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From: Digestifier <Linux-Activists-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 93 14:13:14 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #229
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Linux-Activists Digest #229, Volume #6 Tue, 14 Sep 93 14:13:14 EDT
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Contents:
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Linux and MS Windows 3.1 (yuck) swap space. (Chris Beauchamp)
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Re: Modula-2 compiler for linux... wanted. (Axel Wienberg)
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Archiv of this group (Thomas Gusset)
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Where to find Linux (jlnguyen@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu)
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WABI for Linux (Juergen Bernhardt)
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Re: Mathmatica like package for linux? (James A Robinson)
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Re: WABI for Linux (Byron A Jeff)
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Re: ** Request better install instructions! (John Carroll)
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Re: Linux and MS Windows 3.1 (yuck) swap space. (Vincent Broman)
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Re: Mathmatica like package for linux? (John Verzani)
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Re: Mathmatica like package for linux? (Jeff Epler)
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Re: ** Request better install instructions! (Ralph Becker-Szendy)
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* Streamer Question (Viktor Mraz)
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From: cbeauch@xenon (Chris Beauchamp)
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Subject: Linux and MS Windows 3.1 (yuck) swap space.
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Reply-To: cbeauchamp@bt-sys.bt.co.uk
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 12:01:55 GMT
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I am about to install SLS (latest version) on a Dell 486sx25, but I'm
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only using half the hard disk, the other half being used for DOS and Windows.
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I have a 12Mb Linux swap partition - is this possible to be used as both a
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Linux and a Windows swapfile? What does Linux do to this partition? Does it
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put anything corruptable on it?
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Many thanks, in advance,
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Chris Beauchamp
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_________________________________________________________________
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^ ^ | Eric | "I know what a thesaurus is, I've seen
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*|* | The | Jurassic Park"
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\_/ | Cat | - Herman the Dog.
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From: a2wienbe@rzdspc19.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Axel Wienberg)
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Subject: Re: Modula-2 compiler for linux... wanted.
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 12:53:00 GMT
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tholbroo@malibu.sfu.ca (Todd Holbrook) writes:
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>After poking around in sunsite and tsx-11, I've been unable to find a
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>Modula-2 compiler for linux. If anyone knows where one is available,
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>please let me know.
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> Todd...
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>tholbroo@fraser.sfu.ca
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I've seen quite a number of requests for linux-versions of Pascal or Modula-2.
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I may be mistaken, but isn't there a GNU version of (at least) Pascal? As far
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as I know, the GNU C Compiler is neatly seperated into front- and backend, and
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so it should be fairly simple to write a Modula or Pascal front end, which
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would automatically give you a working compiler for every system GNU C++ has
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been ported to. Somebody must have done this already!
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Thing is, I'm looking for Modula-2 too!
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Axel (a2wienbe@rzdspc19.uni-hamburg.de)
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[ sigs are about as useful as sighs... ]
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From: gusset@sparc1.ntb.ch (Thomas Gusset)
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Subject: Archiv of this group
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Reply-To: gusset@sparc1.ntb.ch
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 12:44:24 GMT
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is there an archiv (of summaries) like gopher, wais, etc of this newsgroup ?
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---
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@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ *******************************************************
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@ @ @@ @@@@@ Thomas Gusset, Neu-Technikum Buchs, CH-9470 BUCHS
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@@ @ @@ @ @ Abteilung Informatik Switzerland
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@ @ @ @@ @@@@@ phone: ++41 81 755 33 86 fax: ++41 81 756 54 34
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@ @@ @@ @ @ E-Mail: Gusset@ntb.ch
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@ @ @@ @@@@@ *******************************************************
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Subject: Where to find Linux
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From: jlnguyen@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
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Date: 13 Sep 93 18:46:02 CST
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Hello,
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My friend told me that this should be the place to ask my question...
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I would like to know where I could find a great deal in finding Linux...and I'm
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also planning to run x/motif...would this in some way harm it. I'm very new in
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this area.
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Your answers would be greatly appreciated.
