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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Sat, 8 Oct 94 10:13:23 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #901
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Linux-Misc Digest #901, Volume #2 Sat, 8 Oct 94 10:13:23 EDT
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Contents:
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LINUX on an Mac Centris 610 DOS machine (Michelle Murrain)
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GCC for the ARM6 (Heinz Wolter)
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Re: Yggdrasil Linux Plug and Play CD ver1.1 ? (Jeff Kesselman)
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Re: Commercial software for Linux (Harald Milz)
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Re: Pixmaps (John Gotts)
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Re: Linux on a 386 (Wallace Roberts)
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Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be aware (Yan Xiao)
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Re: kermit on Linux CD - violates copyrights (Wallace Roberts)
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Re: 56.6 Kb simulated with 2 28.8Kb modems. Is it possible? (Bigfoot)
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Re: NYC Linux Meeting at Unix Expo - Tuesday O (Kevin Penrose)
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Re: X News-reader for LinuX (Marc Fraioli)
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Cnews - HELP!
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Re: Telnet & ftp freeze! - AND UNFREEZE KLUDGE (System Administrator)
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Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Irtegov Dmitry Valentinovich)
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Re: New Linux Distribution (Alexandra Griffin)
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Re: Mystery Chip...AMD (Daniel Zappala)
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From: mmurrain@hamp.hampshire.edu (Michelle Murrain)
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Subject: LINUX on an Mac Centris 610 DOS machine
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Date: 7 Oct 1994 19:41:04 GMT
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I'm strongly considering buying a used Macintosh Centris 610 DOS
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machine, which has a PC motherboard (486 SX/25) inside. Has anyone out
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there tried to install linux in this kind of machine? If so, were there
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any special hurdles you had to jump? I've been working with linux for a
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couple of months on a standard PC, but haven't ever installed it
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myself, so I guess that makes me a relative newbie. Thanks for any
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info.
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Michelle
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Michelle Murrain, Ph.D.
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School of Natural Science mmurrain@hamp.hampshire.edu
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Hampshire College mmurrain@family.hampshire.edu
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Amherst, MA 01002
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URL: http://www.hampshire.edu/Hampshire/ns/html/Murrain.html
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
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From: heinz@focus-systems.on.ca (Heinz Wolter)
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Subject: GCC for the ARM6
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Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 22:57:21 GMT
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Has anyone used the GCC to generate code for the ARM6 or may Acorn?
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I know this isn't strictly a linux question, but this is misc. and I
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found a bunch of references and files refering to the ARM2/3/6 codegen
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for GCC on my YGGdrassil linux cdrom...
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I've got a Newton and would like to find a way to compile for it using
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my linux boz rather than a macintoy of dos/winblows (whenever apple
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feels like getting off their butts and porting the NTK and CC to Intel..)
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thanks, heinz
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From: jeffpk@netcom.com (Jeff Kesselman)
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Subject: Re: Yggdrasil Linux Plug and Play CD ver1.1 ?
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Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 19:33:38 GMT
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In article <pbashCx5Mtv.C79@netcom.com>, Paul Bash <pbash@netcom.com> wrote:
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>In article <pbashCx5M60.AE0@netcom.com>, Paul Bash <pbash@netcom.com> wrote:
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>>
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>> 4) When attempting to auto-detect my modem and mouse, the install process
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>> detected the mouse on the port where my modem is attached and detected no
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>> modem _at all_. Even though Linux has been happily using this modem and
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>> mouse for the last year. The result was that I'm thrown onto the X desktop
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>> with no mouse but fvwm waiting for me to click the mouse button to indicate
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>> where I want it to place the Control Panel window. I'm given absolutely
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>> no chance to override what the install process detected. I have to
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>> reboot the system, manually edit the Xconfig file, and start again. Good
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>> thing I know where to find the Xconfig file. Many newcomers wouldn't. Nice.
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>>
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>
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>This is wrong. I went back and checked things and you _are_ given the option of
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>specifying your mouse port the first time you try to run X. The install process
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>still didn't locate my modem and still didn't give me an option to specify where
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>it was, but my X problems were probably just a product of my having a bad day.
