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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 94 12:13:20 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #964
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Linux-Misc Digest #964, Volume #2 Tue, 18 Oct 94 12:13:20 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: tk3.6 w/Pixmap patches, shared lib incompatible? ("Eric Jeschke")
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Re: Weakest Linux Box (Steven Pritchard)
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Re: More on word processors... svgalib? (Larry Doolittle)
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Word processors for Linux? (Ted Harding)
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Re: [INFO WANTED] C/SLIP vs. PPP (Charles Liu)
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Re: Linux doesn't like my cache (C. Chan)
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Re: AHA1542CF and 2.1 GB drive (Scott Jennings)
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Re: Tar | Seyon Problems (James C Crump III)
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Excellent Linux CD-ROM (Michael Yaroslavtsev)
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Re: [pine] where is spell(1) ? (Bryan Vold)
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Re: Copyright Violations Plague the Net (Irish)
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Re: Copyright Violations Plague the Net (Binesh Bannerjee)
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Re: Linux T-Shirts! Second Batch of Shirts. (Phil Hughes)
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Re: PPP (Chat) problem! (Al Longyear)
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Re: Mystery Chip...AMD (John Palaima)
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Re: Mystery Chip...AMD (John Palaima)
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Re: Mystery Chip...AMD (John Palaima)
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Re: Copyright Violations Plague the Net (just another theatre geek)
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From: "Eric Jeschke" <jeschke@cs.indiana.edu>
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Subject: Re: tk3.6 w/Pixmap patches, shared lib incompatible?
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Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 16:33:59 -0500
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kaefer@aglaia.in-berlin.de (Thorsten Meinecke) writes:
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:I've finally managed to rebuild tk3.6 with pixmap support under Linux, using
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: sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/devel/tcl/tk3.6p1l1-src.tar.gz
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:as source distribution and adding the patch and additional module files from
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: ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de:/pub/tcl/contrib/extensions/TkPixmap3.6i.tar.gz
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It would be great if you could make available a binary release.
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Any chance you could add one or two other extensions like the
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drag and drop or photo widget?
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--
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Eric Jeschke | Indiana University
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jeschke@cs.indiana.edu | Computer Science Department
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From: spritcha@nyx.cs.du.edu (Steven Pritchard)
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Subject: Re: Weakest Linux Box
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Date: 15 Oct 1994 16:28:30 -0600
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dunnc@ucsub.Colorado.EDU (Colin J. Dunn) writes:
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>cmay@titan.ucs.umass.edu (Christopher M. May) writes:
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>>: To H.J.: Go buy a 386DX/40. I got one for $90 a while back, and it is
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>>: *so* much faster. The SX/16 board now waits to replace a dead 286. (And
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>>: the cycle begins again...)
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>>Wouldn't a 486SLC33Mhz board be faster? Upgradeability is
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>>not really possible on these though :(.
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>>These boards are cheap, around $100.
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>And a 486DLC/40 is probably not more than $130, and would run rings
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>around everything. I have read that a 486DLC/40 approaches 486SX/33
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>speeds. Of course, a 387DX math coprocessor would push the cost of
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>the motherboard over $200... :(
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There is a reason for buying a 386DX/40 MB now. Like I said, I bought
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one for $90, but I've heard of them selling for around $50. All of the
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good ones will take a 486DLC/40 and a math co (upgrade path!). In the
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near future, I will probably be buying a DLC to get a bit of a speed
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boost. Then again, I may wait, save my $$, and get a DX2/66 or 80.
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Steve
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spritcha@nyx10.cs.du.edu | Southern Illinois Linux Users Group
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(618)549-8579 | Meetings the 1st and 3rd Mondays of every month.
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Steven Pritchard | http://nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~spritcha/home.html
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From: doolitt@recycle.cebaf.gov (Larry Doolittle)
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Subject: Re: More on word processors... svgalib?
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Reply-To: doolittle@cebaf.gov
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Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 14:57:57 GMT
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Mark A. Davis (mark@taylor.infi.net) wrote:
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: someone@s96120.u96.stevens-tech.edu (Guess who?) writes:
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: >Just as a general question to all, how hard would it be to write a wysiwyg
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: >word processor to use the svgalib instead of x? And can apps that use
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: >svgalib be run remotely?