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Thanks a million,
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Julie
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PS. Please e-mail: jlnguyen@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
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jlnguyen@picard.cs.twsu.edu
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From: bern@erls02.siemens.de (Juergen Bernhardt)
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Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,de.comp.os.linux
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Subject: WABI for Linux
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Date: 14 Sep 1993 16:17:02 +0200
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Hi!
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Does anyone know, if WABI is porting under Linux?
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If so, what's the status?
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--
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= Juergen Bernhardt <bern@erls02.siemens.de> =
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= ----------------------------------------------------------- =
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= Any opinions expressed are mine and not those of Siemens AG =
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
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From: jimr@world.std.com (James A Robinson)
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Subject: Re: Mathmatica like package for linux?
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 14:55:43 GMT
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jsc@slayer.mit.edu writes:
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>>>>>> On 11 Sep 93 23:04:04 GMT, kender@esu.edu (Daniel Garcia) said:
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> Daniel> NNTP-Posting-Host: babbage.esu.edu
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>While Mathematica might not be available, you can always try calc, the
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>gnu emacs calculator. No, I'm serious! It's sometimes described as "The
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>Poor Man's Mathematica", and that isn't far off. It can do a surprising
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>number of things, including symbolic algebra and calculus, linear
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>algebra, graphing (with gnuplot), statistics, and more.
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has anyone got calc-2.02 to work under emacs v19.19-A? I am having
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all sorts of problems with Info files and calc. I tried compiling the
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calc.el files after I had installed emacs19-19, and while it compiled
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and added the proper list of key-strokes to my .emacs file, if gave me
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all sorts of errors (which i cannot remember at the time). Calc worked
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fine for me under emacs 18.59. :-(
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From: byron@cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff)
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Subject: Re: WABI for Linux
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 15:23:00 GMT
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In article <274jou$2n7@bern.erls02.siemens.de>,
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Juergen Bernhardt <bern@erls02.siemens.de> wrote:
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>Hi!
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>Does anyone know, if WABI is porting under Linux?
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Yes. the project is called WINE. It's about 3 months old and progressing
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nicely.
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>If so, what's the status?
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Regular status reports can be found in c.o.l.announce. The last report stated
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that Solataire is almost playable.
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I'm not associated with the project except I misrepresented it a few weeks
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ago so I'm making a point of getting out correct information about it.
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There is a status report that is FTP'able from tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/ALPHA/
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WINE.
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Hope this helps,
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BAJ
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Another random extraction from the mental bit stream of...
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Byron A. Jeff - PhD student operating in parallel!
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Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332 Internet: byron@cc.gatech.edu
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From: jcarr@dbsoftware.com (John Carroll)
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Subject: Re: ** Request better install instructions!
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 15:22:07 GMT
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ph9991_hall@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes:
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: Installing a system should not be this hard..
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: I'm running out of hope and good nature. Either I find a way to install Linux
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: on my computer or I'll have some very sore things to say about the SLS disks..
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: ;-)
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:
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: --
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: I HAVE REACHED THE END OF MY ROPE. Could some kind soul email me some
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: detailed instructions on how to install Linux on my computer using the SLS
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: disks? I am so frustrated with the error messages I get, I'm about to lie
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: down and cry!
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: I've posted three msgs on this topic, and rec'd a few good hints. But nothing
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: seems to help! I.E. On my last attempt, I killed all partitions of any kind
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: using Linux's fdisk, reinstated a Linux/MINIX partition. !!This met with two
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: errors: 1.) Odd number of cylinders when I choose the limits on my disk 1-981,
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: 2.) Linux cannot currently use ___ sectors on this partition. I reboot
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: anyway, and find that I cannot install a damn thing to the computer!
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: What I want to do should be very simple:
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: o Remove Dos
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: o Use only Linux, taking up as much of my 81Mb (according to Dos 5.0 FDISK)
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: as I can.
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:
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: o Install the base system, utils, LaTeX, sc, X, Seyon, Gnuplot, gcc, and f77.