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>
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>--
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>Paul Bash
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>pbash@netcom.com
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Oh good, 'cause this was the one point that really seemed to make no
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sense at all to me. Glad we sorted it out. Ignore please my comments
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thereon. :)
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Jeff Kesselman
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From: hm@ix.de (Harald Milz)
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Subject: Re: Commercial software for Linux
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Reply-To: hm@ix.de
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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 17:25:40 GMT
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In comp.os.linux.misc, Miguel A. Rozsas (miguel@dt.fee.unicamp.br) wrote:
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> I would like to know about commercial software for Linux.
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There's anew Commercial-HOWTO on sunsite. The hottest version is on
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ftp.ix.de:/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/Commercial-HOWTO (different formats
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incl. HTML).
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> I am looking for a SQL Database Manager and a COBOL compiler. Exists in PDS and proprietary solution ? Anyone can point me a anonymous ftp address that have Linux software ?
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Please consider to use your RETURN key from time to time ;^)
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There are several SQL packages. Roumours say there is a free COBOL compiler
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around. There's no commercial COBOL yet, but Acucobol is considering
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releasing a Linux version.
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--
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A LISP programmer knows the value of everything, but the cost of
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nothing.
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--
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Harald Milz (hm@ix.de) WWW: http://www.ix.de/editors/hm.html
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iX Multiuser Multitasking Magazine phone +49 (511) 53 52-377
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Helstorfer Str. 7, D-30625 Hannover fax +49 (511) 53 52-378
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Opinions stated herein are my own, not necessarily my employer's.
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From: john@jgotts.ccs.itd.umich.edu (John Gotts)
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Subject: Re: Pixmaps
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Date: 4 Oct 1994 05:52:30 GMT
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I believe the X FAQ lists several collections of pixmaps. Most of them are on
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ftp.x.org.
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--
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John Gotts (jgotts@umich.edu) 73 de N8QDW URL: http://www.umich.edu/~jgotts
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GE -d+ H s+: g-- p? !au a-- w+ v C++++ UL++++ P+>++ L++ 3- E--- N+++ K- !W M--
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V-- -po+(---) Y+ t+ 5 j+ R- G? tv b+ D B- e+ u--- h f+ r n- y? <Linux rules!>
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From: robertsw@agcs.com (Wallace Roberts)
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Subject: Re: Linux on a 386
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Date: 7 Oct 1994 13:32:29 -0700
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ianm@qualcomm.com (Ian McCloghrie) writes:
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[ ...snip happens... ]
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>When you get right down to it, an Intel 486 is really nothing more
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>than an improved 386 with a 387 thrown in for good measure.
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i think michael abrash would take issue with you on this one. :-)
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ah, but the devil's in the details of that little "improved" adjective,
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such as 8k internal cache vs 0k internal cache, improved microcode,
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improved pipeline, etc. plus, the 486's *internal* math coproc far
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outperforms the 386/387 combination.
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for example: when i first bought my 486dx/33 many moons ago, a friend of
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mine also purchased an amd 386dx/40. he suffered under the illusion that
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his 386 would be faster than my 486 for strictly integer work, since his
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cpu had the faster clock.
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he was not too pleased when his (strictly integer) benchmarks indicated
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my "slower" 486 was nearly twice as fast as his 386. btw, the machines
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were identical in all respects except for cpu, i.e., same manufacturer,
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same amount of cache, same amount of memory, etc.
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gears,
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ye wilde ryder
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--
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robertsw@agcs.com | 86 cr250 "dirt devil" 83 v65 magna "animal"
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"E Pluribus Unix" | 79 it250 "mr. reliable"
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"Criminals (especially tyrants) prefer unarmed victims."
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"Ignorance can be cured; stupidity, on the other hand, is hereditary."
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From: yxiao@umabnet.ab.umd.edu (Yan Xiao)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be aware
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Date: 07 Oct 1994 20:38:14 GMT
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We purchased Yggdrasil Fall 1994 Plug-and-Play recently,
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and here are some of the problems we`ve encountered so far:
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1. Im-Pass-word: User cannot change password.
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If you change password as a user, you will receive:
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Can't open /etc/ptmp, can't update password
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2. More than you asked for: 'more' behaves strangely:
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in console (non-X), you'll get segmentation fault.
