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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Sat, 15 Oct 94 23:13:11 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #946
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Linux-Misc Digest #946, Volume #2 Sat, 15 Oct 94 23:13:11 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: X vs non-X users? (Peter Jones)
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Re: quota (Martin Eggen)
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Re: Mystery Chip...AMD (Michael Berthold)
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Re: Mystery Chip...AMD (Michael Berthold)
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Re: Linux doesn't like my cache (Bob Kupiec)
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Linux Developer Resource (Infomagic) (Lasermoon Info Desk)
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Re: Copyright Violations Plague the Net (Paul Budnik)
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Re: Copyright Violations Plague the Net (Dale R. Worley)
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Re: Anyone using P90-Plato-INTEL board under LINUX??? (Marc Tamsky)
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Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Jerry Leslie)
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Re: [H] missing "Close" item onSWiM motif menu (Jason Van Patten)
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Re^2: Beautifying Linux/Xfree (Karsten Mauler)
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Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Prof. Gavrie Philipson)
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GNU assembler release now folded into "binary utilities" package (Ken Raeburn)
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From: thanatos@drealm.org (Peter Jones)
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Subject: Re: X vs non-X users?
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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 20:30:34 +0000
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On 6 Oct 1994 20:37:04 GMT, Charles Blair (ceblair@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote (in article <371n5g$pn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>):
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> The main reason I still have a DOS partition on my machine is that
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> I don't use X, and, as far as I know, there is no non-X previewer for
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> TeX that is equal in quality or ease of use to the emtex previewer
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> for DOS.
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> This leads to a more general question. I wonder whether we are
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> approaching the point where software for the two kinds of linux/unix
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> users will split the group. I can't suggest any particular fix.
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> As a matter of curiosity, I wonder what the X/non-X ratio is.
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It also raises the question, "Why is there no non-X graphics support in
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Linux, seeing as it _knows_ what the video driver looks like?". I asked
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ages ago about a RIP viewer for Linux without X. A TeX viewer for Linux
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without X would be nice, too.
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Maybe people could port the DOS versions to Linux?
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-- Peter
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From: martine@powertech.no (Martin Eggen)
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Subject: Re: quota
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Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 02:31:33 GMT
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In article <CxKB37.6q1@sun2.iusb.indiana.edu>,
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gbrownin@sun1.iusb.indiana.edu (G. Browning) wrote:
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> Does anyone know if quota is available for Linux yet?????????
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> (for the newest kernel version that is 1.1.53)
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I dunno for newest kernel, but anyway, quota is included in Slackware 2.0.0,
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as far as I know.
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Martin :)
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|====================| Finger for PGP public key!
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| Martin Eggen | W3-home page:
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|martine@powertech.no| http://www.powertech.no/~martine/
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|====================|
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From: berthold@fzi.de (Michael Berthold)
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.os.linux.admin
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Subject: Re: Mystery Chip...AMD
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Date: 14 Oct 1994 11:00:18 GMT
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Reply-To: berthold@fzi.de
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In article <dboniuk.581.00494061@bga.com>, dboniuk@bga.com (David J. Boniuk) writes:
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|> [...]
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|> It is possible that the DX/2-80 is simply a sampling of the "best" of the
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|> DX/2-66s that come off the line, but I would think it unlikely tht AMD is just
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That is the way I see it too. There is quiet some variance in modern
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processor-fabrication.
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|> wholesale relabling DX/2-66s to DX/2-80s.
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Why should they do that???
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|>
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- Michael
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From: berthold@fzi.de (Michael Berthold)
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
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Subject: Re: Mystery Chip...AMD
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Date: 14 Oct 1994 11:01:47 GMT
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Reply-To: berthold@fzi.de
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|>
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|> Marketing shlock. Intel and MicroSquish - two peas in a pod.
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Funny, that the two best-going comanies are always blamed for
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doing bad business (jealous? :-)
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- Michael
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From: kupiec@tigger.jvnc.net (Bob Kupiec)
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Subject: Re: Linux doesn't like my cache
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Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 00:02:28 GMT
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In <LONGSA%DFCS.73@dfmail.usafa.af.mil>, LONGSA%DFCS@dfmail.usafa.af.mil writes:
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>In article <3728q4$7vk@nntp1.u.washington.edu> dcflood@u.washington.edu (David Flood) writes:
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>>>Try increasing the cache read/write wait states... I have a similiar
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>
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>>Well, the default is write is 1. When I try 2, lilo bombs with a crc error
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>>during uncompress. The only other availible setting is 0. The only read
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>>setting is one called 'Cache Read Cycle'. It is set to 2-1-1-1 and can be
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>>set to 3-2-2-2 or 2-2-2-2. I'll try the others with a 1 write setting and
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>>get back to you.
