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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 94 09:13:27 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #856
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Linux-Misc Digest #856, Volume #2 Sat, 1 Oct 94 09:13:27 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: New Linux Distribution (Andreas Helke)
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Re: Hmmm (Michael O'Reilly)
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Re: Copyright and licensing - a plea to software authors (Craig Milo Rogers)
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Re: Ada Compiler for Linux (Paul Quinn)
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Re: sqrt function undefined? (Ian-Michael Gough)
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Re: QNX, Linux, or 386BSD? (Lee Hounshell)
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Re: kcore [Q] (David Barr)
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Re: IP Addresses For Standalone LAN (Jay Ashworth)
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Re: IP Addresses For Standalone LAN (Jay Ashworth)
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Re: CD-ROM with /pub/Linux tree of SUNSITE? (Jay Ashworth)
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Re: Hmmm (Tracy R. Reed)
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Re: Maple V for Linux (Dave Michelson)
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Midi Player for linux? (Solomon White)
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Re: Linux goes commercial (Michael K. Johnson)
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Re: [Q] SW Technology (Bill Broadley)
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Linux Dialback software anywhere? (Rutger van de GeVEL)
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Re: How to pronounce Linux?? (Jim Graham)
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how to set up my Linux box as a GATEWAY? (Donald Burr)
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Re: Next InfoMagic Linux CD's? (ACC Corp.)
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Re: PROBLEM with console (Cornelius Krasel)
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Re: New Linux Distribution (David K. Merriman)
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From: andreas@orion.mgen.uni-heidelberg.de (Andreas Helke)
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Subject: Re: New Linux Distribution
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Date: 30 Sep 1994 18:07:49 GMT
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Steven Pritchard (spritcha@nyx10.cs.du.edu) wrote:
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: sasewt@tarrant.unx.sas.com (Erik Troan) writes:
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: >DOS doesn't have "rm -rf /".
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: "deltree /y \*.*"
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: Of course, that's probably not a bad thing. :)
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DOS does not ship with rm, but many implementations of this nice program are
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available. You can make DOS look exactly like a unix shell with some
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tweaking. Shell scripts instead of batch file etc. Batch files can only be
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run by giving their name as parameter to command.com. The illusion only
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breaks down if you hit the 640 K barrier or if you try to use the & operator
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or want to fork a process or try to use a filename with 2 points in it.
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Andreas
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--
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* Andreas Helke Institut fuer molekulare Genetik, Universitaet Heidelberg
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** Im Neuenheimer Feld 230, 69122 Heidelberg, Germany
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*** If you want ls, cp, dd or a Korn shell clone for DOS computers ftp to
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**** orion.mgen.uni-heidelberg.de the home of the HFM DOS file manager
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From: michael@iinet.com.au (Michael O'Reilly)
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Crossposted-To: alt.fan.linus-torvalds
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Subject: Re: Hmmm
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Date: 30 Sep 1994 13:31:06 +0800
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Mitchum DSouza (Mitchum.DSouza@mrc-apu.cam.ac.uk) wrote:
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: Hey I'm a fan. Have been so since 0.10. Im sure everyone else joined
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: a bit more recently.
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Not everyone. :) I read thru .10, and started running it at .11. Those
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were the days. None of these newfangled things like pageing, or
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networking, or login's etc.
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The REAL thing. When free memory pages were found by searching
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linearly thru memory . ;) (Linus, you reading this? Remember when that
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was pointed out? :)
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Michael.
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: See ya
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: Mitch
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--
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Michael O'Reilly @ iiNet Technologies, Internet Service providers.
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Voice (09) 307 1183, Fax (09) 307 8414. Email michael@iinet.com.au
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GCS d? au- a- v* c++ UL++++ L+++ E po--(+) b+++ D++ h* r++ u+
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e+ m+ s+++/--- !n h-- f? g+ w t-- y+
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From: rogers@drax.isi.edu (Craig Milo Rogers)
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Subject: Re: Copyright and licensing - a plea to software authors
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Date: 29 Sep 1994 21:39:12 -0700
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[Note: I am not a lawyer. The following is not legal advice.]
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In article <36etmr$114@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> tytso@MIT.EDU writes:
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> Sure, because the copyright for B says that if you use it, you're
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> making a derivation, and copyright law says that you can control the
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> use of derivations.
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>
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>Sorry, the definition of "dervitive work" is defined in the copyright law,
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>not in the GPL. So is the definition of "fair use".