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in X's xterm, you'll have trouble scrolling.
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The problem also affects 'appropos'.
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3. Plug-and-Play, no-plug, no-play: waning CD-ROM can be a challenge
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We didn't install everything (has anyone?), thus we picked
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packages we wanted from control-panel. Guess what, we still
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have pointers to CD-ROM, such as /usr/X386/lib/libX11*.
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As a posting earlier noted, unless you have only 10MB
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on the hard disk, you may want to stay away from the
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Plug-and-Play. It appears that yggdrasil (not entirely
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improper) has spent much energy in creating a
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Plug-and-Play, and much less so in creating a well- (or
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ever-) tested Linux package.
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The current yggdrasil CD is our second buy, and I can
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see the decline in quality. I sincerely hope that folks
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at yggdrasil keep up the spirit of Plug-'n-Play, while
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at the same time improve quality.
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Yan Xiao, University of Maryland at Baltimore.
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From: robertsw@agcs.com (Wallace Roberts)
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Subject: Re: kermit on Linux CD - violates copyrights
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Date: 7 Oct 1994 13:48:44 -0700
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adam@adam (Adam J. Richter) writes:
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[ ...snip happens... ]
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> Yggdrasil long ago removed kermit from Plug-and-Play Linux
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>for this reason.
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so *that's* what happened to it; i was wondering why my yggdrasil fall
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'93 cd had kermit, but my summer '94 one didn't.
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although i still see vestiges of kermit in the new release, such as a
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.kermrc file in /, & it's still advertised on the cover of your manual,
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i.e.:
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The 76,323 files in this complete plug-and-play operating system include:
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[ ... ]
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Telecommunications: kermit, Z-modem, Taylor UUCP.
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gears,
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ye wilde ryder
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--
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robertsw@agcs.com | 86 cr250 "dirt devil" 83 v65 magna "animal"
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"E Pluribus Unix" | 79 it250 "mr. reliable"
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"Criminals (especially tyrants) prefer unarmed victims."
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"Ignorance can be cured; stupidity, on the other hand, is hereditary."
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From: bigfoot@pentagon.io.com (Bigfoot)
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Subject: Re: 56.6 Kb simulated with 2 28.8Kb modems. Is it possible?
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Date: 4 Oct 1994 15:15:50 -0500
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wslee@ai.mit.edu (Whay S. Lee) writes:
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>In article <1994Sep23.172102.5103@umr.edu> dpe@rocket.cc.umr.edu
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>(David Edwards) writes:
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> >Hmmm... maybe the load balancing stuff could do this... (I have no idea
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> >how much of the load-balancing stuff has been implemented, or how stable
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> >it is...)... If you could set up routing tables at both ends for this, it
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> >seems like it would probibly work. (Famous last words, I know... :) )
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> I recall seeing a device that does just that in a catalog
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>called "Black Boxes" (which unfortunately I no longer receive).
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> Basically, it's a pair of black boxes, one on each end
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>of the modems:
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> box modem modem box
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> --- --- --- ---
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> | |-----| |-----------------------------| |----| |
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> | | --- --- | |
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> | | transmission | |
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> | | --- --- | |
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> --- --- --- ---
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> modem modem
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> I think the black boxes deal with the multiplexing of the
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>signals, and appear as a single serial port to the host.
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>Perhaps someone who does recieve that Black Boxes catalog can
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>look it up. (not cheap though, as I recall.. )
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>whay.
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Is that "Black Box" catalog, an U.S. based company ? Do they have an 800
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number ?
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From: kpenrose@fooba.ml.com (Kevin Penrose)
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Subject: Re: NYC Linux Meeting at Unix Expo - Tuesday O
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Reply-To: kpenrose@fooba.ml.com
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Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 11:27:19 GMT
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>You can get a complimentary exhibits pass by registering electronically by
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>telnetting to: blenheim.com
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>and logging in as: unix94
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>choose your terminal mode (ansi or vt100)
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>and fill in the form. It did odd things when I registered, but seemed to work.
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>
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This electronic registration does not seem to be working for UNIX EXPO.
