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From: Digestifier <Linux-Activists-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 93 20:13:06 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #221
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Linux-Activists Digest #221, Volume #6 Sat, 11 Sep 93 20:13:06 EDT
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Contents:
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What can I delete? (levinson@vax.sonoma.edu)
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SLS wont mount /proc (LANCE RECK)
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Re: Shutdown doesnt unmount (Sunando Sen)
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[Q] Faircom c-tree Plus (denouden)
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need help -- what assembler to install? (Hobbes)
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Re: NeXTStep & Linux (Brett Person)
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Re: NeXTStep & Linux (Brett Person)
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Removing Linux (Brian Hampel)
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Re: BBS package (Mark Morley)
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How to make Linux getting logins via modem (Patrick Hoffmann)
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Where can I find ksh, csh, and tcsh?? (Jester)
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How to boot single user (Raymond Ngai)
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ix/MBox under Linux problem (JL Gomez)
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Support for arcnet cards under Linux? (john larson)
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Mathmatica like package for linux? (Daniel Garcia)
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Subject: What can I delete?
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From: levinson@vax.sonoma.edu
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Date: 11 Sep 93 10:48:54 -0800
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I would like to know exactly which files/libraries and/or directories I can
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remove from my Linux system which has to do with Xwindows? I have removed
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Xwindows and would like to take off any other support stuff that is there cause
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I need my extra hard disk space for a project I am working on in school.
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Thanks
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--
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Eric Levinson
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rcisnet2!root@moon.nbn.com | Home computer (UUCP)
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levinson@vax.sonoma.edu | Vax
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I can also be reached on my BBS system, Color Galaxy Milky Way (415) 883-0696
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From: ldr@maki.EBay.Sun.COM (LANCE RECK)
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Subject: SLS wont mount /proc
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Date: 11 Sep 1993 18:31:04 GMT
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Reply-To: ldr@maki.EBay.Sun.COM
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Hi all,
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I'm having problems with mounting /proc at boot time. The fstab entry is correct
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" /proc /proc proc defaults " but I must always hand mount /proc after boot. I
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am running linux on a 486/50Dx clone, 16 Mb of memory, and a A1542c with a 100 mb
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hard drive. Linux resides on the whole drive in one partition. I have no swap
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because as I understand it, the FAQ says that I do not need it with the amount of
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core memory I have on the system. So here are the symptoms :
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1. On boot-up I get the message "mount unchecked ext2 partition"
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2. In multi-user mode as root (or any user) I type df. It complains
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about /proc not being mounted. I mount it and df works but, it doesn't
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give stats on the / (sda1) partition.
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my fstab :
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/dev/sda1 ext2 defaults
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/proc /proc proc defaults
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*** The sda1 entry looks suspect but, I dont know enough about linux
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to know what it should look like. Also after install the /proc
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entry was not there...I had to enter it in.
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My Question - Did I screw up something during install ? Did linux screw up (i.e.
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is there a patch for this problem) ? Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
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Thanks,
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Lance.
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From: sens@FASECON.ECON.NYU.EDU (Sunando Sen)
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Subject: Re: Shutdown doesnt unmount
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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1993 19:19:31 GMT
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In article <1993Sep11.104331.1@vax.sonoma.edu> levinson@vax.sonoma.edu writes:
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>In article <CD46to.J5v@inviso.com>, gilbert@inviso.com (Gilbert Callaghan) writes:
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>> In article <1993Sep8.094234.1@vax.sonoma.edu> levinson@vax.sonoma.edu writes:
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>>>
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>>>Well, I got SLS 1.01, and I have since gone from .99pl9-6 all the way to
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>>>.99pl12 without obtaining all of the support files. Like I said, if I use
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>>>shutdown now and go single user and type umount -a, it works. If I just use
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>>>shutdown -r now it doesnt unmount root.
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>>
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>> Shutdown runs the script '/etc/brc' which actually does the job of umounting:
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>>
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>> /etc/brc:
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>>
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>> #!/bin/sh
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>> echo "Unmounting Filesystems"
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>> umount -a
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>>
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>> and make sure it's owned by root with perms 700.
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>
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>Thanks for your information, Gilbert. I have had users from all over the world
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>telling me I needed utile14, but it has programs in it that are much older than
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>the ones I downloaded off of the ftp systems. For example, the shutdown
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>command has a date of last year, where the shutdown I got with my SLS package
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>is much newer.
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>I did create a /etc/brc, but did not set the permissions on it. I will try it
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>and get back to you on it.
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>
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But have you tried bootutils-1.0 and svinit-2.4? I use the mount & unmount
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from the former and the init and shutdown from the latter. This combination
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seems to work.
