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Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #207
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From: Digestifier <Linux-Activists-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
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To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 93 22:13:06 EDT
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Linux-Activists Digest #207, Volume #6 Mon, 6 Sep 93 22:13:06 EDT
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Contents:
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Bootdisk made by SLS install hangs during boot (Cornell Kinderknecht)
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CGA SNOW ... Any Thoughts ? (Mike Rice)
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Re: Linux user groups in every city! (John A. Martin)
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Re: ll (Michael Boesch)
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Re: Windows & SLS?? (Brett Person)
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Re: BBS package (Ralph Sims)
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Re: NeXTStep & Linux (crazy lion)
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Re: NeXTStep & Linux (crazy lion)
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PLEASE HELP with networking problem.. (Anil Srivastava)
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Linux for PS/2 Microchannel (Marijan Salopek)
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Re: Linux for PS/2 Microchannel (Joerg Scheurich)
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End of 16-bit 'port posting (ph9991_hall@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin
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From: cornell@syl.dl.nec.com (Cornell Kinderknecht)
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Subject: Bootdisk made by SLS install hangs during boot
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Reply-To: cornell@syl.dl.nec.com
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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 17:03:25 GMT
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SLS version: 1.03
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Machine1: NEC Powermate 386
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Machine2: Amax PC/386
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I've installed the SLS v.1.03 release on three machines. The two
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listed above had the same trouble after installing, making a
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bootdisk, and trying to boot from that bootdisk. The trouble that
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came about was when I tried to boot from the bootdisk (5.25" floppy
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drive A:). Just after it prints out that it's trying to detect
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sound cards (one of the machines has no sound cards and the other
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has a PAS), it just sits there and never goes on. Can anyone help
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me get beyond this? I've been booting from the install disk and
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telling LILO to go to the harddisk where it's installed but I'd
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really like to get the boot floppy to work. The boot messages are
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included at the bottom of this post.
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The third machine that I installed on (an Insight 486 with a PAS16)
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boots fine off of it's boot floppy.
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--- Cornell
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==== messages at boot time ====
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Loading............................
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Uncompressing Linux...done.
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Now booting the kernel.
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Console: colour EGA+ 80x25, 8 virtual consoles
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Serial driver version 3.96 with no serial options enabled
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tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16450
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tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16450
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tty03 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 8250
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lp_init: lp0 exists (0), using polling driver
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lp_init: lp1 exists (253), using polling driver
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lp_init: lp2 exists (253), using polling driver
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Detecting soundcard: ProAudioSpectrum (type 3).
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PAS2: Found a Pro AudioSpectrum 16 board, revision 255.
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IRQ = 7, DMA = 3
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AdLib compatible FM chip detected and initialized
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Detecting soundcard: SoundBlaster (type 2).
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Detecting soundcard: AdLib (type 3).
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and then we sit and wait forever......
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(of course the machine without a soundcard does not print the
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message about the PAS)
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| Cornell Kinderknecht Email: cornell@syl.dl.nec.com |
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| CSTC/CNAD |
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| NEC Systems Lab./NEC USA Phone: 214-518-3509 |
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| Irving, TX (Dallas) Fax: 214-518-3552 |
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From: rice@access.digex.net (Mike Rice)
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Subject: CGA SNOW ... Any Thoughts ?
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Date: 6 Sep 1993 18:58:09 GMT
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Hey folks,
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Got 'er up on a 386 built with old parts. One of those old parts
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was a CGA monitor ... Got the old "SNOWY" screen ! Any thoughts
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as to how to eliminate the sloppy presentation ??
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Send e-mail to rice@access.digex.net !
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Thanks .
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-- rice
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| CornerStone Alliance, Inc.| -------------------- __o
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|_|___ H. Mike Rice | InterActive Learning _`\<,_
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|_____ rice@access.digex.net | Networks ! (*)/'(*)
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From: jmartin@opus.starlab.csc.com (John A. Martin)
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Subject: Re: Linux user groups in every city!