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Consider the following sentence from section 2 of GPL2:
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These requirements apply to the modified work as a whole. If
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identifiable sections of that work are not derived from the Program,
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and can be reasonably considered independent and separate works in
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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themselves, then this License, and its terms, do not apply to those
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^^^^^^^^^^
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sections when you distribute them as separate works.
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RMS has claimed, in gnu.misc.discuss article
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<9307130434.AA01666@mole.gnu.ai.mit.edu>, that he (paraphrasing)
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considers use to be derivation, in certain circumstances, such as when
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no non-GPLed code exists that gives the same interface as the GPLed
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code under consideration. In the same article, however, he gives a
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specific definition for the phrase "interface copyright"; since the
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FSF's usage retrictions don't fit that definition, then by golly, the
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FSF is not pursuing an "interface copyright".
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The next questions are whether "independent" and "separate"
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have generally accepted meanings in Copyright law, and whether the FSF
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has some wriggle room through this phrase.
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Note also that RMS' expressed interpretation of the GPL gives
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the implication that there may exist works (which at some time have
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been subsections of some whole work incorporating a GPLed Program)
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that are not derived from the GPLed Program, but which are not
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"reasonably separate and independent" of the GPLed Program; GPL2 is
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applied to these subsections via the sentence above (in spite of the
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fact that the subsections are not themselves derived from any GPLed
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code). This gives rise to the observation that the GPL may be a virus
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that can infect non-GPLed code.
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Craig Milo Rogers
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From: p_quinn@ECE.Concordia.CA (Paul Quinn)
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Subject: Re: Ada Compiler for Linux
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Date: 28 Sep 1994 20:49:36 GMT
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In article <891@dprmpt.dataprompt.com> dpss@dprmpt.dataprompt.com (Shujaat Siddiqui) writes:
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>I am looking for Ada compiler on linux. I read somewhere, there is such thing
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>but I missed to save the information. I will really appreciate it, if someone
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>will post information for how to get the Ada compiler for Linux.
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>
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>Thanks in Adavance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>
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Try ftp'ing sunsite.unc.edu in the pub/Linux/devel directory.
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--
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________
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Paul Quinn
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p_quinn@ece.concordia.ca
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Computer Science: Systems Architecture
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Concordia University
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Montreal, QC, CANADA
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========
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From: gough@c11.s1.elec.uq.oz.au (Ian-Michael Gough)
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Subject: Re: sqrt function undefined?
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Date: 28 Sep 1994 03:39:22 GMT
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krw@sprint.uccs.edu.uccs.edu (Kenneth R Whittaker) writes:
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>I have a problem.
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>#include <math.h>
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>user sqrt function.
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>When I compile I get
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>/tmp/cca109321.o: Undefined symbol _sqrt referenced from text segment
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Hi Ken! I had the same problem using the pow() function from
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the math library. You need to include a '-lm' on your command line
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so that the math library is linked in.
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e.g. gcc -o myprogram myprogram.c -lm
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this should fix it for you.
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Mick.
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gough@s1.elec.uq.oz.au
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From: lee@tcs.com (Lee Hounshell)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.os.386bsd.misc
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Subject: Re: QNX, Linux, or 386BSD?
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Date: 28 Sep 1994 01:59:08 GMT
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Dan Pop (danpop@cernapo.cern.ch) wrote:
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: In <3680r1$dlu@girtab.usc.edu> plin@girtab.usc.edu (Po-Han Lin) writes:
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: >If one has a pc compatible with a 486, which OS is the best unix
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: >operating system? QNX, Linux, or 386BSD?
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: You forgot to tell us what you mean by "the best unix operating system".
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: Or specify a method of comparing two OS's. So, your question is
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: meaningless.
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I've been wondering the same thing. I'm developing a distributed
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fuzzy neural network (using RPC, and TCPIP, and Internet) with a fancy
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X-windows interface. It is intended to be portable and eventually run
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on a variety of platforms, including PC's... assuming they ever
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adopt a native multi-tasking OS. Anyway, I need a good unix development
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environment, that's also cheap. I've lot's of experience with
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SunOS and SysV-R4, but know virtually nothing aobut QNX, Linux, and FreeBSD.
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Because the eventual target market is "everyman", I can't select an
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expensive, development environment, like NextStep or SunOS, unless I can
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ensure easy portability to "free" unix and PC machines later. The
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programming is being done using C++. Networking hooks are required.