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: Maybe a few other progs as well..
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: o Start using it!
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: At this point, all I've achieved is removing Dos from my system.
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: I really need some step-by-step instructions on what to do. I feel like a
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: total fool trying to install this silly mess, and I need a way to get out. If
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: you can offer direct email support, I'll jump for it. If you'll volunteer
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: hand-holding installation via telephone, I'll call you on my dime.
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: I just don't want the $150 I spent on the SLS disks to go to waste!
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Just last night I installed the a-series disks (from sunsite.unc.edu)
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without a hitch. I used the install-guide-1.0 to walk me through this. If
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you don't have this, I highly recommend it. You can get it from
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sunsite.unc.edu in the directory
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/pub/Linux/docs/linux-doc-project/install-guide
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There is a PostScript version install-guide-1.0.ps.gz (which is rather nice
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looking) or a plain ASCII text install-guide-1.0.txt.gz.
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Hope this helps,
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John
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From: broman@schroeder.nosc.mil (Vincent Broman)
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Subject: Re: Linux and MS Windows 3.1 (yuck) swap space.
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Reply-To: broman@nosc.mil
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 17:30:45 GMT
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cbeauch@xenon asked:
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> I have a 12Mb Linux swap partition - is this possible to be used as both a
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> Linux and a Windows swapfile?
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If you use the partition under Linux as a swap _partition_, then each
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time you boot DOS to run MS-Windows, you'll have to format the partition
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and recreate the MS-Windows swap file by hand (thru menus and mouse clicks).
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If someone knows what bytes are expected to be present in the swap file
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when MS-Windows starts up, then one could easily write a DOS program
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to create it. Then we get a batch file like...
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format d:
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mymkswap d:\
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win
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I have tried to mount a dos file system under Linux and use a large file
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in that file system (whether the MS-Windows swap file or another)
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as a Linux swap _file_, but without success. After the mkswap run,
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the swapon program complains that it cannot find the right swap signature
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in the file. Anyone know why? Something to do with CRLF != LF?
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Vincent Broman, code 572 Bayside Phone: +1 619 553 1641
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Naval Command Control and Ocean Surveillance Center, RDT&E Div.
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San Diego, CA 92152-6147, USA Email: broman@nosc.mil
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From: verzani@math.washington.edu (John Verzani)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
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Subject: Re: Mathmatica like package for linux?
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Date: 14 Sep 1993 17:43:14 GMT
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The following information is culled from the Notices of the American Mathematical
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Society, July/August 1993
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This is a list of packages availiable for free via anonymous FTP, which have a
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chance of running on a Linux system:
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Computer Algebra Systems:
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FORM, General purpose, designed for BIG problems, batch-like interface.
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nikhef.nikhef.nl
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MAS: an experimental computer algebra system combining imperative programming
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facilities with algebraic specification capabilities for design and stucy of
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algebraic algorithms.
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alice.fmi.uni-passau.de
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Mock-Mma: It does Matematica (deliberate mispelling). Runs with common LISP
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peoplesparc.berkeley.edu
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Weyl: Intended to be incorporated into larger, more specialized systems.
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ftp.cs.cornell.edu:/pub/Weyl
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JACAL: needs Scheme LISP.
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prep.ai.mit.edu pub/gnu/jacal/jacal1a0.tar.Z
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GNU-Calc: runs inside emacs.
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FTP from any GNU site (like above)
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MuPAD: General purpose, source available for library routines, graphics support,
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source code debugger, on-line hypertext help system. (If any has the Xwindows
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implementation working could you contact me). Need license.
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athene.uni-paderborn.de:unix/MuPAD
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Algebra and Number Theory:
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PARI: Number theoretical computations, source available, ASCII and X windows
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graphics.
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conatact: pari@mizar.greco-prog.fr, or try math.ucla.edu:/pub/pari
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Magma: system designed to support computation in algebra, number theory, geometry
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and algebraic combinatorics... Distribution to start July 1993.
