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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Tue, 11 Oct 94 11:13:16 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #917
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Linux-Misc Digest #917, Volume #2 Tue, 11 Oct 94 11:13:16 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: ez (was Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?) (Alexandra Griffin)
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Re: which is better: Mitsumi or Panasonic CDROM? (Jonathan Noel Tombs)
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[help] xdos can't load shared library (david her)
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Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Boudewijn)
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320x200 Xconfig line (Tim Lines)
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Re: Telnet & ftp freeze! (John Richardson)
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showaudio (phil slurrup)
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Re: 320x200 Xconfig line (Gene McCulley)
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Re: Does all SCO software run on Linux (Mark A. Davis)
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Re: RFD: comp.os.linux reorganization (zachary brown)
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Re: Linux <-> Hurd (was: How Old Is Linus?) (zachary brown)
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Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Andrew J. Cosgriff)
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Re: Lilo booting last booted OS. (Hamish Coleman)
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From: acg@kzin.cen.ufl.edu (Alexandra Griffin)
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
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Subject: Re: ez (was Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?)
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Date: 11 Oct 1994 09:28:44 GMT
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In article <37cu4n$f89@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>,
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<davis@amy.tch.harvard.edu> wrote:
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>In article <1994Oct10.185245.15648@midway.uchicago.edu>,
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>goer@quads.uchicago.edu (Richard L. Goerwitz) writes:
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> : Personally, I don't that dial-up character-based I/O is the future of
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> : computing. To bend over backwards to suit this constituency would be
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> : to cripple any forward-looking WP, and to slow development.
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>
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>I do not think that making a character based WP will slow development at
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>all. The display code for X is far more complex than it is for ordinary
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>terminals and will distract from the internals of the WP itself. The X
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>stuff can come later. I think that there are far more of us still using
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>simple terminals than are using X terminals.
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Yes, it's good to have the option to go either way-- X is nice and
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versatile, but when it's necessary to run stuff remotely over a
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s_l_o_w modem connection the additional delays imposed by X often
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outweigh its advantages. Also, sometimes it's handy to be able to log
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in on any old character terminal or dial-up line to do some document
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editing or whatever. The termcap and ncurses libraries provide enough
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functionality to cover probably 75% of my word-processing needs
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(anything that doesn't need explicit embedded-graphics, multi-font,
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proportional spacing support; underlining, bold, page formatting, etc.
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can all be done in character mode). The extra overhead of supporting
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character mode in addition to X (or whatever) isn't that much for a
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lot of software.
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-- alex
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From: jon@obelix.cica.es (Jonathan Noel Tombs)
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Subject: Re: which is better: Mitsumi or Panasonic CDROM?
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Date: 10 Oct 1994 13:23:20 +0100
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In article <37311r$16o@ugle.unit.no>,
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Hallvard Paulsen <hallpaul@mt22pc-26.marina.unit.no> wrote:
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>Harry C Pulley (hpulley@uoguelph.ca) wrote:
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>: Heiko Schlittermann (heiko@lotte.sax.de) wrote:
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>: : As far as I know the Mitsumi driver doesn't use either irq nor dma.
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>
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>: Then why is it important that you set your IRQ correctly in mcd.h?
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>
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>And why is it mentioned in the SoundBlaster manual that you
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>have to choose an IRQ number for the Mitsumi drive, but not
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>for a Sony or Crative (Panasonic?) drive?
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maybe it can't be changed with the panasonic drives.
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To put the record straight:
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The mitsumi driver _does not_ use the interupt. It does however have
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the ability to generate one, and is connected to an interupt line on
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your PC bus. As you can't share interupts in a PC/AT compatible you must
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define the IRQ line mainly so that no other device can, and in the off
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chance that an error causes your drive to generate an IRQ it is safely
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ignored.
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Not using the IRQ makes the driver much more cpu intensive, and also probably
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slower, mitusmi is not exactly free with the programing info to allow a driver
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that uses the IRQ, but I know of atleast one person with the documentation and
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expect the mitsumi driver will one day support the irq, better be ready and
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have your irq correct now :-)
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Jon.