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recommendations anyone? (please support your position, also)
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Thanks.
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-Lee
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lee@tcs.com
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From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Re: kcore [Q]
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Date: 30 Sep 1994 14:36:33 -0400
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In article <199409301555.LAA24471@freenet.carleton.ca>,
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Frank J. Potolo <av643@freenet.carleton.ca> wrote:
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>I have a 16M file in /proc/kcore. Is it ok to delete it?
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You can, but you won't get 16M of space back. It's not a 16M
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file. (no, honest, it's not. Look closely)
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--Dave
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From: jra@zeus.IntNet.net (Jay Ashworth)
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Subject: Re: IP Addresses For Standalone LAN
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Date: 27 Sep 1994 21:51:39 -0400
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dangit@netcom.com (Lam Dang) writes:
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>I have set up an IP net of several nodes at home. Following general
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>conventions, they're given the addresses 192.0.0.1, 192.0.0.5, and
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>192.0.0.9. At least one of these addresses (.1) already exists on the
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>Internet. If this one is connected via PPP to a node on the Internet, it
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>must be given another address to avoid confusion.
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Actually, 0 is an invalid component of a node number. It is the broadcast
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address in BSD4.2, so it's a bad idea to try to use it on a machine, not
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to mention violating RFC 791 and the host requirements one...
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>Are there IP addresses set aside for standalone LANs? Where are they
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>documented?
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ftp to rs.internic.net, cd netinfo, ftp internet-number-template.txt.
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They'll be happy to assign you a network number. Or, your internet
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provider may have netblocks already allocated.
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<soapbox on>
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RFC 1597 suggests a solution for _unconnected_ internets (which yours is
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_NOT_). Ignore it. The authors are out of their collective minds. See
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RFC 1627 for a rebuttal.
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<soapbox off>
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Cheers,
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-- jra
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--
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Jay R. Ashworth High Technology Systems Comsulting Ashworth
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Designer Linux: The Choice of a GNU Generation & Associates
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ka1fjx/4
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jra@baylink.com "Hey! Do any of you guys know how to Madison?" 813 790 7592
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From: jra@zeus.IntNet.net (Jay Ashworth)
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Subject: Re: IP Addresses For Standalone LAN
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Date: 27 Sep 1994 21:53:03 -0400
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longyear@netcom.com (Al Longyear) writes:
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>dangit@netcom.com (Lam Dang) writes:
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>>I have set up an IP net of several nodes at home. Following general
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>>conventions, they're given the addresses 192.0.0.1, 192.0.0.5, and
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>>192.0.0.9. At least one of these addresses (.1) already exists on the
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>>Internet. If this one is connected via PPP to a node on the Internet, it
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>>must be given another address to avoid confusion.
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>>Are there IP addresses set aside for standalone LANs? Where are they
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>>documented?
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>From RFC 1597 . . . .
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Al... with all due respect...
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...he said he was connecting his LAN to the Net. 1597 doesn't apply here...
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not that I think it applies _ANYWHERE_, but don't get me started.
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Cheers,
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-- jra
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--
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Jay R. Ashworth High Technology Systems Comsulting Ashworth
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Designer Linux: The Choice of a GNU Generation & Associates
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ka1fjx/4
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jra@baylink.com "Hey! Do any of you guys know how to Madison?" 813 790 7592
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From: jra@zeus.IntNet.net (Jay Ashworth)
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Subject: Re: CD-ROM with /pub/Linux tree of SUNSITE?
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Date: 27 Sep 1994 21:56:49 -0400
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cmsa@softsousa.pt (Carlos Antunes) writes:
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>Do you know of any CD-ROM that has the complete /pub/Linux tree directory
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>has seen in Sunsite?
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I have the InfoMagic Developers Resource set on order. Sunsite, tsx-11,
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and 6 distributions and a file system, including a Slackware from a tape
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direct from Volkerding.
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$20.
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They sold out 10000 of them last month... order early. (Hey, Kim! Do I
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get a commission?)