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Perhaps it's too late to register this way. It let me register for PC EXPO
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but not UNIX EXPO.
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Kevin
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______________________________________________________________________________
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Kevin M. Penrose Email: kpenrose@ml.com
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Merrill Lynch World Financial Center - NT
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212-449-5712 New York, NY 10281-1314
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From: mjf@clark.net (Marc Fraioli)
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Subject: Re: X News-reader for LinuX
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Date: 4 Oct 1994 22:06:02 GMT
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Reply-To: mjf@clark.net
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In article 0019154A@indirect.com, cauthorn@indirect.com (Robert S. Cauthorn) writes:
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>But are any of the X news readers threaded? I haven't found one yet, unless
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>I'm using older versions of xvnews and xrn.
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Not really, that I know of, but some are close. I use xvnews 2.2.1, and
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although it's not threaded, it will sort the messages alphabetically by
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subject, and it's smart enough to ignore "Re:"s at the beginning. This
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is not quite the same as being fully threaded, but it seems close enough
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for me. Also, DEC has a version of xrn, called dxrn, which does do threading.
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So far, however, I have not found a way to enable this automatically-- you
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have to choose "thread articles" off a menu every single time you enter
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a group. This is quite annoying. Also, dxrn wants either the DECwindows
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or Motif widgets. I've never seen it running on Linux, although I suspect
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the Motif version should work (I've built it on Ultrix, OSF/1, SunOS, A/UX,
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and SCO).
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>Incidentally, is there a faq or something that lists the major X internet
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>clients? I'd love to see it in case I'm missing something.
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Dunno, but it would be long...I use xvnews, Mosaic, xarchie, and mftp on Linux.
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I use Mosaic for hitting gophers as well as Web servers.
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Marc Fraioli | "They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist- "
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mjf@clark.net | - Last words of Union General John Sedgwick,
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| Battle of Spotsylvania Court House, U.S. Civil War
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
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From: damin@cis.csuohio.edu ()
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Subject: Cnews - HELP!
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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 04:38:52 GMT
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Hello all....I recently installed the Slackware 2.0.1 Cnews package and am
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experiencing some difficulties now.
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I -USED- to have everything running just fine, but somehow my active file
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became corrupted, my spool drive started to die w/ errors and things kind of
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stopped working.
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I saved all my config files and re-added all my groups.
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Now, when the system starts to process it's incoming News spools, they
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wind up being thrown into the /usr/spool/news/in.coming/bad directory.
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Here's what my Errlog says..
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relaynews: database files for `/var/lib/news/history' incomprehensible or unavailable (Permission denied)
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Also, Here is an ls -al of the directoy (In case this is a permission or
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ownership problem.)
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total 64
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4 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news news 3133 Oct 6 22:31 #active.times#
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1 drwxr-xr-x 7 news news 1024 Oct 7 00:29 ./
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1 drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 1024 Oct 7 00:28 ../
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1 -rw-r--r-- 1 news news 811 Oct 6 22:59 .newsrc
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8 -rw-r--r-- 1 news news 7782 Oct 6 22:58 .pinerc
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1 drwxr-xr-x 4 news news 1024 Oct 6 22:59 .tin/
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1 drw-rw-r-- 2 news news 1024 Oct 6 22:59 Mail/
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1 drw-rw-r-- 2 news news 1024 Oct 6 22:59 News/
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2 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news news 1297 Oct 6 17:01 README.linux
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2 -rw-r--r-- 1 news news 1495 Oct 7 00:00 active
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1 -rw-r--r-- 1 news news 840 Oct 6 22:33 active.old
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2 -rw-r--r-- 1 news news 1609 Oct 6 22:33 active.times
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1 -rw-r--r-- 1 news news 760 Oct 6 17:01 active.times.o
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1 -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 95 Oct 7 00:04 batchlog
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0 -rw-r--r-- 1 news news 0 Oct 6 22:56 batchlog.o
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0 -rw-r--r-- 1 news news 0 Oct 6 22:55 batchlog.oo
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0 -rw-r--r-- 1 news news 0 Oct 6 22:55 batchlog.ooo