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Date: 6 Sep 1993 15:40:46 -0400
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Reply-To: jmartin@opus.starlab.csc.com (John A. Martin)
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Nicholas Vargish <vargish@sura.net> asks if there is interest in
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forming a Linux User Group in the DC area. If there is an
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interest, it may be that there is also an unusual oppertunity to
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do so.
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If there is interest in forming a Linux User Group in the
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Baltimore-Washington DC area (Md., Va., WVa., ...) it might be
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worthwhile to consider forming it as a Special Interest Group of
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the Capital PC User Group (CPCUG).
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Founded in 1982, the CPCUG has almost 5000 members, is a
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501(c)(3) scientific and educational organization (ie. it is a
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non profit organization contributions to which are
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tax-deductible) that is run by volunteers. The CPCUG has an
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infrastructure that provides excellent support for its Special
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Interest Groups (SIGs) and provides an opportunity for its SIGs
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to make their presence felt by a substantial segment of the local
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computer community and of the local community as a whole.
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The steps needed to form a CPCUG Linux SIG are simple:
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1. A SIG Chairman, who must be a member of the CPCUG, must be
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chosen (this may well be whoever volunteers for the job).
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2. A SIG becomes a recognized unit within the CPCUG when:
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a. A meeting is held to discuss the formation of the SIG.
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All interested parties are invited. (In my opinion a
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virtual meeting via the Internet might meet this
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requirement.)
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b. The following documentation is presented to the Board
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of Directors:
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1. A SIG charter that includes:
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a. An outline of the purposes, interests, and
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activities of the proposed SIG.
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b. An identification of the SIG chairman.
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c. An estimate and analysis of any expenses or
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anticipated revenue associated with the
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activities of the SIG.
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2. A description of the SIG for the CPCUG newsletter.
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3. The Board of Directors votes and formally
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recognizes the SIG. (Current practice is to grant
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provisional recognition for a period of about three
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months before final recognition.)
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3. In order for a SIG to maintain its status as a recognized
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SIG and keep its membership on the board of directors, the
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following are required:
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a. The SIG chairman must submit quarterly SIG membership
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rosters.
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b. The SIG chairman or his representative must attend, as
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a minimum, seven of the Board meetings in the course of
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a year. (The board normally meets monthly.)
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c. The SIG must perform one of the following functions
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during the course of a year:
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1. Give a presentation at the regional meetings.
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2. Provide an article for the CPCUG newsletter.
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3. Conduct a training seminar.
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There are experienced volunteers who are willing to help in all
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aspects of forming and operating a CPCUG SIG.
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In exchange for abiding by the bureaucratic requirements above a
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SIG benefits from being part of an established ongoing
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organization with access to an office, well equipped meeting
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places (albeit in competition with others), a BBS (the MIX
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301-738-9060), a well edited monthly newsletter (The Capital PC
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Monitor (ISSN 0884-0830)), postage for meeting announcements, and
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a recognized identity.
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Because all meetings of the CPCUG and its units are open to the
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public there is no absolute requirement for any member of a CPCUG
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SIG other than the SIG chairman to be a member of the CPCUG.
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(Many SIGs define their membership as "those present.") CPCUG
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membership is strongly urged however (like public radio). The
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inducements for CPCUG membership include a subscription to the
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Monitor, extended use of the MIX, access to a lending library
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(books, etc.), and reduced rates for a number of other services.
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(There is currently a move underway to do Internet access from
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the MIX.)
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The CPCUG is largely oriented toward the needs of computer
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consumers (its logo states "Users Helping Users") but there are a
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substantial number of members who are computer professionals and
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a fair number of those whose professional computer work is not
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solely with PCs.
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I am willing to help organize a CPCUG Linux SIG, but I am not in
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a position to take the major responsibility because I already
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have substantial volunteer commitments. (I serve as the Chairman
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of the Potomac ACM SigAPL Chapter, as the Chairman of the CPCUG
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APL SIG, and on a demanding ad-hoc committee of the CPCUG BoD.)