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: I hate to sound like a recording- but using svgalib is *******NOT********
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: a good choice. It is not a standard on multiple platforms. This means
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: the software would be Linux specific and not portable to all the other
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: Unixes (SCO, Solaris, HP/UX, etc). When we work hard on free software,
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: I think it should be available to as many different people and platforms
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: as possible.
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: In addition, X is the "official" graphics environment for Unix. Writing
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: things which do not run in X will greatly annoy those who want integration
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: and flexibility. X apps can run on any Unix platform, via modem, hardwire,
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: ethernet, Xterminals, remote workstations, consoles, distributed,
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: centralized, multihost, etc.... This flexibility and power is not
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: available in a platform & OS & hardware proprietary graphics environment.
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I agree, but that misses a point - the world is full of applications that can
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run under svgalib **or** Xwindows. (real world examples: ghostscript, gnuplot)
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That is the way to go for anything you are targeting at the "mass market".
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Xwindows is a real hog, and there are lots of underpowered machines out
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there. Yes, they can be upgraded - but it's more effective to get
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a whole new machine. Then some other poor SOB gets stuck with the
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underpowered machine (you sure won't throw it away). What are _they_
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supposed to do with it? Run DOS? You sure won't run Chicago - or
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Chicago apps - on it <grin>. Let's give these poeple something useful
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to do with their cast off 386DX's with 4M RAM and 640x480 monitors.
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Owners of laptops will like the choice, too!
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- Larry Doolittle doolittle@cebaf.gov
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From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Ted Harding)
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Subject: Word processors for Linux?
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Date: 18 Oct 1994 06:01:10 -0400
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Reply-To: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Ted Harding)
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byron@gemini.cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff) wrote:
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================================================
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| I sympathize with you (and Richard too). My proposal would have some kind of
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| basic multilingual support, or at least the hooks so that it could be added
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| on. But honestly in the multilingual crowds opinion is it possible to have
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| a text based multilingual support? My opinion from my limited understanding
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| is that it's probably not possible to do.
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Can I suggest a working hypothesis? It's on the lines of "If you can find
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it printed on the page of a book then you can computerize the production
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of that page". However, I want to avoid issues that involve the scanning-in
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of images and colour laser printers that cost 6 figures in $$$.
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A more humble paradigm is: If a black-&-white printed page could have
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been set up by a traditional compositor placing pre-cast lumps of metal
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in a block, then the production of that page can be computerized, and
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what's more the user interface can be character-based if you wish to be
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that "primitive" (and that's not meant to be an insult either - it can be
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extremely efficient).
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Now that paradigm covers the hand-setting of printed pages where you could
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have representatives of many different languages and scripts all on
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one page. It's been done many times, and excellent examples dating
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from the 19th C can be found in libraries. To computerize it, however,
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you need the complete set of founts for the languages you will use,
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in a common "format" (i.e. each "lump of metal" needs reference-points
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in a standard format, so that the computer knows what to do with them).
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Standard PostScript does this with the commoner Latin characters and symbols.
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Downloadable stroked definitions allow other "lumps of metal" to be
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"cast". So ONE QUESTION is whether the PostScript approach is adequate
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for all likely Multilingual needs. My guess is that it is.
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Given that, the NEXT QUESTION is going to be HOW to represent
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instructions to the computer to "compose" the page. Not WHETHER:-
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according to the above "humble paradigm", it IS possible.
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But I think, rather than spend time wondering how to jury-rig a job lot
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of tools to do a rough and incomplete approximation to this, if
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the ML-WP project is to be serious the basic planning has to start with the
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issues just discussed.
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Ted. (Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk)
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From: Charles Liu <alte@rahul.net>
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Subject: Re: [INFO WANTED] C/SLIP vs. PPP
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Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 18:15:30 GMT
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Here is my 2 cents opinion:
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1. Still get a Linux (for the coming INTERNET/Distributed-Computing age)
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2. Color terminals are too expensive $800 vs $195 PC VGA monitor.