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1 -rw-r--r-- 1 news news 568 Oct 6 17:01 batchparms
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1 drwxr-xr-x 2 news news 1024 Oct 6 22:55 bin/
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1 -rw-r--r-- 1 news news 545 Oct 6 22:44 crontab.sample
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0 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news news 0 Sep 21 05:18 delayed
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1 -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 636 Oct 7 00:28 errlog
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2 -rw-r--r-- 1 news news 2004 Oct 7 00:01 errlog.o
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0 -rw-r--r-- 1 news news 0 Oct 6 22:55 errlog.oo
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0 -rw-r--r-- 1 news news 0 Oct 6 22:55 errlog.ooo
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1 -rw-r--r-- 1 news news 241 Oct 7 00:00 explist
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0 -rw-rw-rw- 1 news news 0 Oct 6 23:35 history
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3 -rw-r--r-- 2 root root 3072 Oct 6 23:35 history.dir
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3 -rw-r--r-- 2 root root 3072 Oct 6 23:35 history.pag
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0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 news news 29 Sep 20 19:46 inews -> /usr/lib/newsbin/inject/inews*
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1 -rw-r--r-- 1 news news 26 Oct 6 22:38 localgroups
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1 -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 182 Oct 6 23:52 log
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1 -rw-r--r-- 1 news news 546 Oct 7 00:01 log.o
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1 drw-rw-r-- 2 news news 1024 Oct 6 22:58 mail/
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1 -rw-r--r-- 1 news news 17 Oct 6 16:50 mailname
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1 -rw-r--r-- 1 news news 14 Oct 5 16:13 mailpaths
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0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 news news 13 Sep 20 23:22 news -> /usr/lib/news/
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1 -rw-r--r-- 1 news news 41 Oct 6 22:59 organization
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14 -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root 15715 Oct 7 00:00 setnewsids*
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1 -rw-r--r-- 1 news news 266 Oct 7 00:00 sys
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1 -rw-r--r-- 1 news news 423 Oct 5 16:30 wariat.feed
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0 -rw-r--r-- 1 news news 0 Oct 6 22:45 watchtime
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1 -rw-r--r-- 1 news news 7 Oct 7 00:00 whoami
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Any suggestions would be helpful....Thanks..
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From: root@jaguar.tigerden.com (System Administrator)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.development
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Subject: Re: Telnet & ftp freeze! - AND UNFREEZE KLUDGE
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Date: 7 Oct 1994 21:57:57 GMT
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Alan Cox (iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk) wrote:
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: What is interesting is everyone reporting the problem uses PPP. I've looked
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: through the PPP driver but I can't see anything wrong with it.
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We are using SLIP! And the problems we see are not *after* a connection
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is successfully opened, it is one of the system *refusing* connections
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(apparently). Nearly all functions handled by inetd seem affected:
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telnet logins, rlogins, ftp attempts, smail connections, attemps to do
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zone transfers from named by our provider's router, you name it. Things
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work fine *most* of the time, but the login problems are the most
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persistant and visible. In those cases, the system log *usually* shows
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'connect from...' but the user never gets a prompt, or never gets a
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password prompt after entering username. Netd entries in the log are
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'connection refused' mostly.
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George Nemeyer (root@tigerden.com)
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System Administrator
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Tigerden.com
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From: fat@Indy (Irtegov Dmitry Valentinovich)
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
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Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
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Date: 08 Oct 1994 08:48:56 GMT
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In article <36t7v0$ocq@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> willis@bltop.ncsu.edu (Bill Willis) writes:
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> Actually, almost every study I have ever seen shows that WYSIWYG significantly
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> reduces the productivity of a person trying to get serious writing done. I
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> believe that these were studies of documentation producers and that they found
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> that users of WYSIWYG spend a lot of time formatting and reformatting to get
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> visual appearance when they should be writing content. In other words, the
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> process of wrting content then formatting is more productive that formatting as
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> you go and WYSIWYG tends to lead people to format as they go.
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100% agree. I've had an experience translating a technical book from english
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to russian. For `historical' reasons we were forced to do it in Word 5.5.
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We've found that most productive way is to type text in `text mode' of
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the wordprocessor, and format later - exactly the thing LaTeX does, but
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in Word user should format manually, LaTeX do it automatically :).