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Please indicate your interest in this option for a
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Baltimore-Washington DC Linux group by responding to Nicholas
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Vargish <vargish@sura.net> whose message I am responding to is
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shown below. It would be particularly encouraging to have
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responses from both present CPCUG members and those who are not!
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Cheers --jam
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| jam@acm.org
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John A. Martin | jmartin@csc.com
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Computer Sciences Corporation | j.a.martin@ieee.org
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1100 West Street | tel: +1 301 497 2698
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Laurel, Maryland 20707-3587 USA | fax: +1 301 498 8260
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=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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| From: vargish@cthulhu.sura.net (Nicholas Vargish)
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| Subject: Re: Linux user groups in every city!
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| Date: 5 Sep 1993 20:49:46 -0400
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| Here's one for a group in DC... I'll accept e-mail for now, but would
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| rather find someone else to handle it :^).
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| Seriously, just to get the ball rolling, if you live in the Washington
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| DC urban sprawl (Maryland and Virginia "suburbs" included), send me
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| some e-mail. I know for a fact that there are people out there who are
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| much better at running things like user's groups than I would be, so
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| if you would like to take the helm from me, please say so in your
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| letter!
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| Nick
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| p.s. I also won't have a working home phone until mid September, which
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| makes me a less than ideal person to handle this kind of thing...
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| disregard what my .sig says for now.
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| ======================== ========================
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| |. Nick Vargish .| |. vargish@sura.net .|
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| | systems engineer | | H:(301) 434-8957 |
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| |. SURAnet .| |. O:(301) 982-4600 .|
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From: root@exodus.abg.sub.org (Michael Boesch)
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Subject: Re: ll
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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 10:31:56 GMT
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In article 28834@mindlink.bc.ca, Robert_Broughton@mindlink.bc.ca (Robert Broughton) writes:
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> I can type in "ll", and get the equivalent of "ls -l", but "find / -name ll
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> -print" delivers nothing. What exactly is going on here.
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> I'm interested because ll doesn't work when I'm in a non-login shell.
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In the SLS distribution, there are many aliases made in /etc/profile (also ll).
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'Cause this file only is executed by a login shell you need to put the wanted
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aliases in a file, which is run by the shell every time it starts (for bash
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i.e. it's .bashrc in the users home directory).
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Bye
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Mike
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--
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Michael Boesch root@exodus.abg.sub.org
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"God not only plays dice, He sometimes throws the dice where they cannot be
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seen." (S. Hawking)
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From: person@plains.NoDak.edu (Brett Person)
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Subject: Re: Windows & SLS??
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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 22:22:20 GMT
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In article <CCKqtE.8EE@sci.kun.nl> erikp@cs.kun.nl (Erik Proper) writes:
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>Hi all,
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> in the newest byte (sept issue), i found an add from SLS. It
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>stated (among other things) to be abi & api compatible with windows
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>3.1 (no not even 3.0, but 3.1!). Is this true? (I it is, and it is
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>stable - or stable within months ;-) - I might considere buying
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>a faster notebook to run windows and linux).
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>Erik
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No it isn't! not at all. I called Peter intending to maybe buy SLS from
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him. I asked about the ad and was told that the Win 3.1 stuff hadn't been
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sent to him or somesuch. Kind of stupid to adverttize something that isn't
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truely in the product. To each his own, I guess.
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I'll be putting my own semi-release together for some pretty specialized
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software that I am writing. I would never consider saying in PRINT that I had
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something in my distribution that wasn't there.
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Actually, rather than do my own semi-release, I'll probably just have them
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grab Slackware.
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--
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Brett Person
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Guest Account
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North Dakota State University
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person@plains.nodak.edu || person@plains.bitnet
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From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
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Subject: Re: BBS package
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Date: 6 Sep 1993 16:17:52 -0700
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mcreynpa@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (MCREYNPA) writes:
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>>to Linux. I found Eagle BBS, but it would require a couple hours of
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>>porting work to get up and running. I am looking for something that would
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>>be like a mess-dos setup, but allow higher level users to get to the shell.
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>How about waffle? See comp.bbs.waffle for details.