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Sunando Sen
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From: denouden@xs4all.hacktic.nl (denouden)
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Subject: [Q] Faircom c-tree Plus
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Date: 2 Sep 1993 12:57:08 GMT
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I am shopping for a b-tree/ISAM database management library to be
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used under Linux.
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One candidate is Faircom's c-tree Plus v6.0 D product. I have been
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looking for demos of applications developed with this library, but to
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no avail. The 'Demos' file area of the Faircom BBS is empty!
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So my questions are:
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Is anybody using c-tree Plus with linux? Any noteworthy experiences/
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anecdotes/horror stories?
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What performance can be expected? I would very much like to play with
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a linux binary demo application. Failing that, a DOS demo would also
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be very helpful.
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Also, suggestions for other DBM libraries are most welcome.
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Thanks.
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From: 96cat@williams.edu (Hobbes)
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Subject: need help -- what assembler to install?
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Date: 11 Sep 1993 16:20:26 -0400
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I just installed SLS v1.03 and am trying to get some software (most
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notably pcomm) to compile.. but the package isn't distributed with an
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assembler! I'm running on a 80386 clone. Any ideas on what a good
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assembler to use would be?
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thanks..
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From: person@plains.NoDak.edu (Brett Person)
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Subject: Re: NeXTStep & Linux
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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1993 20:26:37 GMT
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In article <rlion.747157536@access> rlion@access.digex.net (crazy lion) writes:
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>martini@tournesol.hep.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Ullrich Martini) writes:
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>>hi,
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>>we here a lot about running ms-windows apps on linux boxes, but there are
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>>much better user interfaces than windows, for example NeXT Step. this is
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>>why i am wondering if there are any activities to build a next-linux
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>>interface like wabi.
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>>maybe it would be sufficient to have a source-code compatibility. is it true
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>>that the objective-c compiler used by next is available and ported to linux?
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>>(heard something like that)
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>>bye, ullrich
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>nextssetp is, in my opinion the best OS there is. but it's hardware
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>requirements are just too great for intel. you'd have to have a fully
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>loaded comupter to even get one program running. so i doubt that anyoe
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>would spend all the time it owuld take to write it when few could benefit..
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Huh? I'd say it would be worth it! What do ya mean 'too great for Intel'?
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Ever hear of the white hardware? All the white hardware I've seen has been
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Intel bassed and I hear it runs pretty well.
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I don't think the original poster meant that we should write NextStep for
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Linux, but rather a shell around X that looked like NS. Maybe call it NxS.
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I'd be happy with the ability to do drag and drop in a file manager. Come to
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think of it, I'd like a file manager.
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Having something that looked like NS would really boost the usability of
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Linux A LOT.
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Someone wanna work on this with me?
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--
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Brett Person
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Guest Account
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North Dakota State University
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person@plains.nodak.edu || person@plains.bitnet
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From: person@plains.NoDak.edu (Brett Person)
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Subject: Re: NeXTStep & Linux
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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1993 20:35:12 GMT
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In article <1993Sep5.225916.776@kf8nh.wariat.org> bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) writes:
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>In article <930904.224103.9T2.rusnews.w165w@mulvey.com> rich@mulvey.com (Rich Mulvey) writes:
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>>rlion@access.digex.net (crazy lion) writes:
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>>> nextssetp is, in my opinion the best OS there is. but it's hardware
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>>> requirements are just too great for intel. you'd have to have a fully
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>>> loaded comupter to even get one program running. so i doubt that anyoe
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>>> would spend all the time it owuld take to write it when few could benefit..
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>>>
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>> "Too great for Intel?" Ummmm... you may be interested in knowing that
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>>it has been available on Intel processors for several months now... and
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>>in fact, since Next is no longer producing hardware, the average person
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>>is likely to see it *only* on Intel machines... :-)
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>Which doesn't change the fact that it rivals NT for hardware requirements to
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>run it....
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>++Brandon
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Yeah, but With NextStep at least i get an operating system worthy of the
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hardware requirements.
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NT is really a damn bust. I saw NT on discount shelves at a computer sale
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recently. Store salescritter said he wasn't seliing any of them!
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Its been about three minutes since my last post on this subject, and I'm
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getting more and more serious about doing something that looks like
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nextstep.
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Anyone else interested?
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--
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Brett Person
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Guest Account
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North Dakota State University
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person@plains.nodak.edu || person@plains.bitnet
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From: Brian Hampel <STBH%MARIST.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu>
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Subject: Removing Linux
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Date: 11 Sep 1993 17:39:35 -0400
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Reply-To: STBH%MARIST.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
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Dear Whoever,
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I'm am tring to remove linux off my system. I formated my drive, and
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used FDISK to remove the partition. And even after all that, when I boot my
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machine it still says, "Uncompressing Linux" Does anyone know why? Does
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anyone know how to completely remove linux off my system? If so PLEASE send
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e-mail back to me,.. since my school is to cheep to get usenet. Anyway
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Thank You,
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Brian
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Subject: Re: BBS package
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From: morley@suncad.camosun.bc.ca (Mark Morley)
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Date: 11 Sep 93 12:50:22 PDT
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Hello all,
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As some of you know I've been working on developing a BBS under Linux for
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a while now. I thought I'd let y'all know what's new.