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>
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>Me again... I upgraded my 386dx33 to a 486dlc40, simple chip swap since my
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>MB directly supports the chip. Well, 70ns main memory appears to be a bit
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>slow, while my 20ns cache works fine at 40 with no wait states. After
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>trying bunches of stuff, it turns out that I NEED 1 read and write wait
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>state on main memory, but no wait states on cache. I had thought that 70ns
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>memory was good up to 40 mhz, but I guess 60 is REALLY required. I tested
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After reading your message, it has me looking again into my problem.
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I'm still looking for the solution... ;-)
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I have a 486dx40 with 70ns SIMMS and 256k 20ns cache ram. The machine
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has problems while running with the cache turned on. (i.e. kernel
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compile errors, garbage reads from disk, Slackware install crashed, etc.)
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With cache turned off, the machine runs fine, except ~10% slower on compiles.
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I've tried messing with the BIOS setups ad infinitum, with no luck.
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Your post made me look again in the motherboard manual, and I found a
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jumper setting. Here is what it says:
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"VL-Bus Master Setting
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Set JP8 to configure the VL-Bus for zero wait state or one wait
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state (default)."
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It's currently set to ZERO wait states. I don't remember exactly,
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but I think I switched this (to ONE wait state) to test the cache problem
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and the machine ran REALLY slow. What does this jumper do? It sounds
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Bus related, not memory related.
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Has anyone with an AMI BIOS had and fixed this problem? What are your BIOS
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settings?
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The motherboard I'm using is made by SI3 (p/n YM413201).
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--
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Bob Kupiec (N3MML) Phone: 1-609-897-7300 JvNCnet (GES, Inc.)
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Network Engineering -or- : 1-800-35-TIGER 3 Independence Way
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Email: kupiec@jvnc.net Fax : 1-609-897-7310 Princeton, NJ 08540
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From: info@lasermoon.co.uk (Lasermoon Info Desk)
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Subject: Linux Developer Resource (Infomagic)
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Date: Sat, 15 Oct 94 15:18:48 GMT
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From: paul@mtnmath.mtnmath.com (Paul Budnik)
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
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Subject: Re: Copyright Violations Plague the Net
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Date: 15 Oct 1994 11:31:04 -0700
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Intellectual property is an important and necessary legal concept in
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a modern society. Stealing intellectual property is stealing. However
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not all the terms in every program's license are legal and not everything
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that is legal is moral.
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We need to understand that this is a complex issue with no simple solutions.
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Our current laws and current institutions are a long way from optimizing
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technical progress. We need to change the laws and evolve institutions that
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promote greater sharing while retaining economic incentives to do the work
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in the first place.
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There are many ways to do this. Supporting the League for Programming Freedom
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is one. There is nothing wrong with having a copyright on a program's source
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code but there is a great deal that is wrong with having a copyright on
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the look and feel of a program or having a patent on a mathematical
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method or an idea (as opposed to an implementation of the idea). These
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distinctions are not simple and obvious. Lawmakers and judges who are
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not knowledgeable in the technology can make atrocious decisions.
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Campaign contributions from special interests can lead to even more
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atrocious decisions. Reforming how we finance political campaigns can
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have a huge impact on what future laws are like.
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We need to change anti-trust laws to prevent excessive dominance in one
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industry even if there were no anti-competitive measures taken to gain
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that dominance. Large institutions are not necessarily bad but single
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institutions that dominate an industry inevitably stifle progress. It
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made me ill to hear that Microsoft was buying Intuit (the manufacturer
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of Quicken), one of the few companies that has been able to compete with
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them and win.
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There are experiments in new ways to develop and deliver software
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that are evolving. The work of the FSF and Linux are remarkable achievements.
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I am trying an experiment of my own in combining the free and commercial
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models. I have released a tool for Digital Signal Processing under the
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GPL and plan to release commercial versions of the same tool. If you
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want to use ObjectProDSP for personal purposes or to create more free
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software you can do so without cost. If you want to develop commercial
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applications with it you need to purchase a commercial license. My hope
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is that I will gain more from making the source code freely available
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so others can contribute to my tool then I will loose by giving information
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to my competitors.