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Tell Kim I sent you. ;-) 800-800-6613
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Cheers,
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-- jra
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--
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Jay R. Ashworth High Technology Systems Comsulting Ashworth
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Designer Linux: The Choice of a GNU Generation & Associates
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ka1fjx/4
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jra@baylink.com "Hey! Do any of you guys know how to Madison?" 813 790 7592
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From: treed@ucssun1.sdsu.edu (Tracy R. Reed)
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Crossposted-To: alt.fan.linus-torvalds
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Subject: Re: Hmmm
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Date: 29 Sep 1994 08:41:01 GMT
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Bjorn Kihlberg (psybk@pew.psy.gu.se) wrote:
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: Chris (e8ne@amalthea.sun.csd.unb.ca) wrote:
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: : Jeez - I hadn't realized that Linus had such a loyal following ;)
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: But of course! Not anyone would get the idea to start a new .NIX (*NUX?) and
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: manage to make it better than all the others combined! :)
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I can see it now...
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"Linus has left the building...Linus has left the building..."
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Hehehe
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Mr. Tracy Reed |The first atom says, "Help! I've lost an electron!"
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San Diego State Univ. |The second says, "Are you sure?"
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Aerospace Engineering |The first says, "I'm positive!"
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treed@ucssun1.sdsu.edu |
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treed@tbn-bbs.com |
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=============================================================================
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From: davem@ee.ubc.ca (Dave Michelson)
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Subject: Re: Maple V for Linux
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Date: 29 Sep 1994 01:51:03 -0700
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In article <36d68u$17m3@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu>,
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DAVID L. JOHNSON <dlj0@Lehigh.EDU> wrote:
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>
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>it doesn't seem that out of line. Maybe on the upper edge, but not really
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>workstation pricing -- which we were afraid of.
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I agree. Waterloo Maple Software usually charges about $2000 for
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the UNIX version of Maple. At US$595 for Maple for Linux, they're
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charging exactly the same as for a full Windows version.
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However, it's still a lot of money :-(
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--
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Dave Michelson University of British Columbia
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davem@ee.ubc.ca Radar Remote Sensing Group
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From: whitesol@math.enmu.edu (Solomon White)
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Subject: Midi Player for linux?
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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 18:34:54 GMT
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--
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=======================================================================
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Solomon White
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whitesol@math.enmu.edu
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"When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail..."
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From: johnsonm@nigel.vnet.net (Michael K. Johnson)
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Subject: Re: Linux goes commercial
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Date: 27 Sep 1994 20:36:25 GMT
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Reply-To: johnsonm@nigel.vnet.net
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c-clark@freenet2.scri.fsu.edu (Champ Clark) writes:
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My boss swears up and down that he read somewhere that Linux
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is no longer going to be a "free" (when I say that, I mean,
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you dont have to buy it.. you can FTP it) anymore. He states
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that the author (linus) has decided to make "linux" a commerical
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product.
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He may well have read it, but not everything he reads is true.
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I promise you he didn't read it in Linux Journal
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1) Linus will make no such decision because he believes that
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putting Linux under the GPL is one of the best decisions he
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ever made. He said so in an interview in Linux Journal.
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2) Linux can't make that decision because the copyright to
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a large amount of the kernel is held by other people, some
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of which will not allow their code to be held under any copyright
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other than the GPL, and none of which would be pleased with
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a decision to go commercial.
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I have periodic postings to several usenet usegroups, including
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comp.os.linux.announce, comp.os.linux.misc, and news.answers
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which specifically state that Linux will always be free. Also,
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Linux Journal (of which I am the editor) has published several
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pieces relating to this, including the previously mentioned
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interview.
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He stated "nope,
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Linux itelf will go commerical... It will no longer be
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a public freeware/public domain OS, but a commercial OS",
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He is completely wrong. Well, not completely. It is not public
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domain now, and never will be. It is protected by the GNU copyleft,
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a copyright which *prohibits* people other than the copyright holder
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from limiting free distribution of the protected software. Since
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multiple people hold copyright on parts of the Linux kernel, and
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at least some of those people will not consider changing their
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copyrights, Linux will remain under the protection of the GPL.
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However, Linux will remain "freeware"; publically available at
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no charge. Please tell your boss he is free to send me email
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with any questions he has about this, and I'll answer him.
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michaelkjohnson
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From: broadley@turing.ucdavis.edu (Bill Broadley)
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Re: [Q] SW Technology
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Date: 30 Sep 1994 06:47:53 GMT
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: There is a guy in this news-group who was VERY unhappy with his experences
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: with this company, I believe. Look back through the posts of the last 2
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: weeks or so.
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A friend of mine ordered ALOT of stuff for SWT and is so far pretty happy.