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From: davidher@netcom.com (david her)
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Subject: [help] xdos can't load shared library
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Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 21:56:35 GMT
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I compilied xdos sucessfully. But when xdos is ran it can not load shared
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library. What shared library it actually looking for ? Please help , thanx
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in advance.
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From: boud@rempt.xs4all.nl (Boudewijn)
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
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Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
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Date: Mon, 10 Oct 94 22:40:04 CET
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Reply-To: boud@rempt.xs4all.nl
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In article <378dhb$r6p@kubds1.kub.nl> J.J. Paijmans (paai@kub.nl) wrote
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on Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
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>
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> An important part of its attraction is that the LaTeX-look already has
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> been approved by most journals and editors in my line of work, so if
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> they don't like the looks of my articles, it is their problem. And of
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> course LaTeX may be sent by email, be "grepped", "awked", "headed",
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> "tailed" and "sedded" without inviting disasters. Furthermore I can
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> take my work to any machine that sports an ASCII-editor, be it a dumb
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> terminal, Mac, DOS PC, Unix or VAX and continue working (as long as
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> the disk can be read or a serial link to an usable drive can be
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> created.
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Most of the journals in the kind of linguistics I used to do before I
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became an Oracle systems builder _demanded_ Mac Word (which can't even
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use Worldscript, or so I am told).
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>
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> Last but not least LaTeX doesn't change. In my queste for the holy
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> Grail of wordprocessing I used a lot different systems over the years.
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> If I have to go back to my personal archives for old articles written
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> in, say, Ventura (although that one is ASCII-based too), old WP-files,
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> old MS-Word-files, I generally have a problem. Not so my collegues,
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> who have been using LaTeX for ten years or so.
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Well, that is a very strong point. I have an archive of ten years of
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stuff, some of it even in Quill...
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> Oh, and it is nice to animals too... :-)
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> Paai.
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>
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>
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--
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Boudewijn Rempt
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Kloosterstraat 34 1.2, 2021 VN Haarlem.
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't Gezichtje eerst, dan de handen,
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dan de bibben, en 't laatst de tanden.
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Mijnheer Dil, De tuinen van Dorr, Paul
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Biegel.
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From: tlines@u.washington.edu (Tim Lines)
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Subject: 320x200 Xconfig line
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Date: 9 Oct 1994 00:44:11 GMT
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I know this question has probably been asked a thousand times,
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so feel free to flame me for asking the thousand and first.
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Here goes: How do I set up my Xconfig to support a "320x200"
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resolution. It's a standard enough video mode that I suspect
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the same line added to the Xconfig would work anywhere. So
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flame away guys, but I will consider you unqualified to
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flame me if you don't know the answer. You'll have to
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excuse me now, I've got to hurry and pick up my asbestos
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suit from the cleaners...
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From: jrichard@cs.uml.edu (John Richardson)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.admin
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Subject: Re: Telnet & ftp freeze!
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Date: 9 Oct 1994 01:05:30 GMT
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>Right, but introducing a 3000ms latency in the PPP session is not
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>really acceptable.
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>
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Unfortuantely, I think the problem lies elsewhere if you have my
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patch. :(
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--
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John Richardson
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From: phil@access3.digex.net (phil slurrup)
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Subject: showaudio
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Date: 10 Oct 1994 13:19:32 -0400
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Has anybody got showaudio to run for Mosaic? I am having trouble
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compiling it. Is there Linux specific source and if so where? I also
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realized I didn't know how the include directories for gcc can be expanded,
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without doing it from the command line, where is that setup and defined?
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One other question, is there a way to cut and paste text between sessions
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in linux, and if so where can I find info?