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3. With popular MS-Window, unless you get free Mac from Apple, stick with PC.
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Charles Liu
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ILA
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--
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End of Note
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From: chan@alfrothul.uchicago.edu (C. Chan)
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Subject: Re: Linux doesn't like my cache
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Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 01:56:54 GMT
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In article <1994Oct16.000228.5869@tigger.jvnc.net>,
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Bob Kupiec <kupiec@tigger.jvnc.net> wrote:
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>
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>After reading your message, it has me looking again into my problem.
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>I'm still looking for the solution... ;-)
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>
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>I have a 486dx40 with 70ns SIMMS and 256k 20ns cache ram. The machine
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>has problems while running with the cache turned on. (i.e. kernel
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>compile errors, garbage reads from disk, Slackware install crashed, etc.)
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>With cache turned off, the machine runs fine, except ~10% slower on compiles.
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>I've tried messing with the BIOS setups ad infinitum, with no luck.
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>Your post made me look again in the motherboard manual, and I found a
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>jumper setting. Here is what it says:
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>"VL-Bus Master Setting
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>Set JP8 to configure the VL-Bus for zero wait state or one wait
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>state (default)."
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>It's currently set to ZERO wait states. I don't remember exactly,
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>but I think I switched this (to ONE wait state) to test the cache problem
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>and the machine ran REALLY slow. What does this jumper do? It sounds
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>Bus related, not memory related.
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>Has anyone with an AMI BIOS had and fixed this problem? What are your BIOS
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>settings?
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>The motherboard I'm using is made by SI3 (p/n YM413201).
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>
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>--
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>Bob Kupiec (N3MML) Phone: 1-609-897-7300 JvNCnet (GES, Inc.)
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>Network Engineering -or- : 1-800-35-TIGER 3 Independence Way
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>Email: kupiec@jvnc.net Fax : 1-609-897-7310 Princeton, NJ 08540
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I am running an AMD 386DX40 MB, OPTI chipset, AMI BIOS rev. 8/93,
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20 ns cache RAM, 8 Mb 70 ns DRAM (3 chip/SIMM), and I have my VLB
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IDE/F/S/P/G card set to 33MHz, no wait states. (The VLB I/O card is some
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Made In China brand, Pine or something like that.)
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I am running Linux and OS/2 2.1 at 2-1-1-1, and 0 wait states for
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cache and memory access. DOOM runs fine under Linux and as a
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DOS full window process under OS/2. (It isn't very fast but you'd
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be amazed at what a 386/40+VLB+cheap S3 card can do.)
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I am running the AT bus at CPU/3 or 13.3 MHz, w/o problems.
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Under MS-DOS 6.2.1 however, DOOM flakes out on these settings, and
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I have to change to 3-1-1-1 and 1 wait state to cache and main mem.,
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and lower the AT-bus to CPU/4. Weird; another strike against DOS?
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I have done 5 or 6 compiles of the Linux kernel w/o any problems;
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on a 486/66 MB I had the compile would break until I added wait states
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to the cache.
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I suspect sample to same variations in MB and cache chips are
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greater than touted, and may explain some of this flakey behavior
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especially with low priced MBs.
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--
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C. Chan <chan@alfrothul.uchicago.edu> | " Proud to be a chordate! "
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From: smj@smudge.oro.net (Scott Jennings)
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Subject: Re: AHA1542CF and 2.1 GB drive
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Date: 16 Oct 1994 01:12:44 GMT
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Joern Rennecke (amylaar@meolyon.hanse.de) wrote:
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: dror@netcom.com (Oz Dror) writes:
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: >Driver Segate ST12400N (2.1GB)
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: >I am unable to get beyond the 1 GB boundary. If I try to partition above
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: >the 1 GB boundary I get an error about mismatch of physical and logical.
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: >I have disabled the BIOS support for extended mapping for > 1GB. I was told by
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: >the manufacturer that this option is only for DOS, and for a unix driver I
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: >should disable it.