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After bringing my C based BBS up to about %70 of what I want (need) it to
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do, I've scratched it and started over. What I'm now writing is a new
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programming language called M-Script that is designed specifically for
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writing BBS's and or MUD's. I'm re-writing my BBS in M-Script.
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M-Script is an interpreted language that looks very similar to dBase. It
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is very tightly written and is very fast (although I don't really have
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anything to compare it to). The interpreter executable is only 40K,
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although that will grow a little bit as I add more commands, etc.
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Why M-Script over regular shell scripts? It's simply easier to write a
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BBS in M-Script. Little knowledge of UNIX and none of C is required. I
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also plan on porting it to DOS so that the scripts will run directly under
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either Unix or DOS. Also, with many Internet applications built in, you
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have more control over how your (usually expensive) resources are used.
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A prime example is FTP. In M-Script you can give your users a menu of
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files that are available, say, at sunsite. They can tag all the ones they
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want and those selections are saved (or retrieved immediately - whatever)
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At midnight or so a cron job can be run that retrieves all the users'
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files, and mails them a report of the transactions. I think you get the idea.
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Just some of the commands you find in M-Script include:
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ftpopen/ftpclose/ftpcd/ftpdir/ftpput/ftpget/etc: Built in FTP commands.
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mail: mail a file to someone.
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browse/cbrowse: Allows a user to view a file and scroll it in BOTH
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directions with the arrow keys, etc. The 'c' version will interpret
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special codes in the file to manipulate colors, embed variables, etc.
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The non-c version does not interpret these codes. An example line
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containing some of these codes might look like this:
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\tLWelcome to ISLAND-NET ~FIRSTNAME~! You've called ~CALLS~ time\s before.
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The '\tL' sets the color to yellow, the ~FIRSTNAME~ is replaced by the
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value of the M-Script variable FIRSTNAME. ~CALLS~ is replaced by the
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value of the CALLS variable. The \s will print an 's' only if the last
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variable printed was not equal to '1'. There are dozens of such codes
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that can be used. Also, variables can be left or right justified, padded,
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etc. For example: ~FIRSTNAME>30~ would display the value of FIRSTNAME
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right-justified in a 30 character space.
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list/clist: Allows the user to view a file in a more "traditional" manner.
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Kinda like the 'more' command - one screen or line at a time. Again,
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the 'c' version interprets codes and variables.
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who: Displays a list of who's on the system. You can customize the way
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this display looks by setting the WHOHEADER, WHOENTRY, and WHOFOOTER
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variables.
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finger: embedded finger command. Works just like the real finger.
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print/cprint/nprint/ncprint: Display a line of text on the user's
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screen. Again, the 'c' versions interpret codes. The 'n' versions do
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not print a CR/NL after the text, the others do.
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shell: shell out and run some other program. Useful if you want to
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run elm or tin or something...
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colors: turn ANSI colors on or off, or toggle the current value.
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pickone: allows the user to pick one value from a list of values. For
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example, the statement 'pickone choice Yes,No,Maybe' would display the
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string 'Yes' on the user's screen. When s/he presses the space bar, it
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changes to 'No', then to 'Maybe', then back to 'Yes', etc. When the
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user presses enter the current value is stored into the variable 'choice'.
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input: read a line of text from the user and store it in a variable.
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This allows full editing of the string with the arrow keys, etc.
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There are many many others that manipulate variables (case conversion,
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parsing, etc), manipulate the display (clear, cursor positioning, etc),
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manipulate files (delete, copy, move, rename, etc) and directories (cd,
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md, rd, etc). It also has commands to open a file, read from it, search
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it, close it, etc. There are some limited database like functions as
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well (I hope to expand the database commands quite a bit).
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For program flow M-Script currently can deal with while loops and
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if/elif/else statements. Nesting is not a problem. I plan on adding a
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switch/case command this week. I'll probably add some sort of for loop
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as well. Oh, you can also include another M-Script file with the
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"include" statement.
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Finally, M-Script allows you to define new procedures and call them
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throughout your program. You can pass arguments to procedures, and
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procedures can return results. The first procedure I wrote in M-Script
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was yesterday. I called it PrintOut. It takes a single filename as an
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argument. The file is displayed on the screen on what looks like one
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of those green and white striped computer print outs (tractor feed
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holes, perforated edges, etc.) The neat thing is I can call PrintOut
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at any time, giving any filename as an argument, and voila! I need no
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special codes in the file at all - it's just plain ASCII. This is just
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one example of what you can do with procedures.