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A user in waffle would become userid 'bbs' in the shell, unless
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a 'wrapper' (setname, in this case) were used. While what you
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suggest is not trivial, is it not impossible. For some, waffle
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has the disadvantage of being commercial (for UNIX), at a cost
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of $120 for the source. I think for the original poster's question,
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waffle is not a viable alternative, in spite of its other features.
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--
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halcyon.com, A World of Information at Your Fingertips
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login: new; +1.206.382.6245, 672.4554, 927.5834, 456.0770, 427.0102 (data)
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Northwest NEXUS, Inc. +1.206.455.3505 or 1.800.539.3505 (24-hour voice lines)
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From: rlion@access.digex.net (crazy lion)
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Subject: Re: NeXTStep & Linux
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Date: 6 Sep 1993 20:47:19 -0400
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shit i have nextstep intel. i meant too great for most intel boxes.
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rl
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From: rlion@access.digex.net (crazy lion)
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Subject: Re: NeXTStep & Linux
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Date: 6 Sep 1993 20:49:30 -0400
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nextstep intel 2 bit monochrome requires a 486dx-25, 8megs of ram and
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a math co.
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rl
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From: anils@ada.CS.ORST.EDU (Anil Srivastava)
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Subject: PLEASE HELP with networking problem..
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Date: 7 Sep 93 01:22:32 GMT
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Reply-To: anils@research.cs.orst.edu
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I had posted the following post yesterday and Malcolm Beattie
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<mbeattie@black.ox.ac.uk> suggested that I add my local network to the
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/etc/networks file, which I did, but as soon as I do that
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-- networks file ---
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local-net 128.193.76.0
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====== end ====
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route add local-net
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starts givnig me the SCIOADDRT: Network unreachable error, and as soon as I
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take it out, I am able to add my local net to teh rouing table, but the
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flags are UH, which means it comes up as a host rather than a network.
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Any ideas.. My previous post an relevant info is appended below. Would
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really appreciate any help.
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Anil
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===== previous post =====
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I would really appreciate any help with solving this problem. As you might
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guess, I am a neophyte as far as Linux is concerned. I recently picked up
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the distribution of linux from ftp.cdrom.com:pub/linux/slackware/zooed_disks
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and installed it on a generic 486 / 66 with two 1/2 GB SCSI drives, 1542 Adaptec
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SCSI card and a NE2000 network card (I/O addr = 300, Int =3). The
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installation went rather smoothly, but when I issue the following command
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to add a gateway to the routing table..
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route add default gw 128.193.76.20 metric 1
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I get the following error..
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SIOCADDRT: Network unreachable.
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For the life of me, I can't figure out what it means and how I can get rid
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of it. My machines IP address is 128.193.76.16, so it is on the same
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network as the gateway machine. I can also ping the Linux box from
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any machine on the same network, but not from across the gateway. The local
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loopback is setup ok, and I can telnet to itself. I am attaching below the
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output from "ifconfig" and "route" and the rc.inet1 file. Would really
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appreciate any help.
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If not a problem, please respond to my e-mail address since I am an
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infrequent eader of this newsgroup (for now!! ). THANKS IN ADVANCE
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Anil
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anils@research.cs.orst.edu
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===== ifconfig ========
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lo IP ADDR 127.0.0.1 BCAST 127.255.255.255 NETMASK 255.0.0.0
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MTU 2000 METRIC 0 POINT-TO-POINT ADDR 0.0.0.0
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FLAGS: 0x0049 ( UP LOOPBACK RUNNING )
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eth0 IP ADDR 128.193.76.16 BCAST 128.193.77.255 NETMASK 255.255.254.0
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MTU 1500 METRIC 0 POINT-TO-POINT ADDR 0.0.0.0
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FLAGS: 0x0043 ( UP BROADCAST RUNNING )
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======= route =========
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Kernel routing table
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Destination net/address Gateway address Flags RefCnt Use Iface
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128.193.76.0 * UH 0 0 eth0
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olympus.bus.orst.edu * UH 0 99 lo
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===== /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 ======
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#! /bin/sh
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#
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# rc.inet1 This shell script boots up the base INET system.