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: The linux driver takes the remapping for granted. So you better enable it.
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: I have an 1542cf too and use it to access a 1.7 GB Micropolis drive, and
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: it runs fine this way.
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runs just fine here with mapping *disabled* too. (2.1GB)
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(but lilo does want one partition below 1GB to boot from)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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From: jcrump@netcom.com (James C Crump III)
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Subject: Re: Tar | Seyon Problems
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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 19:21:21 GMT
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David J Topper (djt1@namaste.cc.columbia.edu) wrote:
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: Tar Question:
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: My version of tar gives me the following error when I try to extract from the
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: following file:
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: tar -x Cmix.manual.tar
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: tar: can't open /dev/nftape : I/O error
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: Granted, I did download the file with a DOS comm program and then copy it over
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: to a Linx directory (having my DOS partition mounted to /dosc). Would that
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: make a difference? Or is there something esle at work here.
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: Seyon Question:
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: So in order to rectify the above situaion, possibly, I tried to download the
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: file again with seyon. Whenever I try to:
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: sz Cmix.manual.tar
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: I get a bunch of timeout errors. Even if I try to time things exactly (i.e.,
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: type the above command, then do a RECEIVE - Reg. Zmodem, then watch errors).
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: In general, I've been having bad luck getting seyon to upload and download
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: files.
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: Any help to either of the above would be greatly appreciated.
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From: mike@olivea.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Michael Yaroslavtsev)
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Subject: Excellent Linux CD-ROM
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Date: 18 Oct 1994 01:55:49 GMT
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After reading the thread about Yggdrasil 1994 Fall release,
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I just want to let you all know that a week ago I purchased
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a Linux+BSD rel.4 CD-ROM from TransAmeritech and enjoyed it
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very much. It has this very attractive option to quickly install
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full-fledged Linux on top of your DOS file system (they call
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it 'test drive'). After trying this, I've made a regular
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installation to discover no problem worth to mention.
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I think the CD-ROM is a pretty good bang for its 30 bucks.
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Just my $.02.
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-- Mike
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From: btv@ldl.HealthPartners.COM (Bryan Vold)
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Subject: Re: [pine] where is spell(1) ?
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Date: 14 Oct 1994 16:37:02 -0500
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In article <CxD4yv.6w2@utnetw.utoledo.edu>,
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<ddelsig@uoft02.utoledo.edu> wrote:
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>In Article <PP000547.94Oct7230637@bedlam.interramp.com>
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>pp000547@interramp.com writes:
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>>
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>> Hello.
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>>
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>> I just noticed that the Pine binary I have on my pC does not
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>>spell-check.
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>[Chomp]
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>>
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>> Bill
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>
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>You need to find a spell checking program that is compatible with `spell'.
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>I use gnu ispell-4.0, which is the obsolete version of ispell, but is
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>compatible with spell. ispell-3.x is the newer, better version (don't ask),
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>but is not compatible. You should still be able to find ispell-4.0 on gnu
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>sites like sunsite.unc.edu.
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If you have ispell, what you can do is make a symlink from ispell to spell.
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This is mentioned in the ispell man page. What it says, is that if you
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run ispell as "spell" (i.e. a symlink), it will operate as the original
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unix spell did. After creating a symlink from ispell to spell, my Pine
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spell-checking works great!
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-Bryan
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--
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btv@ldl.healthpartners.com "The relentless pursuit of perfection"
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Linux -- The Choice of a GNU Generation "Make it so, Number One."
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Crossposted-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc,misc.legal,gnu.misc.discuss
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From: irish@eskimo.com (Irish)
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Subject: Re: Copyright Violations Plague the Net
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 12:06:02 GMT
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A couple of things.
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1). Every year Congress reviews various things, one of which is
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the cable act. In 1992 (or thereabouts), they asked Cable (or rather,
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their PACs) what they wanted changed to improve their service. Cable
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responded that they would like the ability to do NO-KNOCK SEARCHES of
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private residences with HIRED ARMED GUARDS (not cops). Why? "cable
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thieves" was the response. That's right, Joe Schmoe hooks up that black
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box he got from his buddy so he can watch Plaboy for free, and the next
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thing he knows his door is broken down without warning, and armed men are
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ripping apart his entertainment center. Fortunatly, Congress has a few
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more brains than most people account for, and of course told them no
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chance in hell.