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The guy who was complaining sounded like a very picky person who expected
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the BEST support, the BEST price, and a FREE completely comfigured bugless
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operating system. People shouldn't expect to get the absolute best
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price from the people with the least margins and then expect so much
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service.
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Said things like "I wasn't properly informed by SWT that when I switched
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to other consoles that my font could get corrupted."
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You can hardly blame SWT for such a bug, your not paying for the OS,
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SWT didn't write it, you can hardly expect SWT to keep a database
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of every bug and every quirk of linux.
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I believe another problem was caused by a seagate ST-01 controller which
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is widely regarded as unreliable, and shouldn't blame SWT for such
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problems.
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--
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Bill Broadley Broadley@math.ucdavis.edu UCD Math Sys-Admin
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Linux is great. http://ucdmath.ucdavis.edu/~broadley PGP-ok
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From: gevel@kub.nl (Rutger van de GeVEL)
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Subject: Linux Dialback software anywhere?
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Date: 1 Oct 1994 11:48:34 GMT
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Reply-To: rutger@kub.nl
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Hi all,
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Well, the subject says is all. I'm looking for dialback software for
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Linux. Does anyone know where to find is (or that it even exists)?
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Thanks in advance,
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Rutger
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From: jim@n5ial.mythical.com (Jim Graham)
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Subject: Re: How to pronounce Linux??
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Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 23:00:49 GMT
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In article <36c5r8$ggd@fungusaur.uu.net> rpark@uunet.uu.net (Richard Park)
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writes:
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>In article <36c3pv$41e@panix3.panix.com>,
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>S. Joel Katz <stimpson@panix.com> wrote:
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>>>Is there a correct pronunciation?
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>> There is a correct pronunciation and an incorrect pronunciation.
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>>The 'I' is short. Linux almost rhymes with 'shucks'. Or, if you prefer
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>>'Lih-nuhks'.
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>This is the topic of a religious war.
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It used to be....but it isn't now. Linus settled the issue once and for
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all early this year. Ftp a copy of english.au or swedish.au from sunsite
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(I don't remember the exact path...sorry). Then cat this file to
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/dev/audio (assuming you have your sound card and drivers installed).
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You will quite clearly hear Linus giving both the pronunciation of his name
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and of Linux (i.e., ``Hello, this is Linus Torvalds, and I pronounce Linux
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as Linux.''). It's Linux, as in a short 'i' sound (rhymes with ``in'').
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Actually, to me, it almost has a long 'e' sound---it's almost like a cross
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between a short 'i' and a long 'e'. The closest pronunciation for an
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American-English speaker is the short 'i' sound, though. The long 'i'
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pronunciation is completely out of the picture.
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Later,
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--jim
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--
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73 DE N5IAL (/4) < Running Linux 1.0.9 >
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jim@n5ial.mythical.com ICBM: 30.23N 86.32W
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|| j.graham@ieee.org Packet: N5IAL@W4ZBB (Ft. Walton Beach, FL)
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E-mail me for information about KAMterm (host mode for Kantronics TNCs).
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
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From: picard@beach.silcom.com (Donald Burr)
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Subject: how to set up my Linux box as a GATEWAY?
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Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 00:40:28 GMT
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Greetings, *.
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I've put together a little home network, consisting of several DOS PC's
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(running TCP/IP packages) and my Linux box. I have my own set of IP
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addresses assigned from the NIC (192.160.60.xxx, Class C).
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My Linux machine has a PPP connection (through a local Internet service
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provider) to the rest of the Internet.
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I would like my Linux box to act as a "gateway" between my local
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network, and the rest of the Internet.
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The details:
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All of my machines are assigned addresses in the 192.160.60.xxx range.
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My Internet service provider assigns my Linux box it's own address when
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it dials in -- usually something like 199.201.128.101.
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All of the DOS PC's are set so that they use my Linux box as the gateway
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(i.e. if you try to use an IP address not on the local network, it gets
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sent through the gateway).
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Picture of network setup:
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+------------------+
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| beach.silcom.com |
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| PPP provider |
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| Gateway to Inet |
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+------------------+
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| ppp0 over /dev/modem
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+--------------------------+
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| ncc-1701-d.starfleet.org |
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| Linux box w/eth0 and ppp0|
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+--------------------------+
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| eth0
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+-------------+
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| 10BaseT HUB |
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+-------------+
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/ | \
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/ | \
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+--------+ +--------+ +--------+
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| DOS PC | | DOS PC | | DOS PC |
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+--------+ +--------+ +--------+
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Can anyone help me out here? How do I set up my /etc/rc.d/* scripts,
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network configs (/etc/hosts, /etc/networks, etc.) for this configuration?