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Phil Durbin
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phil@access.digex.net
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From: mcculley@greatwall.cctt.com (Gene McCulley)
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Subject: Re: 320x200 Xconfig line
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Date: 10 Oct 1994 17:22:53 GMT
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In article <PLM.94Oct10171024@nijmegen3.atcmp.nl>, plm@atcmp.nl (Peter Mutsaers) writes:
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|> >> On Mon, 10 Oct 1994 15:21:25 GMT, hhanemaa@cs.ruu.nl (Harm Hanemaaijer) said:
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|>
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|> HH> There is no sane SVGA style 320x200 mode timing that produce the standard
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|> HH> VGA horizontal and vertical scan rates. The problem is that the standard
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|> HH> VGA 200-line modes use a certain 'doublescan' bit that XFree86 2.1/2.1.1/
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|> HH> 3.1 do not know about (3.1.1 will). If you attempt to define a 320x200
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|> HH> mode anyway with a 25 MHz dot clock you are likely causing a horizontal
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|> HH> sync twice and a vertical sync four times as high as the standard
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|> HH> VGA 320x200 mode needs. This is way above the spec of most monitors, even
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|> HH> most high-end ones. If even if such a mode appears to work it may be
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|> HH> operating at a sync rate 20% or so above spec and could cause damage.
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|>
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|> HH> If your server/chipset driver provides a 12.5 MHz clock, you can define
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|> HH> a sane 320x400 mode and work with that.
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|>
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|> However, the SVGA server from XFree 3.1 knows 320x200x256 without the
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|> need for a modeline; choose generic svga and it works.
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How do I use this with my accel server so that I can have 800x600, 640x480, and
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320x200 modes accessible from Ctrl-Alt-+?
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From: mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis)
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Subject: Re: Does all SCO software run on Linux
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Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 12:52:57 GMT
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swein@csc.albany.edu (Scott Weinstein) writes:
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>I posted about this in comp.windows.x.i368unix, but got no replies.
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>I've been using WP 5.1 for sco unix with linux and Xfree 2.1 for about
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>a month with no real problems.
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>I recently tried to upgrade to XFree 3.1. When I tried out WP, it gave
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>give me lots of Xm* error and then wold give me a seg violation. One time it
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>cause my HD to do *something* for about 1/2 hour. I ended up rebooting
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>that time.
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I have heard lots of ***HORROR**** stories about XFree 3.1. My suggestion
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is not to use it yet!!!
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>I'm at kernel 1.1.45 and am now back to Xfree 2.1.
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--
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/--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
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| Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk,VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
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| Director/SysAdmin | Information Systems | mark@taylor.infi.net |
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\--------------------------------------------------------------------------/
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From: zbrown@lynx.dac.neu.edu (zachary brown)
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Subject: Re: RFD: comp.os.linux reorganization
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Date: 11 Oct 1994 08:42:15 -0400
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>I think wine has it's own newsgroup (comp.sys.emulators.wine ?) so there
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^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
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It's comp.emulators.ms-windows.wine
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From: zbrown@lynx.dac.neu.edu (zachary brown)
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Subject: Re: Linux <-> Hurd (was: How Old Is Linus?)
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Date: 11 Oct 1994 08:44:50 -0400
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In article <CHRISB.94Oct11171454@stork.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au>,
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Chris Bitmead <chrisb@stork.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au> wrote:
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>In article <1994Oct1.132237.407@golem.greenie.muc.de> andi@golem.greenie.muc.de (Andi Kleen) writes:
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>
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>>In article <19941001024823.AAA7336@emile.math.ucsb.edu>,
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>>Axel Boldt <boldt@math.ucsb.edu> wrote:
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>>>Jiann-Ming> Why would Linux go away?
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>>>
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>>>Hurd, maybe? Are they planning an 486 version at all?
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>>
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>>Hurd is being developed on a Compaq 386.
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>
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>Hurd is available for 386, but I thought it was being developed on DEC
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>Alpha.
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>
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I thought it was supposed to eventually be hardware independant.
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From: ajcos1@penfold.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew J. Cosgriff)
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
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Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
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Date: 10 Oct 1994 09:37:26 GMT
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craig@tanuki.twics.com writes:
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>This is an ongoing debate. If a text editor + LaTeX is a
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>viable alternative to a standard word processor like MS Word in
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>an office environment, then there needs to be some way to share
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>documents with other platforms. We use RTF to share between
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>Mac/Windows. If software for Linux can't do this, then it
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>should be able to read it plain text and translate the
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>"lf" characters. In the case of a Mac, this is ^M.
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>
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>MS Word can search and replace the unix "lf" character so that
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>text files written on a Linux machine can be displayed on a
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>Mac or Windows machine.
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>
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>I think it can be acceptable to translate a formatted document on
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>one platform to plain text to be formatted on another platform.
