well, even workstation owners occasionally go and get bids from
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other suppliers when the workstation vendor charges too much for
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add-in components. Buying an ethernet card from Dell for $450 is
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like buying extra winchesters from SGI without bothering to look
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at the third-party vendors.
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____
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david parsons \bi/ If I wanted to be locked into proprietary standards
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\/ I'd buy a 4341 or Atari ST.
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