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#
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# Version: @(#)/etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 1.01 05/27/93
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#
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HOSTNAME=`hostname`
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# Attach the loopback device.
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/etc/ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
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/etc/route add 127.0.0.1
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# IF YOU HAVE AN ETHERNET CONNECTION, use these lines below to configure the
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# eth0 interface. If you're only using loopback or SLIP, don't include the
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# rest of the lines in this file.
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# Edit for your setup.
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IPADDR="128.193.76.16" # REPLACE with YOUR IP address!
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NETMASK="255.255.254.0" # REPLACE with YOUR netmask!
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NETWORK="128.193.76.0" # REPLACE with YOUR network address!
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BROADCAST="128.193.77.255" # REPLACE with YOUR broadcast address, if you
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# have one. If not, leave blank and edit below.
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GATEWAY="128.193.76.20" # REPLACE with YOUR gateway address!
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/etc/ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST} arp up
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# If you don't have a broadcast address, change the above line to just:
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# /etc/ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK}
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Anil Srivastava * anils@research.cs.orst.edu
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Graduate Student in Computer Science * (503) 737-3802 - VOICE
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Oregon State University * (503) 737-4890 - FAX
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Anil Srivastava * anils@research.cs.orst.edu
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Graduate Student in Computer Science * (503) 737-3802 - VOICE
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Oregon State University * (503) 737-4890 - FAX
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From: salopek@unixg.ubc.ca (Marijan Salopek)
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Subject: Linux for PS/2 Microchannel
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Date: 7 Sep 1993 01:41:08 GMT
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Has anyone successfully loaded Linux on a Microchannel machine?
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Mark Salopek
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From: zrzm0370@helpdesk.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Joerg Scheurich)
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Subject: Re: Linux for PS/2 Microchannel
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Date: 7 Sep 1993 01:54:07 GMT
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In article <26gork$1b0@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca> salopek@unixg.ubc.ca (Marijan Salopek) writes:
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>Has anyone successfully loaded Linux on a Microchannel machine?
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Thilo Schuster term@godot.stgt.sub.org, schuster@rz.fht-esslingen.de
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From: ph9991_hall@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
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Subject: End of 16-bit 'port posting
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Date: 6 Sep 93 20:45:42 -0600
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As the originator of the post, it's time to give the answers to my query. We
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can stop discussing this one and save bandwidth.
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1. Is it possible to 'port Linux to lower architechtures? (i.e. 8088, '286..)
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Sure, but it wouldn't be a very good 'port. Linux was built to take advantage
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of the '386 architechture, and reworking the kernel of Linux to do less just
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so that it'd run on older 16-bit machines wouldn't do justice to the os. The
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final product would not be Linux -- just a pale imitation.
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IMHO, if anyone really wants to use UN*X on these dudes, it might be better to
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go with an established UN*X like Minix (the most mentioned UN*X in the email
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replies). But 'porting Linux is not the move to make.
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2. What can I do with my old '286 and 8088 if I'm not going to try to 'port
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Linux?
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There were two suggestions, as a whole:
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- Use them as X terminals. I like this idea, as it keeps them productive.
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(They both have vga.)
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- Sell 'em cheap. If they don't work, sell 'em cheaper. What I can't sell,
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I'll give away. ;-)
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--
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PS. A few people accused me of not having read the FAQ before I posted. I
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did, but mine was NOT the irritating question answered again and again. (Did
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you read the first two lines of my post?) Mine was a question on 'PORTING
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Linux to an 8088, '286.., not RUNNING existing Linux on an 8088, '286..
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Internet: James.F.Hall@uwrf.edu
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to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:
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Internet: Linux-Activists-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU
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You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux) via:
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Internet: Linux-Activists@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU
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Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
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nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux
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tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux
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tupac-amaru.informatik.rwth-aachen.de pub/msdos/replace
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The current version of Linux is 0.99pl9 released on April 23, 1993
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