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>However, thus far, I have been unable to get a Linux text editor like
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>emacs to do a search and replace of the ^M lf character.
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'vim' handles such files just fine.
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so can emacs - here's the code I use (grabbed from gnu.emacs.sources ages ago)
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Enjoy,
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Andrew
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(watch out for the signature at the end)
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;; -*-Emacs-Lisp-*-
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;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
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;;
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;; File: dos-mode.el
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;; RCS: $Header: dos-mode.el,v 1.10 92/11/26 12:07:55 ange Exp $
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;; Description: MSDOS minor mode for GNU Emacs
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;; Author: Andy Norman, Hewlett-Packard Labs, Bristol, England.
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;; Created: Wed May 6 16:42:29 1992
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;; Modified: Thu Nov 26 12:07:10 1992 (Andy Norman) ange@hplb.hpl.hp.com
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;; Language: Emacs-Lisp
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;;
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;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
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;;; Copyright (C) 1992 Andy Norman.
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;;;
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;;; Author: Andy Norman (ange@hplb.hpl.hp.com)
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;;;
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;;; This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
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;;; it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
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;;; the Free Software Foundation; either version 1, or (at your option)
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;;; any later version.
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;;;
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;;; This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
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;;; but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
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;;; MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
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;;; GNU General Public License for more details.
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;;;
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;;; A copy of the GNU General Public License can be obtained from this
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;;; program's author (send electronic mail to ange@hplb.hpl.hp.com) or from
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;;; the Free Software Foundation, Inc., 675 Mass Ave, Cambridge, MA
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;;; 02139, USA.
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;;; Description:
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;;;
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;;; This package does two things:
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;;;
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;;; If a file being read into a buffer has the ^M character at the end of each
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;;; line then these extra characters are discarded from the file's buffer.
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;;; The trailing ^Z, if present, is discarded too. The buffer is now put into
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;;; the dos-mode minor-mode.
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;;;
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;;; Secondly, when a buffer in dos-mode is being written out, the ^M and
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;;; optional ^Z characters are replaced before the write happens.
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;;;
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;;; dos-mode can be toggled for a buffer with M-x dos-mode.
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;;; Installation:
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;;;
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;;; Byte-compile dos-mode.el to dos-mode.elc and put them both in a directory
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;;; on your load-path. Load the package from your .emacs file with:
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;;;
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;;; (require 'dos-mode)
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;;;
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;;; dos-mode can't sensibly be auto-loaded; you are either using it, or you
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;;; aren't.
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;;; LISPDIR ENTRY for the Elisp Archive
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;;;
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;;; LCD Archive Entry:
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;;; dos-mode|Andy Norman|ange@hplb.hpl.hp.com
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;;; |MSDOS minor mode for GNU Emacs
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;;; |$Date: 92/11/26 12:07:55 $|$Revision: 1.10 $|
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(provide 'dos-mode)
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(defvar dos-mode-distance 200
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"Number of characters to search for RETURN when looking for a DOS file.")
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(defvar dos-mode nil
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"This buffer is to be converted to/from DOS format when read/written.")
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(make-variable-buffer-local 'dos-mode)
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(setq-default dos-mode nil)
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(or (assq 'dos-mode minor-mode-alist)
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(setq minor-mode-alist (cons '(dos-mode " DOS") minor-mode-alist)))
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(defun dos-mode (arg)
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"Toggle DOS mode.
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With arg, turn DOS mode on iff arg is positive.
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In DOS mode, when the buffer is saved, it is converted to DOS format first,
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and when restored it is converted to UNIX format first."
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(interactive "P")
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(setq dos-mode
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(if (null arg) (not dos-mode)
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(> (prefix-numeric-value arg) 0)))
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(set-buffer-modified-p t))
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(defvar dos-seen-ctl-Z nil
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"Remember whether C-Z was seen at the end of this buffer.")
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(make-variable-buffer-local 'dos-seen-ctl-Z)
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(setq-default dos-seen-ctl-Z nil)
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(defun dos-convert-buffer-to-unix ()
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"Converts the current buffer from DOS format to UNIX format."