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By now you are asking "what's this got to do with copyright
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violations?" Well, The essence here is that's exactly what ol' Joe was
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doing: Violating Copyright. And there are people out there that take it
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rather seriously, especially when they are losing money on it. And some
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of them have some clout where it can do a LOT of damage to the freedoms
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that are a basic part of America. So it boils down to respect; Respect
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someones freedom to protect something (even second-hand), and you won't
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force these people with (probably far too much) power to take action
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against EVERYONES freedom.
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2). (Yes, that was 1) Why is this thread being crossposted to
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comp.os.linux.misc anyway? (that's where I found it)
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--
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Irish
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"I'm Not the shell answer man, I just know some things about Linux"
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From: binesh@panix.com (Binesh Bannerjee)
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Crossposted-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc,misc.legal,gnu.misc.discuss
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Subject: Re: Copyright Violations Plague the Net
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Date: 18 Oct 1994 10:35:17 -0400
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Irish (irish@eskimo.com) wrote:
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: A couple of things.
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: 1). Every year Congress reviews various things, one of which is
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: the cable act. In 1992 (or thereabouts), they asked Cable (or rather,
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: their PACs) what they wanted changed to improve their service. Cable
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: responded that they would like the ability to do NO-KNOCK SEARCHES of
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: private residences with HIRED ARMED GUARDS (not cops). Why? "cable
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: thieves" was the response. That's right, Joe Schmoe hooks up that black
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: box he got from his buddy so he can watch Plaboy for free, and the next
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: thing he knows his door is broken down without warning, and armed men are
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: ripping apart his entertainment center. Fortunatly, Congress has a few
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: more brains than most people account for, and of course told them no
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: chance in hell.
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You have GOT to be kidding!
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HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Binesh
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--
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* Will sit by a pool and relax and have fun for money. *
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Hey... it's going to work someday...
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From: fyl@eskimo.com (Phil Hughes)
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Subject: Re: Linux T-Shirts! Second Batch of Shirts.
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Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 16:58:24 GMT
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Neil Charley (N.Charley-CSSE93@cs.bham.ac.uk) wrote:
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: Hmmm, what about the rest of the world? Not all Linux users are in
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: the USA or Australia ya know *8-/
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Linux Journal has both the "My Other Computer is a Linux System" and the
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"Virtual Brewery" t-shirts available. There are pictures of them (and
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info on all the other Linux products that SSC/Linux Journal carries).
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Call (206) 527-3385, fax (206) 527-2806 or e-mail sales@ssc.com to request
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details or a catalog.
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--
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Phil Hughes, Publisher, Linux Journal (206) 527-3385
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usually phil@ssc.com, sometimes fyl@eskimo.com
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From: longyear@netcom.com (Al Longyear)
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Subject: Re: PPP (Chat) problem!
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Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 16:46:20 GMT
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patcai@cs.bu.edu (Pat Cai) writes:
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> I have a strange problem using PPP. When I first boot my computer, I
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>have no way to make PPP dial a number. I would have to exit and goto
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>DOS/ms-windows to make a modem connection. Then when I come back to Linux,
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>PPP behave perfectly.
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The scripts typically work with what is called a "Hayes compatable" modem.
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There is a very large list of modems which are in this category.
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Read the manual page for chat. It is the primary documentation for the
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program's use.
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There are some sample scripts in the chat directory.
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--
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Al Longyear longyear@netcom.com
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From: jolt@gnu.ai.mit.edu (John Palaima)
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.os.linux.admin
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Subject: Re: Mystery Chip...AMD
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Date: 18 Oct 1994 14:20:49 GMT
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In article <37loc2$acb@gate.fzi.de>, Michael Berthold <berthold@fzi.de> wrote:
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>|> wholesale relabling DX/2-66s to DX/2-80s.