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If you want to be part of the solution and not part of the problem then
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you have to understand that there is no simple formula to address these
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complex issues.
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Paul Budnik
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From: drw@zermelo.mit.edu (Dale R. Worley)
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Crossposted-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc,misc.legal,alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.d,gnu.misc.discuss
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Subject: Re: Copyright Violations Plague the Net
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Date: 15 Oct 94 20:58:19
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In article <37pipb$73a@panix.com> binesh@panix.com (Binesh Bannerjee) writes:
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Gina Goff (GINA@ricevm1.rice.edu) wrote:
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: Suppose you were a software consultant. You put together a really nifty
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: package for company A. In fact, it's so popular with them that you decide
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: to market it. Unfortunately, company A has decided to sell it, too; why
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: shouldn't everyone be able to just use your effort? How would you feel
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: then?
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Incredible how you just described someone in real life...
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Let me quote from an interview...
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> BYTE: A cynic might wonder how you earn your living.
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> Stallman: From consulting. [etc.]
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Though, of course, Stallman lives very frugally.
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Dale
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Dale Worley Dept. of Math., MIT drw@math.mit.edu
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--
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On the contrary, it is impossible to separate a cube into two cubes, a
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fourth power into two fourth powers, or generally any power above the
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second into two powers of the same degree. I have discovered a truly
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marvelous demonstration which this margin is too narrow to contain.
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-- Pierre de Fermat, sometime in the late 1630's (translated from the Latin)
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From: tamsky@pride.ugcs.caltech.edu (Marc Tamsky)
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Subject: Re: Anyone using P90-Plato-INTEL board under LINUX???
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Date: 14 Oct 1994 09:57:27 GMT
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Working configuration--no problems (believe me, I was amazed I didn't
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have to wrestle it to make it work!) Works like a champ...
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Intel PCI Premiere II BabyAT motherboard P5/90 256K cache (36.08 Bogomips)
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version 10 of FLASH BIOS -- it's on Intel's BBS.
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2 SMC-Ultra Ethernet cards
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1 EGA+ 8-bit monitor
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1 ASUS 53c810 PCI SCSI controller (~$80!)
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Quantum LPS540 SCSI hard drive (~$290!)
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Linux 1.1.52 (!$0! YAAY!)
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Slackware 2.0.? (!$0! YAAY)
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NCR boot disks from slackware release to get started (they are
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1.1.19... so get 52 after you're up and recompile.)
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Cheers!
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Marc.
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>>>>> In article <37gmhf$6jb@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>, tilo@ftat64.ee.TU-Berlin.DE (Tilo Schuerer) writes:
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} I indent to buy an Pentium P90 INTEL Board, which
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} has the nicname "Plato" Because I never heart anything
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} about that board I wonder if anybody already used it
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} sucessfully under LINUX.
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--
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| Marc Tamsky --- http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~tamsky/
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| Protect your rights: Learn, Use, And Practice safe encryption.
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| "My life used to be boring before Internet. Now, I'm a socialite!" -jkoga
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From: jleslie@dmccorp.com (Jerry Leslie)
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
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Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
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Date: 14 Oct 1994 19:50:19 GMT
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Byron A Jeff (byron@gemini.cc.gatech.edu) wrote:
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: In article <37c5dn$dhk@plato.simons-rock.edu>,
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: James A. Robinson <jimr@plato.simons-rock.edu> wrote:
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: >>The question is how to accomplish this?
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: >
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: >I would think you need to ask yourself how this word processor will
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: >differ from things already around (EZ, Doc, etc...). Once you have a
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: >set of proposed ideas on what it needs, what exists, and what needs to
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: >be implemented, you can start looking for the right language
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: >combination to handle this.
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: The primary difference is that I personally feel that we don't need another
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: WYSIWYG X based wordprocessor. It exists in basic form in EZ.
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: However what's missing is the functionality along the lines of early
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: WordPerfect or Word applications. Text based, formatting hidden from the
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: user, prints to lots of printers, basic wordprocessing functionality of
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: font size and type, text placement, highlights like bold, italics, underline
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: etc., and basic table generation.
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: In fact HWP is making headway towards this goal.