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(let ((mod-p (buffer-modified-p))
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(buffer-read-only nil))
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(save-excursion
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;; Remove all C-m's that occur at the end of each line.
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(goto-char (point-min))
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(while (re-search-forward "\r$" nil t)
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(replace-match ""))
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;; see if there is a C-z near the end of the buffer.
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(goto-char (point-max))
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(beginning-of-line)
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(forward-line -1) ;should be safe enough
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(setq dos-seen-ctl-Z (search-forward "\C-z" nil t))
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(if dos-seen-ctl-Z
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(replace-match "")))
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(set-buffer-modified-p mod-p)
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(setq dos-mode t)))
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(defun dos-convert-buffer-to-dos ()
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"Converts the current buffer from UNIX format to DOS format."
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(save-excursion
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(goto-char (point-min))
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(while (re-search-forward "\n" nil t)
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(replace-match "\r\n"))
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(if dos-seen-ctl-Z
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(progn
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(goto-char (point-max))
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(insert "\C-z")))))
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(defun dos-check-buffer ()
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"Used as a find-file hook, if the buffer looks like a DOS format buffer
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then it will be converted to a UNIX format buffer."
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(if (or dos-mode
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(save-excursion
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(goto-char (point-min))
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(re-search-forward "\r$"
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(min (point-max) dos-mode-distance)
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t)))
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(dos-convert-buffer-to-unix)))
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(defun dos-write-buffer ()
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"If the current buffer was originally a DOS format buffer, write it as such."
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(if dos-mode
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(let* ((buffer-read-only nil)
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(window (get-buffer-window (current-buffer)))
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(p (point))
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(m (mark))
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(ws (and window (window-start window))))
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(dos-convert-buffer-to-dos)
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(unwind-protect
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(write-region (point-min)
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(point-max)
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buffer-file-name
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nil
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t)
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(dos-convert-buffer-to-unix) ;convert back again!
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(and window
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(set-window-start window
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(save-excursion (goto-char ws)
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(beginning-of-line)
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(point))))
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(goto-char p)
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(set-mark m))
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t)))
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(or (memq 'dos-write-buffer write-file-hooks)
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(setq write-file-hooks
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(append write-file-hooks
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(list 'dos-write-buffer)))) ;stick it on the end
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(or (memq 'dos-check-buffer find-file-hooks)
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(setq find-file-hooks
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(append find-file-hooks
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(list 'dos-check-buffer))))
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--
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- Andrew J. Cosgriff - http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~cos
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andrew@bing.apana.org.au ajcos1@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au andrew@unico.com.au
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"Jesus Kiboed my hotrod."
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From: hamish@zot.apana.org.au (Hamish Coleman)
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Subject: Re: Lilo booting last booted OS.
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Date: 8 Oct 1994 14:41:58 +1000
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In <36tn24$dh9@infoserv.rug.ac.be> bvwilder@elis.rug.ac.be (Bruno Van Wilder) writes:
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>rutger@arrakis.kub.nl wrote:
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>: Hi all,
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>: I would like to know if it is possible that Lilo will boot the last booted
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>: OS. E.g. if I boot Linux then Lilo will keep on booting linux 'till I select
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>: another OS (MS-Dos). I liked this feature in the SLS distribution (0.99.X),
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>: but it is gone in the slackware distribution.
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>I do not think it is possible yet, but it is a good idea indeed.
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It is not possible with lilo as it stands, but it is possible with a combination
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of another boot-manager.
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I have a little master-boot-loader called winiboot, (which BTW, might have been
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the one with SLS 0.99.x).
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It prompts you with the 4 main partitions, and lets you press a number of the one
|
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to boot from, with a timeout and default partition.
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I have lilo installed in /dev/hda4 rather than /dev/hda (because winiboot is
|
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installed in /dev/hda), so if I chose partition 4, the lilo boots. If I choose
|
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partition 1, DOS boots. Now, I have a DOS program, and a unix script that change
|
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the partition that winiboot uses as default - so, if I boot dos, it sets the default
|
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partition to 1, and if I boot linux, it sets the default to 4.
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Simple eh?
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--
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Use Linux! hamish@zot.apana.org.au
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the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside too. Oh,
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and some people have half a one for breakfast.'' -- Ford Prefect
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