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It is why I prefer LaTeX. May be groff or other flawors of TeX would be better,
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but I'm not familiar with them.
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Also I participated in making a reprint in LaTeX. Initial articles were
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in raw ASCII with different forms of pictures - from ASCII art to encapsulated
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PostScript. Reprint was ~200 pages long. All work was done by two persons
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in 1.5 days. It is same or faster than equal job done in Word for Windows,
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though Word for Windows require 486s for NORMAL work;
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our work was done on 386SXes <g>.
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It means that LaTeX at least NOT LESS productive than Word.
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Convenience is too much a matter of a personal taste.
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Also `sheeps follow shepherd', and people tend to accept as
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convenient things they are told to be convenient ;).
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Another argument against WYSIWYG: it draws your text as it will look on
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the paper. It doesn't mean it will look well on the screen.
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To make text on the screen easy readable/editable you should select
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other fonts and format in another way.
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May be when we will hawe 600Dpi flat screens...
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Learning curve for LaTeX is also very short. Everybody who has some
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experience in ASCII editing and isn't brain dead since birth, may learn
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LaTeX basics in several minutes. He/she just should have short sample file
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and know several simple facts (read f(orgotten) README :).
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On another hand maketing (sp?) of newspaper page _requires_ WYSIWYG.
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> I guess that we are not talking letters and memos here, but reports, books,
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> etc. and this makes a difference. But the bottom line is, no body has ever
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> shown me anything that proves WYSIWYG makes for more productive writing...
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I've found that for me ever making letters/memos is better/faster in LaTeX.
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I very easy get sick of slow screen redraws in WYSIWYG editors, ever on
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486/fast VGA. Pentium or Alpha required for basic wordprocessing makes me
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er... feel that something is very wrong.
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> I also have to admit that I generally use WYSIWYG...
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I agree that WYSIWYG is aways fun, often convenient and sometimes necessary.
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It does not mean it is always necessary and convenient.
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> --
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> Bill Willis
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Cheers,
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Fat Brother.
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`Fatal Error: Cannot enter Windows, try Doors instead'
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From: acg@kzin.cen.ufl.edu (Alexandra Griffin)
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Subject: Re: New Linux Distribution
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Date: 7 Oct 1994 04:56:47 GMT
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In article <370us8$fnl@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>,
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Erik Troan <ewt@tipper.oit.unc.edu> wrote:
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>[...]
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>Don't forget less used. Python may be good, but it's not ubiquitous. If you
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>leave out sed and awk you're breaking a lot of shell scripts. How many
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>makefiles use sed or awk in them? None of those will work if you remove them.
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Agreed, and what's with this desire to strip away so many of the
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normal Unix utils? sed + awk <200K (slack 2.0 binaries), and most of
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the other shell tools are similarly small. Leaving out development
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stuff, gnu-emacs, etc. may make sense in some cases, but with disk
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space as cheap as it's gotten the minimal savings from omitting basic
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utilities is hardly worth the inconvenience this will almost certainly
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cause the user in the long run, IMHO.
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-- alex
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From: daniel@isi.edu (Daniel Zappala)
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.os.linux.admin
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Subject: Re: Mystery Chip...AMD
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Date: 7 Oct 1994 17:35:24 GMT
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In article <372tuk$1el@huron.eel.ufl.edu>, acg@kzin.cen.ufl.edu (Alexandra Griffin) writes:
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> In article <371kim$emf@venera.isi.edu>, Daniel Zappala <daniel@isi.edu> wrote:
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> >
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> >In article <370rc5$o7q@crl.crl.com>, rigor@crl.com (Sam Brown) writes:
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> >
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> >I have an AMD 486DX-40. Any news on an add-in from AMD to turn this into a
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> >486DX2-80, or do I need to buy a whole new chip?
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>
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> Nope, sorry... the dx/2 chips are different inside (have a PLL circuit
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> to double their on-chip clock, and extra interface logic to hook up to
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> the half-speed external bus), and of course you can't very well modify
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> a silicon die after it's been made!
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>
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But doesn't Intel sell a chip that upgrades a 486DX-33 into a 486DX2-66?
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How do they manage that?
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Daniel
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