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: I think we can integrate existing editor (JED), menu(dialog), mouse(the
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: selection replacement of the Mouseless Commander), formatter (QuikScript),
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: and renderer (GhostScript) into a workable system that can meet the basic
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: wordprocessing demands of most folks.
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: Comments?
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: BAJ
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: --
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: Another random extraction from the mental bit stream of...
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: Byron A. Jeff - PhD student operating in parallel - And Using Linux!
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: Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332 Internet: byron@cc.gatech.edu
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Regarding "integrate existing editor", why not make it flexible like 'elm'
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and 'tin', where a user can specify an editor like 'vi', 'jed', 'emacs',
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or our favorite, 'ed' (not the line-mode ed, but an editor patterned after
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DEC VMS's EDT editor) ?
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That would allow a new user of this information processor to concentrate
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on learning it, and not be distracted by having to learn a new editor as
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well.
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--Gerald (Jerry) R. Leslie
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Staff Engineer
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Dynamic Matrix Control Corporation (my opinions are my own)
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P.O. Box 721648 9896 Bissonnet
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Houston, Texas 77272 Houston, Texas, 77036
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713/272-5065 713/272-5200 (fax)
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gleslie@isvsrv.enet.dec.com
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jleslie@dmccorp.com
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From: vanpatjm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Jason Van Patten)
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Subject: Re: [H] missing "Close" item onSWiM motif menu
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Date: 12 Oct 1994 21:49:02 GMT
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: regular menu My window menu (Alt+F4, Alt+F5, Alt+F3 don't function)
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: +-----------------+ +-----------------+
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: | Restore Alt+F5 | | |
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: | Move Alt+F7 | | Move Alt+F7 |
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: | Size Alt+F8 | | Size Alt+F8 |
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: | Minimize Alt+F9 | | Minimize Alt+F9 |
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: | Maximize Alt+F10| | Maximize Alt+F10|
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: | Lower Alt+F3 | + ----------------+
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: | Close Alt+F4 |
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: +-----------------+
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Find in your .mwmrc (or the system.mwmrc if you're root and want to
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make the change global to everyone) where this menu is defined. It'll be real
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easy to spot. I'm not sure where it is in the file because I don't have SWiM.
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Add these lines:
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"Restore" _R Alt<Key>F5 f.normalize
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"Lower" _L Alt<Key>F3 f.lower
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"Close" _C Alt<Key>F4 f.kill
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In whatever order you want them to appear in the menu. The new labels
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will appear with an underline under the specified character (R in Restore, for
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example).
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This should do the trick for you.
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Jason
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--
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Jason Van Patten | If at first you don't succeed, keep |
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Clarkson University | on sucking till you do succeed. |
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
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From: SMOKIE@bmb.escape.de (Karsten Mauler)
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Subject: Re^2: Beautifying Linux/Xfree
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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 17:54:00 +0100
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Hi DAVID 13.10.94 / 18:53
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d> This is arleady avialable. Try GREAT. Really. It takes a while to
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d> configure, and you should have Motif to get the best performance, but it
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Is it right, that motif is a comercial prog ? Or is there a free
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port ?
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"Ansehen ist der gut Ruf, den man geniesst, weil viele schweigen."
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(Zitat: Earl of Chesterfield 1694-1773)
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/ Fido :Karsten Mauler@2:241/565.27
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** \ mokie ** Z-Netz :SMOKIE@BMB.escape.de
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Subject: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
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From: gavrie@pesach.jct.ac.il (Prof. Gavrie Philipson)
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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 23:50:01 GMT
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Well, as for converting DOS/Linux file formats:
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Slackware has two little progs, fromdos/todos which do just that.
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Moreover, there is a filter (don't remember its name) which converts RTF/TeX.
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So it should be easy enough to move files between TeX/WinWord/Mac.
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I heard there is a package for Emacs, called AUC-TeX, which uses a special TeX
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mode. Where can I get it?
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--
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Gavrie Philipson
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gavrie@sparc.jct.ac.il
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From: raeburn@cygnus.com (Ken Raeburn)
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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 94 13:24:34 PDT
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Subject: GNU assembler release now folded into "binary utilities" package
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Crossposted-To: gnu.announce,gnu.gcc.announce,gnu.g++.announce,gnu.utils.bug,alt.lang.asm,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.misc,comp.lang.misc
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There will be no version 2.4 of gas.
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Version 2.5 will be part of the binutils-2.5 package, which is going
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to be released shortly. Look for a coming announcement...
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