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Miscellany: Every command can be abbreviated to the first 2-3 characters,
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supports comments (of course), some limited debugging (line echoing and
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statement stepping), etc.
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Anyway, that's all I've got so far, but in a week or two M-Script should
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be a pretty sophisticated language. I'm always open to ideas and
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constructive criticism. Questions anyone?
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In a week I'll be willing to give out a half dozen or so binaries of
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M-Script to beta-testers, if anyone's interested. Drop me a note.
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Mark
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morley@camosun.bc.ca
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From: maddox@zelator.in-berlin.de (Patrick Hoffmann)
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Subject: How to make Linux getting logins via modem
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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1993 13:56:08 GMT
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Hi!
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I've the following question:
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What should I do to get logins via modem. Should I use getty?
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Which files should I edit and with what options?
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--
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It remains... /////Mad.M.Maddox///// (...spoken: Math-m-atics)
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Patrick Hoffmann (maddox@zelator.in-berlin.de)
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...bye!
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From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
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Subject: Where can I find ksh, csh, and tcsh??
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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1993 21:55:17 GMT
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I was wondering what sites would have ksh, csh, and tcsh
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for linux available for ftp?
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Jester
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--
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For the lack of something better here, I will just leave some blank space on
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which to meditate, while I think of something witty.
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From: rngai@oracle.com (Raymond Ngai)
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Subject: How to boot single user
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Date: 11 Sep 93 23:24:17 GMT
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Linux crashed and destroyed the hard disk partitioning table few days
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ago. After using a dos utility to rebuild the partitioning table I
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was able to start up linux (sort of). However, xdm did not came up
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correctly as it used to. And it messed up my screen to the extent
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that I couldn't do anything but reboot.
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I have lilo installed. Is that a way I could boot linux single user
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so I could try to fix the problem or at least save some of my work.
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Please reply to: rngai@oracle.com
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Thanks,
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Ray Ngai
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--
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( Raymond Ngai <rngai@oracle.com> )
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( Senior Applications Engineer 300 Oracle Parkway, #670A )
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( Vertical Applications Division Redwood Shores, CA 94065 )
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( Oracle Corporation (415)506-3385 FAX:506-7262 )
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
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From: gomez@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu (JL Gomez)
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Subject: ix/MBox under Linux problem
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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1993 22:44:11 GMT
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I've got the tar file for ix/MBox for Linux on sunsite.unc.edu.
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Fixed it up and it compiled.
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The problem is that I created an anonymous user id called 'bbs'
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so the public may dial in and use the BBS.
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But for some reason, ix/MBox always uses the last user name when
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logging in.
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For example, I create a 'test user' on the BBS, then when I login
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again via 'bbs', I get 'test user' back!
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Anyone successfully running ix/MBox?
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--
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gomez@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu
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Subject: Support for arcnet cards under Linux?
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From: larson@condor.stcloud.msus.edu (john larson)
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Date: 11 Sep 93 18:01:33 -0600
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Reply-To: larson@condor.stcloud.msus.edu (john larson)
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Does anybody know if there is support for Arcnet cards under Linux?
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If so, what Arcnet cards are supported and where can i get the drivers for
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Linux?
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A faculty member from our department has a 486/33 and would like to run Linux
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on her PC rather than MS-DOS. We use an arcnet cabling setup and are looking
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for drivers and a supported arcnet card to hook her up with our Novell network.
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But whatever, please email any helpful information to any of the following
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e-mail addresses:
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john@ghost.mcs.stcloud.msus.edu larson@condor.stcloud.msus.edu
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larson@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu
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John Larson
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Network Administrator, Microcomputer Studies
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Saint Cloud State University
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St. Cloud, MN
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From: kender@esu.edu (Daniel Garcia)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
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Subject: Mathmatica like package for linux?
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Date: 11 Sep 93 23:04:04 GMT
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Reply-To: kender@esu.edu
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Hiya alls. Like the title says, i'm looking for a Mathmatica like package
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for linux. Right now, i have to log into my system at school to use
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mathmatica, but since we only have one phone line in the dorm room, i would
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like to try to avoid tying up a line like that.
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D
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Daniel Garcia------------ooOO Kender@esu.edu OOoo--------------Comp Sci Student
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Coram Deo
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These views belong to Daniel Garcia, any flames belong to /dev/null
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GCS/MU d--() -p+ c++(c+) l++ u+ e+(*) m++(*) s !n h f+ !g w+ t++(--) r+ !y
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