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contact John Cannon john@math.su.oz.au
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KANT: Computational algebraic number theory. needs C-compiler
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contact pohst@ze8.rz.uni.duessldorf.de or ftp from
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134.99.128.3:kant/V2R2.tar.Z
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KAN: system for doing algebraic analysis by computer based on computations of
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Groebner bases.
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gradient.scitec.kobe-u.ac.jp
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SIMATH: written in C and contains an interactive calculator, and many C-functions
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over algebraic structures. Contains a handbook in English.
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ftp.math.uni-sb.de or ftp.math.orst.edu
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GANITH: is an algebraic geometry toolkit for computing and visualization of
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solutions to systems of algebraic equations. Runs under X11, written in Common
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LISP and C.
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cs.purdue.edu:pub/avr/ganith-src.tar.Z
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There is a more thorough description in the file Symbolic_Math located at
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math.berkeley.edu:pub/
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The following unsupported programs are also mentioned: SAINT, FORMAC, ALPAK,
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ALTRAN, MATHLAB, SIN, SAC, CAMAL, ScratchPad, MuMath, TRIGMAN, ANALITIK,
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SMP,CCALC. These may or may not be available via anonymous FTP. Check archie.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
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From: jepler@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Epler)
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Subject: Re: Mathmatica like package for linux?
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 93 17:40:42 GMT
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In article <CDCMsw.2yE@world.std.com>,
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James A Robinson <jimr@world.std.com> wrote:
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>jsc@slayer.mit.edu writes:
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>
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>>>>>>> On 11 Sep 93 23:04:04 GMT, kender@esu.edu (Daniel Garcia) said:
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>> Daniel> NNTP-Posting-Host: babbage.esu.edu
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>
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>
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>>While Mathematica might not be available, you can always try calc, the
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>>gnu emacs calculator. No, I'm serious! It's sometimes described as "The
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>>Poor Man's Mathematica", and that isn't far off. It can do a surprising
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>>number of things, including symbolic algebra and calculus, linear
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>>algebra, graphing (with gnuplot), statistics, and more.
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>
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>has anyone got calc-2.02 to work under emacs v19.19-A? I am having
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>all sorts of problems with Info files and calc. I tried compiling the
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>calc.el files after I had installed emacs19-19, and while it compiled
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>and added the proper list of key-strokes to my .emacs file, if gave me
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>all sorts of errors (which i cannot remember at the time). Calc worked
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>fine for me under emacs 18.59. :-(
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I just asked about this on gnu.emacs.help -- Calc broke for emacs 19.
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However, I was told of 'calc-2.02a' which Archie found for me. There
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is also a 'calc-2.02b' which appears to be another small fix. Get one
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of these instead.
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(Apparently calc-3.0 will really support Emacs 19+, while 2.02[ab] is
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just a bit of a kludge.)
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--
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Jeff Epler jepler@herbie.unl.edu (Preferred) or jepler@nyx.cs.du.edu
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____ "Nuke the unborn gay whales" -- Never seen on a protest sign
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\bi/ I have no time for petty theft, I have no time for sex,
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\/ But I have time for what I like, And that is what is best.
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From: ralph@falcon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Ralph Becker-Szendy)
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Subject: Re: ** Request better install instructions!
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 17:34:03 GMT
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In article <1993Sep13.150502.1590@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu> ,
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ph9991_hall@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes:
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First comment: The c.o.l newsgroup is "obsolete"; followups should go
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to one of the replacement groups. I left this post in the old
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newsgroup, maybe the original poster's site doesn't get the new groups
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yet (in which case they are way behind the times, and she/he should
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have a word with the news administrator there).
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> Installing a system should not be this hard..
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Well, it wasn't for me ... and I installed SLS too. And no, I don't
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think I'm a genius. And neither do I have Unix system management
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experience (and no DOS experience whatsoever). Reading the FAQ's and
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HOW-TO's really helps. Print them out on paper, read them carefully
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three times, and whenever you hit a snag in the installation, look
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what the instructions say about it.