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Please respond by email (picard@silcom.com) -- thanks!
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--
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Donald Burr, ROCKWELL NETWORK SYSTEMS
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7402 Hollister Avenue, Goleta, CA 93117 (805)968-4262 x154
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EMAIL: dburr@rns.com // PAGER: 897-2809; type your phone number, then [#]
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Makers of the NETHOPPER router/modem -- email for more info!
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From: info@acc-corp.com (ACC Corp.)
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Subject: Re: Next InfoMagic Linux CD's?
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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 12:30:36 GMT
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In Article <199409290348.AA01658@kitana.org>, kitana!sysop@caprica.com (JL
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Gomez) wrote:
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>When will the next release of Linux InfoMagic CD set come out?
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>
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>I have the August version.
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You must have the June (Red) edition. They did not produce an August
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edition. Meantime Walnut Creek had an August release of their Linux
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Toolkit, is that what you have?
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Due to their move from NJ to AZ, their August edition has become their
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September edition, and even that has been delayed.
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We are currently being promised that the next edition will be delivered to
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us on October 10 from the factory.
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Cheers, Bob.
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ACC Bookstores
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"Home of the PC UNIX - Linux Catalog"
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1 (800) 546-7274
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info@acc-corp.com
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From: krasel@alf.biochem.mpg.de (Cornelius Krasel)
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Subject: Re: PROBLEM with console
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Date: 1 Oct 1994 12:31:15 GMT
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Carlos Dominguez (carlos@interport.net) wrote:
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: Bernd Eckenfels (ukd1@rzstud1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) wrote:
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: : xterm z.B. ist auch SUID Root, und mit xterm -C kann man sich die
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: : console anschauen!
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xterm, for example, is also SUID root, and by typing 'xterm -C' one can
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have a look at the console.
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--Cornelius (wonders why people crosspost from de.* to comp.*).
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--
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/* Cornelius Krasel, Abt. Lohse, Genzentrum, D-82152 Martinsried, Germany */
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/* email: krasel@alf.biochem.mpg.de fax: +49 89 8578 3795 */
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/* "People are DNA's way of making more DNA." (Edward O. Wilson, 1975) */
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From: merriman@metronet.com (David K. Merriman)
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Subject: Re: New Linux Distribution
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Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 23:56:33 GMT
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In article <36ber3$4ht@gandalf.rutgers.edu> madrid@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Juana Moreno) writes:
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>I have been thinking of putting up a new Linux distribution especially
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>oriented to DOS-Win dummies. I have taken a nontraditional approach and
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>am willing to sacrifice many of the sacred cows of Unix. I really think
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>that many features of traditional unix are not very useful in a typical
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>home pc context. However, clearly Linux has many advantages over Dos-Win
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>if care is taken for keeping a reasonably small distribution. That way,
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>Dos-Win users can discover the power of Linux without feeling overwhelmed.
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>I'd like to include a short and concise guide that highlights the major
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>differences between dos-win and Linux-Xfree86, something of the sort of
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>the book "Unix in a Nutshell" but much shorter. A possible title could be
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>"Unix (Linux) in a Pinhead: an introduccion to Unix for Dos users" (grin).
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>My distribution, tentatively called "WIn-dos Transition" (WIT), would have
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> - NO NETWORKING, except for maybe a terminal program (minicom) and
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> a mostly configured SLIP (client side only). In that case,
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> maybe Mosaic should be also included.
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PPP would be nice, too :-)
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> Notepad -> Axe (?)
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pico?
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>The idea is that this will not be the final Linux distribution that
|
|
>the users will have, but only a "transitional" distribution that lets
|
|
>them get the feeling of the power of Linux in an environment as much familiar
|
|
>to them as possible. Therefore, the distribution will be compatible with
|
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>Slackware "packages", so that an upgrade (when the fear is left behind) will
|
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>be very smooth.
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>Well, that's my idea. I'd like to hear comments before I start packaging
|
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>everything, because if you think this is useless I'd like to know before
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>I waste my time. All suggestions will be appreciated.
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'splain *everything*: what the functional equivalents are, how to use them,
|
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etc. This sounds like the kind of thing that I wish I'd had....
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Dave Merriman
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