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>
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>Why should they do that???
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Because it is cheaper than making a new batch of chips. :)
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--
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Richard Cooley Extraordinaire "Yeah. Arrgh."
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rcooley96@dgl.ssc.mass.edu These are my opinions, not MIT's etc...
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rcooley@nyx.cs.du.edu Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux
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"LILO - it's not just a boot loader, it's a way of life" -- me
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From: jolt@gnu.ai.mit.edu (John Palaima)
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
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Subject: Re: Mystery Chip...AMD
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Date: 18 Oct 1994 14:28:14 GMT
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In article <37lr77$mhu@fs7.ece.cmu.edu>,
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Brad Matthew Garcia <garcia@ece.cmu.edu> wrote:
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>performance than you would with an Intel 486DX2-66! Now that AMD is
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>actually selling chips labeled 486DX2-80, this might mean that AMD
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>is testing thier current batch of 486DX2-66's and relabeling the ones that
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>are stable at 80 MHz.
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This is what I was talking about, only I think Brad explained it better
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than me :)
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--
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Richard Cooley Extraordinaire "Yeah. Arrgh."
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rcooley96@dgl.ssc.mass.edu These are my opinions, not MIT's etc...
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rcooley@nyx.cs.du.edu Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux
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"LILO - it's not just a boot loader, it's a way of life" -- me
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From: jolt@gnu.ai.mit.edu (John Palaima)
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.os.linux.admin
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Subject: Re: Mystery Chip...AMD
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Date: 18 Oct 1994 14:38:06 GMT
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In article <37lne1$acb@gate.fzi.de>, Michael Berthold <berthold@fzi.de> wrote:
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>In article <37hgfh$71n@venera.isi.edu>,
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>daniel@isi.edu (Daniel Zappala) writes:
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>|> In article <37h24oINN15j@life.ai.mit.edu>,
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>|>jolt@gnu.ai.mit.edu (John Palaima) writes:
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>|> > take bets that new 66Mhz chips will be "crippled" so they can't be over-
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>|> > clocked? :)
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>|> > --
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>I have doubts.
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It depends. It would force you to buy a "genuine" DX2-80 (read: spend more
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money) -- although someone said it was only about $20 more--in this case, it
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seems to be almost stupid to continue to make the 66Mhz version!
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>|> But a DX2-80 can't be just a relabeled, overclocked DX2-66.
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>|>It's bus speed has to be 40 Mhz.
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You're missing the point, I think: A DX2-66 system has a motherboard with
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a clock crystal that enables the system to run at 33Mhz (if I'm not mistaken,
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the crystal *is* 66Mhz). If I have a motherboard that allows me to set
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multiple clock rates (and I do :) than I can rip the xtal out, replace it
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with a faster one, and set the jumpers to say I'm running at 40Mhz, not 33.
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"overclocking" in this case, means to run the chip out of spec by running a
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chip designed for 33Mhz at 40Mhz. I think you misunderstood me. Do you
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understand now? If not, maybe someone can do a better job than me:)
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--
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Richard Cooley Extraordinaire "Yeah. Arrgh."
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rcooley96@dgl.ssc.mass.edu These are my opinions, not MIT's etc...
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rcooley@nyx.cs.du.edu Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux
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"LILO - it's not just a boot loader, it's a way of life" -- me
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From: gwangung@u.washington.edu (just another theatre geek)
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Crossposted-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc,misc.legal,gnu.misc.discuss
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Subject: Re: Copyright Violations Plague the Net
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Date: 18 Oct 1994 15:08:26 GMT
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In article <CxvAry.E1u@eskimo.com>, Irish <irish@eskimo.com> wrote:
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> So it boils down to respect; Respect
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>someones freedom to protect something (even second-hand), and you won't
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>force these people with (probably far too much) power to take action
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>against EVERYONES freedom.
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Amen.
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Just respect other people's property. Period.
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--
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Roger Tang, gwangung@u.washington.edu, Artistic Director PC Theatre
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The most unAmerican thing you can say is "He/she makes too much money."
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