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> I've posted three msgs on this topic, and rec'd a few good hints. But
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> nothing seems to help! I.E. On my last attempt, I killed all partitions of
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> any kind using Linux's fdisk,
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You don't have to kill all your partitions; for example you could keep
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a small DOS partition, install DOS in it, and make it bootable. That
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way you have at least an imitation OS running while installing Linux
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(can come in handy sometimes). On the other hand, you may not want to
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waste any space on DOS.
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> reinstated a Linux/MINIX partition. !!This met with two errors:
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> 1.) Odd number of cylinders when I choose the limits on my disk 1-981,
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> 2.) Linux cannot currently use ___ sectors on this partition.
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These are not errors, just warnings. First, you might want to use the
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EXTended filesystem (actually, EXT2 or XIAFS), and make a partition of
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type EXT for these filesystems. These newer file systems have multiple
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advantages over the Minix filesystem (longer file names, much better
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performance, and they allow much larger partitions, I vaguely remember
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that the Minix file system doesn't allow partitions larger than 64MB).
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See the back traffic in this newsgroup and the FAQs for EXT2FS and
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XIAFS for a very detailed discussion of the benefits (and relative
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performance) of these two filesystems.
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Second, if the number of {cylinders, sectors} is odd (I forget which)
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the last one does not get used. It seems that message 1 warns you that
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that happened, and that you are wasting a very small fraction of your
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disk. Message 2 refers either to the loss of the last (odd)
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cylinder/sector, or to the fact that you have a partition larger than
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what the Minix filesystem can handle, so the rest of the partition
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will be unused.
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> I reboot anyway, and find that I cannot install a damn thing to
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> the computer!
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Say ... this may be a stupid question: Did you ever do a MKFS (in the
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case of the EXT2 filesystem I think it's called MKE2FS)? If not, the
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partition you just created won't do you any good. After creating the
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partition you still need to put a file system into it (I think the DOS
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equivalent is that you FDISK to make a partition a.k.a. drive-letter,
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and then FORMAT that drive).
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Before doing MKE2FS on a largish partition, remember that you will
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need enough memory or swap space. Older versions of MKE2FS used to die
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without warning if they ran out of memory. You might want to first
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create a swap partition with FDISK, then MKSWAP it, and SWAPON it,
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then run MKE2FS. This is explained in the FAQ.
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> I really need some step-by-step instructions on what to do. I feel like a
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> total fool trying to install this silly mess, and I need a way to get out.
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As I said at the very top: Begin by reading the FAQs and HOW-TOs, read
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the traffic on the Linux newsgroups for a few weeks, and keep printed
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copies of the installation instructions (such as the Linux, SLS, and
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EXT2FS FAQs and HOW-TOs) around while doing the installation.
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>I just don't want the $150 I spent on the SLS disks to go to waste!
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Did you know that you can get SLS for free from various archives
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around the network? Reading c.o.l.a. for a few weeks would reveal
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numerous places where it exists; the premier locations are
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sunsite.unc.edu and tsx-11.mit.edu.
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Good luck!
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--
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Ralph Becker-Szendy RALPH@SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
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Stanford Linear Accelerator Center RALPH@SLACVM.BITNET
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M.S. 95, P.O. Box 4349, Stanford, CA 94309 (415)926-2701
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My opinion. This is not SLAC, Stanford U, or the US DoE speaking. Just me.
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From: vm@crashy.muc.de (Viktor Mraz)
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Subject: * Streamer Question
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 20:44:00
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Hiya folks,
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I'm thinking of buying a COLORADO DJ-20 Streamer to be connected to
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my floppy controller (since I've got no SCSI)...
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Is that a good idea ?
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What about drivers ? Are they working ? (I'll use SlackWare, I think!)
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What QIC does the DJ-20 use ? How much will fit on it (125MB?) ?
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What backup&restore transfer speed can I expect ?
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THX for answering by MAIL, I'll SUMMARIZE to the net !
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(Ok, forget it ! ;-) It never worked and it never will...)
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Viktor
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